#dorotheus of sidon

[northopalshore]

Dorotheus Of Sidon:

Predicting the number of children you'll have

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This post is based on a DM I got recently, I didn't have time to explain to them as clearly as possible so I thought it would be interesting to touch on a Dorotheus of Sidon method; derived from writings in Carmen Astrologicum specifically to predict the number of children you'll have. Masterlist

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This is a brief post explaining how the method is used to predict the number of children one will have.

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♀Step 1:

•So to begin, look at the sign your Jupiter is in. Then look for their triplicity lords ; It’s an old concept, similar but less "impactful" compared to domicile, exaltation, exile and fall.

•This is a Hellenistic/medieval astrology method, so it's done using WHOLE SIGNS. Other than that Pluto, Chiron, Neptune & Uranus will not be taken into account for the calculations.

♀Step 2:

•Determine the triplicity lords (rulers) of said sign & it's order according to your chart (day vs night) .

For example, if your Jupiter is Aries and Sun is in the 7th-12th house (day chart) Your triplicity rulers are Sun-Jupiter-Saturn while if your sun is in the 1st-6th house (night chart) it's Jupiter-Saturn-Sun.

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Here is a reference chart you can use; from Anthony Louis (Astrology & Tarot blog).

Fertile signs & sterile (non-fertile) signs (top)

Fairly fertile signs & fairly sterile signs (bottom)

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♀ Rules:

According to Dorotheus, fire signs & earth signs are "sterile", water signs are considered fertile & air signs are.. somewhere in the middle. HOWEVER , please stick to the chart above on this matter for the sake of calculation.

If Mars or Saturn is present in any of the signs from the AC to the triplicity lord, that will signify a loss or miscarriage.

If Jupiter or Venus is present then the chance of having children is doubled. The same can be said if the sign is double bodied (Pisces, Sagittarius, Virgo,Gemini). Could also mean twins.

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♀Step 3:

•To determine where you start applying this concept, look at where your triplicity lords & determine which one is stronger (day vs night).

•For example, with an Aries Jupiter in a day chart Sun is more dominant than Jupiter. From there, count the number of signs from the ascendant to the dominant triplicity lord.

♀Step 4:

•Determine whether those signs are in good placement or not (refer to the sterile vs fertile chart given).

♀Timing:

The timing of this method is rather vague, but it does give an estimate. If the triplicity lords are in the ascendant or midheaven, (assuming they are fertile & benefic) then the native will have a child in their youth which is like 20s to early 30 (personally, I believe if Part of Fortune is present it will also indicate this).

On the other hand, if these lords come after the 1st house towards the 7th or even 8th house then they're likely to have a child in their middle ages (during/after late 30s).

William Lilly also has a method of predicting timing (mostly answering the question whether the individual will get pregnant/a child that year or now). Though, I'm not really going to touch on the "timing" topic in this post.

♀Examples:

Michael Jackson

Michael Jackson has 3 children (that we know of). His Jupiter is Libra & he has a night chart. His triplicity lords are Mercury -Jupiter-Saturn. Mercury is stronger than Saturn so we'll count from the AC to his mercury ( following the zodiacal order) so there are 5 signs ; Aquarius, Capricorn, Sagittarius, Scorpio & Libra.

However, Capricorn is sterile & Saturn is in Sagittarius. So that leaves Scorpio, Aquarius & Libra. Three children.

Still don't understand? See simplified version here.

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Beyoncé

Beyoncé has Jupiter in Libra, and she has a day chart so her triplicity lords are Saturn- Mercury- Jupiter. Saturn is stronger than Mercury here. So we'll be counting from the ascendant to her Saturn.

There's just 1 sign; Libra because it's in the same house. However, she has Saturn, Jupiter & Venus here. Jupiter and venus are benefic planets which indicate double children or twins. (2 for each sign) however, since saturn is here one may not manifest. She lost her first child to a miscarriage (saturn influence). So, there are 3 left. She has one daughter and two twins.

Note: usually if the triplicity lord is in the ascendant, there will be no children/one child depending on the sign (especially if saturn is present) however, that also depends on the other planets occupying this house as well as the sign it's in.

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Northopalshore (gaia)

Predicting my children; My Jupiter is also in Libra. I have a day chart. My Jupiter triplicity lords are Saturn-Mercury-Jupiter.

Saturn is stronger than Mercury, so I'll be counting from my ASC to Saturn. There are 7 signs; Aquarius, Capricorn, Sagittarius, Scorpio, Libra, Virgo & Leo.

