#dr. whale

[dinneratgrannys]

We really need another doctor in this town.

[disacurveball]

I don’t know why Killian Jones is trending but the only thing that matters from that show to me is Sebastian Stan teaming up with Frankenstein and Rumpelstilsken to cause problems. And also the toxic lesbian moms

[juliet25blog]

Now, if there is something I cannot figure out since I started the show is WHO THE HELL IS DR. WHALE

Like honestly I have no clue, no idea at all and no theories. I keep telling my sister that I believe him to be the pied piper of Hamelin just because. No evidence to prove me right, neither to prove me wrong

[stardreamer28]

ok so yes I love/know everything about Victor but here's a question I do have: what kind of car did he have outside his garage lab in 6x03?? need it for a fic

[depressedstressedlemonzest]

He's dr. Doofenshmirtz.

[laschatzi]

I was today years old when I realized why in OUAT Dr. Frankenstein's name in the LWM was Dr. Whale...

[rta-user-2025]

Varian and Victor Frankenshein

[martianbugsbunny]

New Frankenstein Headcanon Unlocked!

OKay, so Victor’s got the British-y type accent in his natural habitat, which is v cool because it sounds a lot more mad scientist than an American accent. Also, it just sounds pretty. And then during the Dark Curse, Whale does sound American, and although there don’t seem to be established rules for who gets to keep an original accent during a curse (it’s not like Robin Hood gets all American when he’s in Storybrooke) it isn’t an egregious error against logic that Whale’s voice is different than Victor’s.

After the Curse is broken, I’d imagine he has, give or take a few years, roughly the same amount of time that he has had his American accent vs his original Britishy one. Also, the American sound is the one he’s been stuck with for the more recent twenty-eight years of his life, even if the Britishy sound is the one he was born and raised with and it probably a bit more deeply ingrained.

He doesn’t revert back to his original accent at any point. When we see Whale during the Dark Curse, when we see him directly after the Curse is broken, and when we see him again to deliver Snow or Zelena’s babies, he sounds pretty much the same.

If you made it this far, good for you! You actually get to see the headcanon now.

I think Victor still maintains the American sound partly because it’s more recent and partly because it fits in better with most of Storybrooke’s residents, who are from a different world than he is and who generally sound more American than anything else. (Snow, David, Regina, Granny, Archie, Grumpy, etc., all have a similar sound.) BUT I also think when he’s doing his mad scientist stuff in his garage, that’s when he reverts to his original accent. It isn’t stress or anger that brings it on for him, it’s being excited about science. Because that’s when he’s the most like the person he was when that accent was the only way he spoke. (Also, a mad scientist going on about his new discovery to some starry-eyed listener is maybe a bit extra cute when he just happens to have a Britishy accent.)

[morosoro]

Uhh… which one?

Stolen from twitter bc I need to see everyone's answers

[atomic-chronoscaph]

The Invisible Man (1933)

[sevenfifteenam]

OUAT + Texts From Last Night [part 2]

[gifs-of-puppets]

Muppets Tonight (1996-1998)

[stardreamer28]

as if everyone didn't know, I ADORE Victor! well his version. hahaha he's a bit of a flirt with everyone but really just has eyes for Ruby. at least to us. there's frankenwolf hints all over the place! but for Victor specifically I love so many things about his story & the way David played this handsome blonde british scientist <3 (and his brother), there's so many layers to his story. and this particular scene made me laugh 'cause his sarcasm was perfect - and Sean trying soo hard not to crack up at them all. plus cmon, cute men holding babies! ask @monsterstaybroken & @martianbugsbunny I could go on for days about how much I love Victor & the world we've continued for him lol

so i finished my little binge watch and the things i do to myself just to ogle pretty men, i swear sometimes the brain-rot takes me places i wouldn't even go with a gun

absolutely normal about this fella

so incredibly very normal

bonus for me specifically

[joe-spookyy]

something i find intriguing about re-animator (1985) and its sequel bride of re-animator (1990) is how truly similar they are to frankenstein (1931) and bride of frankenstein (1934), SPECIFICALLY in regards to their queercoding. the original re-animator stories were of course, according to lovecraft, written as a parody to mary shelley’s frankenstein. however in the cases of both films and their sequels, they differ significantly from the original source material. interestingly, though, it seems they have a lot in common with each other. sound interesting? read on.

obviously, there are base level similarities in the original frankenstein movie and original re-animator movie. both feature a classic mad scientist figure with the goal to conquer death. and both films end with the supposed death of their mad scientists, along with their creations. but where the real similarities, as well as the heavier queercoding comes in, is with bride of frankenstein, and of course, bride of re-animator.

so, to draw the comparisons and explain the queercoding, we first have to establish the characters, and who they tie to in the other film. first, we look at the classic queercoded mad scientist. in the first movie, herbert west is mirrored by henry frankenstein. however, in bride of frankenstein, the character that more lines up with his character archetype and plot line is dr. septimus praetorius. for those unfamiliar with the character, dr praetorius seeks out henry frankenstein, a former student of his, hoping for his assistance in creating life. although the relationship between dan cain and herbert west is not that of a teacher/student arrangement, we still see herbert seeking out dan’s help in building the bride. and of course, both west and praetorius are often read as queer. with west as praetorius, dan cain falls in as henry frankenstein. both are reluctant to return to the whole re-animating dead bodies business, clinging onto the life of “normalcy” they think they can have, and pushing back against the other man who is trying to draw them back in. dan and henry are both less often read as queer, but if you step back, it’s very easy to see.

