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According to the myths I've read, the real painful part of Diarmuid's elopement with Grainne was the breaking of his oath of fealty. He was caught between a rock and a hard place, but the vow of the geis itself was more pressing. That's where he gets the social stigma and constant guilt and anguish, not the part where he actually married Grainne and had five children with her. In fact, in myths set before he meets Grainne, Diarmuid beds almost every woman who propositions him, be they human or supernatural, pretty or ugly, and sometimes he does it out of sheer pity (which is the origin of his love spot).
Diarmuid didn't plan on sleeping with Grainne when he first took her away, and actually having a relationship wasn't included in the geis. He actually laid out unbroken bread and uncooked fish at all of his campgrounds so Fionn would know he and Grainne were chaste. However, when Fionn insults him every time he catches up to Diarmuid, Diarmuid proceeds to make out with Grainne just to piss off Fionn. And then there's also the episode where a giant wins Grainne off of Diarmuid in a board game, so Diarmuid attacks him, only for Grainne to stab him in the leg because she's so frustrated over how he refuses to be intimate with her that she'd rather go with the giant. And after that they end up reconciling, and when they set out again, water splashed against Grainne's thighs and she lamented that Diarmuid didn't even have the courage of the water, leading to him getting down and dirty with her right then and there.
It's a story of mythological people behaving very (by modern standards) badly, and comes in several different versions with differing details, but I think Diarmuid did start out feeling some measure of lust for Grainne, and then decided to give into that lust out of anger against Fionn. He also developed enough emotional intimacy with Grainne to get jealous and try to win her back from the giant, including cooking her favorite meal. Toward the end of the Pursuit, they're hiding up in a tree, Grainne has pregnancy cravings for berries guarded by a giant, and Diarmuid is her "yes dear" henpecked husband.
I know that the idea of love potions / love spells / etc taking agency away from the characters in courtly romance style legends is a way of retaining their moral purity while allowing them to engage in adultery and betrayal and the like -- their love is outside of their control! They're still good people, they just can't help themselves!! -- but I legitimately can not fathom how little discussion I can find about that trope regarding Diarmuid and Grainne, because while Diarmuid's agency is completely revoked -- not only is he forced to be with Grainne, but he's punished for it by his liege and treated as an outlaw -- Grainne's is very pointedly not.
Some varieties even portray her "acceptance" of Finn's proposal as being because of his status (i.e. she's effectively treated as a gold-digger who, upon seeing Diarmuid, decides to throw her pursuit of status in the trash and force Diarmuid to run away with her by drugging his whole company and putting him under a geis. Not even like. . . a love spell or a potion or something to instill him with feeling, but literally just a magic command.) And there is probably more merit to this than there would be if the story were from the mainland -- there's a lot more Independent Women in irish mythic structures than in english or greek ones, for example.
The most charitable interpretation I've seen is that she was victim to his love spot, nursing feelings for him for a long time, betrothed against her will to someone too old for her who just so happened to bring her crush along, and her geis was only for Diarmuid to rescue her from Finn, but I still haven't actually seen reference to Diarmuid having feelings for her outside of her baiting him into bedding her many years into their life of crime.
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women want him.

boars hate him.

#artbabble-tm#fate/zero#diarmuid ua duibhne#Grainne come get yo man be boutta die face down ass up and that’s not how he expected that geas to go
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Another day another picture of Diarmuid being traumatized by Grainne

This is not Fionn, but a part of Diarmuid's mind speaking.
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#OTD in Irish History | 29 November:
In the Liturgical Calendar today is the Feast Day of Saint Brendan of Birr (died circa 572). He was one of the early Irish monastic saints. He was a monk and later an abbot, of the 6th century. He is known as ‘St Brendan the Elder’ to distinguish him from his contemporary and friend St Brendan the Navigator of Clonfert. He was one of the Twelve Apostles of Ireland, a friend and disciple of Saint…

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#irelandinspires#irishhistory#OTD#29 November#Benwisken#Co. Sligo#Diarmuid and Grainne’s cave#Grange#History#History of Ireland#Ireland#Irish Civil War#Irish History#Today in Irish History
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Finally! I want to read a Pursuit version where Grainne received the bad ending she rightfully deserved.
