#durbinfan13

[timkontheunsure]

Viv liked this thread about Stolas learning accountability 🙂

this link and screen grabs below

@durbinfan13 think this better addresses what you were worried about. 🙂

The episode warning made me laugh

(wasn't sure how easy it was to read or not)

[angstandhappiness]

Interesting

@durbinfan13 That’s why when people say this is a complete role reversal, I think that’s wrong. Stolas isn’t rejecting Blitz’s advances because he has no interest, he’s not in the right headspace. And Blitz isn’t pushing for romance, he’s just openly showing affection and wants to comfort him. And we have proof that both love the other, they just have new challenges preventing them from pursuing a relationship. But now they are in a position to grow and learn about each other. Also I bet Blitz is feeling guilty after what Via said, so he won’t feel right pushing for a relationship.

It's not a complete role reversal...

People are treating what happened at Sinsmas as a complete role reversal between Stolas and Blitz, where Blitz is going to be the one chasing after Stolas, and Stolas pushing his advances away...

When the situation is a bit more nuanced than that...

Blitz and Stolas both don't have their masks up

The reason why Stolas had such a hard time in the season was because he had to take down those impenetrable walls Blitz put around himself. In that same vein, Stolas also had these walls up when he communicated with Blitz as well.

By the end of the season finale, those walls are down and these gentlemen are able to speak to each other face to face without keeping up a facade.

Blitz and Stolas are together 24/7 now

The reason why it was difficult for them to communicate before was because they were operating under the terms of their transactional agreement where their only excuse to meeting each other was during the nights of the full moon.

However, by the end of the season, both characters live and work together.

Blitz and Stolas have wildly different problems they have to overcome

Blitz, before, was not in the right headspace to give or receive love because he was still under the belief that his love hurts people and that he didn't deserve to be loved. Remember, one botched love confession literally mutilated his best friend, killed his mom, and destroyed the lives of his entire circus family.

The reason why Stolas isn't in the right headspace to give or receive love is because he's still processing his new way of life as a commoner, and the fact that his daughter doesn't want to see him. If anything, the main obstacle keeping these bozos apart now is Octavia.

Blitz and Stolas do love each other

Despite all the bullshit these men have put each other through, they both do genuinely have feelings for each other. However, Blitz knows that what Stolas needs right now isn't his love, but his support. And Blitz is happy with that because the only thing he wants to do right now is be there for Stolas.

When Blitz lost everything in the circus fire, he was alone with nobody to help him and guide him. However, when Stolas lost everything during the trial, he wasn't alone because Blitz was there to pick him back up.

Blitz doesn't know how to give up

While it is true that Stolas shuts Blitz out at this moment, Blitz doesn't give up and use that as a sign of rejection.

Instead, Blitz improvises by inviting Stolas to dance, and Stolas reciprocates.

If Stolas didn't want to dance with Blitz, he didn't have to, he could have just as easily shooed him away but he didn't. In fact, Stolas looks so happy to be invited to dance.

Blitz has this knack for getting Stolas to laugh, even in his most darkest days... so that helps too.

Blitz has a goal now

This is Blitz's endgame, his goal. Blitz wants to be at a place where he and Stolas could be happy and healthy, and live a life with their daughters by their side. He wants this, and Blitz is going to operate in a way to achieve it.

Because that is who Blitz is...

He is a tenacious bastard that doesn't know how to give up. He wanted to be his own boss, so he opened a business. He wanted an easy way to get to earth, so he fucked a Prince. He wanted a family, so he made his own eclectic one.

Blitz, despite the fact that he can be a complete asshole and an idiot, usually has a way of getting what he wants in the end.

[lemongogo]

Hi, so I was wondering what u think this chapter is supposed to mean for hawks character? Is this him reluctantly following orders or is he seriously questioning what side he is on? Twice is obviously not gonna change, and I don’t think hawks understands how much his betrayal hurt twice. Twice devotes all of himself to his comrades happiness. He wouldn’t leave them. What was your opinion on hawks offering to help twice and not wanting to fight him? And twice’s reaction to it

(tl;dr at the bottom)

hey ! so i think a lot of hawks’ character is still shrouded in mystery given that we still don’t know much about him as an individual, as much as we are familiar with Hawks, his hero persona. but with that being said, I think this chapter was pretty clear in showing that there’s a part of hawks that realizes the current system is flawed, even if he isn’t currently planning to abandon the hpsc as some of us (such as myself) would like to see in the future

i think before the chapter released, there were two main paths that his story couldve taken.

