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Viv liked this thread about Stolas learning accountability 🙂
this link and screen grabs below
@durbinfan13 think this better addresses what you were worried about. 🙂
The episode warning made me laugh
(wasn't sure how easy it was to read or not)
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@durbinfan13 yer, my guess is bad fit on both sides too.
Her joke about amber alerts, when they meet in spring broken, suggest that she knew Blitz really wanted kids and that she didn't.
It looks to be at max around the 6 year mark back so he probably adopted Loona soon after.
Lots of relationships just don't work because of wanting different things for the future.
It's very likely having kids then would have hurt her career.
The guy who knew Blitz at Bee's party, would have known him from when he was with Verosika. And thought that level of partying was normal. It's likely that's what they were like on a night out together.
Blitz looks knackered and sloshed.
From Verosika's comment, "Anyway, meet my new Hellhound, Vortex. Unlike you, he actually does his job well"; we know his job was her bodyguard.
It would mean long hours, compulsory partying, and a lot stress.
Between this, and arguing about kids could explain her saying Blitz was a selfish lover.
Long hours+arguing+drinking+stress= lower sex drive.
Blitz also calls her a whore a few times might have been some cheating on her part, or at the least not defining the relationship properly. With him expecting a closed relationship and her not?? (I'm definitely less sure on this bit because it's Blitz he could just be swearing).
I do wonder if Verosika's tattoo is going to be what makes Blitz run.
I've seen a fair number of impulsive partner's name tattoos leading to really big fights.
Especially when people aren't on the same page with where the relationship is going.
i can’t wait to see some more backstory and/or closure for verosika and blitzø
this clip from the trailer seems like verosika’s hand holding the knife? that is chopping off a fake blitzø head while verosika shouts “you are so shitty!” (presumably at blitzø)
followed by this clip and blitzø shouting back that “we live in hell, everyone’s shitty”
blitzø is justifies his own shitty behavior by claiming that that’s just the way everyone is in hell. but that doesn’t diminish the fact that even demons have free will to make better choices and that all choices have consequences
i am so struck by the fact that these two dated in the past but verosika hasn’t been able to move on. i don’t get the vibe that either of them were very good for each other, but the prt that interests me the most is how neither of them have moved on
blitzø hasn’t moved on because he hates himself. so he disses verosika’s ability to seduce people (which is her job as a succubus) to his coworkers and actively challenges her in Spring Broken. verosika hasn’t moved on because she hates blitzø. so she disses his abilities in bed in front of everyone in Ozzie’s, which was a huge deal there because good sex is important in the lust ring. and not to mention it was in front of stolas
i wonder if part of blitzø’s healing process this season will be him moving on from verosika in some way. maybe he can learn to make reparations for her, maybe he will learn to forgive himself, or maybe he will even see that both of them were at fault in this relationship
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I don’t know if it’s my own bias but hearing endeavor say that he wanted to stop training touya because he was injuring himself with his quirk and didn’t want to see him hurt sounded hypocritical or fake considering this is the same man who beat up a 5 year old shouto and his wife. He didn’t seem to have a problem with his son getting injured. This may be the ‘retcon’ some fans think horikoshi is doing trying to backtrack some of endeavor’s abusive actions.
It’s confusing to me that this man was apparently worried about his son’s health and that’s why he stopped training him and supposedly had more kids, but he also still wanted to surpass all might with his children, so it wasn’t JUST to convince touya to give up. And the dialogue in this flashback makes me question another flashback scene before where endeavor says it was rei’s idea to have more kids, but this flashback seems to suggest she was against having more kids because she knew touya would understand why.
I don’t know if its my own bias that I can’t get over what he did to shoto as a child and maybe I can’t accept he was never that bad before, as endeavor fans seem to suggest.
Do you feel it’s odd that endeavor refused to train touya because of his burns, but he eventually would beat up shouto and his wife? Or maybe despite shouto being the golden child with the perfect quirk, touya was endeavor’s favorite and that’s why he seemed more cautious with his burns and wanted to protect him? Sorry this is long or if you’ve answered it before
No worries! Well...
I guess my opinion on The Great Retcon Debate is that in a weekly manga, to present things one way and then switch and switch and switch again is messy execution at best, especially when the manga as a whole isn’t great with nuance. When you're dealing with such sensitive subject matter, it can be hurtful to readers. I wish people defensive about the retcon debate would acknowledge this, even if they don’t agree with it.