I think Fionn is also in the wrong but at least he got his bad end in the original tales, while some people sympathize and even get defensive when anyone criticise Grainne, when she was abusive (and even sexually harassed Diarmuid in some versions) I stand by my point that Diarmuid never loved Grainne. He might have come to care for her, but it came from trauma bonding, and trauma bonding is not love. Really looking forward to read your AUs (if you publish them)
Top 5 AUs of whatever you have cooking, whether they are in fics or just floating ideas :3c
HMMMMMMMM SOMEONE IS TRYING TO SNOOP I SEE UWU /j these are all FGO AUs because my Star Wars AU is honestly still killing me orz I have so many ideas but I can't get them arranged right for it [I wanna bring in Hondo IMMEDIATELY he is SO FUN but I have to make it make sense...] and Star Wars fans SCARY X'D
The Pursuit of Diarmuid and Grainne AU:
So this AU is one I don't honestly know if I'll ever finish all the way or publish. Mainly because while I've read several Pursuits now, there's a lot of other mythos knowledge I need and it's hard to find non-Anglicized sources for me??? Unless anyone has a resource to share dfxcghv it started from my love of Diarmuid from FGO and all of Tea's really good Diarmuid and Fionn headcanons and a specific fic of theirs, Oh, Darling, You Can Stop Drowning that got me realizing that yeah The Pursuit being portrayed as a tragic romance....when one party held all the power via magical curse and the other just. Was forced along. Yeah...BUT that's another reason I probably won't post it in the end; the entire thing is built up on Tea's headcanons, so it also feels like it's not really my right to write it or post it. I'm mostly writing it out to read myself because I just,,,,need the serotonin,,, dfgv
Anyway. Main differences in this AU:
-Fionn is not attending the engagement because he is engaged to Grainne, but because it would be an insult not to attend. I haven't decided if he simply didn't express interest or if Sadhbh is still alive in this AU [basically just making it an entire mythos au not just a pursuit one]. If it's the latter it adds another layer because uh yeah Sadhbh is also mad her husband's dearest friend got stolen away and she would like to know Grainne's location as well thank you Very much.
-Diarmuid leaves pretty clear signs that it wasn't a willing departure WHICH IT WASN'T IN THE FIRST PLACE he actually, in one version I found, tries to throw her off several times [and this is AFTER Grainne already tried and failed to make a pass at Oisin and maybe also Oscar in the version I saw, can't remember], but he pretty desperately tries to wake Fionn in this one, both out of concern for his friend and then realizing what is about to happen. Not a huge difference I'm just rambling now sdfxghcv
-When Fionn wakes up from the sleeping draught he sees that Diarmuid is gone and Immediately knows Grainne did something bcus Diarmuid mentioned her Attention earlier in the story. Following a HC of Tea's, this Pursuit is, rather than a "Dude that was MY fiance", a "RETURN. MY BEST FRIEND. TO ME. RIGHT. NOW." Pursuit.
-Undecided how I want it to end; if they make it the full seven years and somehow??? Diarmuid returns to Fionn after???? If Fionn catches up and Diarmuid can't calm him down and he kills Grainne,,,which is INSTANT POLITICAL RAMIFICATIONS bad ending,,,,if he catches up prior to the full seven years and somehow???? Breaks the geis???
ULTIMATELY doesn't matter since it'll prob just be for me to read BUT it's one that has consumed my brain sfdg
2. Vinyl Destination [named by Ye uwu] Avenger Agenda/Saliama AU! LESBIAN TRANS COMPOSERS T4T LESBIANS HELL YEAHHHHHHH LESBIAN POLYCULE IN GENERAL I've mentioned this one to you plenty I'm sure but, Salieri who leaves the classical world that will never accept her and she goes to purposefully try and make herself a laughingstock by starting a punk metal band, a failure, etc etc so that she can. Well. Feel justified let's put it that way. BUT INSTEAD they ROCKET up the charts and suddenly she has to keep living, has to keep going.