in one situation, he could’ve incapacitated twice and taken him out of battle immediately. aka, no talking, no trying to explain himself, just wrap up the job he was given to do. this scenario would suggest that there is no capacity for hawks to change or evolve away from the hpsc. this outcome would mean that , for the rest of the story, he would most likely remain heavily tied to this idea that heroics hold a moral superiority over the villains. that sympathy shouldnt be spared for people like twice because they are “bad”. (aka, feed into this binary of good vs bad)

in the other situation, hawks would hesitate or try to reason with twice, and show that there’s some sort of internal conflict that he’s dealing with. this outcome, unlike with the first scenario, would insinuate that hawks’ story will, at some point, deviate from the path the hpsc intends for him to take. that he will, to some degree, question the institution he works in / contributes to. aka: is what he doing the right thing to do (emphasis on morally grey characters / situations unlike the black/white perspective of situation 1)

chapter 264 shows us that second situation: hawks, despite having the upper hand (cornering twice with all of his feathers drawn), does not immediately “finish the job”. he tries to reason with twice by saying that he can “rebuild” his life and start over. “atone for his crimes” and so on so forth. in my opinion, this is a really good step in hawks leaving the cage the hero commission forced him in at such a young age. i mean, as other people have already stated earlier, this isn’t something he will be able to overcome quickly or easily at all. but, it shows that he’s starting to make some decisions for himself. the hero commission does not seem like they would care for the rehabilitation of the criminals. it doesnt seem like they really care for how these people “feel” and would rather smush the rebellion if it meant upholding the current standard of society

the cool thing here is that we see the conflict between hawks and the commission in a very visual manner. scenes where hawks looks menacing are the scenes where he’s speaking with a sense of authority imposed by the hpsc and his status as the #2. this is where we see him talk about the logistics of his mission, and these lines are accompanied by an obscured, shadowed face. emotion is removed from the equation. he is cold and calculating. unforgiving.

compare it to when he starts to give twice a “chance”. we see his face and his emotions clear as day. from this point forward, we’re seeing what keigo wants to say, and what keigo wants to see from twice. his face is revealed when he says “because you are a good person”; he places faith in twice even when the commission couldnt (wont). 

he sees twice’s tears. he sees twice break down and it all ties back to the notion that , in my opinion, hawks WAS connected to jin, even though he might frame it as part of his mission. yes, he got “close” to twice because he had to. and yes he used / manipulated twice. we can’t deny that. but he also tells twice that he recognizes the good in him and, through his internal monologue in the end, we know !! that keigo did care for him to an extent. what twice said to him back at the end, the thing about friends caring about each other and wanting to help hawks out of the “cage” he was “stuck in” resonated with him!! and thats why he offered his help in getting twice “back on his feet”

to me, i feel like he does understand how much this betrayal hurt twice. i think he tries to put on a facade and act like it doesnt affect him bc its his job (as in . he’s not supposed to get attached) but then you see THIS panel at the end 

and its obvious he’s upset and reflecting on the idea that what he’s doing and how he’s using people isnt okay and that, yeah, jin has a point . somewhere along the way, heroics lost sight of what it meant to help people

idk. its a lot to process. maybe im reading this all wrong, but to Me i feel as though this is a sign that hawks isnt as tied to the commission as he originally was. because although he’s still doing his job as he’s supposed to, he’s also grieving? in his own way? recognizing the harm he’s caused twice and understanding that this is just a really shitty situation. like others have mentioned, i don’t think we could’ve expected this big “switch” in hawks right away but this is the perfect step in the right direction imo

to answer your question, i don’t think he’s questioning his position just yet but . he does seem to be emotionally distressed and perhaps critical of himself for what he has to do. @miriio​ describes this better than i can:

“if anything i think i’d be bad writing for hawks to join the league this quickly. we clearly see hawks struggling with his options and he genuinely seems to feel bad about what he’s doing….but what he’s doing is what he’s been trained to believe is right. if hawks really wanted to i’m sure he could’ve killed twice instantly. but he didn’t because he doesn’t want to. he even said he would help twice after because he knows he’s a good person. it’s clear hawks doesn’t wanna do any of this but as far as he’s concerned it’s his only option”

im really bad at explaining how i feel abt this but @miriio and @spinneraki both make ! really good points on what this means for him as a character too if u want to check out those discussions :-)

tl;dr this chapter shows hawks has the capacity to change, given his choice to “talk it out” with twice and his later reflection on how the “bad ones are always us hero scum”. 