Capricorn, Virgo & Leo are sterile. Mars is in Scorpio. So there's Sagittarius (w venus), Aquarius, & Libra. So I'll likely have 3-4 children. With a possible miscarriage because of mars. Also since I have Saturn in my 5th house ʕ⁠´⁠•⁠ ⁠ᴥ⁠•̥⁠`⁠ʔ.

(I thought I'd have like 1-2 but I guess that's what you get for being nasty.)

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***disclaimer: educational purposes only, reader discretion is advised***

Thanks for reading ˚ʚ♡ɞ˚

@northopalshore

@northopalshore children in astrology 2024.

[phoebosacerales]

Are there any other astrology books besides the ones you mention in your master list that you would recommend to read?

Oh, I should make a list, thank you for asking. I'll first give you these few ones that I use the most, but I'll try to update it regularly, I have many more recommendations than this. If anyone thinks it's hard to find a good version of any of these you can talk to me through chat and I can send you a link ;)

Beginner's books:

On the heavenly spheres/Tratado das Esferas by Helena Avelar and Luis Ribeiro is the ultimate beginner book, that's used as main bibliography in my school, Saturnália. It covers a bit of everything, except predictive techniques. The authors are also historians who have great academic research on astrology. You should definitely take a look at the Astra Project website and follow their youtube channel. In fact, I met Luis Ribeiro two weeks ago at a conference at my university (coincidentally my university is the only one in Brazil that has a research group that brings together researchers in astrology, called Academia Celeste), where he gave a mini-course and I was impressed above all by his rare way of valuing astrology as an object of academic research, emphasizing the history of its techniques as well, and the ease with which he can teach about its epistemological debates and fundamentals etc.

Deborah Houlding's Houses: Temples of the sky is the best book on the subject of houses. I believe you have to go to a book that's specific about houses, because the topic really deserves the depth and it's probably the most important thing to understand in astrology.

Demetra George's Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice volumes I and II.

Predictive techniques:

The Seven Stars Astrology blog was actually my first source on this subject, it's easy but very well researched and it was very important for me to find. The articles do a pretty good job at gathering the hellenistic sources and explaining what's important to understand about them, it's the best to have someone to hold your hand through things before you dive into the primary sources.

Astrología Hermética by Eduardo Gramaglia. I'm not sure if there's an english translation of this one, it's one of the best introductory books too, complete and concise.

Astrologia Gallica book 23 by Jean-Baptiste Morin, which is about Revolutions. I always go back to chapter 18 as recommended by my teachers, where he gives universal rules for solar returns that you can adopt.

Ancient sources (from I to IV AD):

Marcus Manilius' Astronomica is just beautiful on a lot of points, you should go to it for the poetry, just to have the delight. And his poetry also gives the best and concise insights on the fixed stars and the signs.

Dorotheus of Sidon's Carmen Astrologicum is probably the first most technical book of the ancients that you should go to. It's the most influential and easiest to find. Dorotheus was a contemporary of Manilius, but the versions we have of his book are influenced by later Arabic translations.

Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos. Even though astrologers are right to be ingrates to daddy Ptolemy we should still read him.

Vettius Valens' Anthologies is everybody's favorite hellenistic source.

Firmicus Maternus' Mathesis is a bummer of a book, his delineations are super dramatic, but it's great to read from the beginning to understand Firmicus' logic and you'll be able to get how he thinks and predict what he's going to say next, and this is a testament to how good of a teacher he probably was.

On Mundane Astrology:

The Meio do Céu newsletter is my first and main source. The writer Ísis is one of my teachers. I participate in her workshops, where we contribute collectively to the predictions and learn a lot. It's in portuguese, but it's pretty understandable with the translation option on your browser. It's free with special editions for paying subscribers. I recommend starting with the edition 72 and then edition 101 on the Solar Eclipse in Aries.

Bonatti on Mundane Astrology, by Benjamin Dykes. This is one of our sources with Ísis on the workshops, I've been trying to read it and I'm far enough to say it's a great read.

Tetrabiblos book 2, Ptolemy.

On philosophy, history, important topics etc:

The Daimon in Hellenistic Astrology: Origins and Influence, by Dorian Greenbaum. This is one of my favorites and I can't recommend it enough, because very few astrologers take much time to understand before talking about the daimon. And it's impossible for you to avoid the daimon in your practice, because it is crucial and predominant in everything in Hellenistic astrology.

On Horary:

William Lilly's Christian Astrology. There's a reason we all go back to him, it's the fact that is such a didactical book, you can always use it as an instruction manual basically. He gives instructions on how to approach any kind of question and gives so many examples, it's a hit.

On the fixed stars:

The Constellations of Words website is still the easiest source for learning about fixed stars, but here are their most cited books:

Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos book I chapter 9-11, of course, because he's the earliest source and it's important to see the difference between how the hellenistics called and understood the fixed stars and how things changed after the arabics.

