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Anyway back to our regularly scheduled Supernatural rambling but
Season 3 has me so fucked up because from time to time I'll realize that both Sam and Dean are wholeheartedly convinced that this is the last year they'll ever spend together???
Like they don't know that Dean will eventually be back. Jesus Christ isn't that just horrible
#i hope you know what i mean#incoherent ramblings#dont tag this as wincest#supernatural#spn#dean winchester#sam winchester
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Lord knows I'm gonna regret this because people go buckwild about ships, but look. You can love destiel, I'm happy for you. You don't even need to give me any evidence. Ship characters who haven't even met if you want, I'm not bothered.
But please, I'm begging, stop using the siren thing as evidence for destiel. The siren being Sam isn't even subtext it's just text, what with the 'I gave him what he needed. And it wasn't some bitch in a G-string. It was you' line so there are exactly two ways you can take it.
1. Dean's greatest desire is to have a good relationship with his brother (the siren can take on the shape of platonic desires)
2. Dean's greatest desire is to fuck his brother (the siren can only take on the shape of sexual desires)
You don't have to like option 2, that's fine. But in that case, take option 1 and run with it people. Because if you start trying to argue that:
The siren is evidence that Dean has sexual feelings towards a man, so Dean is bi, therefore destiel. What you're really arguing is Dean has sexual feelings for the illusory, perfect version of Sam.
Like idk guys, I see people joking about how not heterosexual Dean's siren being a man is and... you can totally watch it that way. But the siren isn't just a man he is a very specific man.... his brother.... soooo.
#i have no idea how to tag this#cos i dont wanna clutter up anyones ship tags?#wincest#i guess?#sam winchester#supernatural#dean winchester#spn#spn 4x14#sex and violence#please don’t crucify me y'all I'm glad you enjoy your angel ship
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a short defence of incest shipping:
psychology BA (and future psychologist most likely) here! also an incest shipper! my very valid and scientific theory for why we ship incest is that we desire a love where we could never ever be left by the other because we're connected in more ways than romantic. it's very similar than the soulmate trope but for people who like a bit of spice (i don't mean smut here btw). in the soulmate trope you're thrust together with someone new, the incest trope has more of a friends to lovers vibe. the idea of strangers meetcute falling in love is very Straight and Neurotypical, friends or enemies or siblings first offers a less conventional story structure. the incest trope also deals with shame. a lot of people have shame about love and sex! especially religious people and queer people. incest is a metaphor!!! it's not about wanting to fuck your literal family! it's just about liking a strong bond. what we ship does say something of us but it's not usually the most straightforward explanation. also, this is just my theory, there are probably more reasons for liking incest ships. but i beg, BEG antis to look beneath the surface when screaming about brotherfucking pro shippers.
#wincest#flowers in the attic#wuthering heights#defan#helaemond#daemyra#lannicest#samdean#maxincest#crimson peak#cathy/chris#cathy dollanganger#i dont even ship all that just tagged all incest i could think of lmao#also i know this is in nonscientific form (its kind of in purpose) but i swear i could write a paper on this#i know you can easily lie about your education online but i swear i really am a psych masters student!!#btw.#thorki
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Cowboys: Dean helping Sam apply his lipstick💄
#they have to blend in at a gayclub on cowboy night for a case or something#thats their excuse#i dont have one#its from the sketch i posted with cowboy sam!#jaydraws#wincest#samdean#TUMBLR KEEPS HIDING THIS POST FROM THE TAGS IM SORRY I KEEP DELETING AND REPOSTING IT IDK WHY ITS HAPPENING#not allowed to link a post ON TUMBLR or add closeup/fullverison apparently#im very very frustrated rn#cant even reply to the post with a link or reblog to add the other images#every time i tried tumblr hid the whole post
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sorry but the "trying to get rid of us" part.... like we were here from literally day one. you came into OUR house and decided the show was about something that it's not. also, even if we weren't here from the beginning, we deserve to be here every bit as you do. why are you trying to gatekeep fandom, when it's always been for the freaks. especially on the incest family horror show
#sorry for the salt but this one got to me lol#like i love cas. i even like deancas as a ship. but i also love wincest and am not deluded to the fact that#this show has always been about BROTHERS and FAMILY and the horrors of it all#like maybe this show isnt for you? if you cant at least acknowledge that?#also fuck you actually im not going to lurk in the shadows#anyways. post gets drowned#nep speaks#fandom wank#wincest#spn#u can at least use the anti tags. and not put it in the main tag. and block the tags of stuff u dont wanna see.
