#dsbb ops

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Huh, it's wild that: Does it happen to the pov character vs non-pov characters? Wildly affects what content warnings are important to me and my choice to read a fic.

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@angelcasendgame & @i-have-doubts both of you had Tags and then I had Thoughts and altogether things got a bit Long...

#i love reading your dabbnatural shit this early on a Sunday#but to your point yeah#dabb wrote quite a few deancas stuff or had approved of other writers doing it#and we just can't ignore the market research#i simply refuse to believe the finale is what dsbb wanted#and idk if there really was a completely different finale or if his version never even made it off the table#but i just can't believe he actually wanted this (@angelcasendgame)

#prev i dont think he wanted the finale either#i have a theory that the reason he killed dean was because tptb were going to force him to give dean his own blurry wife#if dean lived#like...think about it. it's REALLY common for a gay character to come out and then the other characters have to perform their straightness#something like 'cas can come out but then we've got to make sure the audience knows dean is straight'#<- is not a stretch. ive seen it before#the thing is. dean dying and getting to be in heaven (with cas) doesnt erase his queerness. if anything it subtly reinforces it#i think part of why dean was killed was to preserve who he actually is#think about how much sam's character is erased at the end there#now imagine that for dean PLUS aggressive comp het#honestly i think we got lucky#the fact that dean didnt have a comp het ending. or even say anything negative about cas. we're fuckin lucky#ive seen this shit before and im ASTONISHED that dean wasnt 'made straight' at the end there#anyway dabb's era is the most explicitly and comfortably destiel AND dabb wrote some destiel eps#hell. he wrote dean saying 'i always thought i could be a good dancer'#dabb literally wrote dean saying he wanted to settle down with someone. AND HE WROTE LAMP#all mere half a season before the finale#and to add to op's point. s15 is very cohesive and SUCH a huge part of it is about not just destiel in general#but specifically how dean feels about cas#dabb oversaw this stuff u guys. also he appointed two openly gay men as executive producers as well as prominent writers#dabb isnt the enemy. tptb are (@i-have-doubts)

askjfhab sdfkh it never even occurred to me that they would have tried to pair Dean off with a blurry wife. Then again, I also started watching post-finale so I already knew he died and didn't end up with anyone. But yeah. Since that entire finale was just in service of walker, I'm curious when they decided on the version of the ending that they did. Because I think they dropped the "roadhouse" ending fairly early. There's a months-long gap between script writing and filming and we have multiple actors saying that they were never contacted about doing cameo appearances prior to the shut down. The only episodes left to film before the shut down were 15x19 and 15x20 so if they hadn't been contacted yet then the roadhouse ending can't have made it too far, like these actors wouldn't have just gotten a call a week before. Maybe the roadhouse ending was their first response to a network edict about no destiel?

For the finale that could have been, I will take a guess and say that I think 15x10 Heroes' Journey is probably along the lines of the ending that Dabb wanted and pretty explicitly lays out Dean wanting to retire. Which is also said in other episodes Dabb wrote! PLUS! LAMP!! Also... with some tweaks... the front half of s15 tells a complete story. The spell just needs to kill Chuck instead of being a dud that he made up. There are episodes after 15x10 that I like but it basically would have been: divorce -> taking time apart -> Dean apologizing/reconciliation -> defeating Chuck -> happy ending

But yeah it just kinda drives me bananagrams to have people talk about how Dabb was a bad writer and had no clue what he was doing which is why he wrote the finale Like That but actually also he wrote the finale like that intentionally bc he hates destiel. Which! You can't have it both ways! And no matter how incompetent a (co)showrunner is, they would not allow an episode like 15x04 Atomic Monsters that trashes their finale point for point to happen unless they approved.

it's actually super interesting bc i've found posts from when dabb took over and people seemed to actually be looking forward to him as showrunner because of his s8-10 writing. which holy fuck his s10 episodes were good.

there's plenty to criticize about dabb like his treatment of asian characters/culture is uh. Not Great Yikes! but overall his writing is solid and he had a skilled if non-diverse writers' room (which is a related issue). He didn't just bring in a ton of useless hack writers and it seems like they had a lot of creative freedom so long as they stayed in particular lanes.

and okay i'm just rambling now but basically yeah. there's no way carry on was the ending he wanted and for some ppl just assume it was all him and not like. the network's own agenda and the very specific pressures exerted by networks and execs to get their creatives to comply.

maybe some of this is coherent?