During all of this Mozart is still in the closet and doing her best to break free but still stay safe with her father constantly watching every move. It started as an au where Mozart is in classical and Salieri punk, covering each other's songs to annoy each other how did it end up like this HOW DID IT END UP LIKE THIS anyway it's Salieri/Dantes/Jalter [all ladies] with Salieri also dating Mozart [lady] and Jalter also dating Boudica [lady].
3. So this one has NOTHING written down about it anywhere at all, but Fairy Knight Bedivere AU. And by Fairy Knight I don't mean like the FGO ones I mean it in the sense of like. Magic Knight Rayearth. He has a pact with Fou [who can change sizes, sometimes he is Fou sizze sometimes he is mount size sometimes he is HUGE] and they just...travel together and help people. Low stakes, probably set after an apocalypse so I can get some fun post-apocalyptic shit in there, as Enrichment. Could possibly involve some BediTris because that's my main ship for him, but could also just be a gen little fic/series about Bedivere and Fou saving the world one person at a time.
4. Arguably my WEIRDEST most cracky AU is the Hatoful Boyfriend Salierik AU. This was originally started for the Dead Dove day of Rarepair week, bcus I legit started that week with FOUR PAIRINGS. Anyway I thought it would be funny to make a pun with Dead Dove bcus,,,Hatoful Boyfriend,,,Erik is a murderous Magpie and Salieri is a massive vulture constantly in pain bcus the virus didn't mutate his family right. The Dead Dove is also literal bcus it's hatoful boyfriend so you know it's got murder, teeeeeechnical cannibalism bcus one character is killed for her bones????, some fun little gaslighting, etc etc
Just an AU for me to lelt Erik be a funky freaky little murder birb [all for his darling Salieri ofc] this is like 50% because I thought it would be funny 50% I asked Wolfie enough questions that I Gotta do it now XD It's partly written but has a lot of gaps.
5. Unrequited Fionndiar hanahaki AU. ONCE AGAIN NO ONE IS SURPRISED this started with a Tea headcanon, linking it from when I reblogged it bcus some of my thoughts are spewed into the tags dfzsxvg anyway the whole reason why this is especially fun is, as it alludes to there, Diarmuid, in the myths where he DOES die, has one fated death at the hands of his brother who was turned into a boar. This is because Donn killed someone's kid btw so then that was just. Placed upon Diarmuid and his brother's heads.
SO ANYWAY he has to die that way, and any other deadly injury he just bounces back from. So he contracts lungflower [Tea's thought on an alt name], and he Immediately knows what it is and who it's for. Cue Diarmuid desperately trying to hide it, growing proficient at swallowing down petal and stem and thorn until he is alone and it forces its way back up, trying to keep Fionn from suspecting anything because Fionn would damn himself to unhappiness if it means saving Diarmuid pain.
And he learns how to hide it, how to manage it, everything he needs. but eventually he DOES die. And FIonn finds him, as he is dying, and Diarmuid is trying to desperately swallow flowers but Fionn forces his mouth open to pour water into and. Well. He knows who they're for, because Diarmuid never made his feelings secret. So like another layer of guilt onto the man about to lose his best friend
FLASH FORWARD TO CHALDEA and Diarmuid starts coughing up flowers again basically the Moment Fionn is summoned. He tries to hide it but the Second Fionn hears a cough he is on that shit. Considering??? Fionn wants to try a relationship with Diarmuid now at this point, but Diarmuid assumes he's only reaching out to spare him the flowers. LOTS OF ANGST.