However, remember how Horikoshi stated he once didn’t intend to write sympathetic villains and I’ve expressed my doubts because Shigaraki was framed as sympathetic from chapter 20ish? One example of a character where I do wonder is Endeavor. He was framed as a monster in the beginning with very little nuance (seriously, there is no redemptive framing around him in the sports festival arc).
It may not be an intentional retcon (meaning for all we know Hori’s plans were always the same, but the only way we know that is through the work), but either way I think I’d call it a writing flaw exacerbated by the weekly schedule--a flaw that comes across as, well, a retcon.
Then we have the Pro-Hero Arc and beyond, where Endeavor basically stepped into the role of protagonist of the Todoroki subplot, widely a fan-favorite subplot. People are always eager to excuse protagonist flaws (see Eren Jaeger in SnK) and reluctant to consider that the narrative might be criticizing them.
I think the fandom divide fixates too much on the initial framing or too much on the framing Pro-Hero Arc and beyond. This is exacerbated by the fact that sometimes we still get the initial framing, like in the Joint Training Arc and when Enji was mad that Deku and Bakugou were also interns; hence what I said in the first paragraph about switching framing.
(I mean, the latter’s maybe intended to be humor, but is it really the right place for that humor given the past framing and his storyline? Imo it’s something that’s fair to critique.)
Most likely we’re supposed to meld the framings together when predicting where the story might go (people can have their own individual reactions to his arc of course), but it’d be better if the story melded them together on its own (I think it’s starting to with these recent chapters). However, it would have been much better written if framed that way initially, but I think assuming Enji won’t actually complete a redemption arc is misreading. Whether or not it’s satisfying or tasteful, though, is entirely up to the reader.
This chapter itself did not strike me as a retcon. I liked it. It is abundantly clear Enji is at fault for this situation, and people refusing to acknowledge that are ignorant and misreading themselves (and, in the case of many given their behavior, fandom bullies themselves; I wonder what they see in Enji). But this isn’t unique to BNHA; in every fandom I’ve ever been in, abusers or neglectful parents get defended before their victims.
As for Enji and the disconnect, I think it’s an example of the sunk-cost fallacy as written by @thekingofwinter here. People change, and don’t, and abuse usually escalates, so this chapter’s expanding on the situation doesn’t strike me as terribly odd.
I do not personally think it is a retcon that Enji stated Rei wanted Fuyumi. The implication is that Fuyumi and Touya are close in age--but the age gap between Fuyumi and Natsuo and then Natsuo and Shouto is 3-4 years (when quirks manifest).
Enji’s narration is not reliable, so he only told us that glimpse, and now we’re seeing that there was a lot more to it than he let on. I think this is a decent way to show the lack of reliability in his narration. However, what I said earlier still stands: given the subject matter, this may not be the best place or the best way to convey things and is subject to individual opinion.
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Hi, so I was wondering what u think this chapter is supposed to mean for hawks character? Is this him reluctantly following orders or is he seriously questioning what side he is on? Twice is obviously not gonna change, and I don’t think hawks understands how much his betrayal hurt twice. Twice devotes all of himself to his comrades happiness. He wouldn’t leave them. What was your opinion on hawks offering to help twice and not wanting to fight him? And twice’s reaction to it
(tl;dr at the bottom)
hey ! so i think a lot of hawks’ character is still shrouded in mystery given that we still don’t know much about him as an individual, as much as we are familiar with Hawks, his hero persona. but with that being said, I think this chapter was pretty clear in showing that there’s a part of hawks that realizes the current system is flawed, even if he isn’t currently planning to abandon the hpsc as some of us (such as myself) would like to see in the future
i think before the chapter released, there were two main paths that his story couldve taken.
