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I've been mulling this over too and am currently at a few possible scenarios. Agreed that it seems pretty likely to me that Erica is doing dinner with the Turnbows as a distraction, as part of the "Turnbow Trap." She isn't necessarily alone as the ruse, because almost our entire "Extended Party" ends up at the mansion that night (I'm thinking at least Lucas joins her, but that's not really based on anything that indicative). And the mansion stuff is basically confirmed for ep 3, after which there's probably a kind of disastrous return to the Radio Station where the military and maybe supernatural attack that probably bridges ep 3/ep 4, and then we split into our midseason groups in early ep 4 with Joyce, Robin, Will, Mike, Robin, Derek, Erica, and probably Karen and Lucas going to the farm.
So what is our team's goal with the "Turnbow Trap"?
The McCorkle Farm was an access point to the tunnel system in s2. We've glimpsed the tunnels in a few different BTS contexts now, and that at one point Robin and Mike (probably working with others from their midseason group) are using the tunnels to get into the downtown Hawkins military barracks. Mike is walking around the farm with a shovel. It's not a huge leap to think they want onto the farm to get access to the tunnels, maybe as part of a "[Dungeon] Crawl" plan proposed at the group meeting in ep 1 (I'm not a DnD expert but dungeon crawls seem to involve tunnels/mazes, often underground). (The Farm is also where Steve, Dustin, Nancy, and Jonathan enter the UD in the beginning of ep 4, and their car seems mostly prepared for an UD mission so the full group may also know it contains a gate/rift/whatever the new vogue type of UD entrypoint is this season) Random anon leaks that I wouldn't usually trust but have been corroborated in other ways since they showed up say the Turnbows (who own a "Land Development and Realty" company, per the billboard in the UD posted by Ross to Instagram) own the Farm. Do our protagonists need something from the Turnbow home to get access to the McCorkle Farm? (what this would be, I currently have no idea. It's a big property they've just driven up to in the past, so you'd think that would still be an option. maybe it's been fenced in and gated as part of the military's "stabilization" of Hawkins post-"earthquake"? also now this aside is going on for too long, but I did see some speculation at some point that the Turnbows are buying up a lot of property in Hawkins as it's gotten cheaper after the concentration of various minor and major disasters the past few years, which is an interesting concept.)
Derek likely travels with our team from the Mansion (though annoyingly he isn't visually confirmed to be at the dinner/mansion that night, but entertaining other scenarios makes my brain atp. too many moving pieces), probably to the Radio Station while all that bad sh*t goes down and our groups get separated, and then from there to the Farm. He brings his sheets and his lunchbox, because Ross posted photos of them at the Farm set - so that implies however he ended up with our team there was some effort to pack for an overnight stay (or grabbed somewhat randomly as part of a mad dash to get out ig). I would guess the bullet hole in his lunchbox gets shot at the Radio Station unless there's also gunfire at the Mansion. Derek and Holly do seem to be connected to the still extremely mysterious "military is bussing elementary school aged kids to the downtown Hawkins military compound and likely keeping them there since they have a teacher on their payroll" plotline. Holly probably "vanishes" at the end of ep 1, but that doesn't mean she's exactly Will 2.0 and gets taken by a Demogorgon into the UD - if Holly is actually taken by the military to the downtown Hawkins military barracks with the rest of the kids, maybe Derek has information about what's going on there that the team needs to rescue her? Derek also shows up in Maya's accidental script leak ("Derek" is not totally clear in this version of the forensics sry, but while blurry you can still see it pretty clearly in the middle of the page), when Robin and Mike are using the tunnels to access the barracks where the kids are and maybe rescuing them. I think that happens end of ep 4 or later, so it seems a little much for the Party to kidnap Derek and then him to get kidnapped again by the military - are they using Derek to sneak in among the kids at the military barracks, maybe to go in and get Holly out? IDK, seems like a lot to ask an 8-year-old but the show did send Erica alone into a secret Russian military base at age 10 so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Derek seemed to film quite a bit at the DH military set (his rainbow sweater made him one of the easier characters for the paps to spot lol), so he (and Holly) also might get stuck there after this point for a while. He's still there (or returns) in ep 7/8ish, when the kids were filming with Will and El in their late season outfits. Derek's clothing isn't visible in the pap photos so we don't know if he gets to change.
