#download tiktok china

[headspace-hotel]

Y'all

Im not on tiktok and never have been, but I downloaded RedNote just to see what is up, and I am witnessing something truly amazing

The Chinese user community is giving the American tiktok refugees an overwhelmingly warm welcome, meanwhile the American users seem to have collectively agreed that not only will they not let the app be taken over with English and they will provide Mandarin subtitles for everything, they are LEARNING MANDARIN. Ive scrolled through so many videos of Americans offering greetings in Mandarin to try to acclimate to the new environment and be respectful, and speakers of both languages are posting lots of tutorials on language basics and internet slang in Mandarin

My God, there is an AMAZING outpouring of curiosity and delight among everyone to learn about each others cultures and daily lives. People are posting videos of landscapes, cities, towns, and natural areas in USA and China, posting recipes and traditional foods, vlogs of everyday life, and reaching out to find people with similar hobbies.

And it's not just young people! There are loads of videos from middle-aged American guys who have come to post about fishing or motorcycles and are now happily chatting with Chinese users sharing the same interests using Google translate

One American guy who was like. in his 60's had a comment on one of his videos that was like "Red Neck?" and he replied "Yes!" and I just about fucking lost it

Also the Chinese users love, and I mean LOVE, Luigi Mangione. He is apparently broadly adored in China. There is SO much fanart and SO many edits.

There are many threads initiating Chinese users to ask questions of American users about the USA, and vice versa, and everyone on both sides is clearing up a lot of misconceptions. Some of the questions I saw a lot from Chinese users were: "Is it true that American parents kick you out of the house as soon as you turn 18" (not often, but sometimes) "Do you all really wear shoes in bed" (NO!!! Apparently a lot of characters in American sitcoms are shown lying in bed with shoes on which I never noticed before!) and "are there really guns everywhere" (yes).

For the most part Chinese content creators seem just overwhelmed by the sudden influx of hundreds of followers that are super enthusiastic about what they're doing. A lot of them have made posts about how initially they thought the uptick in follower count was some kind of error, or that there was some kind of joke or prank, but then they realized the interest and enthusiasm was genuine and now they're welcoming all the newcomers.

I found several posts by Chinese users saying that this felt like a really profound historical moment, where these previously separated worlds are suddenly smashing together and suddenly there is freedom to learn about each other's cultures and connect. One of them said something along the lines of "This is a 21st century Tower of Babel and even though I'm an atheist I hope God lets this tower stand." OUGH MY HEART.

The app itself works a little bit like a video-based version of Pinterest. It's not really my thing so I probably won't be on there long term but it's been amazing to see what's happening.

[riastarthe]

yeah let me fire off a screed about china right as i get a cheque for $0.79 from a class action lawsuit in which some arm of some health insurance company i've never even heard of and didn't know i was involved with was breached and everyone's names emails addresses phone numbers were leaked, but i stay chill because every address i've ever had is already on peekthisbitch or whatever

[swordsandholly]

Comfort Creator

Ghost who downloads tiktok only because Soap and Gaz made him so they could send him memes. He hates the app. Thinks everyone on it is just talking way too much about nothing. Finds the consumerism and attention seeking to be beyond annoying.

Ghost who still finds himself scrolling when he needs a mental break from paperwork.

Eventually, he realizes he keeps getting fed this one creator’s videos. It’s the tea reviews that reel him in. They’re nothing special, just them sitting in front of the camera sipping on some artesian tea while chatting about their day and the flavors.

Before long, though, he’s watching all their content. From random rambles to outfit videos to movie talks. They just have a very soothing voice is all. Nothing to do with their pretty face or obviously too-kind disposition. A sweet little thing; so unlike him.

He officially follows three people now.

The thing about Ghost is, he doesn’t sleep. Well, he does, but it’s either like the dead when he’s exhausted himself beyond what his body can handle or fraught with nightmares. He isn’t sure what compels him to do it the first time, but Ghost puts on his their tea review playlist; just lets it play through while he lays in bed. He’s never slept so well. Somehow their voice just makes everything else quiet - like it flips a switch in some primal part of his brain.

