#do I think every song on there is byler-coded? no
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chirpsythismorning · 11 months ago
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I’m sorry but nothing will ever beat Finn’s drive playlist that he made during s3 filming, with songs like Me and Michael, The Basement, Gay Thoughts and No Woman lmaoooo
#byler#stranger things#in all seriousness#finn has already confirmed he listens to music on the way to set to get in the zone for his character#millie and noah have said when asked that he’s the cast-member most likely to be listening to music on set#do I think every song on there is byler-coded? no#do I think he made it specifically for byler fans to witness and read into? no#but i do think there is a middle ground here#since byler is happening... yeah there are gonna be songs that get him in the zone for byler scenes#and yet there are also probably gonna be songs that he likes rn and wants to use to feel inspo for filming in general#aka plenty of songs just there for the way they sound/the vibes that get him more comfortable getting into character#but then again he also could have made the playlist private to avoid people reading into it#he’s known for years people have seen his playlists and hasn’t made those private either#so I don’t think he cares if ppl read into it#(at least for now...)#but fr that drive playlist still haunts me to this day#i remember when he mentioned listening to music to get in the zone for filming#he specifically mentioned that he listened to it when driving to set and ppl went crazy connecting it to his drive playlist lol#so i mean who knows#maybe he makes the names confusing/random but also sometimes with a hint of truth bc he knows people are gonna deny it or read into it#and he's playing with that possiblity#but i wouldn't die on that hill by any means.#but the drive playlist is why idrc if people read into the STurn one bc i mean....#yeah those songs that sound eerily like mike's emotions in regards to will probably are that way for a reason
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love-byers · 3 months ago
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(same anon that previously sent an ask about the monologue, because writing all this just got me thinking)
Another thing to take note of is that Mike only talks in the past/present tense, but never in the future tense. He says "I've loved you every day since" but never "and I'm going to love you every day for the rest of my life". He's clinging to the past, he's refusing change. There's a line after where he says "And I’m not ready to lose you -- you hear me??". It's just so clear to me. Once he's ready, he can finally grow and allow new and better things to come into his life, and truly come of age. That's the kind of ending I believe is right for the show and those characters in a more general sense anyway.
OMG IVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THE PAST/PRESENT TENSE STUFF THATS SO TRUE
i've always thought that it seemed like both mike and el were clinging to the past. it starts in the s3 epilogue when el says i love you too. its supposed to be taking the next big step in their relationship, maturing and changing. but mike realizes he doesn't want that, he doesn't want things to change. he doesn't want to get more serious with el. he yearns for the past when he was closer with will and didn't have the pressure of growing up and committing to el. and of course the idea of that scares him bc it makes him question the nature of he and will's relationship.
"And I guess...if I'm being really honest...I don't want things to change. So I think maybe that's why I came in here. To try to maybe...stop that change. To turn back the clock. To make things go back to how they were."
i've analyzed the living hell out of this in a byler way, because it is undoubtedly coded towards byler, but i think there is a bit of mileven here too based on what happens in s4. here's some quotes/moments that made me think mike and el were clinging to the past because they know they have no foundation of a future.
"Bitchin' right?" "Yeah, yeah, bitchin'. Do you come here a lot?" mike is so dismissive of her here it's kind of funny
then there's mike bringing her eggos before their fight. he's trying to make peace with a staple from their past, but it doesn't work, because that's not what makes a relationship strong.
"You can't let those mouth breathers ruin you, ruin us." again a reference to a joke/phrase from their past. something they share, or should share. mike feels like saying that will draw them back together. but it fails
"They're nobodies. And you're a superhero." "Not anymore." i feel like this one speaks for itself lol
and the fact that the song playing over their fight is called "Eulogy", a track that plays during scenes referencing dead characters (barb, bob, el (before mike knew she was alive), billy) and metaphorical deaths, like el moving into the cabin with hopper. "This is your new home." it's representing the death of el's old life in the lab, and finding new beginnings. their fight was the death of their relationship, and even mike knows it. a fight you can't come back from.
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conanssummerchild · 1 year ago
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im bored as shit so im going to asign a community person/ship to every conan gray song bcs i really just use this site as a stream of my conciousness, if anyone has a better one for any of them feel free to tell me, also fair warning abed is my fav character, i'll try not to make everything abt him and troy but no promises
grow: the whole final episode really but im thinking mostly jeff tbh or also abed leaving for LA, or even maybe troy leaving on his voyage ☹️
idle town: the 'town' being greendale i feel like this applies to jeff also 😭 like its abt all of them but its jeffs pov
generation why: im thinking my girl britta hehe idk how to explain it but the vibes are so there
crush culture: im thinking annie, but also maybe jeff, aro king 👑
greek god: im thinking maybe abed in high school? i would say annie but she seemed to care more about fitting in while abed had accepted he couldnt, also hes like insightful and observant yk
lookalike: oh my god, brittas pov and its about jeff and slater oof
the other side: troy and abed, specifically in geothermal escapism 😭</3 im killing myself why would i do this
the king: okay fuck this is so trobed coded, abeds pov
comfort crowd: the whole study group tbh <33 in more specifics i was thinking jeff + the study group and honestly abed and annie
wish you were sober: i mean this one has to be either jeff and britta or britta and troy, though troy and britta could be taken either as britta wanting to go party and smoke weed or wtv and troy not rlly doing that stuff or britta feeling rejected bcs of troy giving all his attention to abed 😭 (like as in wish u were sober being wish u werent a raging homosexual)
maniac: probably i'd have to say jeffbritta from either pov
(online love): i... dont know tbh. the vibes are giving annie and troy for some reason, maybe once troys already left?