And a random final note, those anon leaks linked above also claim Derek has a crush on Erica. They're far enough apart in age and at separate schools (Erica is now probably in 8th grade, while Derek and Holly will be in 2nd - 4th depending on how retconny they get with Holly's age) that if true I think it probably develops during the events of the season. So that could be cute or grating, we'll see. currently I'm clinging to this as evidence he actually is at the Turnbow dinner, and Erica starts to win his heart there, maybe by being kind of rude to his parents lol.
And then obviously there are a million other scenarios we don't have the info to concoct at this time. but the pieces have to start to come together at some point 😵‍💫
I’ve been thinking about Erica Sinclair in S5. Based on that photo we got of her at the table, it seems she’s involved with the Turnbow(?) family. Early on in the season feels likely. I’m sure other people have put these pieces together, but my guess off that photo is that she’s a dinner guest (possibly less than willing?) as a ploy to keep them busy while the others do reconnaissance. We also have a photo of her at the farm(?) with the Derek kid(?), though, and I’m not sure what to make of that. The farm feels very indistinct in terms of its role in the plot—but then again, most of the locations do. We know so little 🫠
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will80sbyers · 1 month ago
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Oh yeah they posted these to make promo for their latest cash grab with the Polly pocket thing, I'm actually wondering if that thing that Holly finds in the mail when she's near Vecna in that vision is something from Polly pocket but maybe not, we never found out what game it was
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finalgirlwillbyers · 20 days ago
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WORLD PAUSE. This look is adorable.
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Source: @Stranger_Things
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bylrlve · 6 months ago
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Warning! Potential Spoilers for Stranger Things Season 5!
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In light of today’s exciting events i want to discuss this leak post from 27/2 in a quick post.
Will’s indeed having visions - in the woods behind the school, he probably has a flashback to falling from a tree in the Upside Down, etc. Erica with Derek, the Turnbow son, confirms that part. The lack of byler info is consistent with the extreme secrecy surrounding it… and the most noteworthy thing is the mention of m*leven STILL having ‘tension’ which gets ‘resolved’ - very much giving stancy burying things after s1 and having soft 201 scenes - cough field kiss, radio station talk, cough.
Stancy broke up in episode 2, and it was jancy from then on… who’s with Mike at the hospital, forming a pair with him alongside Rovickie and jancy? Who’s filming with him constantly? Oooh…
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ronanceautistic · 2 months ago
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OKAY ANYWAYS title reviews!!!!
firstly, are we disappointed? I mean yeah we knew these yonks ago, but it's nice to have confirmation at least and the last two episode titles.
The Crawl - we been knew. probably to do with d&d dungeon crawls.
The Vanishing of [redacted] - the leaks said ***** Wheeler and since it was clearly correct we must assume Wheeler. It's pretty fucking obvious it's Holly lbr
The Turnbow Trap - the leaks said 'Turbow' but I was very certain it was Turnbow for a while. Turnbow Land Development billboard, various leaks, etc. My best assumption is that that big mansion house they were filming in might be the Turnbow house, and that 'Derek' kid Erica was with might be a Turnbow. Along with the Maya script leak, those kids perhaps are Turnbows. I can't remember what the leaks said exactly.
Sorcerer - will Byers related or Vecna related or both. Also importantish to note this is the episode with Jonathan, Nancy, Steve, and Dustin in the car going in to the Upside Down.
Shock Jock - this is 100% the WSQK episode I mean come on now.