At some point he comes across the term “comfort creator” and realizes that’s exactly what he’s got.

A few months pass and Ghost finds himself on medical leave with absolutely nothing to do and all the time in the world. He decides to try some of tea his favorite little creator has reviewed - even some of the bad ones, just to see if he agrees. Maybe he’ll find a new favorite to keep on base.

He makes his way to a local high-end tea shop. All loose leaf and custom blends from various brands and places around the world. He’s far too aware of how out of place he looks - a hulking man in all black and an arm cast in this frilly little shop. A real bull in a china shop.

Ghost’s back goes ram rod straight when an all too familiar voice tries to get his attention. He turns comically slowly, heart pounding in his ears. There they are, tapping his arm and asking if he’ll be so kind as to get that strawberry rose blend down from the top shelf that’s just out of reach. He does, of course, spluttering through an awkward “you’re welcome” and kicking himself when they scamper away to the register before he can introduce himself.

But now he knows they’re close, a shop they must frequent, and has plenty of time on leave. All he has to do is find the right opportunity to make proper conversation. How hard could that be?

[roomba-with-knives-taped-to-it]

I would like everyone here to know that in response to the government banning TikTok under the excuse “they might be selling data to china” TikTok users are mass downloading the Chinese TikTok equivalent app Red Note (otherwise known as Red Book or Little Red Book) named after the famous piece of communist propaganda written by Mao Zedong and willingly giving their data. It’s also lead to a lot of cross cultural communication and there are already hundreds of people trading English lessons for mandarin lessons

[gachagon]

Going back and forth between Rednote and Tiktok is so funny because on Rednote it's legit nothing but good vibes and people posting their daily lives, and then on Tiktok there's people acting as if downloading Rednote will summon Ji Xinping himself in their room.

"G-guys if I post on there about insert topic d-do you think the post will be....taken down? I heard there's...censorship on that scary new, chinese app so I just want to know before I go over there :(("

I've started to just tell people to go and see for themselves instead of wasting time asking random foreigners about the app lol. Chinese people are human and are not going to kill you because you posted about being gay or trans or being a furry T_T

Is this to say that there are no bigots in China? Obviously not, but it's a fucking country of millions and millions of people who all have differing ideas and opinions...just like the USA.

I don't understand how some people on tiktok who claim to not be racist or xenophobic can say all of this shit about a chinese majority app with no introspection whatsoever.

"B-but you can't post about insert topic on Rednote! That's bad because it's censorship!!" oh you mean like how American websites have become heavily censored in the last year or so? How people on tiktok can't even say the word "Rape" or "Pedophile" without having their video taken down regardless of the context of said video? All of the things you "can't" do on American social media, you can't do on Rednote T_T I don't know why people are going over to an app and trying to talk about things they already know they'd be suppressed over here for talking about lol.

Also some of those tiktok videos saying "Rednote censors these topics!" are misinformed because a lot of Rednote users have said that they can talk about those topics, it's just that there are ways to do it and dedicated hashtags for it etc and a lot of my fellow Americans are ignorant about all of these new things.

[rednecknerdguy]

No, but you don’t understand: everyone downloading 小航书 as a protest against Meta/Zucc the Cuck is an objectively funny move. Not only are you express-mailing your data to China, even though it would have ended up there anyways, and have to deal with more restrictive TOS rules, but you also have to learn a whole new language. On the flip side, it’s more brain rotten than even TikTok was, and it’s funnier.

Like, how bad do you have to fumble the bag that was the TikTok ban to literal Chinese social media? You’d have to be incredible levels of stupid to do that.

Anywho, here’s some of the best shit I’ve seen come from 小航书:

[mariacallous]

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Friday unanimously upheld the federal law banning TikTok beginning Sunday unless it’s sold by its China-based parent company, holding that the risk to national security posed by its ties to China overcomes concerns about limiting speech by the app or its 170 million users in the United States.

A sale does not appear imminent and, although experts have said the app will not disappear from existing users’ phones once the law takes effect on Jan. 19, new users won’t be able to download it and updates won’t be available. That will eventually render the app unworkable, the Justice Department has said in court filings.