checkmate: the fond eyeroll i had to give, jeff and britta again. maybe annie being pissed at jeff over their kiss but i dont ship them romantically
the cut that always bleeds: idk, maybe jeff and annies weird ass relationship that keeps fucking happening is the closest, from annies pov
fight or flight: idk tbh, maybe trobed and britta if i had to go with smth, this one is mostly EXTREMELY byler coded (from stranger things) and im never fucking letting that go
affluenza: ok i mean ive gotta give this one to jeff dont i
(can we be friends?): troy abed and annie <3 im so soft for them
heather: ok fuck i HAVE to say trobed and britta and its abeds pov and if we're being specific them in virtual systems analysis becuase i'll never get over this episode ("ive run the simulations, i dont get married :/") bcs i fucking love abed being jealous of britta while she was with troy in the cool way but also in the sad if troy cant love me no one will way
little league: this is troy and abed when troy leaves :(((( and this is canon bcs my beloved wife and i are so troy and abed coded and she loves little league sooo
the story: ok so the boy and the girl are hmm annie and abed, the boy and the boy are troy and abed duh doy, him and his friend are maybe idk britta and troy, i dont wanna say jeff or abed bcs their dad/mum abandoned them and that bit's abt wanting to get away from ur parents yk
fake: (😭) maybe jeff (alan's pov 😔😔💔💔) nah but fr i see people joking abt his song but its lowkey fire
overdrive: WHY DO THEY ALL MAKE ME THINK OF JEFF AND BRITTA
telepath: jeff 😔 and 😔 britta 😔
movies: ok i literally cant say anyone other than abed, the king of movies. im not really feeling troy tho, maybe rachel, like maybe when abed kept trying to super speed run their relationship and he was anxious abt not passing the relationship tests
people watching: the MOST annie coded song ever holy fuck she is so people watching coded i love her so much
disaster: abed. or britta. my abandonment/commitment issues babies <33
best friend: TROBED. THE ONLY BEST FRIENDS EVER
astronomy: would it be absolutely too painful if i said troy and abed. honestly i actually think im feeling more jeff and abed but not like at eachother just both of them together in their sadness, from their pov to someone else (britta and troy probably seeing as these r their main romantic interests)
yours: AHH THIS SONG DEAR GOD </3 can i say abed jesus fuck im killing myself this one for abed hurts so much, not really directed at anyone in specific, or more like just directed at everyone, just his abandonment issues :( ("i dont always see it coming" PUT ME DOWN)
jigsaw: oo britta, my queen she just wants to be loved so bad </3 but also a bit abed ("if being less insane would make you stay" oof)
family line: okay. jeff.he actually invented having daddy issues
summer child: ok its abed bcs i kin him idc, im conans summer child™ and i said so /lh
footnote: not quite sure, very annie coded imo. maybe trobed? either pov ig but im feeling troy
memories: hm, trobed after troy leaves? abed trying to get over him but he keeps imagining troys still there with him like as in one of the hallucinations he has bcs i read a fic like this yesterday and it was sooooo good, idk maybe this is a little far fetched
the exit: im not rlly sure actually, either jeffbritta after the whole i love you in front of anyone fiasco or trobed when troys dating britta 🤷‍♂️
never ending song: ok, jeffbritta.
winner: THE MOST SONG EVER. ok this one is abed. it will always be abed. family line i feel like is more about a hostile home enviroment and jeff implies that his was, while winner is more pain of neglect or disconnect so i feel like its more appliable to abed because of how hes shown to not be understood by his parents and feels responsible for his mother leaving and this makes me think of the line "you dont really wanna hear the truth, do you?" because like his mum loving him on paper but not actually loving who he is or be willing to accept hes different and has different needs FUCK abeds mother all my homies hate abeds mother (what im not projecting at all my parents definitely love me and accept that im autistic /s)
killing me: im not quite sure actually. conan did write this song about someone who gave him tonsilitis and abed cannonically had tonsilitis though so 🤯
lonely dancers: hmm i feel like this song is upbeat enough to be trobed being silly tgth but maybe its more jeffbritta coded, or jeff and abed abt britta and troy, or vice versa, not sure
sorry i never mentioned shirley i do love her
feel free to take any of these as platonic or romantic idrk, a lot of them i couldve meant either way anyway
if u even made it this far u can have a gold star ⭐️ there u go
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castlebyersafterdark · 2 months ago
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I want finn's song Trailers after dark to be about noah how magic would that be? But I do also believe it could be about filmmaking itself. I can totally see Finn writing a love song to an idea or a concept or a way of life, like being an actor - and he seems to love acting as a thing to do and wants to keep pursuing it, or did at the time in 2023. Maybe the imagery of trailers on set at night is something really familiar and romantic to him, a lifestyle he doesnt want to leave. But because of ending stranger things, and therefore his career becoming more volatile like it is for any actor not on a long-term project, I can see him sort of singing a lament to the idea of hoping the industry doesnt abandon him.