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how many times do you think sam used "please? for me?" on dean? especially growing up, batting his eyelashes and giving him the Puppy Eyes™️ and acting like he could fit in dean's pocket?
can't we stay here for another month? will you please ask dad? please? for me?
can you cancel your date and stay in tonight? please? for me?
and dean didn't even stop to think about it before he did what sammy asked because there's nothing sam could ever ask of him he wouldn't do or give or kill but at the same time he would get so annoyed because sam knew exactly the power he had over him. but eventually he came to terms with it and got used to the idea of having sammy as both a brother and a religion and just accepted his fate.
"please? for me?"
"amen."
#sam and dean#weirdchesters#they are sooooo#wincest#sammy is a needy baby bro#“can you teach me how to kiss? i dont want to be the only one in class who never kissed before”#“sammy thats not such a good idea”#*puppy-eyes* “please? for me?”#*dean's mind* what am i gonna do? say no?#forgot to add the#weecest#tag
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@samjohnsundays
#samjohn#wincest#implied deanjhn but i dont think its enough to put it in the tag#you can also take this as weirdcest#sam winchester#john winchester#dean winchester#you cant see sam fully in most of these ... make of that what you will#partly inspired by a flowers in the attic edit by emiliosandozsequence#my edits
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yea so...... there's going to be a part 2 to nobody else
Dean fucked him like he wanted to fill him up so much the trash inside just leaked through his pores. Like he was righting all the wrongs. The thing is, Sam is wrong to his very foundation. Far deep in his cells, molecules, down to his atoms.
He cannot be fixed.
What he can do is look for redemption.
#this is all your guys fault just so you know#im not immune to compliments lol#i dont know when ill finish this but i got the concept for it i think i can make it work#but i want to finish some things up first#you guys know sequels always drop in quality so lets manage expectations#me @ myself#wincest#writing tag
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On topic of john teaching dean how to take care of sammy i have very clear vision of john holding dean's head down on sam's pretty hole while dean eats his bby brother out to prepare him and make him all loose and wet and boneless
#perhaps i sbut up now#wincest#family sickness#dont know how to tag even they all br fucking#samjohn
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I need to make a rant about this since it's pissing me off. Im getting so damn tired of the supernatural fandom. Especially on tumblr. For context. I only follow the aupernatural tag itself. No subtags. Half of what i get on my feed is wincest. And then there's the rabid sam and dean girls. Like i just saw a guy complaining about how sam's loyalty was lacking when he let Dean be turned. Sam is soulles? His whole way of thinking is changed by this. He admitted this. Yes it was a fucking shitty thing to do. But he isn't Sam. Not really. He's ths brains and body of Sam. His soul, his feelings. Are stjll in tje cage. Like can we all just let each othwr rest in peace in this fandom. Like who you likw. Dislikw who you dislike. But im so tired of the tag being filled with this sort of stuff only. Like come ths fuck on man
#supernatural#wincest#sam winchester#dean winchester#for clarity sake#i dont ship wincest#im tagging it because its relevant to what im talking about#so thats that
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Headcanon that sam has really crackly bones AND he's super flexible, like can totally fold himself into a pretzel. So he spends his time cracking his back in ways that require him to fold himself weird just to annoy Dean.