[theteapotofdoom]

The fact that dabi brought hawks into the league/liberation front but says he never trusted him makes me wonder....why bring him if you didn’t trust him?! Why do you think he brought him in and didn’t voice his doubts to the team? And it seems one half of fans take dabi’s actions in the chapter as a sign that he cares about twice and the other says it proves he cares about no one since he nearly burned twice alive with his flames. Do u think dabi does care about twice? Will he mourn his death?

I’ve kind of gave up trying to predict what Horikoshi is going to do with Dabi honestly. I have my own thoughts based on what I’m seeing and reading, and my thoughts about what I would like to see him to with Dabi, but that’s it. I can tell you what I think based on what Horikoshi is giving me, but I won’t try to theorize too deep.

I’ve said it before, but I’m really not all that invested in Dabi in general, so I’m not sure I’m the best person to talk about these things. But if you want to know, this latest chapter pretty much confirmed everything I ever thought about Dabi. He cares really deeply about the LOV and all the distance he puts between them is nothing but a facade (whether he realises it or not). It always comes down to the difference between what he says and what he does. Why even come back for Twice in the first place if he doesn’t care about him? He had nothing to gain from it, the LOV is now really powerful with a lot of different members, so in the grand schemes of things, losing Twice isn’t a big blow for them. A huge emotional blow, but not a tactical one. Everyone else in his division (including Geten) was running away from the attack and Dabi was only one walking against the flow to go save Twice. Literally, why would he do that if he didn’t care? He keeps risking his life for them again and again. 

The high five is also worth mentioning. I know it can seem like a ridiculously small detail in the grand scheme of things, but that’s why it’s so important. Why draw it? Why give us this moment of symbiosis, trust, and chemistry between Twice and Dabi when it literally would have SO EASY to not draw it at all? Manga is a  primarily visual medium. Pictures mean things. What you show and you don’t show is really important.

I said it before when I was discussing the whole Touya/Dabi thing. As far as we know, Natsuo is literally the only one who cares about Touya and misses him because he is the only one who showed it to us. If we’re supposed to believe that Fuyumi feels the same way then we HAVE to see it, even in a subtle way. And here, that’s exactly what Horikoshi did for Dabi and Twice. He took the time to draw this high five between them because it means something. 

Also more generally, I just don’t understand why he stays with the LOV if he doesn’t care. “He’s just using them for his own goal” okay, so what’s that goal? If you can’t tell me what that goal is, then this argument has literally no ground and no meaning. It’s not just a personal vengeance against Endeavor, he had many occasion to kill him by now. And if his goal is to “get rid of hero society and fake heroes” well then congratulation because it’s the exact same goal as literally everyone in the LOV so he isn’t using them. He is part of them. That’s how it works. It’s not like the LOV was always as powerful as it is now, they used to be weak underdogs for a really long time, long enough that Dabi had the chance to say “fuck this I’m out”. Even during the MVA arc. Why come along to rescue Giran from the Liberation Army if he doesn’t care? Why follow Shigaraki in this suicidal mission when he could very easily bailout?

So yeah. As I’ve said before, I believe that Dabi’s arc will be about admitting that he is afraid to care about the LOV because of his past trauma with the Todorokis, and his development will be about accepting them as his new family and opening up to others again. 

I know this ask was sent before we got today’s chapter, but … considering that we see Dabi having a literal mental breakdown right after Twice’s death as he talks about how it’s physically impossible for him to cry and as he yells that he doesn’t care about these people that he keeps risking his life for … yeah. I know I just said that I didn’t want to make predictions with him, but I’m right about this.

[timkontheunsure]

@durbinfan13 yer, my guess is bad fit on both sides too.

Her joke about amber alerts, when they meet in spring broken, suggest that she knew Blitz really wanted kids and that she didn't.

It looks to be at max around the 6 year mark back so he probably adopted Loona soon after.

Lots of relationships just don't work because of wanting different things for the future.

It's very likely having kids then would have hurt her career.

The guy who knew Blitz at Bee's party, would have known him from when he was with Verosika. And thought that level of partying was normal. It's likely that's what they were like on a night out together.

Blitz looks knackered and sloshed.

From Verosika's comment, "Anyway, meet my new Hellhound, Vortex. Unlike you, he actually does his job well"; we know his job was her bodyguard.

It would mean long hours, compulsory partying, and a lot stress.

Between this, and arguing about kids could explain her saying Blitz was a selfish lover.

Long hours+arguing+drinking+stress= lower sex drive.

Blitz also calls her a whore a few times might have been some cheating on her part, or at the least not defining the relationship properly. With him expecting a closed relationship and her not?? (I'm definitely less sure on this bit because it's Blitz he could just be swearing).