Escape from Camazotz - Camazotz is just a straight up demon bat from mythology, so Demobats in this episode I guess?
The Bridge - these are ones we didn't have before. The Bridge I wanna assume is sort of metaphorical - like a bridge between worlds? We haven't seen any bridges in filming I don't think so I'm sure it's sort of to do with the UD or someone's powers - the way the Piggyback was.
The Rightside Up - that's silly. I like it it's so silly. I mean we simply must assume it's just a play on righting everything that's happened, everything ending, the Upside Down possibly being closed off for good. etc. it's nice and weirdly making me hopeful of a mostly happy ending.
I have more to yap about episode 3 & 4 but I'll make it a separate post.
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ellstinson · 2 days ago
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I was wondering if this car at the downtown set could be from the turnbow family idk
Also, I think Mrs. Turnbow was on this set, along with Derek of course
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conflictofthemind · 19 days ago
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wait so does Derek’s family own the mansion or the farm?
The mansion is their home, and the Turnbows are a real estate family that own multiple pieces of land including the farm
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davidmart01-blog · 7 years ago
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MegriSoft attended its first Canada Digital Marketing Conference at DigiMarCon at Toronto Marriott Courtyard at Eaton Centre Hotel organised by Aaron Polmeer. There were a lot of keynote address covering topics from GDPR affecting the European market to Social Selling, Automation and how to design your digital transformation strategies in towards all time evolving digital market. There were speakers from all across the board like Jeff Turnbow, Derek Lackey , President of Direct Marketing Association of Canada to Samuel Yip and many more.
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addisionadam-blog · 7 years ago
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There were a lot of keynote address covering topics from GDPR affecting the European market to Social Selling, Automation and how to design your digital transformation strategies in towards all time evolving digital market. There were speakers from all across the board like Jeff Turnbow, Derek Lackey , President of Direct Marketing Association of Canada to Samuel Yip and many more.
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will80sbyers · 2 months ago
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i believe vickie and derek are siblings because we don’t have a last name for vickie and it would make sense
I don't think she is... but it could be! From the BTS it seems that Derek's older sister is another girl because she's at the mansion
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will80sbyers · 20 days ago
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Okay so my thoughts about these pictures...
Spoilers under the cut!
I think these might be from the first episodes 1 or 2 or 3 ( I think ep. 1 because they look fresh lmao), Nancy is in her nurse outfit that she has for some reason probably related to the plot and I think El is possibly training her powers with Hopper and Joyce because she wants to be ready to fight Vecna, again probably in the first episodes because of the outfits they all have on -
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oh also they have the bikes of the kids in the car idk why
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I think this may also be from the first episodes, maybe ep. 2, and Erica is at the Turnbow residence for some reason - maybe she knows Derek if it gets confirmed that he's their son like we thought and
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there's this lady on the left of the picture because of the outfit so Erica is having a meal with them ? I had thought that Lucas was there at the mansion to pick her up and yeah I think that's happening probably!
I think this pic of El could be either at the lab somewhere or in the military base maybe? I'm not really sure of this, seems like there's action happening tho
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This might be from around ep. 3 or after because of the outfit Robin has on, we know Murray drives that truck in and out of the military checkpoint
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After episode 4, Dustin is in the lab in the upside down, and I think Steve is for sure with him - not sure why they go there
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They are dressed like after ep. 3 I think (?), not sure where they are, there's stuff like a chainsaw in the back but I can't recognize the place...