Sam: *cracks back by twisting himself in unhuman ways*
Dean: what the actual fuck was that.
Sam: my back hurt
Dean: OH I WONDER WHY
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do not loop in kripke with yourself and other disgusting w*ncest shippers. he did NOT want this or anyone to interpret his work this way. he is not sick like you. do not claim him as a source for your filth
istg y'all just hate fun😭 cant even joke on here anymore. you're not the shipping police, you're just the fun police!!! like besides the obvious of this being insane, you guys cant even take a jokey joke anymore? will you drop dead if you see one? is a one-liner akin to poison in your circles? is it truly THAT serious??? like am i not allowed a chuckle, perhaps even a laugh on my own account😭
#you must be so fun at parties!!!#but in all seriousness#i'm obviously not gonna tag my wincest posts with source: eric kripke#please get a grip#i genuinely dont have a problem with destiel fans idk why you guys keep coming to this blog#i'm also turning off anon#idgaf if you wanna call me disgusting at least be proud and dont censor the word wincest#you're not gonna catch a case of wincestid24 by spelling it#samdean#wincest#also tagging this as#destiel#because i KNOW its one of you guys#please control yourselves
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So I had a dream about wincest(being obsessed with each other as always lol)
I was half asleep when I wrote this so bear with me
So I had this dream where some monster essentially got to sam and manipulated his world into his like ideal world. And his ideal world was him being a kid again with Dean taking care of him, just them in this little house. The same perfect day played over and over again, like a time loop. And somewhere outside this house is the real Dean, caught a time loop of his own, as he continously breaks into this little house to try to get to Sam and free him. But this monster always gets to him first and catches him off guard. It's like he doesn't remember the last time he was in the house, like it always feels like the first time setting foot in it, because the creature uses the same move over and over to kill him(but like, he doesn't really die, its more like this world is its own little pocket dimension and every time dean dies he wakes up outside of it again). And ever time, kid Sam hears something, but the monster/kid Dean tells him it's ok and they ignore it.
By the way, the monster in my dream is basically like this black-grey sentient goop(think Venom) that can morph itself into anyone it wants, and is hanging in weird strands all around the house that Sam doesn't notice. But dean does, and even though he tries to avoid stepping in it, it always catches his foot and essentially Webs his hands and gun in place, disarming him, then slams him against a glass mirror or a wall hard enough that it kills him.
Anyway, somewhere outside of this loop, Dean is vaguely aware that this monster always catches him with the same move, and the only reason he dies every time is because the surprise attack makes him too unsteady to shoot it, and catches him at a point where his footing is off, so he's easy to take down. But every time he enters the house again, he forgets what he learned, and it takes him down all over again. He admits to someone unseen that the reason it takes him down so easily/catches him off guard is because he's alone, aka Sam's not there to help him.
At some point, Sam starts becoming more aware that something is off, and that things are too perfect.
This is where the dream gets kind of fuzzy, but essentially Sam becomes aware enough and, still as a kid, sees adult dean walking through the house and calls out to him, confused. This time, Dean sees Sam and looks utterly relieved and says "Sammy..." like he's so happy to have found him. But this distraction causes the monster to catch him off guard again. It catches his foot and grabs his hands in its weird goo, but Sam is here now, and he sees this creature for the first time. So he yells out to Dean to move a certain way that gives him enough leverage to shoot the creature(this was mentioned as something dean always knew would help but always forgot when in the house).
Meanwhile, the monster actively tries to get into Sam's mind again and tell him, as young Dean, that everything will be ok so long as he let's him kill this intruder who's trying to hurt them. Finally it stops working on Sam and he becomes his real age again.
Some fight happens in between that I didn't really get to see, but the outcome was this: they managed to hurt the creature by working together, now that Dean wasn't alone, he doesn't die and actually gets some good shots in. At some point, Sam rushes the thing and the only reason it doesn't hurt him is because it grew some sort of attachment to him during the whole thing, and so he's the only one that it would let kill it(feels like a metaphor for Sam and Dean's real codependent obsessive relationship).