The lines that make me narrow my eyes most are 'waiting to be trusted' (if this is the lyric) because it seems specific to the process of being an actor, waiting around for your time to go out and prove that you were worth casting. But its also a line that makes me think it could be connected to noah just because noah also said he was so grateful to have been trusted to do the scenes in s5, and i've watched a lot of actor interviews over the years and it's not something I've ever really heard many people say about their role. It's usually younger actors who are speaking about a big break, or people talking about making a project really close to the heart of the producers and directors. We know ST is that for the duffs, so maybe finn and noah have both been referring to byler and the story itself? i think they would have had conversations about how special it is for the duffers to trust them both with this story.
Really interesting take on this concept! I think it's soooooo enticing and romantic to attribute the song entirely to Noah and how much we want it to be true - especially as he's called it his favorite off the album - but you're onto something here with the poetry and conceptual ideas behind his songwriting. His stuff is very much not meant to be literal, as is with a lot of good song writing, and I think this one interpretation is a great start. Just like the lines in his current single are not literally about some woman "as she sings by the sea" - I saw that attributed to the personification of anxiety. Makes sense!
And song meanings can of course be two fold. The love letter to film and acting, as well as an ode to the boy he grew up filming with and the closeness they share both personally and to to their mutual craft.
Also sooooo funny how everyone harped and freaked out about and was stuck on "in every town there's a darling" as if Finn Wolfhard was truly delivering his indie rock version of "I got hoes in different area codes" when it's so much sweeter and means "there's someone for everyone out there."
Digging deeper 😊😊
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bootsysblog15 · 9 months ago
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what song do you think is the most byler coded?
Tysm for ur ask anon!!
okay ok this is kinda different but I think good luck babe is like a mix of El and wills perspective on this kind of love triangle. I've actually done a byler edit to it that I posted not too long ago if u feel like looking for it on my page
(and picture me by chappell is like will in every fanfic ever)
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wallywise · 1 year ago
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Hey!! It's the byler music fairy!! What are the songs you most associate with byler, Will, and/or Mike, and why??💙💛🎶🎵🧚‍♀️
Oooooh thats a great question that I’m veeery happy to answer to !!! I actually have three playlist on Spotify specifically on this (Byler, Mike and Will)
So bear with me I will try to make it short x’D
Byler
For them the first that come to mind is Heroes by David Bowie no one can convince me that’s it’s not their canon song in the serie, the lyrics are just perfect and I could bet money that they will kiss in season 5 with this music in background “And we kissed as though nothing could fall” it’s just way too perfect. Secondly I associate them a lot with Seven by Taylor Swift, the lyrics are just so perfectly them !! Or even Spark Fly, a lot of Taylor’s song are very byler coded to me- Like I said I have a whole playlist with songs like Daylight by Taylor Swift, Me and Michael by MGMT, The light that never goes out by The Smiths and such, for a long time I could listen to nearly anything and still link it with them x’D
Mike
For him I actually have a few song that I can’t listen to without thinking about him; Tarzan boy by Baltimore and Smalltown Boy by Bronski Beat The first being in the serie and the second on Mike’s official playlist, they’re literally about gay boys trying to live in the 80’s, wishing for liberty and escaping their city to live freely (and find love) These songs are Mike‘s, i do also think about him when listening to songs like Dollhouse by Melanie Martinez, the lyrics really describe the wheeler family, but there’s so much more songs that I can’t add because it would be too much x’D There’s so many song like Michael in the bathroom that I associate with him because if edits
Will
Again for him there’s so many song that I can’t listen to without thinking about him, firstly and obviously Should I stay or should I go by The Clash and Boy’s don’t cry by The cure as the first one is canonically his song and the second very much hinted to be important 👀 so honestly no need to explain those very much except the fact that the lyrics speak by themselves. Secondly I do think A LOT about him listening to nearly every Conan Gray song there’s an invisible link between them I can’t shake off, Heather, Family line, Summer child ??? So Will coded !! And songs like Iris by the goo goo dolls or Elastic heart by Sia ?? ALL TOO WELL BY TS ?! Forever linked to will in my head because if edits and fanfictions 😭
I swear there’s so many songs that remind me of him, of Mike or of both of them I can’t even start to list it, those two gays really rot my brain for so long that every song was a byler song if I tried hard enough (most of the time I didn’t even try I just listened and “oh very ____ coded” and that for monthhhs, now it’s not the same anymore as I have more diverse interest and I think of diverse characters listening to music but I swear there’s so many song that could have been written for them 😭🫶
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bmissyb · 7 months ago
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Somebody to love is Will Byers coded
HEAR ME OUT (again)
Somebody to love by Jefferson Airplane would definitely be a perfect song for Will if he gets venca'd. It is also very byler coded.
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"When the truth is found to be lies"
This can be seen as a reference to the ONLY time Will lies to Mike in 04x08 in the van about the painting. Also could be about any of the lies that people told Will (or even possibly some secrets that might come to light in s5)
"All the joy within you dies"
Will literally has 20,000 reasons why he should be sad, the kid went through literal hell, I don't think there's much of an explanation needed.