Not to get on my dabbnatural shit this early on a Sunday but Dabb eps (and Dabb-Loflin to a degree) do have an internal thematic consistency. His episodes feel inconsistent bc he has the story he wants to tell and what he wants to explore but it's not always the same thing that everyone else is doing. For sure this causes issues with thematic cohesion over the course of a season but when you break his episodes apart from others'... he really is working towards something with a hell of a lot of potential. And like idk. Is it that he's too much of a hack to pull it off? But then you have episodes like Reichenbach and the diptych of All Along the Watchtower / Lost & Found and so many others. He's written some of the key destiel scenes people will pull from. There was definitely a lot of network meddling which makes me think everything got completely hamstrung by the network and market research results because s12 is on fucking fire.

So did they just let him do whatever in s12 and then as a result of the market research, clamped down on a lot of things? Is it an issue where the network didn't have confidence in him? Like, Singer was co-showrunner so idk. What does that say? He'd been writing for spn for eight years at that point, he may not have been a showrunner before that but he had experience with that show.

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The stark difference between club music on the top 40’s in 00's and now is wild

Going from: going to the club in brand name clothing and getting very drunk bcs there's nothing better to do *toxic positivity*

To: fuck you the world's on fire we have no cash let's dance

Just flipped my experience of the genre on its head.

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My conspiracy theory of the day is:

Spam bots that are trying to sucker money out of you for a cause are deliberately designed by joyless assholes to cause a chilling effect for said cause.

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Bumblebee (2018) is structurally a horsegirl movie

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Okay So Blue Beetle (2023) has a lot to say about the companies in the military industrial complex and how they profit off of exploiting the global south twice over + Gentrification. And a lot of things were changed to heighten those themes and tighten the plot into a feature length film.

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Okay the whole Suicide Squad isekai announcement has given me psychic damage

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I was going to go to bed in like 2 mins

but sudden bat in the house logistics with no viable window has me wired

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Promise to self:

the first gen or Clois crossover fic The Batman (2022) and My Adventures with Superman is getting the longest comment even if I have to vivisect every sentence.

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I don't know how much anxiety I had but Pokémon Legends Arceus murdered it. It turned all my slow tigers into fast tigers with the stealth elements and surprise alphas. Also pokédex checklist fuffiling my get stuff done need.

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okay now I'm thinking about the bnha jttw au very much

I have a migraine and it is still eating my available brain

the monkey equivalent is ABSOLUTELY a vigilante

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Saw a stupid ad that reminded me of this but I have always disliked the Typography of the Harry Potter titles and I don't know why.

I like metallics, some of my favorite superheroes have lightning bolt imagery, I like serif fonts in context. I just find it snappibly thin and busy.

I deluded myself into finding it okay for a while but yeah it just sucks imho.

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Calling it now Tri in EoW /is/ Link

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Of the many fics that I'll never write but haunt me still

The one that frustrates me the most is the Yuri on Ice one about the Yuuri going through Culture Shock re: college in Detroit and befriending an Ace Autistic ex-Hockey playing Zamboni driver who fulfills outsider pov/supportive friend roles and American friend with a car & license role

(The climax would have been oc being like I have a CDL and a decommissioned School Bus yes I'm perfectly willing to drive through a white out to pick up a bunch of strangers from the airport)

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This new firefox update suuucks

They lost my session data including previously opened windows

I don't have a visible bookmarks toolbar even though I have the option selected (it sucks going five menus deep for a properly organized bookmark when one hand cramp can cause you to start from scratch)

Speaking of, I am completely unable to make new folders to organize bookmarks

And I had to troubleshoot extentions to even access the intenet.

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I HATE HAVING SHRAPENEL CITY BY MOIST COBWEBS FOR A BASEMENT