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This must be part of the first episodes too because Joyce had that shirt at the radio station too
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in this one they are dressed like after ep. 3 I think, they are for sure inside the radio station
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and I do think that I guessed right, and the one getting blood on her was Joyce, not sure if she's the one that gets hurt tho, it could be Karen and then Joyce gets blood on her - to me it looks like the same type of shoe
No actually maybe it's not the same but maybe she changed the shoes and the first one is in the first episode??? I'm not sure now but it's the same style so I'm leaning towards the blood shoe being hers too
and, finally, here they are clearly watching the byler kiss! That's it :)))
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will80sbyers · 6 months ago
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STRANGER THINGS 5 PRODUCTION MASTERPOST / part 004
Go back to part 001 / 002 / 003
May 24 / 2024
We find out they are filming something in this church (in the UD)
From an update of the IG channel for the day 100 of filming - we get this little video of something happening in the season but it's not easily understandable because it's blurry
May 25 / 2024
Karen was filming something, not sure if it's related to the church, unlikely at this point but she was on set
A video drone of the Church and more pictures
They built a cemetery near the church and put the UD vines on it (not in these pics but we find out later)
May 29 / 2024
The IG channel posts pictures from inside the mansion where the Turnbow family should be living, it's speculation that Derek is their youngest son but it's not confirmed yet... This may be his room thoug, it has lots of games and nerdy stuff
Confirmation that it's the mansion
May 30 /2024
The Creel house is getting prepared so they can film in it
Someone literally broke in the set lmao here are close ups of the radio station set
June 1 / 2024
There's UD vines in the Church set (note! The filming at the church set was set to start before but allegedly they had to reschedule because Noah aka Will had a problem at his eye so Will should be involved in the scenes there probably, they should start in August)
More pictures of the church set
June 4 / 2024
FIRST LOOK AT HENRY CREEL IN COSTUME AND ALSO HOLLY WHEELER - my idea is that Vecna is targeting Holly and making her have a vision or he has her in his mind space already after she gets kidnapped by him
More pictures of Holly looking at something she received in the mail it's the same scene with Henry
More pics of Henry and Holly
There's now a graveyard on the church set
Video and pictures of it
June 5 / 2024
Video of Holly and Henry Creel interacting, someone filmed the scene with a drone
June 8 / 2024
They are filming at the Creel house and at the Creel playground and there seem too be other children with Holly, she is dressed like Henry is using her as his doll in a dollhouse so I think this is inside the mind space, she has a different outfit because it's playing dress up and the other children may be those who he killed before... He may think she's similar to his sister Alice
June 9 / 2024
We sort of get it confirmed that Mike and Lucas have bonding moments in S5 from the actors at a convention
Better quality pictures of Mike and El on the roof in probably ep. 1
June 10 / 2024
This may be a young Joyce flashback (?) there's someone on set at the playground that looks like could be possibly her
Video and pictures of Holly with the new outfit, always on the Creel playground/house set - the playground is in front of the Creel house
June 11 / 2024
New pics from the Church set with the UD vines and all
Video
The set designer of stranger things answer some questions
June 15 / 2024
People go inside the Hawkins school and find random stuff left out there from the sets: 1 / 2 / 3
June 16 / 2024
A new actor in costume is seen on set at the playground, it's a girl with brown hair
June 17 / 2024
Pics and video from the military sets
June 19 / 2024
They film something at stone mountain cemetery
More pics, it seems it could be a cemetery in a vision because the names look weird, not sure if the McKinney grave was already there for a coincidence or was added by production... But actually it could be the UD maybe, I'm not 100% sure on this.
June 21 /2024
This is now basically confirmed... We'll get some type of flashback of Jonathan, Will and Mike when they were younger, Will and Mike were 8 and Jonathan 13... They are looking to cast the actors
June 22 / 2024
Steve's car is seen going around the cemetery
June 23 / 2024
Pics from the downtown Hawkins set, they may be filming in the library
New set in a field that has something to do with the military probably and also random pictures from downtown Hawkins, shops etc
June 24 / 2024
Military scenes are being filmed in downtown Hawkins
They are looking for photo doubles and military stuff is being filmed, someone sneaked in
June 25 / 2024
Pics of Downtown Hawkins, Holly, Will and Mike are seen in their bikes going around town, Jonathan's double can be seen, he did NOT lose an arm lmfao we found out they make a version of the costumes without sleeves because it's too hot for the actors to wear the winter clothes in the summer all day... Jonathan was spared... For now.......