Vivian E. Robson's The Fixed Stars and Constellations in Astrology (XX AD) is a must have. It's another one that's strictly astrological and plus gives a method on how to interpret fixed stars, though you don't need to follow it necessarily.

Marcus Manilius' Astronomica book 5. I always make sure to read attentively Manilius' poetry about the constellation I'm researching. It's always incredibly useful, never disappointing.

William Tyler Olcott's Star Lore: Myths, Legends and Facts (XIX AD). This is a great one to get a lot of the different stories and histories of the stars. It really helps you to understand the constellations in depth.

[boopiddyboop]

Hello!! Do you do readings for other people?? Like not just celebrities? I’m curious about my birth chart~ I kinda wanna know what my birth chart says but all I can access are free online tools😅🙈 Like the astrology cafe thing is the most I can have interpretations of my birth chart but that’s it😅🙈

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Hi there! To answer the first question, do I do readings for other people? Short answer is yes, but typically in-person as a party trick, if you get what I mean. It's more, how do you say... vibes than a clinical dissection, my reading. And certainly, because this is in no way my profession, any I say is subject to scrutiny. I actually started reading celebrities as a way to better grasp the principles of astrology. Wider pool of candidates and all that. The downside being that a lot of interpretation becomes inductive reasoning instead of deductive, which can lead to biased results. However, it's a good starting point once you move past your own chart. Feel free to send any particular questions to the inbox and I can try to answer them, but once again, I read by more traditional standards and most information online is catered to modern tastes. Nothing wrong with that! But my interpretation may vary wildly based on small features. I don't claim to be more correct, but I probably won't be super helpful in the long run. If you would like some more resources, I can point you in that direction though! I personally use astro.com to generate charts. Click Horoscopes > Go to Free Horoscopes and click All Horoscopes at a glance. Click Extended Chart Selection, and here you can input your birth data, and choose what kind of drawing you want. The default is what you would get on cafe astrology- I change the houses to "whole signs" and turn Uranus-Pluto off.

Another website I've started utilizing is astro-seek, which has a lot of additional resources for interpreting both modern and traditional charts :) The user interface is a little more friendly in my opinion, but I haven't used it very thoroughly to account for all of it's features.

There are also a LOT of free resources and interpretations for aspects/signs in the grand ol' Google machine, and my search history is littered with "x in x sign" or "x in nth house" searches. Take all interpretations with some salt, but between them you can kind of get a flavor for things. Just remember: placements do not exist in a vacuum; a chart is a conglomeration of many parts that show complex people at work.

Finally, books! Peruse your local library and see what they have. I don't have many recommendations on the modern side, but I have a copy of Tetrabiblos by Ptolemy and Carmen Astrologicum by Dorotheus of Sidon (trans. by Benjamin N. Dykes) in my personal library. The first one covers some basic traditional principles, the second is more predictive in nature. Both are very... uh... dense. Not beginner friendly at all, with the Carmen Astrologicum reading like a Bible.

I hope this was helpful in some way :) Feel free to reach out in the future ~

[monkvyasaa]

The role of ancient people in astrology: what was achieved?

The function of historical humans in astrology: what has been achieved? Astrology may be traced back to the historical Babylonians. They have been the first to attach myths to constellations and outline the zodiac symptoms and symptoms. This machine became delicate with the aid of the Egyptians, after which with the aid of the Greeks. Astrology became additionally practised in different historical cultures. In Greek, the word “Astro” means “star.” Astronomy and astrological understanding have grown collectively in numerous components of the world.

Babylonian and Mesopotamian astrology Babylonian astrology dates from the second century BCE. Mesopotamia recognized five stars similar to the Sun and Moon. They used a technique of prediction referred to as the Enuma Anu Enlil. Earlier kinds of astrology relied heavily on omens. The Babylonian wide variety machine gave an upward push to the minutes and seconds used to degree the zodiac. The historical Babylonians were those who divided the heavens into twelve symptoms and twelve symptoms, or constellations. These twelve divisions have been later named the zodiac with the aid of using the Greeks. The Babylonians used astrology to make vast predictions for the whole nation, which we now call mundane astrology.

Greek Astrology The Greeks made large contributions to astronomy and astrology. The hyperlinks to the Greek gods keep advantaging astrology. When Alexander the Great’s conquests unfolded in Asia, it was widely believed that the Greeks had uncovered the understanding of astrology that existed within the regions that they conquered, including Babylon, Syria, and Persia. They modified the astrology script into Greek.

