#don't support shubble

[aquamarine021109]

I started watching qsmp when it was first ever announced and I loved it, I loved the idea of people from different country's interacting with each other. And later on I loved how there were the eggs and stuff. And when wilbur got his egg (tallulah) I was so happy and I immediately feel in love with her character (not in a weird way tho) I also immediately related to her character and started to headcanon her autistic because im autistic and I thought it would be so cool to finally get good autistic representation (sense most shows betray it awfully). And as you can tell she was my favorite character (along side wilbur) and when wilbur was on tour I was so stoked to see what her reaction would be of him coming back.....but then the stupid allegations started happening and I couldn't help but feel denial because wilbur helped me through my darkest days during 2022....I then choose support shelby because people were saying if I support him then that would make me an abuser. So that's why at first I supported shelby.....but from all the evidence that she's an ableist and the actual abuser. I can't help but support will......and when I watched quackity's stream of him saying he removed wilbur from the server, I couldn't help but cry....that my favourite streamer is banned from a server that I really liked....and from seeing all of will's friends turn on him, really made me sad because him and tommy were literally like brothers, same thing with phil being like their father in a way, it just made me sad because. HOW CAN YOU TURN ON YOUR FRIEND BY TRUSTING A GIRL Y'ALL BARELY KNOW!?!?!?!?. LIKE AT LEAST TALK TO WILL BEFORE Y'ALL TRUST A PERSON Y'ALL HAVE ONLY KNEW FOR A FEW YEARS LIKE WHAT THE HELL KIND OF TRUST IS THAT. IF MY FRIEND THAT I'VE KNOWN FOR 7 YEARS JUST BELIEVED A GIRL WE'VE ONLY MET A FEW YEARS AGO IM NOT GOING TO BE FRIENDS WITH THEM ANYMORE.

(Also something that I want to say is that im probably not going to do qsmp stuff anymore sense tallulah's admin literally changed her whole character over something so stupid. And apparently she changed the name to "lullah" instead of "tallulah" which is so stupid. And I hate how the admin and the rest of the community have changed tallulah's design completely, like now she looks like a emo girl or something. no hate to emo people tho y'all are beautiful❤)

(I will still do dsmp stuff tho, because I liked that server more anyways)

[th3-c0ll3ct3r]

TW// the abuse situation! If you see and don't like, scroll and have a nice day!//TW

One thing I don't understand is why people feel the need to say that, "why does she have proof? Why isn't she saying anything?"

Like Wilbur himself did confirm it. are you blind?

And then the, "why didn't she say his name?" and that's because, sadly, Wilbur also has (a smaller then dreams but still) a cult-like following.

So what if she came out and no one believe her because of these extremely dedicated fans? That's a HUGE fear that no one (from that area if the Internet) really took into consideration. Being scared.

Because 1. If she isn't believed then out goes everything she worked for. 2. Wilbur Soot, a man she deemed dangerous would be getting away with it. 3. Wilbur could THEN SUE FOR DEFORMATION. 4. Wilbur is a citizen of the UK and Shelby is a citizen of AMERICA, making it an international crime related affair. 5. In America sometimes people are advised to not disclose information regarding the law on social media as it could be used against them. 6. Just straight being scared and drained of great mental health. 7. The fear of losing others.

finally 8. SHE DON'T GOTTA HAVE A REASON-

And if you don't see one of these eight as a valid reason then, truly and honestly, from a place from deep concern (and confusion) what is wrong with you?

Like, is my phone on the wrong side of social media? What is going on? What the hell.

Support shelby!

[momentomori24]

I was working on a longpost about this, but decided that scraping it and putting it in a few sentences should do just fine.

So I saw this trending two days ago with a bunch of posts wishing him well and "don't let the haters stop you" and "I will support you no matter what" and "hope your thriving" and whatever else adoring fans usually say, so I'll make this very brief: This guy is a domestic abuser that has been outed less than a year ago. In this case, your favourite pretty white boy isn't a fictional character; he's a real person whose actions have caused real harm that shouldn't be treated lightly, especially since he has shown no real remorse over what he's done and instead posted a blatantly manipulative and deeply self-centred ""apology"" where he admits to the abuse. If his friends could speak out against and ditch him for what he's done to his ex, you as a fan can and should too.

[peninkwrites]

(putting my very long, very personal ramble under a readmore so folks can avoid it) (this won't include any of my plans for going forward or for my writing but I'm not going anywhere so don't worry about that. love to you all.)