"Don't you want somebody to love... You better find somebody to love"
When Will says "I'm not gonna fall in love..." (LIAR)
He's in love with Mike, obviously, and him needing to confess but instead lying to himself, El, and Mike is constantly eating away at him. Thus, "[if you don't] find somebody to love" Vecna will win.
"When the garden flowers... are dead... and your mind is full of red"
SEASON 4 LAST EPISODE WITH THE DEAD FLOWERS AT HAWKINS AND WILL TOUCHES HIS NECK BECAUSE THE MIND FLAYER/ VECNA IS BACK AT IT!!!!!!!
"And your mind is full of red, don't you want somebody to love"
Honestly, the "mind full of red" is about Will being possessed/ being targeted (or even getting venca'd since the upside down turns red.) And who was there by his side every. single. minute. when he was possessed? MIKE. Mike being there for Will is what helped him go through all of this (and OBV Joyce and Jonathan, I'm not ignoring them.)
Love is what helps people survive venca.
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"Your eyes may look like his"
When Will was possessed, his eyes stayed the same except of the colour. He stayed physically the same other than his eyes.
"But in your head... You don't know where it is... Don't you want somebody to love"
Will being possessed, loosing his mind and memories. He needed the people he loved to snap him back to reality with facts and good memories.
"Tears are running down... all running down your breast"
Will has always been "a sensitive kid" and was infamous for it. We still see it shine in s4, it's a part of himself that he can't get rid of but has to cope with. Male sensitivity was definitely looked down on in the 80s, especially in small conservative towns like Hawkins. Will would definitely see himself in these lyrics (it's also a perfect target point for venca.)
Running. My theory is that all "Vecna songs" are gonna have something to do with running one way or another (I need Mike's song to be small town boy SO bad.)
"Your friends treat you like a guest"
It's sad but true. Will was always different from all the other members of the party, especially in s3 (and s4 because he moved,) and has felt left out. Mike was the only one who got him, who didn't treat him like a freak or baby.
Mike and is the one Will needs to love (openly) to survive venca.
(Mike needs to show his love for Will to survive venca too and break the chains of internal homophobia caused by living in a small, conservative town... SMALL TOWN BOY)
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campbyler · 2 years ago
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HELLOOO firstly CHAPTER 4 WAS SO GOOD HELP IT HAD ME BUSHING MORE THAN ANY IRL PERSON COULD EVER BE CAPABLE OF. There was a lil sentence that was like ‘for some reason it had a lightswitch at each bunk, Mike supposes its practical.’ AND I WAS LIKE 🤭i think i know where this is going🤭 BUT IT WASNT THEM KISSING?! IT WAS NOT THEM FULLY HAVING A MAKE-OUT SESH WHILE SWOON BY BEACH WEATHER PLAYS. I didnt enjoy it any less tho 🤭 i was texting my friend like 👹GO READ IT. GO READ IT ITS SO GOOD.👹
Secondly when i say that IM GOING INSANE OVER THIS FIC i mean that im going ����CRAY👏ZIE👏 LIKE WHAT DO YOU MEAN THEY KISSED WHEN THEY WERE THIRTEEN?! DID THEY JUST KISS ON THE DOWNLOW?! DID THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP?! IS THAT WHERE THE RIVALRY COMES FROM?! WHAT DOES IT MEAN 😭 WHY DO THEY BOTH HAVE ISSUES WOTH FEARLESS BY TAYLOR SWIFT?? DID SOMETHING HAPPEN?? IS IT A CASUAL COINCIDENCE?! HELP- i have no braincells left floating around THEYRE ALL CAPTURED BY THE ASTOUNDING WORK THAT IS THIS FIC 🫡
When will someone prey on MY neurodivergence and propensity for liking kissing and being kissed and partaking in the all-around act of kissing 😭 (im aroace so i dont even like kissing or being kissed OR partaking in the all-around act of kissing BUT IM STAYING DELULU 🫡)
Also figure you out by djo being in the playlist was such a pleasant surprise cause its one of my favorite songs AND ALSO i listened to it recently, said to myself ‘hey this is kinda acswy byler coded 😌’ AND THEN FORGOT ABOUT IT?? 🤦‍♀️ so thanks for reminding me about the acswy byler coding of it, it’ll be (even more) on repeat now 🙏 LIVE LAUGH LOVE DJO ✊
Anyways I luv this fic so so much (if you hadnt noticed yet lol) its consuming my every waking thought (im so normal.) I HOPE U GUYS ARE DOING WELL!! 🫶🫶
THKANK YOU FOR THIS MONSTER COMMENT I WAS SO DELIGHTED TO SEE THIS COME IN!!!!!! let me try to answer appropriately 💪
LOL i think when i wrote that in (because the kiss scene was the first part written of ch04/acswy in general) andi commented on it like HEHEHEHE as well! we'd been vocal about the parent trap references before so i think it was a nice easter egg to put in there! there were definitely some people who knew the kiss was coming but maybe not a full blown make out while swoon by beach weather plays in the background 💘
i will remain silent on all of the intricacies of mike and will's 13 year old kissing and the fearless lore BUT i can at least reiterate what ch04 confirmed: they have kissed before! they were 13! it was mike's first kiss! at this time, i cannot confirm or deny that it was will's first kiss as well!
loving the way this neurodivergent line is probably the standout of ch04 because when i initially wrote it, it was definitely somewhat of a joke -- and then suni and andi said NO LEAVE THAT IN and it's everyone's favorite HAHA
ok thank you SO much for saying that about figure you out because it was the one song on the playlist i wasn't sure about! i think that it fits so well lyrically, but sonically i wasn't super sure, and then suni yelled at me so it stayed on and i'm glad because i also love it! glad you pegged it as an acswy song before it even got put on the official playlist!!
thank you again for your comment!! we are obsessed with you!!!!!!