THANKS FOR THE ASK SABUUUUUU
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i think that diarmuid deserves to not only be forgiven for running away with grainne, but to be understood for it, which is to say, i think he deserves to be seen as heroic for doing what he did. he only ran away with her because she placed him under a geas that required him to do so, and the most honorable thing that he could have done in that situation (and therefore the most heroic thing he could have done) - was of course to honor the geas. and who better to recognize the heroism of what he did than someone else who also had to become something he did not want to be, something he would not be thanked for becoming, in order to fulfill a geas? you know, like cu alter?
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Hello I was just knee deep in your explanations about various aspects of Cú Chulainn and came across this "kissing in medieval irish lit is actually pretty rare? at some point i really want to do more research into any other scenarios in which there is kissing of any kind" in an ask. Could this relevance/ significance of kissing also be applied to the Diarmuid/Grainne tale? I know it's mentioned that Diarmuid kisses Grainne 3 times in front of the Fianna/Fionn. So that's basically not only significant but also kinda uncommon? Is it used to show some form of claim?
so i actually didn't get around to doing further research on this but i know @finnlongman is looking at it right now as a sidetrack to their PhD on friendship and affection. it's early days but they are probably the one to ask!
one thing i've noticed is that certain phrases to do with kissing come up a lot more in late texts though and diarmait+gráinne is pretty late so that might be part of it
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The Irish myth of Diarmuid’s betrayal - Iseult Gillespie
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Idk I agree and disagree with Nasu's statement that what Diarmuid had with Artoria in Fate/Zero was not a proper "relationship" cause on the one hand, yeah, no shit, they knew each other for what, three days? And only got to see each other the few times they ran into each other in battle, whereas Artoria was living in Shirou's house and spent much more time with him.
But also I think that paints a pretty reductive picture of Diarmuid as a whole. If the implication is, "He has a tendency to idealize people and overlook/not see their flaws," MAYBE I can see that, and I think that's why it led to him being abused by Grainne. And also to repeatedly be hurt and betrayed by the people he put his trust in.
But if it's "Diarmuid is incapable of having a nuanced, mutual relationship with someone where he's able to see them as a whole person," that's not true at all.
I do think he'd have to overcome a hurdle that sometimes he cannot protect and save everyone, he cannot always live up to his oath as a knight, even with the best of intentions, because fate (heh) will work against you and people will betray you and sometimes things are just well out of your control.
Fanfic ramblings under the cut.
The way I toy with this in my fic is, Diarmuid sees Myra ultimately as someone to protect, and that blinds him to the reality that one day, he wont' be able to save her. The version of Myra that he wants and answers to is one who can be protected and shielded from danger, while the one who pushes forward in Chaldea is one who has not only accepted her "inevitable end," but embraced it (literally! lmao)
Of course he comes to grips with it eventually, but him initially *not* being able to is what puts a rift in his relationship with Myra. It's something he needs to work through but you know, trauma and all that.
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Hmm. . . That rude ass person who said that it would be easier to connect the people or Orkney to the Fomorians instead of the vikings & the fomorians is probably wrong tbh.
I'm double checking what we have of Scottish origin myths and while they do seem to pay more attention to the origin of the land itself & nature in general, the basic premise of how people got there seems to match the Irish mythological cycle.\
Also, there's a possibility that foxes in ireland were considered to be the hunting dogs of vikings, and tracing down this rumor is leading me to a lot of discussion about cultural back and forth between Iceland and Ireland, so . . .