A little disclaimer: If you have zero context for what I'm talking about, apologies for not explaining in depth, but this post won't be relevant to you otherwise. All you really need to know is that it seems that Wilbur Soot is an abuser, and Shubble came forward and talked about it recently. He was not named, but from what she shared, I believe that was who she was talking about. I don't say this to speculate, and if you disagree, I'm not here to argue over it, but it's enough for me personally to not to want to support him indefinitely, save for Shubble explicitly saying she wasn't talking about him.

Additionally, these thoughts are some incredibly personal and self-centered rambling. It does not reflect where my priorities lie, with supporting Shelby for coming forward above all else, but other people have said that much better than I have, and this post is really just a place for me to vent some of my feelings.

I prided myself on not falling prey to “parasocial relationships.” I didn’t get invested in the personal lives of content creators, only in their creative works. I thought this protected me somehow. I knew next to nothing about Wilbur Soot’s personal life, but I admired him deeply as a writer and empathized with him as an artist. I projected so heavily onto his character and did so for over three years. When I waited for his final dsmp stream, I felt panicked. Like my survival hinged on how he ended this story, and then he ended it in a way I could live with, and I thought I could go on loving this story and these characters for what they had been, no matter how messy the rest of the endings to follow were. His character was mine in so many ways. He had some of my problems and I gave him some of my own. I used him to process quite a bit. And now that part of myself is irrevocably tainted.

When the stuff came out about Dream, I was upset, but not betrayed. I never followed the creator and he existed only as a character to me. All I grieved then was the community his actions destroyed and most importantly the people he hurt. I planned to continue writing for the DSMP, even as I refused to follow any content involving him. It felt like a pause, not a full stop, while I ensured what I was doing did not show him any support. I also gave that character no pity and therefore the man behind him no pity, I had no personal investment in his character.

Now my response is visceral and bitter and I don’t know how to go on writing, because this character meant the world to me. I don’t know how to write about a character I truly love and see myself in, knowing the person who also loved and saw himself in that character, who created that character, has done horrible things. I don’t know how to write any of these other characters I have loved and cared for for over 3 years because he has poisoned them. All of it turns my stomach now and I feel so betrayed. The thought of his character is tainted because it’s connected to his voice and his face. I cannot separate the art from the artist both because it was the inclusion of the authorship within the story which affected me so strongly, and because there are things within the text that I look back on now and can only see that this person was always this way. I couldn’t sleep last night. I kept thinking of c!Wilbur’s line when he found out about exile, “he didn’t actually hit you though“ and his horror when c!Tommy responded that he had, that for some reason that was the turning point. The implication that it was only crossing that line, that particular type of violence, which made something wrong. Fucking disgusting.

I’ve tried to find another story before now. For the last few years, honestly, I’ve looked for something to latch onto the way I have with this one, but nothing feels the way this did. I know I’ve been clinging to something gone or at least mostly gone, both the community and the story, but I haven’t known how to let go when nothing makes me feel the same way, even when the feeling has faded and changed so much with time. This was never supposed to go on this long. Honestly, the reason I started posting mcyt stuff to my sideblog instead of my main was because I assumed I would get over it in a few weeks, delete the posts, and move on. Three years. 40 works. Over a million words. Just. Fuck.

I loved these characters so much and I’ve wrapped up my writing in them for so long it’s hard to separate the two. At this point, it feels like these characters are what allow me to write, separate from the main story, but a place where I could work things out for myself as a person and try new things as a writer. And I’ve tried so hard to feel the same way about the QSMP, but maybe it’s because we’re out of lockdown so I don't have time to watch much, or I’ve just changed more than I’ve thought, but I haven't gotten attached the way I did even when I look at the stories being built there and can see the heart in them, the storytelling, the care, just as much as the DSMP if not more. There’s no good reason for it, it just hasn’t locked into place the way this story had, having been the perfect storm of circumstances. The DSMP came to me during one of the worst years of my life, and I have loved it so much I miss that time even with all the bad it carried too.

And now this thing I have been holding onto can only make me angry, hit me with grief and disgust. Fuck, the only plan I’ve had for an original novel in years is a loose adaptation of TDDD. My senior thesis was largely a novella about two siblings with a complicated relationship, the older fatalistic, the younger brave to the point of ignorance. So even that original project has poison in it now. All of it, all of my fucking work, all of my growth as a writer, all of my writing for over three fucking years has poison in it.