The decision came against the backdrop of unusual political agitation by President-elect Donald Trump, who vowed that he could negotiate a solution and the administration of President Joe Biden, which has signaled it won’t enforce the law beginning Sunday, his final full day in office.

Trump, mindful of TikTok’s popularity, and his own 14.7 million followers on the app, finds himself on the opposite side of the argument from prominent Senate Republicans who fault TikTok’s Chinese owner for not finding a buyer before now. Trump said in a Truth Social post shortly before the decision was issued that TikTok was among the topics in his conversation Friday with Chinese leader Xi Jinping.

It’s unclear what options are open to Trump once he is sworn in as president on Monday. The law allowed for a 90-day pause in the restrictions on the app if there had been progress toward a sale before it took effect. Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar, who defended the law at the Supreme Court for the Democratic Biden administration, told the justices last week that it’s uncertain whether the prospect of a sale once the law is in effect could trigger a 90-day respite for TikTok.

“Congress has determined that divestiture is necessary to address its well-supported national security concerns regarding TikTok’s data collection practices and relationship with a foreign adversary,” the court said in an unsigned opinion, adding that the law “does not violate petitioners’ First Amendment rights.”

Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Neil Gorsuch filed short separate opinions noting some reservations about the court’s decision but going along with the outcome.

“Without doubt, the remedy Congress and the President chose here is dramatic,” Gorsuch wrote. Still, he said he was persuaded by the argument that China could get access to “vast troves of personal information about tens of millions of Americans.”

Some digital rights groups slammed the court’s ruling shortly after it was released.

“Today’s unprecedented decision upholding the TikTok ban harms the free expression of hundreds of millions of TikTok users in this country and around the world,” said Kate Ruane, a director at the Washington-based Center for Democracy & Technology, which has supported TikTok’s challenge to the federal law.

Content creators who opposed the law also worried about the effect on their business if TikTok shuts down. “I’m very, very concerned about what’s going to happen over the next couple weeks,” said Desiree Hill, owner of Crown’s Corner mechanic shop in Conyers, Georgia. “And very scared about the decrease that I’m going to have in reaching customers and worried I’m going to potentially lose my business in the next six months.”

At arguments, the justices were told by a lawyer for TikTok and ByteDance Ltd., the Chinese technology company that is its parent, how difficult it would be to consummate a deal, especially since Chinese law restricts the sale of the proprietary algorithm that has made the social media platform wildly successful.

The app allows users to watch hundreds of videos in about half an hour because some are only a few seconds long, according to a lawsuit filed last year by Kentucky complaining that TikTok is designed to be addictive and harms kids’ mental health. Similar suits were filed by more than a dozen states. TikTok has called the claims inaccurate.

The dispute over TikTok’s ties to China has come to embody the geopolitical competition between Washington and Beijing.

“ByteDance and its Chinese Communist masters had nine months to sell TikTok before the Sunday deadline,” Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., wrote on X. “The very fact that Communist China refuses to permit its sale reveals exactly what TikTok is: a communist spy app. The Supreme Court correctly rejected TikTok’s lies and propaganda masquerading as legal arguments.”

The U.S. has said it’s concerned about TikTok collecting vast swaths of user data, including sensitive information on viewing habits, that could fall into the hands of the Chinese government through coercion. Officials have also warned the algorithm that fuels what users see on the app is vulnerable to manipulation by Chinese authorities, who can use it to shape content on the platform in a way that’s difficult to detect.

TikTok points out the U.S. has not presented evidence that China has attempted to manipulate content on its U.S. platform or gather American user data through TikTok.

Bipartisan majorities in Congress passed legislation and Biden signed it into law in April. The law was the culmination of a yearslong saga in Washington over TikTok, which the government sees as a national security threat.

TikTok, which sued the government last year over the law, has long denied it could be used as a tool of Beijing. A three-judge panel made up of two Republican appointees and a Democratic appointee unanimously upheld the law in December, prompting TikTok’s quick appeal to the Supreme Court.

Without a sale to an approved buyer, the law bars app stores operated by Apple, Google and others from offering TikTok beginning on Sunday. Internet hosting services also will be prohibited from hosting TikTok.