I do wonder if Verosika's tattoo is going to be what makes Blitz run.

I've seen a fair number of impulsive partner's name tattoos leading to really big fights.

Especially when people aren't on the same page with where the relationship is going.

i can’t wait to see some more backstory and/or closure for verosika and blitzø

this clip from the trailer seems like verosika’s hand holding the knife? that is chopping off a fake blitzø head while verosika shouts “you are so shitty!” (presumably at blitzø)

followed by this clip and blitzø shouting back that “we live in hell, everyone’s shitty”

blitzø is justifies his own shitty behavior by claiming that that’s just the way everyone is in hell. but that doesn’t diminish the fact that even demons have free will to make better choices and that all choices have consequences

i am so struck by the fact that these two dated in the past but verosika hasn’t been able to move on. i don’t get the vibe that either of them were very good for each other, but the prt that interests me the most is how neither of them have moved on

blitzø hasn’t moved on because he hates himself. so he disses verosika’s ability to seduce people (which is her job as a succubus) to his coworkers and actively challenges her in Spring Broken. verosika hasn’t moved on because she hates blitzø. so she disses his abilities in bed in front of everyone in Ozzie’s, which was a huge deal there because good sex is important in the lust ring. and not to mention it was in front of stolas

i wonder if part of blitzø’s healing process this season will be him moving on from verosika in some way. maybe he can learn to make reparations for her, maybe he will learn to forgive himself, or maybe he will even see that both of them were at fault in this relationship

[kushbag]

The store is good now with enough shit guys

[timkontheunsure]

Stolas being a pretty Disney princess in the music video 😁

Bryce Pinkham is singing a fan song that will be canon ish.

Not the next episode

@durbinfan13 looks like "look my way" is a good bet 🙂

[thyandrawrites]

durbinfan13 replied to your post “So to sum it up Stain questioned Shigaraki’s lack of a cause to fight...”

I love shigaraki’s growth. But I wonder if his breakthrough just now in his fight, will affect his behavior towards the league. Because we saw giran and twice(or maybe a clone, I forgot) running from the impact of his quirk, so they were in danger. Will he be more reckless and not care for the safety of his team because he is so ‘liberated’ now?

well, imho there would be no point in writing an entire arc focused on the league learning to trust him as their leader if right afterwards he was gonna become a threat to them. 

Let’s not forget that Shigaraki hasn’t slept properly in a month and a half. Not to mention that he just recovered all his memories of his childhood trauma. He’s not thinking straight. I doubt he’s even thinking at all. Give him a break, it’s not like he meant to harm his own friends 

[angstandhappiness]

Interesting

@durbinfan13 Yeah at the very least, Stolas still loves Blitz but doesn’t fully believe Blitz feels the same. He hasn’t fallen out of love like some fans think

As cute as the scene of them dancing is, I think it’s notable that Stolas said, “I imagine we look ridiculous right now.” Even before then, he said Blitz risked his life fighting Andrealphus “in return.” When we know his little red ass would have done it no matter what. If Mastermind never happened and one month of not talking turned into two…three…four…and Blitz heard Stolas needed him? He’s there instantly.

Even after everything, Stolas is giving Blitz an out. Giving him an opportunity for Blitz to pull the rug out from under him so it’s not a surprise when it happens again. And again. And again. And again…

But Blitz would never. And hopefully Stolas’ cPTSD ass will see that soon.

[harocat]

durbinfan13replied to yourphoto(愛- Love) Yamamoto-san and Kubo-san are at...

It’s quotes like this that get me….Are they or aren’t they a couple? One leans towards yes the other no. Who to believe?!

I don’t know what you mean lol. Kubo called them soulmates TWICE, says their rings are engagement rings, says Yuuri’s skates for his lover, after episode seven said to the idea of them getting married ‘not yet’, and directly compares them to other couples when talking about relationships wrt to people around Yurio. 

Literally why do people think she leans toward no. Is it because of a certain person’s bad translations? 

[justgotham]

Should we be scared that we still don't know if Gotham is renewed or not? It's in the most likely renewed category but it could go either way.

Expressing concern for the status of the show couldn’t hurt, via the Gotham or Fox Twitter. It would only show that there are fans out there that very much want it to come back for another season, and are anxious to know.

As a fellow fan, I share your feelings.

Thanks.