I’ve felt lost as a writer for a long time and the only thing keeping me anchored was these characters. And I don’t know how to cut them away from myself and I don’t know how to cut him away from what’s left when his writing, his character, undeniably gave me so much of a spark. When I’m happy, I write. When I’m sad, I write. There's so much bad in the world right now, but I could always fall back on writing. And now my main means of escape is the grief. Far more than ever before. I know this too shall pass and all that, and this hasn’t actually stolen my ability to write, but right now it all feels so ruined. I don’t know how long it will take for me to be able to look back on what I’ve made and not feel like this. I'd maybe moved on in some ways, but not all. There was so much left I wanted to do.

If you’ve somehow read this far, know that I love this community with my whole heart. I never quite made friends with any of you, even as I wanted to, and it's felt too late for a long time now. My beloved mutuals (and followers that are mutuals in all but name) I have found so much joy with you, in what all of you have created. I wish I could hold onto that above all else, even if I’m not quite sure how. I’m not going anywhere, to be clear. I won’t delete my blog and fall off the face of the earth or anything. I still love what all of you create and care about, even if things have changed and our interests don’t always align anymore. I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to detach this story from the creator, to love any of it the way I did or even love what I myself created again. I don’t really know why I’m writing this or if I’ll even post it except for the fact that you all are the only people who could understand.

Again, this was a deeply personal rant, not a statement about the situation as a whole, nor do I think this situation's impact on me takes an ounce of precedent over the person actually involved. The most important takeaway from this is what Shelby has shared, the importance of believing victims, to do what we can to protect ourselves from abuse that doesn’t seem obvious, and to look out for each other. Take care of yourselves, everyone.

[kianaisspiraling]

Wish we could turn back time to when things were still okay.

Wish Techno was still here, and I wish Wilbur wasn't a shitty person.

I miss when there were four SBI. Permanently stuck at 2/4 now.

I'd rather say 2/3, actually. Wilbur doesn't deserve to be there.

Fuck Wilbur. I hope nothing else falls apart, I may not watch this side of mcyt anymore, but every time something happens, another piece of my inner child dies.

Condolences to everyone who grieves for Techno, to everyone that Wilbur hurt, and to everyone who feels like their world is crumbling because of all of this.

I miss when the dsmp was my comfort space. Sometimes, I wish I never got into the dsmp at all because of how all the recent incidents have affected me, but I ultimately don't think I regret it. The good memories are now tainted by bad, but that doesn't mean there's no good to be found. You're allowed to feel sad that it's over and a big mess now, but remember to be happy for the good it gave you then. Not all is bad, and you are not alone. I hope everyone, no matter who they are, remembers that.

You're allowed to feel sad about missing Wilbur, but remember that the person you are missing is who you thought he was, not really him. Wilbur Soot was a facade, and behind it was William Gold, who is a horrible person. This isn't about him, though. It is about Shelby and everyone else that he hurt and manipulated. To all of his ex-friends and family. He won't truly apologize for what he did, but I'm sorry he did it. I'm sorry for supporting a liar, I hope to never make that mistake again, but you can never know anymore who's real. I'm sorry that I still hear his songs in my head, I wish I could hear something else.

I still don't really know what to do with myself, and that's okay. I need to remember that one day I will. This isn't the end, and this is ultimately an enlightenment. I'd rather know about it than not, even if it makes me feel gross. This is only the end for Wilbur, which makes me glad. It's also a new beginning for everyone he hurt. It doesn't feel okay now, but recovery doesn't start off good, nor is it linear. It may not be okay right now, and it will never always be okay, but it will be okay again one day. I'm not ready to let go yet, but I will anyway, because that's the first step to learning to be okay. I'm sorry to Shubble, and everyone he lied to, including his fans. None of them deserved that. The people that he built his career off of didn't deserve that.

I don't know how to end this. I don't know how I started this. I just need to put this somewhere, or I'm going to lose my mind. I know logically I shouldn't've been this attached to him, but that doesn't change the fact that I was and that it hurts. I don't know how to feel. I don't know what to do. All I know is fuck Wilbur and support Shelby and his other victims.

I hope you can have a good day/night despite all of this, but if not, that's okay. Remind yourself that you will have good days again. Just have to wait for them.

[jestroer]

I'm not usually a person to post on many serious matters not regarding fandom on here, but as someone who watched a lot of his stuff and posted about him in the past a bunch, I just wanted to say that I'm no longer am going to interacting with any of Wilbur's content and if you support Wilbur Soot then please don't follow my blog because you are not welcome here. All strength and love to Shubble in this ✊

[wonders-life-adventures]

Y'know what? Fuck it, I'm talking about Wilbur Soot again.

How is the fact that the ENTIRETY OF THE DSMP who hadn't interacted in YEARS all dropping and saying that they either noticed the behavior or he did the behavior to them as well not enough for Wilbur supporters???