in one situation, he could’ve incapacitated twice and taken him out of battle immediately. aka, no talking, no trying to explain himself, just wrap up the job he was given to do. this scenario would suggest that there is no capacity for hawks to change or evolve away from the hpsc. this outcome would mean that , for the rest of the story, he would most likely remain heavily tied to this idea that heroics hold a moral superiority over the villains. that sympathy shouldnt be spared for people like twice because they are “bad”. (aka, feed into this binary of good vs bad)
in the other situation, hawks would hesitate or try to reason with twice, and show that there’s some sort of internal conflict that he’s dealing with. this outcome, unlike with the first scenario, would insinuate that hawks’ story will, at some point, deviate from the path the hpsc intends for him to take. that he will, to some degree, question the institution he works in / contributes to. aka: is what he doing the right thing to do (emphasis on morally grey characters / situations unlike the black/white perspective of situation 1)
chapter 264 shows us that second situation: hawks, despite having the upper hand (cornering twice with all of his feathers drawn), does not immediately “finish the job”. he tries to reason with twice by saying that he can “rebuild” his life and start over. “atone for his crimes” and so on so forth. in my opinion, this is a really good step in hawks leaving the cage the hero commission forced him in at such a young age. i mean, as other people have already stated earlier, this isn’t something he will be able to overcome quickly or easily at all. but, it shows that he’s starting to make some decisions for himself. the hero commission does not seem like they would care for the rehabilitation of the criminals. it doesnt seem like they really care for how these people “feel” and would rather smush the rebellion if it meant upholding the current standard of society
the cool thing here is that we see the conflict between hawks and the commission in a very visual manner. scenes where hawks looks menacing are the scenes where he’s speaking with a sense of authority imposed by the hpsc and his status as the #2. this is where we see him talk about the logistics of his mission, and these lines are accompanied by an obscured, shadowed face. emotion is removed from the equation. he is cold and calculating. unforgiving.
compare it to when he starts to give twice a “chance”. we see his face and his emotions clear as day. from this point forward, we’re seeing what keigo wants to say, and what keigo wants to see from twice. his face is revealed when he says “because you are a good person”; he places faith in twice even when the commission couldnt (wont).
he sees twice’s tears. he sees twice break down and it all ties back to the notion that , in my opinion, hawks WAS connected to jin, even though he might frame it as part of his mission. yes, he got “close” to twice because he had to. and yes he used / manipulated twice. we can’t deny that. but he also tells twice that he recognizes the good in him and, through his internal monologue in the end, we know !! that keigo did care for him to an extent. what twice said to him back at the end, the thing about friends caring about each other and wanting to help hawks out of the “cage” he was “stuck in” resonated with him!! and thats why he offered his help in getting twice “back on his feet”
to me, i feel like he does understand how much this betrayal hurt twice. i think he tries to put on a facade and act like it doesnt affect him bc its his job (as in . he’s not supposed to get attached) but then you see THIS panel at the end
and its obvious he’s upset and reflecting on the idea that what he’s doing and how he’s using people isnt okay and that, yeah, jin has a point . somewhere along the way, heroics lost sight of what it meant to help people
idk. its a lot to process. maybe im reading this all wrong, but to Me i feel as though this is a sign that hawks isnt as tied to the commission as he originally was. because although he’s still doing his job as he’s supposed to, he’s also grieving? in his own way? recognizing the harm he’s caused twice and understanding that this is just a really shitty situation. like others have mentioned, i don’t think we could’ve expected this big “switch” in hawks right away but this is the perfect step in the right direction imo
to answer your question, i don’t think he’s questioning his position just yet but . he does seem to be emotionally distressed and perhaps critical of himself for what he has to do. @miriio describes this better than i can:
“if anything i think i’d be bad writing for hawks to join the league this quickly. we clearly see hawks struggling with his options and he genuinely seems to feel bad about what he’s doing….but what he’s doing is what he’s been trained to believe is right. if hawks really wanted to i’m sure he could’ve killed twice instantly. but he didn’t because he doesn’t want to. he even said he would help twice after because he knows he’s a good person. it’s clear hawks doesn’t wanna do any of this but as far as he’s concerned it’s his only option”
im really bad at explaining how i feel abt this but @miriio and @spinneraki both make ! really good points on what this means for him as a character too if u want to check out those discussions :-)
tl;dr this chapter shows hawks has the capacity to change, given his choice to “talk it out” with twice and his later reflection on how the “bad ones are always us hero scum”.
#long post#bnha spoilers#bnha 264#bnha#hawks#twice#when i write long posts like this i feel like i dont make sense#or somehow contradict myself#so hopefully this kinda answers ur question#durbinfan13#asktag
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The fact that dabi brought hawks into the league/liberation front but says he never trusted him makes me wonder....why bring him if you didn’t trust him?! Why do you think he brought him in and didn’t voice his doubts to the team? And it seems one half of fans take dabi’s actions in the chapter as a sign that he cares about twice and the other says it proves he cares about no one since he nearly burned twice alive with his flames. Do u think dabi does care about twice? Will he mourn his death?
I’ve kind of gave up trying to predict what Horikoshi is going to do with Dabi honestly. I have my own thoughts based on what I’m seeing and reading, and my thoughts about what I would like to see him to with Dabi, but that’s it. I can tell you what I think based on what Horikoshi is giving me, but I won’t try to theorize too deep.