Hipparchus, a Greek astronomer, developed trigonometry and the equinox precession. Ptolemy, a Greek mathematician, astronomer, and astrologer, wrote the Tetrabiblios. He went into outstanding elements approximately the planets, houses, symptoms, and factors, in addition to their functions. His definitions are nevertheless relevant to trendy Western astrology exercises. Ptolemy additionally defined how the zodiac corresponded to and aligned with the solstices and equinoxes. He additionally explained why planets seem to slow, speed up, and retrograde from Earth’s perspective.

The Roman Empire The Romans made no adjustments to the exercise of astrology. However, their data and documentation have fared better. We have Marcus Manilius’ Astronomica, a poem that covers many aspects of astrology. In Dorotheus of Sidon’s poem on astrology, the idea of triplicities is described.

Egyptian Astrology Astrology was practised extensively in Hellenistic Egypt. We can see depictions of the Zodiac’s twelve symptoms and symptoms in historical Egyptian bas-reliefs. The Egyptians valued the heavenly bodies and believed they had an effect on all humans. They used calendars that displayed beneficial and unfavorable days, much like horoscopes. The pyramids were no longer the most effective of the Pharaohs’ very last resting places, but in addition, they had astronomical significance. Their sloping corridors have been extensively utilized as astronomical sighting tubes.

Mayan Astronomy and Astrology The historical Mayans of Mexico additionally practised astrology. A historical staircase ends in home windows on the Caracol Observatory. Each of those home windows corresponds to the planets’ positions at distinct instances of the year.

Arabian Astrology Many of the Greek ideas of astrology have been followed with the aid of using the Islamic world. There became additionally numerous understanding trade among the Arabs and India. Between the 8th and 10th centuries, there were numerous studies conducted in those fields in Baghdad. Many works have been translated from Greek, Sanskrit, and Pahlavi into Arabic with the aid of their scholars. They then used all of this understanding to fully understand the needs of their religion, Islam, which required them to decide the time and route of Mecca for prayer. As a result, they created calendar gear and techniques in response.

[rosesastrology]

I LOVE HOW YOU WENT INTO so much depth in that chart. have you ever tried reading chart but with sidereal placements?? apparently horary was made for sidereal you might find some valuable insight through that too. just a suggestion :D

Thank you :) try my best.

Mhm.. Dorotheus and Masha Allah were (possibly) siderealists and they were some of the most influential sources on astrology when it comes to ancient texts on horary. Dorotheus of Sidon was the author of Carmen Astrologicum amongst others, and Masha Allah Ibn Athari wrote On Reception amongst others. Ptolemy also used sidereal astrology from time to time. Sidereal astrology is still the 'standard' system (instead of tropical) in Vedic astrology.

Regiomontanus (the system I use) is a system that was often used in Europe by horarists such as William Lilly, Lilly based his work strongly of Ptolemy. Lilly, and everyone who studied Lilly, worked with Regiomontanus.

However, these days, there is a lot of discussion. You have people who use regiomontanus, whole sign system, placidus, etc. It's the same as with natal astrology where there are debates about Koch, equal, placidus, etc. Still, Regiomontanus is used most commonly.

Regiomontanus (and tropical systems in general) is/are calculated by the right ascension, rather than the celestial longitude. While sidereal systems of astrology define the signs relative to the apparent backwards movement of fixed stars of about 1 degree every 72 years from the perspective of the Earth, tropical (including regiomontanus, placidus, Koch, etc.) systems define 0 degrees of Aries to coincide with the vernal point or vernal equinox (also known as the March equinox in the Northern hemisphere), and define the rest of the zodiac from this point. [1]

In simple terms, tropical systems calculate from 0° Aries which coincides with the March equinox and divide the rest of the zodiac from Aries. Sidereal is calculated in relation to the backwards movement of 1° every 72 years of the fixed stars.

I'm curious if a chart gives a completely different answer if you change the house systems, though :)

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[orthodoxydaily]

Saints&Reading: Fri., June 5, 2020

Hieromartyr Dorotheus, Bishop of Tyre

The Hieromartyr Dorotheus was bishop of the Phoenician city of Tyre, during the time of the persecution against Christians under the emperor Diocletian (284-305). Heeding the words of the Gospel (Mt.10:23), the saint withdrew from Tyre and hid from the persecutors. He returned to Tyre during the reign of Saint Constantine the Great (306-337, May 21), again occupying the bishop’s throne he guided his flock for more than fifty years, and converted many of the pagans to Christianity. When the emperor Julian the Apostate (361-363) began openly to persecute Christians, Saint Dorotheus was already over 100 years old. He withdrew from Tyre to the Myzean city of Udum (present day Bulgarian Varna). Delegates of the emperor arrested him there for his refusal to offer sacrifice to idols. They began to torture the holy Elder, and under torture he surrendered his soul to the Lord (+ ca. 362) at the age of 107.