Oh you're going to come after Shubble for "lying" do you want to come after Niki too? How about Bilzo? You guys are like flat earthers you're given the facts but you refuse to believe them for an ideal.

[basic-addition]

i bought wilbur soot merch, i spent almost 70 quid on this abusive asshole. i feel so fucking guilty, like what do i do with this shit now? it's a good piece of clothing that i don't want to waste but the connotations. i feel the same about listening to his music, i supported him by listening to it (not anymore tho)

i really fucking hope shelby/shubble, niki/nihachu and any other victims are ok and healing. this is also a reminder to support shubble, via following, subscribing, whatever

[something-lemonade]

both of these are about Twitter post btw

I just saw someone say that Shelby isn't valid in calling it abuse because some people have had it worse and she was "just bitten a couple times" and I feel physically ill,,,, I usually don't care, people have opinions about w!lbur situation that I don't agree with but... saying someone isn't abused because "it could've been worse" or "people have survived worse" really fucks with me

"I had it worse" is what my stepmom has told me for the past 7 years, this is an actual thing manipulators say to make the target feel guilty for being upset

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Also someone said "why didn't the others content creators react to Freddie's story?" because it's not like that???? Do you not understand that with wilbur they were addressing allegations against someone they were close too????? None of Shelby's friends 'reacted' to the allegations because... they didn't know wilbur... Freddie didn't do anything wrong so there was nothing to 'respond' to... There was no need to draw more attention to his coming out about it, especially since this was more between him and his regular viewers!

Also comparing two victims is *terrible* why can't you support both of them???? Why's it a battle??? Why can't we support every victim no matter how big or small their story is???

[sunset-sunbun]

I find it ironic how I used a Lovejoy song to cope with an abusive relationship and yet- here we are.

[sillylilzebra]

We love Shubble. We support Shubble.

[hopeful-rack5]

Alright I want to make a post about something, I think it's going to be important if I address this potential issue at hand first before I do any fic's.

the issue at hand is JonJon/ToiletJon/Jon Moyers and why I'm using him and his characters for my Fic's... alright let's get the obvious thing out of the way, I do not support what Jon did. what he did was awful and disgusting and I hope he's gotten help and had changed since then.

now I'm not going to explain the controversy and what happened because that's not what this post is about and I don't think I can explain it well. this post is about why I'm using him and his characters in my fic's.

for starters I like a lot of the characters Jon has played for example Jyles, Jazz, BATIM!Jon, Clockwork and even some of his newer Characters like Lefton, Bani and Mr. Dancy Hands. I love these characters and I want to use them and tell more stories with them, I believe in separating the art from the artist and in my opinion I think it's perfectly fine applying this principle to these Characters and there stories.

Two I want to continue these characters and there stories, I hate when characters and there stories just.... disappear and fuck off so to speak. it feels like a bitch slap across the face y'know.

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now I know I kind of confirmed this in my latest post but i'm still including Jon in the Newscapegang. the reason why i'm grouping him with them is to sort of.... provide a reminder of the good times, before everything went.... shit you know, I want to provide something that can make people imagine a better time.

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that's all if anyone is concerned or has a problem then I understand.... feel free to ask me a question about this manner and I will eventually and happily answer for now though.... BACK TO WRITING!

[kitariafilaree]

idk if unproblematic popular ccs even exist anymore

anyway, i don't support Wilbur and so on and so forth. support shubble, don't be a crappy person, etc etc. i'm so tired of finding out how many of my favorite ccs are horrible people

[particle70]

Sorry that I've been on a bit of a hiatus recently! Some important stuff came up and I wasn't in a good head space. Still struggling with the latter but I think I'm doing better now. I've been busy playing Side Order in the meantime and preparing for a performance coming up! Please let me know if you have any art suggestions or things!

[gayemoji]

jesus fucking christ.

[sadkachow]

Fuck Wilbur Soot. Support Shubble.

I've tried to get rid of as many reblogs that I've made of content regarding Wilbur (and I don't tend to interact with content regarding SMPs as much lately anyway), but as there's so many, I don't know if I'll be able to get rid of all of them. So just a notice if you happen to see any of those reblogs, I do NOT support him in any way, shape or form.

That said, I absolutely support Shubble. I've vaguely known about her for some time, and I plan on getting into her content more now (not just because of this situation, I've been interested in viewing her content for some time now).

I'm a bit emotionally all over the place right now, so that's probably all I'm gonna say on it. I don't know if I'll be interacting with any content regarding the situation other than this post, so yeah.