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cringengl · 1 year ago
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Hey!! It's the byler music fairy!! What are the songs you most associate with byler, Will, and/or Mike, and why??
(sorry for the lack of emojis... your askbox wouldn't let me add them D:)
aaaaahhhhh I have a couple of these haha
for byler, my fave songs for them i have is fly out west by yot club, which is literally s4 byler. like mike literally flies out west at the start of s4?? lmao. there's also lyrics like
Well, tell me, do you know?
You're all I dream about
Take it from me, I'm too dumb to recognize your doubt
Well, I don't wanna go
I'm in too far to leave
Tell me how you live so easily, young and naive
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Talk bad, who's that?
Walk back to your place
I think you fake that smile that's on your face
which could honestly apply to both will and mike, one being all the other dreams about and being jealous about how naive they are, and also both of them faking their smiles, mike because of his failing relationship with el and will pretending to be ok with it.
ok so for the second one is true blue by boygenius, and although the title screams will as the chorus says that the love is 'true blue', which is obviously mike's colour, there's a bunch of lyrics that connect to both of them.
lyrics from mike's pov:
You can't help but become the sun - will has a bunch of light symbolism throughout the series, especially in the last ep where the light shines directly onto will from mike's pov
When you moved to Chicago, you were spinning out
When you don't know who you are, you fuck around and find out
When you called me from the train, water freezing in your eyes
You were happy and I wasn't surprised
i can totally see mike thinking that will was happier and trying new things in lenora without him, especially after the lies el told mike in her letters and then mike being a little upset about it.
this part is from will's pov:
Now you're moving in, breaking a sweat on your upper lip
And getting pissed about humidity and the leaky faucet- digging the grave for unnamed hero agent guy haha and creating el's mind fight bath
You already hurt my feelings three times
In the way only you could- it's not my fault you don't like girls, the lack of letters/calls when will was in lenora, and the rink-o-mania fight
You've never done me wrong
Except for that one time that we don't talk about
Because it doesn't matter anymore
Who won the fight?
I don't know, we're not keeping score
these lyrics also have major it's not my fault you don't like girls vibes.
and then finally from both of their povs:
But it feels good to be known so well
I can't hide from you like I hide from myself
I remember who I am when I'm with you
Your love is tough, your love is tried and true blue
Ooh-ooh
this is major painting scene vibes, with both will and mike feeling understood by the other, and not hiding from eachother.
finally, to finish this super long post off, here's a song that is soooo mike wheeler coded that literally every lyric can be applied, forever dumb, by surf curse. it's all mike's pov
I would run away from you, if I could
Never really wanted to, but I guess I should run - the first two lines obviously correlate to will and how mike feels about him leading to him wanting to run from him
I would fall in love with you, but I can't
It's too hard, maybe we'll just pretend- the next two lines are about his relationship with el lmao
But it's hard when I don't know what to do
I'm angry and I'm tired and confused
I got so many thoughts stuck in my head
And none of them make much sense- big big big mike vibes
I said I would follow you, but I lied
Don't be mad
Well, at least I tried- 'follow you' is both related to crazy together as well as mike's relationship with el
I never had a spot for you in my life
Which was true
Till I heard you cry- mike meeting el for the first time and taking her in or byler meeting at the swingset
And your tears dripped down your face into my eyes- either the van scene or el telling mike that he never said i love you
I'm sorry and I hate myself this time
Cause I got so many thoughts stuck in my head
And none of them
Make much sense
anyway, tysm for the ask!! (this was my reminder to change my anon settings haha)
here are the three songs!!!
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oboes-bos-hoes · 2 years ago
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The byler brainrot is real and taking over, so let me share some lyrics from my fave songs that give me byler vibes
links for the songs will be at the end of the post
"Holding hands while the walls come tumbling down, when they do, I'll be right behind you" - Everybody wants to rule the world by Tears for Fears
(this is gonna be a long post)
"I'd die at the thought of the loss of your heart" - Love is reason by a-ha
"I'd never mean to hurt you, baby, I'm not that kind of man; I might not say I'm sorry, yeah, I might talk tough sometimes, and I might forget the little things, or keep you hanging on the line" - I'd die for you by Bon Jovi
"Something happens and I'm head over heels, I never find out until I'm head over heels" - Head over heels / broken by Tears for Fears
"I've done all I can do, all the letters I've sent through; put my life in the palms of your hands, maybe now you can see, that it's got to be me, but if you leave me, I'll understand" - You are the one by a-ha (THIS LINE IS LIKE. SO MIKE WHEELER CODED??)