Some ascribe to Saint Dorotheus the compilation of a work, “The Synopsis”, a collection of sayings, and including lives of the holy prophets and apostles

Venerable Dorotheus of Gaza

The Holy Abba Dorotheus was a disciple of Saint John the Prophet in the Palestinian monastery of Abba Seridus in the sixth century.

In his youth he had zealously studied secular science. “When I sought worldly knowledge,” wrote the abba, “it was very difficult at first. When I would come to take a book, I was like a man about to touch a wild beast. When I forced myself to study, then God helped me, and diligence became such a habit that I did not know what I ate, what I drank, whether I had slept, nor whether I was warm or not. I was oblivious to all this while reading. I could not be dragged away by my friends for meals, nor would I even talk with them while I was absorbed in reading. When the philosopher let us go, I went home and washed, and ate whatever was prepared for me. After Vespers, I lit a lamp and continued reading until midnight.” — so absorbed was Abba Dorotheus in his studies at that time.

He devoted himself to monastic activity with an even greater zeal. Upon entering the monastery, he says in his tenth Instruction, he decided that his study of virtue ought to be more fervent than his occupation with secular science had been.

One of the first obediences of Abba Dorotheus was to greet and to see to pilgrims arriving at the monastery. It gave him opportunity to converse with people from various different positions in life, bearing all sorts of burdens and tribulations, and contending against manifold temptations. With the means of a certain brother Saint Dorotheus built an infirmary, in which also he served. The holy abba himself described his obedience, “At the time I had only just recovered from a serious illness. Travellers would arrive in the evening, and I spent the evening with them. Then camel drivers would come, and I saw to their needs. It often happened that once I had fallen asleep, other things arose requiring my attention. Then it would be time for Vigil.” Saint Dorotheus asked one of the brethren to wake him up for for Vigil, and another to prevent him from dozing during the service. “Believe me,” said the holy abba, “I revered and honored them as though my salvation depended upon them.”...keep reading

Acts: 27:1-44 NKJV

27 And when it was decided that we should sail to Italy, they delivered Paul and some other prisoners to one named Julius, a centurion of the Augustan Regiment. 2 So, entering a ship of Adramyttium, we put to sea, meaning to sail along the coasts of Asia. Aristarchus, a Macedonian of Thessalonica, was with us. 3 And the next day we landed at Sidon. And Julius treated Paul kindly and gave him liberty to go to his friends and receive care. 4 When we had put to sea from there, we sailed under the shelter ofCyprus, because the winds were contrary. 5 And when we had sailed over the sea which is off Cilicia and Pamphylia, we came to Myra, a city of Lycia. 6 There the centurion found an Alexandrian ship sailing to Italy, and he put us on board.

7 When we had sailed slowly many days, and arrived with difficulty off Cnidus, the wind not permitting us to proceed, we sailed under the shelter of Crete off Salmone. 8 Passing it with difficulty, we came to a place called Fair Havens, near the city ofLasea.

Paul’s Warning Ignored

9 Now when much time had been spent, and sailing was now dangerous because [a]the Fast was already over, Paul advised them, 10 saying, “Men, I perceive that this voyage will end with disaster and much loss, not only of the cargo and ship, but also our lives.” 11 Nevertheless the centurion was more persuaded by the helmsman and the owner of the ship than by the things spoken by Paul. 12 And because the harbor was not suitable to winter in, the majority advised to set sail from there also, if by any means they could reach Phoenix, a harbor of Crete opening toward the southwest and northwest, and winter there.

In the Tempest

13 When the south wind blew softly, supposing that they had obtained their desire, putting out to sea, they sailed close by Crete. 14 But not long after, a tempestuous head wind arose, called [b]Euroclydon. 15 So when the ship was caught, and could not head into the wind, we let her [c]drive. 16 And running under the shelter of an island called [d]Clauda, we secured the skiff with difficulty. 17 When they had taken it on board, they used cables to undergird the ship; and fearing lest they should run aground on the [e]Syrtis Sands, they struck sail and so were driven. 18 And because we were exceedingly tempest-tossed, the next day they lightened the ship. 19 On the third day we threw the ship’s tackle overboard with our own hands. 20 Now when neither sun nor stars appeared for many days, and no small tempest beat on us, all hope that we would be saved was finally given up.

21 But after long abstinence from food, then Paul stood in the midst of them and said, “Men, you should have listened to me, and not have sailed from Crete and incurred this disaster and loss. 22 And now I urge you to take [f]heart, for there will be no loss of life among you, but only of the ship. 23 For there stood by me this night an angel of the God to whom I belong and whom I serve, 24 saying, ‘Do not be afraid, Paul; you must be brought before Caesar; and indeed God has granted you all those who sail with you.’ 25 Therefore take heart, men, for I believe God that it will be just as it was told me. 26 However, we must run aground on a certain island.”