I’ve said it before, but I’m really not all that invested in Dabi in general, so I’m not sure I’m the best person to talk about these things. But if you want to know, this latest chapter pretty much confirmed everything I ever thought about Dabi. He cares really deeply about the LOV and all the distance he puts between them is nothing but a facade (whether he realises it or not). It always comes down to the difference between what he says and what he does. Why even come back for Twice in the first place if he doesn’t care about him? He had nothing to gain from it, the LOV is now really powerful with a lot of different members, so in the grand schemes of things, losing Twice isn’t a big blow for them. A huge emotional blow, but not a tactical one. Everyone else in his division (including Geten) was running away from the attack and Dabi was only one walking against the flow to go save Twice. Literally, why would he do that if he didn’t care? He keeps risking his life for them again and again.
The high five is also worth mentioning. I know it can seem like a ridiculously small detail in the grand scheme of things, but that’s why it’s so important. Why draw it? Why give us this moment of symbiosis, trust, and chemistry between Twice and Dabi when it literally would have SO EASY to not draw it at all? Manga is a primarily visual medium. Pictures mean things. What you show and you don’t show is really important.
I said it before when I was discussing the whole Touya/Dabi thing. As far as we know, Natsuo is literally the only one who cares about Touya and misses him because he is the only one who showed it to us. If we’re supposed to believe that Fuyumi feels the same way then we HAVE to see it, even in a subtle way. And here, that’s exactly what Horikoshi did for Dabi and Twice. He took the time to draw this high five between them because it means something.
Also more generally, I just don’t understand why he stays with the LOV if he doesn’t care. “He’s just using them for his own goal” okay, so what’s that goal? If you can’t tell me what that goal is, then this argument has literally no ground and no meaning. It’s not just a personal vengeance against Endeavor, he had many occasion to kill him by now. And if his goal is to “get rid of hero society and fake heroes” well then congratulation because it’s the exact same goal as literally everyone in the LOV so he isn’t using them. He is part of them. That’s how it works. It’s not like the LOV was always as powerful as it is now, they used to be weak underdogs for a really long time, long enough that Dabi had the chance to say “fuck this I’m out”. Even during the MVA arc. Why come along to rescue Giran from the Liberation Army if he doesn’t care? Why follow Shigaraki in this suicidal mission when he could very easily bailout?
So yeah. As I’ve said before, I believe that Dabi’s arc will be about admitting that he is afraid to care about the LOV because of his past trauma with the Todorokis, and his development will be about accepting them as his new family and opening up to others again.
I know this ask was sent before we got today’s chapter, but … considering that we see Dabi having a literal mental breakdown right after Twice’s death as he talks about how it’s physically impossible for him to cry and as he yells that he doesn’t care about these people that he keeps risking his life for … yeah. I know I just said that I didn’t want to make predictions with him, but I’m right about this.
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challenge mode is not sending literally all of them to everyone
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durbinfan13 replied to your post “The heroes’ hands are dirtier than ours”
The thought of a dabi redemption arc is interesting. Never thought of that. On the other hand I would be sad to see shigaraki lose an ally. But dabi of all people switching sides would be a shock.
To clarify: I don’t think Dabi is going to be the only lov member who will get a redemption arc. That wouldn’t make much sense since Dabi isn’t the only villain who’s been given a sympathetic backstory. I think that all the original lov members (not including redestro’s people) are going to get redemption arcs as well. All of them were failed by hero society in one way or another, and all their backstories point out how their villain awakening could’ve been prevented if only hero society had cared a little more about them. So it’s less a matter of Shigaraki losing an ally and more of a matter of the lov confronting hero society with all its flaws, until hero society will eventually correct its wrongdoings and save all the children who weren’t saved.
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durbinfan13replied to yourphoto(愛- Love) Yamamoto-san and Kubo-san are at...
It’s quotes like this that get me….Are they or aren’t they a couple? One leans towards yes the other no. Who to believe?!
I don’t know what you mean lol. Kubo called them soulmates TWICE, says their rings are engagement rings, says Yuuri’s skates for his lover, after episode seven said to the idea of them getting married ‘not yet’, and directly compares them to other couples when talking about relationships wrt to people around Yurio.
Literally why do people think she leans toward no. Is it because of a certain person’s bad translations?
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Should we be scared that we still don't know if Gotham is renewed or not? It's in the most likely renewed category but it could go either way.