[jinlian]

Is it true this yuri on ice didn't start as a romance? So was the pair skate gonna happen with them just as friends? What made it change into a romance?

afaik yep they didn’t plan it as a romance, when they initially began writing/production. kubo-sensei always wanted to write a “deep bond between a coach and athlete” but we can extrapolate from early tweets around the time that she would have been writing yoi that in the writing room, when writing the actual characters themselves that bond just went a certain romantic direction and they went with it and changed as things kept developing.

i have no idea if the ice dance was even planned from the beginning at all - the results of the GPF definitely were, but they did change the ending to adjust for yuuri and victor not wanting to live apart from each other, so who knows. either way, it turned out romantic.

as for what made it change - well, the writing process. when you write, you tend to find that characters take on a life of their own. scenes you initially planned, relationships you just laid out bare foundations, all of these shift when you start getting into the actual heads of the characters themselves, and that’s probably just what happened. so they just... let it happen. i also suspect that director sayo yamamoto, who’s known for her work on series with fairly progressive themes, had a hand in getting it to happen.

authorial intent matters in some cases, but in this one i think they just literally realized they were writing two characters falling in love and were like “cool okay let’s do it”

[timkontheunsure]

@warblogs17282 also bubblegum

Is fun chatting head cannon or theory stuff with you.

@drama-glob Perry wink

Mostly your stuff is cozy and makes me smile.

@anemicjellyfish healthy grass

Your posts make me laugh, and the comments are fun. Your great to chat with.

@oversensitiveandoffputting Bananner

Love chatting things through in posts.

@sadhornydemons trench

Your stuff is fun and makes me laugh.

@durbinfan13 claypot lol. Your asks are always fun, and give me a reason to go back through my assumptions with a fine tooth comb. But yer there's a reason I'm slow at replying lol. 🙂

You guys all just fun to interact with.

finally made my own version of this!! peace and love and friendship edition :3

challenge mode is not sending literally all of them to everyone

[snake-oiled-chief]

durbinfan13 replied to your post: So apparently Dabi wants to cry but he physically...

So is dabi sad, or was that just sarcasm from him?

he’s super sad, yes//

[hamliet]

I’ve curious about something and I’d like your opinion, we know that shigaraki accidentally killed his mom, sister, and grandparents but intentionally killed his dad, and liked it. But he was still a scared child in the end who looked for help and got none. Would he have been different if he was saved? If he enjoyed murdering his dad does that mean AFO wasn’t 100% responsible for turning him evil if he took pleasure in murder? I think he was guilty after. So could he have changed if he was saved

Hi! Thanks for the ask!

So, both in real life and in BNHA I don’t think that the world is cleanly divided into “murderers” and “other ppl.” BNHA isn’t super gray in its morality, but it does show us that Hawks is a murderer, Endeavor pretty much is too, as are the villains. There isn’t something inherently wrong with Shigaraki that AFO exploited, and even if there was, that would still be abuse. 

But I also think we can’t say oh, it’s 100% AFO’s or Endeavor’s fault. The reality is that yes, these two abused Shigaraki and Dabi respectively and without that abuse, it’s unlikely they would have turned out this way. But Dabi and Shigaraki are still making their own choices--now. So, grayness is present to a degree. 

To address Shiggy’s past... a six-year-old child cannot comprehend what taking a life actually means, and I know it’s fiction and not real life, but I don’t think we’re supposed to see Shigaraki as magically precocious in any way, least of all morality. Him taking pleasure in the split-second killing of the man who had beaten and hurt him for years is a byproduct of him having his quirk: if his quirk had been something else, if he hadn’t already accidentally killed his family, I kind of doubt he would have planned to stab his dad or whatever. But even disregarding the quirk: at a psychological level, kids are not neurologically capable of understanding what death is and what it means. They barely have an understanding of time; “forever” won’t make much sense to them. :’’’’’( 

As for whether Shiggy would have changed, I think the manga does give us an answer in chapter 22: 

If only Shiggy had a good mentor to follow :’’) I think he will get one. Eventually. 

[victuuri]

Do yuri and victor consider themselves engaged or is it still just a 'good luck charm'? That I never got. Also, is yuri moved in with victor? And do different studios have different censorship issues cuz I've seen anime with a gay romance and they show them kissing.

in my opinion they know they’re engaged. like, the show gives the rings a lot of importance and always highlights them even in passing shots lol. So i think we’re supposed to interpret them as engagement rings. Also, yeah I think Yuuri went to St. Petersburg with Victor and they’re going to train there based on the bridge he’s running on at the end. As for the censorship thing, I’m not sure about MAPPA specifically honestly. But just based on YoI in itself, it seems like they’re willing to push a lot of boundaries, so that makes me very hopeful. I’m optimistic that in the next season, we’ll get further confirmation of Yuuri and Victor’s relationship!!