27 Now when the fourteenth night had come, as we were driven up and down in the Adriatic Sea, about midnight the sailors sensed that they were drawing near some land. 28 And they took soundings and found it to be twenty fathoms; and when they had gone a little farther, they took soundings again and found it to be fifteen fathoms. 29 Then, fearing lest we should run aground on the rocks, they dropped four anchors from the stern, and [g]prayed for day to come. 30 And as the sailors were seeking to escape from the ship, when they had let down the skiff into the sea, under pretense of putting out anchors from the prow, 31 Paul said to the centurion and the soldiers, “Unless these men stay in the ship, you cannot be saved.” 32 Then the soldiers cut away the ropes of the skiff and let it fall off.

33 And as day was about to dawn, Paul implored them all to take food, saying, “Today is the fourteenth day you have waited and continued without food, and eaten nothing. 34 Therefore I urge you to take nourishment, for this is for your survival, since not a hair will fall from the head of any of you.” 35 And when he had said these things, he took bread and gave thanks to God in the presence of them all; and when he had broken ithe began to eat. 36 Then they were all encouraged, and also took food themselves. 37 And in all we were two hundred and seventy-six persons on the ship. 38 So when they had eaten enough, they lightened the ship and threw out the wheat into the sea.

Shipwrecked on Malta

39 When it was day, they did not recognize the land; but they observed a bay with a beach, onto which they planned to run the ship if possible. 40 And they [h]let go the anchors and left them in the sea, meanwhile loosing the rudder ropes; and they hoisted the mainsail to the wind and made for shore. 41 But striking [i]a place where two seas met, they ran the ship aground; and the prow stuck fast and remained immovable, but the stern was being broken up by the violence of the waves.

42 And the soldiers’ plan was to kill the prisoners, lest any of them should swim away and escape. 43 But the centurion, wanting to save Paul, kept them from their purpose, and commanded that those who could swim should jump overboard first and get to land, 44 and the rest, some on boards and some on parts of the ship. And so it was that they all escaped safely to land.

Footnotes

Acts 27:9 The Day of Atonement, late September or early October

Acts 27:14 A southeast wind that stirs up broad waves; NU Euraquilon, a northeaster

Acts 27:15 be driven

Acts 27:16 NU Cauda

Acts 27:17 M Syrtes

Acts 27:22 courage

Acts 27:29 Or wished

Acts 27:40 cast off

Acts 27:41 A reef

John 17: 18-26 NKJV

18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.

Jesus Prays for All Believers

20 “I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who [a]will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

24 “Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me. 26 And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them.”

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Footnotes

John 17:20 NU, M omit will

New King James Version (NKJVScripture taken from the New King James Version®. Copyright © 1982 by Thomas Nelson. All rights reserved.

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For my own convenience, with respect to the article above.

From the article:

“Naturally, the trine is the most favourable aspect because harmony and balance are inherent in its shape.[4] It has the ability to facilitate agreement between the planets, and enables them to respond sympathetically to each other. Whether the result is beneficial or not depends entirely upon the planets involved and what they represent - the destructive qualities of a malefic Saturn harmonising with the violent energies of a debilitated Mars may, of course, produce an influence that brings forth calamitous events.

The square, known as the quartile or quadrate, was not an altogether undesirable aspect. While unable to offer the easy agreement of the trine, the fact that the signs have a strong 'sight' of each other means there is recognition and a flow of power between them. Manilius explains that the trigon's power is greater than the quadrate's, but speaks favourably of them both when he says:

“And whatever points joined in a series of four the angle favours, and whatever point the straight line marks in its threefold track . . . upon these has nature bestowed federation and common law, mutual goodwill and rights of friendship with each of her.” [5]

The square was only taken as unquestionably damaging when a malefic or unfortunate planet was involved, though many texts speak of the need for reception or some other form of familiarity for there to be a positive influence.

Illustrations of the so-called 'bad' aspects being interpreted positively are found throughout the ancient text of Dorotheus of Sidon. Here we are told that it is better to have the Lord of the triplicity of the Moon in a good place with the Moon or in opposition to it or quartile or trine than it is to have the Lord of the triplicity not aspecting the ascendant or the Moon. The latter is a bad indication for that native. [6]

Dorotheus reminds us that the nature of the aspectual relationship depends upon a number of factors, principally the strength, nature, and overall condition of the planets involved. A trine from Jupiter to Venus might indicate fame, he warns, but if Venus is afflicted it will be a notorious infamy caused through disgraceful relationships. Similarly, a square aspect will not harm if both planets are well placed, dignified and receive each other amicably.

