#dutch skam

[admireforever]

SKAM NL (s02e10)

[improvised-chaos]

rest in love and peace, reiky

[uitzinnigmp3]

ok guys the time has come

i cant promise i'll listen to this but i wanna see what the people think

[balkanballad]

I personally am a fan of different countries doing the same show when I like a storyline

[dvarapala]

okay at first i thought skam nl was back but it’s a new series made by the same people (which intrigues me) and !!!!! it’s a nblw romance!!!! and the mcs are both ppl of color!!!! pls watch a teenage love affair (with vpn) when it comes out on january 16th!!!!

[rearranging-deck-chairs]

do you ever imagine what it would be like if instead of just dubbing and losing all the britishness in translation, what had happened with doctor who was national adaptations like they do with game shows like masterchef or whatever or uh skam thats a better comparison, and every country had their own series of doctors, all at different numbers like if the dutch show spinned off when the english was at 4 or smth but we just started with our own dutch doctor number 1

and maybe they'd like start off just sort of copying stories and localising them but then as time goes on these national spin offs would you know start building on their own lore and seasonal arcs that would get removed further and further from the british original until it's like 2024 and you've got 15 national doctor whos running somewhat simultaneously all in different seasons and all preoccupied with INCREDIBLY different stories

it'd be like 'whos your favourite doctor' and you'd be like uh the polish 3rd or the brazilian 12th it's a toss up. what if some countries go through doctors way faster and theyre like on doctor 44 and youre like WHAT are they DOING to them

and can you imagne the fucking CNAONS can yuo IMAGINE can you IMAGINE the FANDOM when SOMEone decided to make looms canon and all the losers come out of the woodwork to say well thats not REALLY canon bc it's not the british version. imagine the localisations, the reinforcements of every countrys national history. what would countries who have more history being colonised than colonising do with gallifrey. how would every Important PartTM of the show be transformed by the perspective of another team. what even are identified as the Important PartsTM of the show. maybe one country decides the tardis should change appearance every week. maybe one country is like we're just gonna put all the edas on television. the amount of OPINIONS can you imagine

[isakvaltersnake]

sometimes i think charitably about the dutch people and then i remember they cancelled skam NL right before lucas's season and once again i must say it's on sight i'm afraid

[f0point5]

Lando and her are SO Call it what you want coded.

My gut is telling me that we’ll get You don’t need to save, but would you run away with me, part very very soon.

Can’t wait for all the dramaaaa (If you watched Skam, the og version, insert here Chris Schistad)

I LOVE A SKAM REFERENCEEEEEEE

Oh I could talk for ages about nearly every version except the Dutch version because I hated it but ughhhh William and Noora are the blueprint like bring me back series where people were actually just toxic as hell as they are in real life and we didn’t have to fix them with a redemption arc

But lol that “dramaaa” is so real

Ugh I wish they could have done a British skam

[uh-velkommen]

Just thinking about how when Skam NL was airing I kept struggling to get over the language barrier and now I'm sitting here listening to Joost thinking I should've continued learning Dutch instead of Norwegian 💀

[nogravitymom]

ok so as a long time skam fan i havent seen any orher versions, so i started with skam NL (bc im trying to learn dutch) but they only have 2 seasons, so i went on to Druck (bc i know a bit of german) AND HOLY SHIT SEASON THREE HAD ME IN PEAK ANXIETY OH MY GOD.

that was fucking kino.

fuck

[admireforever]

SKAM NL (s02e10)

[markno]

<3

i probably need an intro post on here but i’m not abt to format it so hi :-) i’m isobel or issy (she/her)! i was born in 2001 and i’m from new york.

i’m a filmmaker and a linguist - i speak english, german, & french and i’m learning russian, spanish, dutch, & korean. i do a lot of film photography. i am an avid pinterest user and i reorganise my boards like every other day.

i like a lot of shit including nct, paul mescal, newsies, skam + it’s remakes, percy jackson, the hunger games, inhaler, asoiaf, outer banks, dark (2017), and sabrina carpenter. i'm also a film nerd in general.

as of late i've also been getting back into reading, which i haven't done much of in a really long time. :-)

[lapetiteceinturesworld]

Thank you for @rousie the tagging. 🥰

three ships:

Grace and Tommy from Peaky Blinders, they are my OTP, they would have been perfect to become the definition of a power couple if SK hadn't deprived them of that chance. I am currently working on a fanfiction about them.