"Turn in my sleep, a bad dream is over, think of you and shall I ever recover?" - I want to wake up by Pet shop boys
(fun fact, the lead singer of pet shop boys, Neil Tennant, is gay :D)
(this means theres gonna be a lot of songs from them in here bc gay boi in the 80s??) (also they r my fav band/pop duo(?) so. )
'It's mad, to be in love with someone else, when you're in love with he, she's in love with me, but you know as well as I do I can never think of anyone but you" - I want to wake up by Pet shop boys (this is kinda jumbled but if u kind of like. pretend that it makes sense for byler then it makes sense so go away)
"To fall in love, is it so uncool?" - I want to wake up by Pet shop boys ("i'm not.. gonna fall in love")
"Every time I see you something happens to me, like a chain reaction, between you and me, my heart starts missing a beat" - Heart by Pet shop boys
"If I didn't love you, I would look around for someone else, but every time I see you, you have the same effect, my heart starts missing a beat, my heart starts missing a beat, every time" - Heart by Pet shop boys
"Every time I see you, no matter what we do, there's a strange reaction, can you feel it too?" - Heart by Pet shop boys
"I don't care whether it's wrong or right, I want a lover tonight" - I want a lover by Pet shop boys
"Put your arms around me, it doesn't mean you love me, just that you want me and you need my company" - I want a lover by Pet shop boys (ok Micheal we get it, its just a hug)
"I'll never let you see, the way my broken heart is hurting me, I've got my pride and I know how to hide all my sorrow and pain, i'll do my crying in the rain" - Crying in the rain by a-ha (i'll do my crying in the van rain)
"And you think love is to pray, but I'm sorry I don't pray that way" - Tainted love by Soft Cell
"But now you're leaving... How many hearts must you break? How many calls must I make? But now you're leaving... In this world, all that I choose has come unbearable, but love is in your touch, ooh, it's killing me so much, only when you leave I need to love you" - Only when you leave - Spandau ballet
"Yeah she's my man" - She's my man by Sigue Sigue Sputnik (mike wheelerr) (i'll let u figure this out, i dont wanna try make a whole point here)
"You always wanted me to be something I wasn't" - What have i done to deserve by Pet shop boys (everytime i hear this lyric i get so sad)
welp that is it for noowww but feel free to reblog with ur fav byler coded lyrics :)
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ONLY 10 AUDIOS PER POST?????? WHY?? THATS SO DUMB WTF TUMBLR
last one is She's My Man by Sigue Sigue Sputnik
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sterlingarcher23 · 2 years ago
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What do you think the most compelling piece of evidence is for elmax endgame?
There's actually a bunch of individual evidence pieces.
Blue hair tie and yellow watch - Blue and Yellow is used to signal love, mostly romantic or strong platonic love, it's not a color combination solely reserved for Byler.
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It also connects Max through El with Hopper - that's the platonic element since I believe Hopper might actually be Max's biological father - and through Hopper we have the "Lovergirl" clue, song that "plays in his head" after he finds the girls in El's room.
The Coke bottle: "Until you find something that feels like you". - El finds the Coke bottle under her bed then thinking about Max. In Max's mind it's the Coke bottle pointing to El, pushing away the memory of Lucas (his place isn't the mind but reality). This dialog in the shopping scene also has several meanings that scream ElMax in every way too.
Same with Max able to free herself and attack V: it's the memory of El, the High-fiving that echoes even outside of her memories. This has a parallel with Byler in S2 in which Mike touching Will's hand enables Will to overcome the possession partially use his hand to signal a message.
Then they decided to use a blood stain on El's shirt in a heart shape on the right side of her chest in Vol2, mirroring both Max's heart and both their couple accessories which are a very stable wardrobe choice.
Them wearing Yellow & Red / Mustard and Ketchup which is code for dating someone secretly.
I could point out that Robin's coming out was essentially a proxy monologue describing El's actual, although subconscious feelings the first time she saw Max.
Then the time jump sequence from Back to the Future been used/reproduced in the shopping scene, showing them after the time jump that will happen in S5.
The writers pointing out Korrasami and how the show copies moments of that show.
And of course:
The whole Neverending Story song which is essentially describing certain plot elements of their story. "And there upon a rainbow is the answer to a Neverending Story" - the brilliant kaleidoscope of colors that reappears, is drawn by El repeatedly and is as a light flare on Max's face.
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There are other elements like their reunion, the window drawing, El not afraid of the cracking of thunder when she's with Max in opposition to her reaction in S1 without anyone at her side, the "Princess Diana/Wonder Woman comic read" etc etc. all of that are pieces of one big puzzle.
That pretty much sums it up. There's just not THE evidence. There's a lot. But then there's my own intuition: I figured out how they solve the problem they created and after that I understood why and it made me cry....then I knew it's the right thing.
It is as David Harbor said bc he knows what's basically going to happen because he knows Hopper's arc "Quite moving and beautiful"
Everyone understands this just as Byler-proof but completely overlooks that Hopper's story is closely tied to El. (BTW ignoring El in this regard and therefore Max, although there's real evidence in the show that connects them with Hopper is in my opinion pure ignorance.)
But you made me think that I could try to make a complete post about these elements. Although this is kinda of a post itself, I think I better make a separate one.
I just recently found something amazing through the 3 Musketeer's chocolate bar.
So: stay tuned everyone.
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eightfifteen · 2 years ago
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hi i saw u listened to the New btr album (so real btw) and i would like to know ur Thoughts if u would like to share 😁
Of course! I've been listening to it all morning and am liking it more with each listen.