Dorotheus refers to the trine as an aspect of much love and to the quartile as one of a medium amount of love. No such friendship is indicated by the opposition; this aspect, based upon the divisive symbolism of number two, is the epitome of separation and enmity. Only occasionally is it taken to represent agreement - usually between conflicting parties who strike up an unstable alliance.

Manilius acknowledged a fundamental similarity between opposing signs because of their common gender, but added that more obvious differences predominate:

“... sign facing sign they shine opposed, yet because of their nature they are oft borne in alliance and a mutual sympathy springs up between them, linked as they are by the tie of sex:.... but over this tie the seasons prevail: Cancer resists Capricorn, though females both, since summer conflicts with winter.., wonder not at the signs so situate doing battle.” [7]

Not only is it unfriendly, the opposition is a very strong and forceful aspect because the planets have a clear and direct view of each other.

The sextile, which has an obtuse angle, has a relatively weak line of vision and its importance was frequently understated by classical authors.[8] Where it was used, its derivation from number three determined its interpretation. Dorotheus mentions that it is like the trine but weaker. [9] ”

Deborah Houlding wrote an absolutely fantastic article about the way the aspects were used in traditional astrology. She talks about out of sign aspects, whether an aspect is dexter or sinister, orbs for individual planets, how the square aspect was viewed in comparison to today, and so much more. I highly recommend reading this one. I normally include a quote but I’d end up quoting the whole article if I did that here.

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The latest additions to my library. I'm quite excited about them! I just finished Demetra George's first volume on Hellenistic astrology, Ancient Astrology in Theory and Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques, Volume I: Assessing Planetary Condition. It was excellent! Can’t wait for Volume II on the houses. I have yet to do all of the exercises in the text by hand. I have a pretty good grasp of my natal placements so I went through them mentally. I highly highly recommend Demetra’s book for anyone who is serious about learning ancient Hellenistic astrology. A must-have! If you read the book and follow the steps you will become proficient in assessing planetary condition the way the ancient Hellenistic astrologers did. It is tailored for this. So glad I invested in it! It starts off rather rudimentarily but builds in complexity, which is excellent for the uninitiated. 

These latest additions are going to be great as well. Deborah Houlding does excellent work. Her website www.skyscript.co.uk is an invaluable resource. I’m excited to read her treatment of the houses in ancient astrology. The Carmen Astrologicum is an important source text by Dorotheus of Sidon,  a 1st-century Hellenistic astrologer, translated by  Dr. Benjamin Dykes. A major figure in the revival of ancient astrology in the mid 90′s. Super exciting stuff!

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Omg i’m either dumb or the dorotheus of sidon is too hard to apply🥹😭😭

♀It seems like a lot of people are having trouble understanding it lmao. I'm sorry if the way I explained it wasn't as simple as I thought it would be but essentially it's like this;

Dorotheus Method; simplified

It is a bit complicated at first (because it involves some specific terminology & a set of rules) but all you need to refer to is the Triplicity Lord chart, see if you have a Night (sun in houses 1-6) or Day (sun in houses 12-7) chart & whether the signs are considered fertile or not (the chart is in that post).

₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑

Always count from the ascendant, past the 12th, 11th, 10th, 9th (don't go from ascendant to the 1st, 2nd & 3rd) & so on until you reach the sign before the Dominant Triplicity ruler (refer to the triplicity chart & day vs night dominant).

Fertile sign? Child. Count it.

Sterile sign? No child. Don't count it.

If Jupiter or Venus is in a particular sign, even if it's considered sterile the chances of a child manifesting is heightened. If it's in a fertile sign or double bodied sign, it could mean twins or double the amount.

If Mars or Saturn is on those signs however, it likely means a miscarriage or a termination. Something might hinder the prospect of that child's presence.

₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑

Hope this helps!

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Arabic Parts in your Horoscope

Arabic Parts in your Horoscope

Arabic parts (sometimes called Arabic Lots) are mathematical points based on the Ascendant (Natal). They are activated by transits in either natal or progressed charts.

Arabic Parts can be traced back to ancient Babylonian, Egyptian, and Hermetic astrology. They had become a standard astrology practice by the 1st Century as a part of Hellenistic astrology (Dorotheus of Sidon). Before classical…

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Chris Brennan - Dorotheus of Sidon: A New Translation by Ben Dykes http://theastrologypodcast.com/2017/05/07/dorotheus-of-sidon-a-new-translation-by-ben-dykes/

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Can you explain how do I know triplicity planets? I've read millions of times I'm confused. I've leo Jupiter 1th house night chart for example. Leo is sun. Sun Jupiter who's last planet 😂😭😭

♀ For this, it's really important to know what context or usage you are trying to apply the triplicity rulers with. I'm going to assume this ask is referring to the Dorotheus method (predicting the number of children you'll have) that I posted?