Eliott and Lucas from Skam France, their presence shine through the whole series, and it's only because of them that season three became my favourite.

Aldo and Regan from Alone With You in the Ether, they made me understand how much more the world is than what I perceive and see of it, how much beauty there is in the little things, and that living with ourselves is the hardest and most beautiful task we could ever have in life.

first ever ship:

Marc and Faythe from the Shifters book series, I loved how fiery they are, how passionate and unrestrained their love is, and how vibrant their chemistry is. I can't even blame them for their dump decisions. I'm currently re-reading the first book in the series.

last song - cigarettes after sex - john wayne

last movie - When Marnie was there, a Studio Ghibli film, no other character in a film or book I've seen myself as much as in Anna, she embodied my teenage self. I cried through the last twenty minutes.

currently reading - laura kneidle originally dutch novel, which I'm reading in a hungarian translation. And the Stray by Rachel Vincent.

currently watching - Violet Evergarden. I cried during almost every single episode.

currently consuming - my braincells to figure out a good smut scene for Grace and Tommy.

currently craving - donnut, ice coffee and book shopping.

[skamremakesfromhell]

anybody watch this yet? it's not geoblocked as far as i can tell in the us but you know no english subtitles. they aren't posting it on the old skam nl youtube but on the npo3 channel. i imagine the trailer was just posted on skam nl to promote it

the style has got me currently interested and this first clip wasn't too bad to follow without knowing dutch (but that will probably change).

it's certainly a teenage love affair so far lol

[slayerkitty]

helloo!! sending you the ask as promised :)) firstly, how are you? how’s your health? hope you’re feeling better now!!

so here’s what i was thinking, completely entertaining the thought that ep1 & 4 of OF were in fact referencing SKAM. the reason i even thought of this comparison between OF & SKAM was because of the title cards in ep1 & 4. as i was researching, i also found that texting between characters which was used as a motif in SKAM, also shows up in in OF ep4 between nick & top (i’ve attached screenshots for all of this). however, for reasons such as the fact that the narrative frameworks used in OF don’t repeat in a linear pattern and that there definitely has to be a reason behind why a particular narrative framework was chosen for a particular ep, i think the reference runs deeper than just the title cards and text trails. given your post on narrative frameworks in OF & the super tiny discussion we’ve had in its comments, i thought i’d ask you for your opinion on this :))

title cards part 1:

SKAM:

ONLY FRIENDS:

text trails:

SKAM:

ONLY FRIENDS:

title cards part 2:

SKAM: i’m not sure if we saw title cards of the name/actual title variety in SKAM and i couldn’t find any in my brief YT rewatches also but pls do lmk if u find any!!

ONLY FRIENDS:

lil disclaimer here, i watched the dutch remake of SKAM till mid of s3 (which is the queer season) when it was airing, so sometime in late 2019/early 2020. the original SKAM was also polish so there might be a few discrepancies between the two shows (none that i came across tho) and some gaps in my memory but anyway, coming back to the point.

so for context, the most important thing about SKAM that remained consistent across all of its remakes (i think) was that it told the story of a group of teenagers within a high school in whichever city the show took place and while each season had a new protagonist/core characters etc. they were all connected and were friends w each other (for example the protagonist of s3 was classmates w the protagonist of s1 (and as far as i remember friends w her boyfriend?) so more like everyone was a friend of a friend/classmates etc.). this meant that while each season dealt w a different couple/core group of characters, these characters and their plot was still impacted by the side characters, the side plot lines, the past, the present etc. and vice versa.