Expressing concern for the status of the show couldn’t hurt, via the Gotham or Fox Twitter. It would only show that there are fans out there that very much want it to come back for another season, and are anxious to know.
As a fellow fan, I share your feelings.
Thanks.
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Stolas being a pretty Disney princess in the music video 😁
Bryce Pinkham is singing a fan song that will be canon ish.
Not the next episode
@durbinfan13 looks like "look my way" is a good bet 🙂
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Is it true this yuri on ice didn't start as a romance? So was the pair skate gonna happen with them just as friends? What made it change into a romance?
afaik yep they didn’t plan it as a romance, when they initially began writing/production. kubo-sensei always wanted to write a “deep bond between a coach and athlete” but we can extrapolate from early tweets around the time that she would have been writing yoi that in the writing room, when writing the actual characters themselves that bond just went a certain romantic direction and they went with it and changed as things kept developing.
i have no idea if the ice dance was even planned from the beginning at all - the results of the GPF definitely were, but they did change the ending to adjust for yuuri and victor not wanting to live apart from each other, so who knows. either way, it turned out romantic.
as for what made it change - well, the writing process. when you write, you tend to find that characters take on a life of their own. scenes you initially planned, relationships you just laid out bare foundations, all of these shift when you start getting into the actual heads of the characters themselves, and that’s probably just what happened. so they just... let it happen. i also suspect that director sayo yamamoto, who’s known for her work on series with fairly progressive themes, had a hand in getting it to happen.
authorial intent matters in some cases, but in this one i think they just literally realized they were writing two characters falling in love and were like “cool okay let’s do it”
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durbinfan13 replied to your post: So apparently Dabi wants to cry but he physically...
So is dabi sad, or was that just sarcasm from him?
he’s super sad, yes//
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I’ve curious about something and I’d like your opinion, we know that shigaraki accidentally killed his mom, sister, and grandparents but intentionally killed his dad, and liked it. But he was still a scared child in the end who looked for help and got none. Would he have been different if he was saved? If he enjoyed murdering his dad does that mean AFO wasn’t 100% responsible for turning him evil if he took pleasure in murder? I think he was guilty after. So could he have changed if he was saved
Hi! Thanks for the ask!
So, both in real life and in BNHA I don’t think that the world is cleanly divided into “murderers” and “other ppl.” BNHA isn’t super gray in its morality, but it does show us that Hawks is a murderer, Endeavor pretty much is too, as are the villains. There isn’t something inherently wrong with Shigaraki that AFO exploited, and even if there was, that would still be abuse.
But I also think we can’t say oh, it’s 100% AFO’s or Endeavor’s fault. The reality is that yes, these two abused Shigaraki and Dabi respectively and without that abuse, it’s unlikely they would have turned out this way. But Dabi and Shigaraki are still making their own choices--now. So, grayness is present to a degree.
To address Shiggy’s past... a six-year-old child cannot comprehend what taking a life actually means, and I know it’s fiction and not real life, but I don’t think we’re supposed to see Shigaraki as magically precocious in any way, least of all morality. Him taking pleasure in the split-second killing of the man who had beaten and hurt him for years is a byproduct of him having his quirk: if his quirk had been something else, if he hadn’t already accidentally killed his family, I kind of doubt he would have planned to stab his dad or whatever. But even disregarding the quirk: at a psychological level, kids are not neurologically capable of understanding what death is and what it means. They barely have an understanding of time; “forever” won’t make much sense to them. :’’’’’(
As for whether Shiggy would have changed, I think the manga does give us an answer in chapter 22:
If only Shiggy had a good mentor to follow :’’) I think he will get one. Eventually.
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Do yuri and victor consider themselves engaged or is it still just a 'good luck charm'? That I never got. Also, is yuri moved in with victor? And do different studios have different censorship issues cuz I've seen anime with a gay romance and they show them kissing.
in my opinion they know they’re engaged. like, the show gives the rings a lot of importance and always highlights them even in passing shots lol. So i think we’re supposed to interpret them as engagement rings. Also, yeah I think Yuuri went to St. Petersburg with Victor and they’re going to train there based on the bridge he’s running on at the end. As for the censorship thing, I’m not sure about MAPPA specifically honestly. But just based on YoI in itself, it seems like they’re willing to push a lot of boundaries, so that makes me very hopeful. I’m optimistic that in the next season, we’ll get further confirmation of Yuuri and Victor’s relationship!!
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