Anyway I don't remember much after this so that's basically all I have, so yeah.(also ignore any typos, I didn't edit this. I just woke up)
#also after they kill the monster someone mentioned something about it only letting sam kill it because he was like the mother to it#and dean was the father???#i didn’t add that in cause it doesn't really make any sense but yk. it was a dream so.#anyway#i dont go here#ive just watched a few episodes and like wincest as a ship#so take this as you will#if i had enough creative energy i would write a fic about this in great detail#but i dont so#maybe one of you can write something about it#wincest#samdean#weecest? technically??#weecest#i was gonna tag other main tags but i realized that would attract the wrong people#so im keeping it to the shipping tags#proship#for good measure#aml dreams#aml speaks#if my friends see this. no you dont.#pinning this post so i can come back to it when i write the fic for it lol
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twitter has poisoned this fandom i fear ... we used to be a community..
#rambling in the tags#i know many people here are twitter refugees#many of whom never experienced spnblr in its true prime#save us 2014 tumblr save us#there is so much spn fandom infighting now i cant#ppl used to be annoying and hateful way back when too but omg.... we used to be a community#like now its samgirls dont like deangirls (which??? are we not on the same side here???)#its deans a horrible evil person this well sams a toxic person that and destihellers and wincesties cant just get along#or just enjoy each others content#like i HATE THAT !! i hate the dean hate from samgirls i always despised the sam hate back in the day from mainly destiel shippers#(which ive seen WAY LESS sam hate since ive come back recently its mostly DEAN hate whether its wincest or destiel shippers)#and people werent calling each other disgusting freaks for shipping one thing or another#destihelllers have always been annoygin that much i will say but seriouslu#we used to be a FAMILY#now its whos character/ship the most valid/morally “correct” wars#i love that a lot of thoughts and opinions and ships and things have matured so much since 2014#truly its beautiful how much more detailed and nuanced the thoughts and ideas and opinions on the show are now that weve had like 10 years#to think and stew over this stuff#but theres just so much like. fighting and arguing#the spn empire has fallen in on itself#shouldnt be surprising#which im not really surprised just sad and idealistic#nostalgic for the days when we all loved all the characters and i didnt have to see “takes”#thanks a lot twitter.com#spn#ham.txt
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wondering when the world is gonna be woke enough to handle people coming out as wincest shippers
#wincest#posting this on main bc i dont have a sideblog and im not gonna make one#if my shipping havits make you uncomfortable block the tags#anyway obligatory reminder that im not pro incest irl i simply find the relationship compelling in fiction#nydias post#proship safe#supernatural#absolutely playing with fire by adding that tag
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can we have a tiny snippet of the endverse fic? 🙏🏼🙏🏼
here we go 🤍
The hot air that comes out of his mouth in rushed exhales gets trapped between his arms, both bent and awkward next to his face, his forehead pressed almost painfully to the floor- the thin layer of blanket not really softening the surface, just there to add more sweat to his front.
The heat is almost unbearable, but Sam can’t find the strength to lift even his little finger, even if that means the hard metal against his wrists press even harder. The pain of it is almost distant. He burns way hotter in the back, and that’s where his attention stands.
Dean is restless. He reaches up, holding Sam’s wrists, trying to alleviate some tension, or holding him in place, Sam doesn’t know. What he does know, what he can feel... all the little movements between his parted legs, the hot skin against his back and the rushed breaths in his nape. It's all so loud.
Dean gets close to his ear. “Don’t ever say that to me again,” he whispers, but it’s rough like a command. “You’re staying, Sam.”
#its all messy i have a lot of writing and editing to do still lets hope i get my shit together#but tried to find a little piece of it thats intriguing#if it will make the final cut we dont know yet lol#writing tag#wincest#endverse#ask
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