General opinion: i really like how they mesh everyone's voices in this album - it definitely feels like everyone's voices are utilised equally and they definitely feel more like an adhesive group because of it. I think that's also represented in the album art because instead of having James and Kendall in the middle and Logan and Carlos on the sides, they're equally divided over the album. idk if that makes sense but I really enjoy it.
They feel more mature and with a more current sound, which is to be expected, but they still feel like them.
My favorite songs so far are Weekends (actually this one might be the most Byler coded - Can you just let me know? why you're so hot or cold? i want to know the reason, you only call me on the weekend. either love me or let me go!!), Ask You Tonight (duh Byler coded but it also genuinely makes me cry more every time i listen to it. it just sounds so pretty), Another Life (Mike coded, soooo pretty), Brand New (i always love it when James comes in with a solo i love his voice), and Forget You Now (also Byler coded).
Overall, I like the new songs even more than the previously released singles so I'm definitely pleasantly surprised.
What do you think?
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light-lanterne · 2 years ago
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Hi hi Angel!! 💗
Incoming with some questions for the fanfic ask game:
15. How do you come up with titles for your fics/chapters?
18. What's your favourite line you've written so far?
20. What's a favourite title for a fic you've written?
hi soso ! sorry it took me a couple days to reply,,, you know how it is u.u anyway, let's get to it !!
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15. how do you come up with titles for your fics/chapters?
ah, titles are the last thing i think about tbh x.x i usually pick song titles / lyrics or random pretty words i find within the last five minutes before posting something :O
18. what's your favourite line you've written so far?
as most of the things i share here, i haven't posted the chapter this belongs to. it's from "the trees are going restless", though (aka, my most dramatic mike): "and perhaps mike was falling prey to apophenia; an incidental pattern, a made-up connection that didn't quite make logical sense, his perception turned askew to fuel his wrongful devotion. but, as it stood, it felt like the most ineffable truth, the simplest way to understand the reality he'd chosen to exist within: everything good in mike's life, every happy memory he ever had, could all be traced back to the presence of a certain will byers in his life. even when will hadn't been there, even when mike was the sole artificer behind his goals or success, he felt like he owed it all to will's unbreaking faith in him."
20. what's a favourite title for a fic you've written?
hmm, it belongs to another fandom (and the story has since been deleted for ~reasons~), but i once posted a story with a title that was all in morse code and i think that's pretty neat :] for byler fics, i think i like "anthropophagy" or "telomeres" the most :O they're just cool words ~
and that's it, thank you so much for the questions !! these were fun :] hope you're having a great day ~ <3
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castlebyersafterdark · 3 months ago
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It just hit me, I’m Not in Love by 10cc & Take My Breath Away by Berlin might be the most Byler-coded songs ever. The lyrics sound almost like Mike wrote them himself.
(I saw you guys were talking about songs for Byler at one point, so I thought I’d share my thoughts)
I'm not in love, 10 cc
https://youtube.com/shorts/GR1oPFDJfP4?si=Kmp9KDQMwTE_we-V
I'm not in love, so don't forget it It's just a silly phase I'm going through And just because I call you up Don't get me wrong, don't think you've got it made I'm not in love, no, no (It's because) I'd like to see you, but then again That doesn't mean you mean that much to me So if I call you, don't make a fuss Don't tell your friends about the two of us I'm not in love, no, no (It's because) (Be quiet) (Big boys don't cry) I keep your picture upon the wall It hides a nasty stain that's lying there So don't you ask me to give it back I know you know it doesn't mean that much to me I'm not in love, no, no (It's because) Ooh, you'll wait a long time for me Ooh, you'll wait a long time
Take My Breath Away, Berlin
https://youtu.be/4_kfU28v-yA?si=rQCP4AVAjRGt6WnV
Watching every motion in my foolish lover's game On this endless ocean, finally lovers know no shame Turning and returning to some secret place inside Watching in slow motion as you turn around and say Take my breath away Take my breath away Watching, I keep waiting, still anticipating love Never hesitating to become the fated ones Turning and returning to some secret place to hide Watching in slow motion as you turn to me and say My love Take my breath away Through the hourglass, I saw you Each time you slipped away When the mirror crashed, I called you And turned to hear you say If only for today, I am unafraid Take my breath away
The fact that both are 80s classics makes for a perfect mixtape for Michael. I can totally picture him rewinding those tracks on his Walkman on repeat. A perfect self-insert songs.
I love both of these songs!!! They're both really good 80s songs and already on my Byler playlist! 😁😁😁 Totally on the Mike Wheeler -> Will Byers mixtape.
Ooooh we should as a sleepover activity come up with the ultimate Byler era-accurate mixtape!! I keep wanting to do it and forgetting, my playlist is music from all over the place and it's a mess. We need a really solid mixtape list Will made for Mike and one that Mike made for Will. Project! Like I need another heehee. Suggestions totally welcome...