I've placed the triplicity rulers chart in the initial post.

But if you're having difficulty understanding, let me show you. Since you have Jupiter in Leo, we're going to refer to the chart here (or in my previous posts) and look at the "Triplicity Lords" section.

In Leo, they are Sun (labeled day) , Jupiter (labeled night) & Saturn. Your sun is in the 1st house, therefore you have a night chart ( sun in houses 1 - 6). Then you'll be focusing on Jupiter itself since this is the "strongest" triplicity lord.

Then, refer to the fertility chart that I've placed in the initial post. Leo is considered sterile (infertile). We are counting from the ascendant to the strongest triplicity lord to determine how many children one will have (always count the fertile signs only) clockwise 🔃 (1st, 12th, 11th etc). Never counter clockwise (1st, 2nd, 3rd etc).

So in your case, having the strongest triplicity lord in the 1st house in this sign means no children. However, if Venus is here then there may be a possibility of one child . If mars or Saturn is also here then there will be a miscarriage or loss of a child (refer to Beyoncé chart in the example for the "special cases" i.e strongest triplicity lord in the 1st house).

This is how it works according to Dorotheus' Method. ʕ⁠´⁠•⁠ᴥ⁠•⁠`⁠ʔ

₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑

Hope this helps!

[northopalshore]

hi gaia! how are you??? first i want to say how helpful i find your account ^^ like literally u explain everything so well im so grateful for discovering you!!!! u are amazing <3

i have a doubt about the children method :< if i did it right it would mean i wont have children at all 😞 i have asc in virgo, day chart, and my dominant to count is venus in gemini (that i have in 10h whole sing), i know that leo doesnt count and then saturn in cancer cancels it, meaning that i wont have children at all

my question: is there a possibility that my jupiter in virgo (even tho is in 1h) could give me twins or two children? or my mars thats before the venus? i would love to have three in the future 🥺

thank u so much!!! have a beautiful day! <3

♀Hello

So Virgo Jupiter, day chart, Venus is the stronger triplicity ruler. Your Venus is in the 10th house (here).

Normally, we don't count the ascendant itself (unless the triplicity lord is sitting there) again, I've added Beyoncé's chart as an example in the main post.

Here, Venus is in Gemini (which could produce twins or two separate children) sometimes even if the sign isn't considered fertile. However, as mars is here, there will likely be an issue with one of them.

At most you'll likely have 2 children but 1 is guaranteed.

₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑

Hope this helps ♡

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Hi, Gaia! I was the one who asked for help interpreting the numver of children I may potentially have (if ever I choose to have them hehe). Thanks for the answer, that was helpful. I have another question, if that's alright. What if I have Saturn and Jupiter both in Taurus? Does it kind of negate/cancel the negativities or Saturn? Or does it matter which degree is bigger?

Goodness. Three kids. Hahaha. That's quite a lot. Lol.

♀Hello!

It doesn't cancel the effects of Jupiter fully, but it takes one away if that makes sense. Like if you're supposed to have two, one will remain or you may have complications with the other child during pregnancy.

Like Beyoncé, she has both good and bad planets there which I've already explained in the main post. Her's is interesting since the dominant triplicity ruler is in the ascendant.

It's hard to really picture ourselves with more than one kid before it actually happens lol. But that's just how life sort of works, we just come around to it eventually. It's kind of sweet. By then, we'd have a life different than the one we currently live in. It's both exciting & frightening lol.

₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑

Hope this helps!

[northopalshore]

Hi love! Thank you for the simplified version of the post! Here’s my analysis:

I have a scorpio jupiter and night chart. So triplicity lord should be mars cause it’s stronger than moon and mercury. My mars is in 8th house, so I counted from the ascendant till the sign before the triplicity lord:

Virgo (12th house), leo (11th), cancer (10th), and gemini (9th).

So it’d be one child (cancer) then twins (gemini)

♀ Helloo

Scorpio Jupiter night chart (triplicity lords: Mars-Moon- Venus in that order) Mars (night) is stronger than venus (day) here.

Essentially, that's right. As for Gemini, there could be a likelihood of twins (usually solidified if Jupiter or venus is here) if not, then count it as two separate children. So you're likely going to have 3 kids somewhere along your life.

₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑ . ₊ ⊹ .₊๋‧₊ ˚ ⊹ ࣭ ⭑

Hope this helps!