now, one thing that i noticed in both ep1 & 4 of OF was that we seem to move away from the typical couples and get a larger peek into the relationships of all the characters, their dynamics w each other, different past storylines etc. more than in the other 3 eps. ep1 was obviously more of an intro/context-setting episode where we were introduced to each character, the different relationships we’re to get etc. but ep4 specifically went more into the past of the friend group, top & sand’s past, explored vulnerability in nick & sand’s friendship, the whole ordeal with ray & mew. it essentially explored relationships between characters from different couples (in both the past & the present), that we otherwise haven’t seen much of at all. do you see the similarity i see?

now where am i going with this? idk either, this is the point where i get stuck. now while all of this could easily be chalked off as part of building the plot in OF and have no connection to SKAM, i am just not able to ignore these similarities. i also didn’t go too deep into my own research/exploration of this similarity so there might be stuff that i missed (pls pls tell me if u think i have) but i think a deep dive is extremely worthy here. further, i think that as more eps air, and we get to some new narrative frameworks/old ones repeating, we’ll probably be able to identify patterns better and get more insight into this similarity and arrive at the purpose/rationale behind the other narrative frameworks.

what are your thoughts @slayerkitty? do you see what i see or am i trying to connect dots that are worlds apart? cant wait to hear your thoughts on this!!

also also, so i have been reading the ephemerality squads posts on voyeurism and how OF explores this motif and i found some really cool connections to SKAM in this regard. i’ll not go into too much detail here because this ask is already miles long but apparently SKAM poland played a lot with the use of social media in its show and the characters had real, live instagram accounts that fans could access between airs. additionally, when SKAM poland was airing, the official SKAM website would apparently drop 5-minute clips of the show at the same time as when the scene occurred within the show’s universe (as in if two characters had a chat at 9.30am on tuesday morn, the scene would drop at the same time) throughout the week at random intervals and then these would be compiled into the final, weekly episodes. i’m not sure if the show intended to incorporate these in the context of voyeurism, but do you see the controlled voyeurism similarities?

Aww, thank you for asking. I'm doing a bit better, not quite 100%, but getting there.

Oooooo you gave me some stuff to chew on.

I'm not sure if the days are an homage to SKAM or not, but that is a very iconic shade of yellow, so I can't rule it out. P'Jojo did say there was more to the whole day's of the week thing because it was a way to show how structured Mew was (apparently it got cut). I think I'm gonna add this to my narrative frameworks post as a visual moment for episode one.

Text trails are harder because it's very common for shows to do this. I don't know if we can correlate this back to anything specific because I think it's just a sign of the times with phones. Having said that, you could be right and combined with the yellow text cards...

So I have watched all the queer seasons of all the SKAMs, lol (except newer seasons of SKAM France cause that show is on like season 10 omg), and pieces of other seasons. I do not recall if the titles ever appeared on screen, I will have to look into that. If they did, that could possibly lean us toward more certainty.

Now I've seen people mention that OF is more along the lines of Queer as Folk, which P'Jojo has referenced, but I wouldn't necessarily shoot down the core friend group being a kind of homage to SKAM either. It's not a perfect parallel either way. (And yes, Isak and Jonas are BFF, and Jonas dates the main from season one, though they break up later, and omg, I forgot her name).

YES!!!!! The way that SKAM airs to this day (I think France, Germany, and maybe Italy are the only ones still on air, but apparently Korea is gonna try their hand at it next year??) is that clips drop during the week at the time they take place. So if the characters are doing shit at 1am, a clip is dropping at 1am. Then, at the end of the week, the network airs all the clips together as the epiosde on tv. SKAM was revolutionary and wild. They did social media, too, and the nature of its release combined with that does have a very voyeuristic vibe as well.

Season three of original SKAM (Norway) was also an homage to the late 90s film William Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, so it could fit in with the late 90s aesthetic we've picked up on in OF.

I think you are definitely not wrong to have made these correlations - I see them, too! I think we might need a few more episodes before I wanna weigh in with any certainty, but I am like this right now: 👀👀👀👀👀

[liptonoos]

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