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demadogs · 2 years ago
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finn is not "dropping byler hints" (we don't need more hints to know it's endgame) but he is a huge byler shipper and a blue meets yellow enjoyer, thereforehe is having fun wearing these colors. i don't know why some of youse are so wary about understanding the whole cast truly is very excited about byler and loves this specific storyline. you don't have to be so cautious, these people have known about it since at least season 3. it's fine to observe and admit they clearly enjoy it as much as we do. i don't understand the need to be so wary about that. it's pretty clear
obviously he and the whole cast are excited about byler but i think some of you guys treat the actors with the same level of analysis as you do the characters. colors the characters wear are definitely intentional because theres an entire section of workers just for costume design. but i think some people need to realize that in real life people just wear whatever they want for whatever reason.
he may just like the color yellow. and as @paladin-n-cleric pointed out, blue and yellow are complimentary colors they look nice together. not EVERY thing is about byler. we’re not talking about a niche song from the 80s thats associated with byler that finn brought up or something specific like that, its COLORS!!!! hes bound to wear or be around the colors yellow and blue at some point.
in that one interview when he knew immediately the code was “blue meets yellow in the west” yes, he probably knew that part because of byler. but just wearing a cozy yellow sweater (that i really want by the way its so cute) probably isnt related at all to byler.
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conanssummerchild · 2 years ago
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finallly analising this jdskdjsksj
okay so to start off, the song summer child is pretty much about a person who is hurting, who's struggling but people dont notice, just to summarise it very very quickly. there is so much more to the song tho, and i'll get into that now.
and disclaimer in case i make someone mad, im not saying that mike fits every word of the song, this isnt even rlly an analisis, more of like a silly thing i decided to make so no one come for me 😭 i am interested in hearing ur opinions tho
so anyway, conan starts the song with the lyrics
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so with that first line hes saying smth like you see beauty even when there is none, or even when no one else does and in s1 yk how mike is tho only one who wants el to stick around, yeah. also when theyre getting bullied by troy and he says to dustin that he thinks its cool, like he has a superpower like the x men or smth (cant quite remember it)
anyway i dont have much to say abt line two but with all the shit they went thru with the upside down, its hard to imagine he wouldnt be at least a little afraid of the dark at night (also when i was little i was rlly scared of the dark and i kin mike so what i say goes /j)
(TW SELF HARM) i rlly cant say much abt the next line without turning this into projection central, but what i take from this line is conan talking abt self harm, i rlly dont know if this could b interpreted any other way tho? anyway its not that i think mike hurts himself, and there is no evidence in the show claiming he does (at least none that i know of, if there is tell me so i can project harder) but one time back when i got sent to therapy (and refused to talk to my therapist abt anything but mike wheeler) she tried to get deep w me and told me that a lot of people self harmed because they bottled up their feelings so much that in the end that was the only release they could get or theyd like explode, smth abt ppl who felt too much too big. ngl i dont rlly remember but honestly thats so mike wheeler if u ask me (what my therapist said)
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ok so this is what i meant when i said not everything fit exactly, bcs while i dont think ted is a good father, i also dont think hes 'mean' in the way i think conan means it
green = byler. mindblowing ik /s
anyway the last two lines i feel like are less abt someone specifically running through sprinklers on their street and more about how when u were younger things were more simple and imo an important part of mikes arc is how he tries to make himself grow up faster, only to later mourn the better days that he lost and it was his fault, and if u ask me this part of his arc has to do with neurodivergency and maski- [GUNSHOTS]
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ok and so we get to the part that made me start to think mike was summer child coded, mikes whole little pretense game he has going on, hiding parts of himself he feels arent good enough for people to see, how people have ignored and dismissed his feelings so many times to the point that he just gives up on trying to talk about them, how he struggles with his depression (yes i am a therapist i can officially diagnose him /j) but still puts so much time and effort into helping other people, he's selfless to a fault, to the point that hes hurting himself more than anything else.
how theres always a part of him in the dark, never quite revealed to the audience, portraying how he never fully reveals it to his friends.
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so once again i'll mention how ppl have always dismissed and ignored mikes concerns and struggles to the point where he starts to just keep it to himself, and acts angry or grumpy when rlly there is so much more brewing under the surface he just doesnt think he deserves for someone to care, or even just directly thinks they dont care anyway
and ive tried to stay mostly partial so far and not bring up will or mikes sexuality, but in the end i think him being gay is an important part of his arc and definitely present in his struggles and the second to last line makes me think of will being shown to be like mikes sun (his heart ;)) and how hes keeping up a pretense about the way he really feels both about will and el to everyone but himself (no i dont think hes clueless ._.)
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so this is actually the part that made me make the original post bcs hello?? the first three lines, did conan just literally write this song about mike wheeler?? mikes self sacrificial nature is something that comes up repeatedly, whether you want to acknowledge it or not. that boy would do anything for his friends, and im not even gonna get into the cliff scene bcs we'd be here all night. but like i was saying, the rest of the lines reference how mike sees the beauty in things others dont, EXCEPT when it comes to himself.
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yeah, when it comes to himself he won't see the best parts of himself, only the bad, its up to a bystander (will?? the audience? mikes self concious, or is that too far-fetched?) to quietly observe the way hes falling apart
anyway slay that was bad and long and also excuse any spelling mistakes and incoherency its like 1 in the morning where i live so im analising mike wheeler, as any sane person would. once again, this isnt a proper analisis just something i pulled out of my ass so idk
@apocalyptic-byler no pressure to read this nonsense but u said youd b interested and i said id tag u so here it is lol
Mike Wheeler is so very summer child coded. There, I said it.
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