I think my theory of the vikings == fomorians and similarities between vanir & tuatha are still worth exploring
#I do NOT understand why that person who did seem to have done a cursory amount of reading#was so offended by questions that apparently go off the beaten track#of what academia has explored#granted I was already pretty pissed by them fucking mansplaining and acting like I hadn't already addressed several of the points they#brought up but . . . damn they were really close minded and someday I will get more research about all of this done#and maybe draw more solid conclusions but holy shit let thoughts exist in draft stages#i think it IS fascinating how Diarmuid ua Duihbne is simultaneously incredibly masculine and very much feminized#he's described by his ruddy cheeks almost as often as any other means and still allowed to be a badass#and he occupies a similar role in his adventures with grainne as a woman might#if i can figure out what the geis represents culturally with more specifics than just 'force of will' i will be happy indeed
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Listen look I know it's 1am for me right now but I've been sitting on new Turas Realta for AGES waiting to get into how good the dialogue is in this chapter with Fionn and Diarmuid so! Under the cut as usual
Besties who are annoying together stay together <3
This is absolutely meant to be a dig at Diarmuid's incorrect reputation as a lover of many women [factually untrue lmao] but it's also not entirely wrong if you consider the love being referred to here as his love for Fionn and humanity as a whole. Also it's just very funny that this is Fionn's way of gassing his boy up
If you don't love Fionn being a menace you're WRONG and this look tells me that his jabs about Diarmuid's love being stronger than Rama's for his own wife was 100% intentional
I need FGO to give me payment because I've been saying this on my blog for literal years before this manga even started where are my credits
Unfortunately the same praises can't be given to Diarmuid's dissection, because they start off really good by acknowledging he was a victim and then immediately go "oh but he respected Grainne and despite their love starting because of a curse he fell for her anyway uwu" shut the fuck up you can't have it both ways
This part is almost directly taken from one of the Pursuit translations, except that translation was way more uhhh homoerotic, being that it was "his heart torn in two" without any further distinctions, implying he held more than just platonic feelings for Fionn. So they changed it here to get rid of the gay implications :/
BUT THIS PART IS GOOD BECAUSE YEAH FINALLY A PIECE OF FATE MEDIA THAT ACTUALLY RECOGNISES HOW CLOSE THEY WERE AND HOW MUCH THEY MEAN TO EACHOTHER
The first part is Fionn's inner thoughts and the second is Mash's! The boys are having fun
I still dislike how often they have Diarmuid say "my king" in this because he never fucking did that, Fionn was just Fionn to all of the Fianna, but seeing them having this much fun is good civ
And confirmation that most of this was them just fucking around for funsies
LETS GO BOYS THIS IS THE GOOD SHIT RIGHT HERE
Don't even get me fucking started on the emotions this look Fionn gives at Diarmuid's above statement I am FINE
I wish you were allowed to be super Overpowered and wipe the floor with everyone but alas you were made the antag which is still bullshit to me but whatever
He unleashes Mac an Luinn here and even in his weakened state and his Lancer class [remember that Mac an Luinn is his sword not his spear] it's still Very Fucking Strong
Diarmuid takes Rama's vishnu attack like a champion here
WHICH LEADS TO THE BEST FIONN EXPRESSION IN THE WHOLE MANGA EVEN IN THE RAWS YOU UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS HIM GETTING ANGRY AT DIARMUID'S WOUNDS
Ignoring the whole "Mash doesn't get why fighting is so honourable and important to these people" thing [I've already said my thoughts on that] this is just good Fionn panels
And Fionn's reaction to Mash's shield going up full force being a simple "I couldn't reach them" is great because he isn't even mad about it so much as he's speaking about being unable to keep his promise to Diarmuid. In the very next panel he describes Mash's phantasm as "incredibly beautiful"
My biggest issue with this manga was them setting up Fionn and Diarmuid as killing innocents and I'm so glad they didn't go that route and instead went with Fionn using his own magic to reinforce protections meaning he's not even at full magic strength during any of this fight because he's been keeping those shields up the whole time
"Let us speak vows to eachother" I've written FionnDiar fics I know these gay ass rituals by heart don't test me
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Another day another picture(s) that prove Diarmuid is traumatized by Grainne.


I have already saved a few more pictures. Will post them soon.