ByteDance has said it won’t sell. But some investors have been eyeing it, including Trump’s former Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and billionaire businessman Frank McCourt. McCourt’s Project Liberty initiative has said it and its unnamed partners have presented a proposal to ByteDance to acquire TikTok’s U.S. assets. The consortium, which includes “Shark Tank” host Kevin O’Leary, did not disclose the financial terms of the offer.

McCourt, in a statement following the ruling, said his group was “ready to work with the company and President Trump to complete a deal.”

Prelogar told the justices last week that having the law take effect “might be just the jolt” ByteDance needs to reconsider its position.

[argentavis]

if youre not on tiktok you are missing tiktok getting banned for fear of china and as protest tiktok users are just downloading chinese tiktok

[greater-than-the-sword]

One one hand, there are like 6 or 7 reasons why it's problematic that TikTok users are jumping ship to RedNote. On the other hand, the massive Christmas Truce energy is pretty funny.

If every user realized that they were downloading a heavily censored app with a loaded and charged political environment where everything was curated to make it look like China is a great place and most of the people there are heavily propagandized against the United States and the users are in danger of arrest if they say the wrong thing; it would be actually kind of based to break the Great Firewall by going to them en masse.

[allthegeopolitics]

As a TikTok ban looms in the United States, young Americans are flocking to the Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu as “TikTok refugees” in search of a similar experience. The app has risen to the top spot on the iOS and Google Play stores in the US in recent days as users prepare for TikTok to be banned on national security grounds from Sunday unless Chinese parent company ByteDance divests its ownership. Chinese lifestyle app Lemon8, which is also owned by ByteDance, has ranked as the second most downloaded app. Xiaohongshu, which has been described as China’s answer to Instagram, allows users to post photos, videos and text and is known for its female-heavy user base.

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[noritaro]

the way several Americans (specifically tiktok users) are treating Xiaohongshu/Rednote (Chinese Pinterest/TikTok essentially) is fucking weird

the self reporting of their Sinophobia "wow I thought Chinese people were the worst" you actually fell for the governments stupid propaganda to hate on an entire group of people?

going "Yay China" despite continuing to make Sinophobic jokes like this?

the fact people had to DOWNLOAD A WHOLE ASS APP only because TikTok is getting banned, to even realize they fell for the most blatant propaganda I've ever fucking seen in modern times

not to mention the average entitled ass American yelling at Chinese people to speak English... in a Chinese app? you're in a Chinese space??

[wormg0rl]

"Screw freedom of speech, I wanna move to China!"

When it first began trending for Americans to switch to rednote, I downloaded the app and made a few videos describing my experience and the concerns I had.

I thought it was a poor replacement of tiktok, especially if "freedom of speech" was the goal due to how heavily censored it was.

I began to wonder- huh, what happens if this does become the "new" app for people. What happens if people do end up replacing tiktok with this app? How will the censorship affect us?

And of course, they tore me apart for even daring to try to have that conversation, saying "you don't understand!! We're protesting!! We're doing something BIG"

Which sure, I understand the whole "Wanna give an F U to meta" thing, but the people who downloaded it for what they think is an "anti government" aspect is honestly so ironic it's making me CACKLE, because babes you just switched to consuming a different countries propaganda.

And I was told to "shut up, the vibes are great" even though to me the vibes seem like everyone's on a valium..

When you see a country trying to promote itself as everyone being oddly "happy", you should get stepford wives vibes, not "I wanna live there vibes"

I almost peed myself laughing last night because the SAME people who are crying out, "gotta look out for the propaganda on tiktok now!!" are the SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING:

"they're just so happy over there in China 😀 I don't know WHAT it could be, they don't have even ONE BAD THING TO SAY ABOUT THEIR GOVERNMENT"

*face palm* Are you fucking for real?

My brother.. they are not ALLOWED to say anything bad 😭 it's not some mystic secret that America doesn't have.

"there's no homelessness over there" yeah cus you'll get arrested. And also? Yes there is. Which tiktok told you that they didnt? Because you were misinformed.