now, we can look at the plot and how it influences a queer reading of the characters. aside from the similarities in name, there’s a lot in common in the two movies. early in the bride of frankenstein, praetorius tries to draw henry in with some of his own miniature creations - several small homunculi. this actually sort of mirrors the scene we all know and love from bride of reanimator, where herbert brings the finger/eyeball puppy to life. there’s a little more queercoding in the scene from re-animator. herbert reads almost like a proud father, showing the critter to dan, and it’s then followed by dan telling herbert that he’s “moving out”, coming across as almost a breakup/i’m leaving you moment, which is met with extreme dismay.

of course, in both cases, these small demonstrations aren’t quite enough to sway henry and dan to the cause. praetorius starts by promising henry his original creation, the creature, as long as henry helps him craft a bride, but ends up having to step things up and uses henry’s fiancée, elizabeth, as bait to convince him. sound a bit familiar? in bride of re-animator, herbert convinces dan to join in again on the reanimation with promises that he can return his dead fiancée meg to him. again, this scene plays out significantly more homoerotically, with herbert producing meg’s heart and offering it to dan. yeah. herbert offered dan his heart. and it works. dan’s sold. now, you’re probably thinking, what’s so homoerotic about joining forces with a man just to get your girl back? well. listen. it’s more, in this case on the part of herbert and praetorius. there’s something very homoerotic in using love to entice a man into creating life with you. and yes, technically it is heterosexuality being taken advantage of here. but there’s still a bit of seduction that’s happening. if herbert and praetorius can’t draw the others in the way they’d like to, they know they can take advantage of the emotions on dan and henry’s end.

additionally, we know west and praetorius are queercoded from more than just this specific scenario. it comes through simply in the way the actors portray them, their lines, and their actions. praetorius was intended that way, despite the movie being produced in an era where the hays code was enforced. actor ernest theisger was allegedly told by director james whale, an out gay man, to play the character as an “over the top caricature of a bitchy and aging homosexual.” which. is kind of hilarious. and herbert west is. well. where do i even begin. actor jeffrey combs chose to play him in a Way, and there are nods to herbert’s lack of interest in women throughout both films (to me beyond reanimator does not exist), most overtly shown when one of his coworkers asks herbert if a recently female deceased patient was attractive, and is met with the single most effective “are you fucking stupid” stare i have ever seen. this, in my opinion is clearer than if he would have just declared then and there that he was a homosexual. but i digress. he also shows nothing but disdain and frankly, a little jealousy, towards dan’s girlfriends, slinking away to sulk in the basement and reanimate some random limbs, or, in the first movie, pushing meg out of the frame and physically coming between her and dan in the shot, symbolic of how he promptly pushes her out of dan’s life entirely.

but what about dan and henry? as far as we’ve discussed, they don’t seem to be reciprocating any of herbert or praetorius’s advances. BUT when it comes time to create the titular brides, both dan and henry seem to finally give in to the temptations. of course, there’s the inherent homoeroticism of creating life with another man. and of course, dan choosing to stick with herbert despite what he’s been put through doesn’t make a lot of sense if you don’t consider there might be more than friendship involved there. but what really matters is how they both lean into it towards the end of their respective films, throwing away their chance at a “normal” heterosexual life with elizabeth (in henry’s case) or francesca (in dan’s) to stick with their own queercoded little mad scientists and continue the work. the moment where each of them finally gives in is clear. henry’s comes when the first heart they attempt to put in the bride is not worthy, and he makes an Active choice and asks for another heart. dan’s is in the final seconds before re-animating their bride, when he makes an Active choice, taking the syringe from herbert and asking that he himself be the one to start the process. both men finally go from passively following their counterparts, in dan’s case rather like a dog to its master, to finally making that active choice and turning to the other side. and the other side, represented by west and praetorius and blasphemy and evil science, can also be a symbol of that queerness. they really step into and embrace creating life with that other man, despite the perfectly fine and normal life that they Could have with their fiancées. it can sort of be read as an allegory for homosexuality alongside bisexuality - praetorius and herbert both only have the scientific way of creating life, and no chance at societal “normalcy”, if we read them both as gay. and they bring henry and dan into their queerness, who can be read as bisexual: they have the opportunity to pursue a societally “normal” life. but they also have the opportunity to do the very opposite.

and finally, in true bury your gays fashion, dan and francesca, as well as henry and elizabeth, escape unharmed, while herbert and praetorius along with their creations, are left to die as the building collapses. the creature leaves us with the haunting line “we belong dead”, referring to himself, his bride, AND praetorius. they’re all, in their own ways, a part of a world they don’t belong to. and the same goes for herbert and his creations. in both movies, heterosexuality triumphs, since that’s what we’re supposed to see as “good” and “normal”, fitting in with our good and normal protagonists who both make the last minute choice to save their girls and escape, abandoning the other men to die. despite being queercoded, the idea of being queer cannot be endorsed by the narrative, and so the story must end this way. even in 1975’s incredibly queer film The Rocky Horror Picture Show, which is another frankenstein esque story, the queer creator frank n furter and his creation rocky both die, while janet and brad, a “straight” couple, manage to survive. it’s an interesting take on the idea of being doomed by the narrative that seems to appear in a lot of frankenstein adaptations.

anyways. sorry for yapping so hard but bride of frankenstein and bride of reanimator are so similar to each other that they end up queercoded in very similar ways and follow the same pattern as many frankenstein adaptations. yeah.

[stardreamer28]

one of my favorite adorable pictures of him <3. obviously from 2x02

[depressedstressedlemonzest]

Beat his ass david!

Mark me down for being scared AND horny

😂😂