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Benwisken 'The Breaking Wave' | Co Sligo
The beautiful and dramatic mountain of Benwisken is a part of the Dartry Mountain range in the ancient kingdom of Carbury in north Sligo, bordering Co Leitrim. The peak of Benwisken blocks the entrance into the Gleniff valley, a huge glacier-formed hollow in the north side of the mountain range with the mysterious Diarmuid and Grainne’s cave in the cliffs to the rear of the valley. The native…

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Hello, I'm the anon that asked about the Diarmuid and Grainne tale before and you gave such a great answer that I felt like it was safe to maybe send you an ask again? I've read more into the Ulster and Fenian tales and also came across the comparison between Diarmuid/ Grainne and Tristan/Isolde (a lot actually). Does that hold any evidence? Did the Tristan take evolve from Diarmuids story? I was thinking about maybe it up on JSTOR but you're definitely the less intimidating option. Have a great day
So, with the huge caveat that I am not a specialist in fíanaigecht material and also not an expert on Tristan material, this question did come at the only time when I might be able to answer it, because I literally read an article today about this topic. Having said that, I am still extremely not an expert!
First of all, I will say that this has definitely been a topic of discussion in academic scholarship on these texts. What the current consensus is on whether one text is drawing on the other, I can be less confident asserting, because I haven't read a lot of the scholarship on this topic. Although I'm not working on this topic directly, I'm currently looking substantially at the relationship between Arthurian romances and Early Modern* Irish texts (a category to which Diarmait & Gráinne belongs, although I'm working on the Ulster Cycle, so it's not in my corpus), so it's probably something I'll find myself coming back to. It's a very muddy area though -- although Arthurian scholars are often very ready to attribute details to the "Celtic" origins of a story and therefore imply that any similarities mean an Irish or Welsh text is the original blueprint, in this case, the surviving texts are late enough that you get a lot of influence coming back in from French and English sources via the Anglo-Normans and Ireland's general literary contact with the outside world.
When looking for articles on this kind of topic, JSTOR may be able to help, but I tend to find it's a bit limited for Irish material because so many articles and chapters in our field haven't been digitised. Which is a huge disadvantage. However, there are a few ways around this, at least in terms of identifying material (not so much getting access to it). I ran a search for tristan on BILL, the Bibliography of Irish Language & Literature, to see what had been published on the topic recently (but not super recently because BILL tends to be a few years behind with recent publications).
From there, I found Marie-Luise Theuerkauf's 2017 article in The Matter of Britain in Medieval Ireland: reassessments (Irish Texts Society Subsidiary Series 29, ed. John Carey): 'Tristan and early modern Irish romances: James Carney’s Ur-Tristan revisited.' This is a useful place to start. At least, it's where I started while reading today!
In this article, she discusses James Carney's controversial attempts (in the 1950s) to reconstruct an insular "ur-text" of the Tristan story that would have served as the source for later texts. In this study, Carney identifies a number of Irish texts that share motifs with Tristan stories, among them Tóruigheacht Dhiarmada agus Ghráinne. TDG probably dates to the thirteenth or fourteenth centuries, although the earliest manuscript of the text is from the seventeenth century. However, Carney believed that the original story underlying it dated to around 900, and therefore he can count it among his early, pre-Tristan texts.
It's true that there were definitely earlier versions of the story, since the (descriptive) title of one is found in tale lists: "The Elopement of Gráinne with Diarmaid". The text itself is lost, though, so we only have the title. Theuerkauf notes that "this proves that the love triangle story of Diarmaid, Gráinne and Fionn was known at a date anterior to the earliest Continental Tristan texts, we cannot automatically assume that the Aithed Gráinne story in exactly the same way as the Tóruigheacht does." In other words, a lot of the very specific motifs and similarities that the two texts share might be later, so which direction the influence is in becomes very muddy -- does Tristan get it from Diarmaid, or the other way around? Or do they both draw on a shared source? Or are they coincidental/more general folklore motifs from a common stock?
Theuerkauf cautions: "While it may be tempting to focus on the similarities which exist between the Tóruigheacht and Tristan, this focus has tended to lead to an over-simplification of the nature of the source material" and comments that although they're "very much alike in theme, they are often very different in execution or intent". She finishes by concluding that Carney is wrong about most things, if not everything, and introduces for consideration another 15th-century Irish text with close correspondences to the Tristan stories.