We want MORE freedoms, not less. Saying you'd sacrifice your freedom of speech even as a JOKE just diminishes EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR.

And then it happened, I started seeing comments such as these:

"screw freedom of speech, i wanna move to China!"

Which sure, I know they're probably kidding, but a lot of people aren't.

I understand being broken down by our system, and I understand wanting to feel comfort and security, but in times like these we cannot even joke about being willing to sacrifice our personal freedoms.

Not when freedom of speech is already so at risk.

So this tiktok ban situation has truly changed how I view so many of you and society as a whole.

"Freedom of speech!!" was your rally cry for the last week, but now you'll jump down someone's throat and throw them to the dogs if they even try to have a conversation with you about the censorship on there and the affects it will have.

We don't exist in a vacuum. Downloading the app for an F U to meta but continuing to consume the content will have an affect. Why? Because everything affects everything. I thought we already knew that. You cannot do an action without there being a response that comes from it.

I wasn't even trying to say it was all negative affects- I'm sure there are positive side affects to this as well, but I specifically wanted to start a conversation about how censorship can have serious affects on society, trends, music, fashion, information exchange, etc and EVERY TIME i was shot down, insulted, or told "i like the censorship"

So much for "freedom of speech" huh, lol

I have begun to ask the question: "Will this app make us more complacent than we already are?" And I think I have my answer. I have seen countless people say "I like the fact it's moderated, I can just watch my knitting videos!"

They actually got their panties in a twist over me simply trying to bring up the fact it compresses your videos and affects video quality, all because they have associated rednote with being anti govt, protesting, etc.

"IF TIKTOK GETS BOUGHT BY META WE WONT BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT"

But when I say "If rednote becomes the new standard app I'm concerned about how the censorship will affect our information trends and flow" I get called a fed (because apparently anyone who doesn't like rednote is a fed now.. lol ironic, right?)

It was interesting to watch just how happily you all gave up, and I think the people who want to take our rights away will find it even more interesting that I do!

Everyone we've been fighting against? Oh honey they're gonna loveeee the fact that SO MANY of you are willing to sacrifice personal freedoms for what you think is "comfort"

So yes, I'm judging you.

[thequeenofsastiel]

Something kind of interesting about the reactions Americans who downloaded Rednote are having to learning that Chinese people are actually, like, people, is that it reminds me of my reaction to Thai BLs when I started watching five years ago.

Before then, literally my only understanding about Thailand involved news stories about underage girls being human trafficked there and taken advantage of by shitty American men, and a single watching of The Hangover Part II, which, from my hazy memory, depicted Bangkok as half beautiful beach, half city steeped in poverty that bore hardly any resemblance to the cities I've been to in America.

Then I watched 2gether.

It absolutely blew my mind how similar our cultures are. Obviously there are some big differences, but our cultures are so much closer than I ever dreamed. Frankly I never really gave Asia much thought, past the fact that I thought it was super fucked up that we exploit Asian workers for our cheap goods. In my public high school we were taught virtually nothing about Asia past the atrocities of the Vietnam War. Watching Asian BL shows has educated me so much. I can now read in Thai, something I never would have dreamed of even wanting to do six years ago.

All this to say, it's very strange watching vast swaths of Americans discover things about China just as I, in a different way, discovered things about Thailand(as well as Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, and also China, but to a lesser extent).

I question the motives of the US government in banning TikTok, but I've gotta say, I really appreciate the way it's opening the eyes of many Americans.

[l0vescented]

hi!! are you:

bothered by the tikok ban?

unsure of what to do now that you can't doomscroll?

or just, yk, bored, and willing to piss off the american government?

really? then i have a solution!

DOWNLOAD REDNOTE!!!

(also known as "Little Red Book", Xiaohongshu, or 小红书 !!

now, if u haven't noticed, this is a chinese app! it's owned by chinese people, for chinese people! that means, naturally, that we as americans should follow a certain set of rules!!

if you are making a video or making any form of content that is consumed by those on this app, EITHER ADD SUBTITLES IN MANDARIN OR LEARN THE LANGUAGE SO U CAN SPEAK IT URSELF!!! the same way they must adjust to us being on their app, we must adjust to them!

KEEP IT CUTE. none of that weird racist shit y'all got away with on tiktok, we are GUESTS.

do not act a fool on these chinese people's for you pages..i'm not entirely sure if this is completely true because i'm not chinese, but i did see a woman on rednote saying that in china, they expect a little more modesty from you on these apps, so just to be safe, i suggest u keep that in mind.

that's all the rules i can think of for now, but please be mindful of them, among many other rules that you can look up on the app!

have fun on rednote, and shoutout to the communist party! <333

[daisiesonafield-blog]

By  HALELUYA HADERO

January 19, 2025

tldr: tiktok is back in the US as Trump promised to grant them a 90 day extension to find a US buyer in hopes that ByteDance, Tiktok's parent company, will sell 50% ownership to an American company.

TikTok said Sunday it was restoring service to users in the United States after the popular video-sharing platform went dark in response to a federal ban that President-elect Donald Trump said he would try to pause by executive order on his first day in office.

Trump said he planned to issue the order to give TikTok’s China-based parent company more time to find an approved buyer before the popular video-sharing platform is subject to a permanent U.S.ban. He announced the move on his Truth Social account as millions of U.S. TikTok users awoke to discover they could no longer access the TikTok app or platform.

Google and Apple removed the app from their digital stores to comply with the law, which required them to do so if TikTok parent company ByteDance didn’t sell its U.S. operation by Sunday. The law, which passed with wide bipartisan support in April, allowed for steep fines for non-compliance.

The company that runs TikTok said in a post on X that Trump’s post had provided “the necessary clarity and assurance to our service providers that they will face no penalties providing TikTok to over 170 million Americans.”

Some users reported soon after TikTok’s statement that the app was working again, and TikTok’s website appeared to be functioning for at least some users. Even as TikTok was flickering back on, it remained unavailable for download in Apple and Google’s app stores.

The law that took effect Sunday required ByteDance to cut ties with the platform’s U.S. operations due to national security concerns posed by the app’s Chinese roots. However, the statute gave the sitting president authority to grant a 90-day extension if a viable sale is underway.

Although investors made a few offers, ByteDance previously said it would not sell. In his post on Sunday, Trump said he “would like the United States to have a 50% ownership position in a joint venture,” but it was not immediately clear if he was referring to the government or an American company.

Trump said his order would “extend the period of time before the law’s prohibitions take effect” and “confirm that there will be no liability for any company that helped keep TikTok from going dark before my order.

Excerpt from AP News.

Full article from AP News here.

[satanslisp]

Hello again old friend. I have some news about the state of the world.

I haven't been on tumblr in so long because it wasn't the same after it got bought out.

During the summer of 2020 I was in a really dark place doom scrolling, bearing witness to the ugliness of the world for hours on end. At that point I got off of all social media apps I had and downloaded tiktok. I was jaded about it at first because I had the same perspective as a lot of people who weren't on it; that it was a bunch of dancing teens. But over the last 4 years I found solace and education in that app. Tiktok was the first place since tumblr where I truly felt in community with others globally.

Now for the discussion on our further descent into fascism.

I am a Canadian resident with a Canadian number and sim card and I am also locked out of the app. Tiktok has been banned in the US, but that has somehow spread to many Canadians and Mexicans alike. Some of us aren't affected and others are. I'm not sure what the reason behind this is, but I think it is critical that we stay alert and cognizant of what exactly is happening.

A fascist regime is coming back to power. All they want is power and control. Tr*mp's first term allowed him to put people on the Supreme Court that would support his and his power hungry friends' agendas. Rights are being stripped away, and they have targeted an app that was critical in keeping people all over the world informed when our own news outlets were clearly biased and cherry picking what is "news".

The wording here is so critical. The man who initiated the tiktok ban conversation is now going to be the one who "saves it". The propaganda could not be more obvious. I think the majority of the people who were on tiktok are aware of most of this. But for those who weren't on the platform, that is what is happening. It's not about "China having our data" because every billionaire with a tech platform is selling our data.

This is about censorship. This is about control. This is about the rise of a fascist regime that will impact the world at large.