Another scholar who has worked on the relationship between the Tristan stories and the Irish material is Raymond J. Cormier. His article "Open Contrast: Tristan and Diarmaid" in Speculum 51/4 is available on JSTOR. I haven't read this one myself yet, but it looks based on Theuerkauf's citations that he tends to be quite critical of the connections between the two; among his criticisms is the fact that the late date of the surviving Irish texts means influences can enter directly from the French material, so shared motifs don't necessarily mean shared sources or Irish origins for those details.
He's also written about connections between Tristan narratives and the Naoise/Deirdre story, so looking at the love triangle motif in another Irish text. I haven't read this article yet, but it's here, if it's of interest (not sure if paywalled or not, sorry, I'm on institutional WiFi right now so it's bypassing all of that!)
Another article that looks valuable on this topic is Joseph Falaky Nagy, "Tristanic, Fenian, and lovers’ leaps" in Diasa díograise: aistí i gcuimhne ar Mháirtín Ó Briain (2009). Unfortunately, I can tell you nothing about this article because this book is not available to me. I have actually just requested that my library buy it because a couple of the other articles in there are relevant to me, but that means I can't advise on its contents yet!
Nagy has another article on the topic, 'The Celtic "Love Triangle" Revisited', in An XIV Comhdháil Idirnáisiúnta sa Léann Ceilteach, Maigh Nuad 2011: Imeachtaí (Dublin, 2015). Again, I have not read this one (although it looks like my library does actually have it), but it's also cited in Theuerkauf's article and sounds like it could be helpful.
I don't know if this answered your question at all, as I feel like the general vibe of what I just gave you was "ehh well they're definitely similar but the question is Why they're similar and that's more complicated" (ain't that always the way). But hopefully it might give you some sources to follow up on. I'm sorry I can't provide direct links to more of these -- the lack of open access and digitised scholarship in this field is a challenge.
*A point of terminology just to clarify in case anyone was confused: 13th-14th century may not sound "Early Modern" if you're used to thinking in purely historical terms, but linguistically, when it comes to Irish material this label tends to start from about 1300 (and obviously, being found in 17th century manuscripts positions this tale more solidly in the early modern period anyway).
#toruigheacht dhiarmada agus grainne#tristan and isolde#answered#anon good sir#fianaigecht#finn cycle#long post#medieval irish#early modern irish#ps i honestly don't remember the previous ask and I can't find it on my blog#but I'm glad whatever i said was useful!#I'm sorry I can't remember what it was!
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#10. What's an au you have for them?
oooh so, Diarmuid is a disgraced former bodyguard of a prominent businessman Fionn mac Cumhaill, who went viral after paparazzi caught Fionn's wife kissing him. While initially he was able to quietly break it off with Grainne and step away from Fionn's service, once it went viral it just made everything worse. He wants to redeem himself under a new position for much shadier businessman Kayneth El-Melloi Archibald, but the paparazzi won't leave him alone.
Artoria recently inherited her father's large company. While she was given up for adoption as a baby, her birth father still left Camelot and Co. in her name. She was raised in a lower middle class family, so she is still adjusting to this new life. The life of a CEO is stressful, and she doesn't know if she's handling it properly.
They meet in the elevator of a large corporate office building, vaguely recognizing each other from the news. Both of them want to escape their circumstances for just a bit, so they decide to leave together out the back entrance where no one can find them. Then they go somewhere and start talking or something idk lol I haven't gotten far past the initial concept.
#20. Who would be the type to walk out of the bedroom all sleepy and tired and wrap their arms around their partner who's making coffee/tea or breakfast for them both?
Diarmuid definitely! Artoria is dressed and formal as soon as she wakes up, as we see in FSN. Though as we know she can't cook lol so ig she's making coffee/tea. Diarmuid is also able to get up first thing in the morning if need be, after all he spent a very long time on the run, however he also knows a bit more about how to relax compared to Artoria, who comparatively doesn't have much experience being affectionate with people.
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