Holly going on her bike
FIRST LOOK AT MIKE AND WILL (and Holly) going together somewhere with their bikes
Again
Blurry pictures of it
A video / again
My speculation: Will and Mike are riding with Holly for a bit until they leave her to go to the radio station, this happens in ep. 1
June 26 / 2024
More pictures of the military in Hawkins downtown, the blue van and there's a car chase scene apparently
Military + Jonathan's double
Night scenes with the blue van and the truck going somewhere
Soldiers
June 27 / 2024
New location, field or the woods in the UD
June 28 / 2024
Various new/old pics church set, cemetery etc
June 30 / 2024
A video of the actors for Will, Mike and Holly... Same scene with the bikes I think
Main cast took a break in for a few weeks in July
Videos of the filming in the fields/woods but from a very far away distance lol
July 3 / 2024
Ross posts a picture with the crew and cast, there's Mike, Will, and Jonathan and Nancy's doubles + blurry people and a video of Finn on set - week 24 of filming
July 7 / 2024
Derek is seen on set in Hawkins with the military
July 10 / 2024
Caleb posts a video getting ready on set
They are filming something in the Hawkins laboratory set, it seems it may be from the UD because the cars seem to be the 1983 models and there's the white van that was used in S1 to spy on the Byers
Rumor is that El is involved but it's not confirmed...
July 11 / 2024
The IG channel posts a video of Erica getting ready to film at school
July 12 / 2024
New pictures of the WSQK Radio station with the sign lit up! Super cool 😎
July 13 / 2024
These posters from the stranger things the first shadow play may have hints about storylines in season 5
July 15 / 2024
FIRST OFFICIAL TEASER OF STRANGER THINGS 5 !!!!
Screenshots from the teaser part 1
Screenshots from the teaser part 2
My analysis of the scenes and my speculation
The new actors of Stranger things 5: Nell Fisher plays Holly, Alex Breaux plays someone in the military probably, Jake Connelly is playing Derek
Pics of the Duffers with the military on set
Pics of Mike and Robin together in the same scene, Mike has a bruise/scar on his face (like I THEORIZED BEFORE 🤭)
Again
The outfits make me think it's from ep. 3 or 4
My speculation about this locker at school
Go back to 001 / 002 / 003
Next... Aka part 005
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will80sbyers · 7 months ago
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New leaks kinda (?) confirmed... At least more than usual:
The Turnbow family is a new family that moved to town and they have properties in Hawkins, they own the farm, under the farm there are tunnels to the Upside Down
The family are husband + wife + daughter + Derek (the kid at the farm)
Derek knows Erica (and maybe Holly too)
The Karen gets hurt leak is also a real leak
Karen & Joyce and Holly have scenes together
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will80sbyers · 2 months ago
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Help one of the episodes is called “the turnbow trap” I think your Raphael Turnbow theory may have been a prediction of some sort.
lmaooo no I used that name because we already had the leaks of the episode titles from months ago! We know who the Turnbow family are from some BTS pictures, and the leaks say that Derek is the younger son apparently and Erica is friends with him
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will80sbyers · 5 months ago
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Other random characters, they are the people living in the mansion and it should be the Turnbow family + Derek may be one of them but I'm not sure
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My idea was this could be young Joyce because she was spotted near the Creel house but it's just speculation because she had a headband and young Joyce in the play wears that so not really much to go with lol
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Wigs they were working on
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Random character at the playground, probably an extra (?)
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Oh and Murray 🙄
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curiositydoorunlocked · 1 day ago
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I’ve been thinking about Erica Sinclair in S5. Based on that photo we got of her at the table, it seems she’s involved with the Turnbow(?) family. Early on in the season feels likely. I’m sure other people have put these pieces together, but my guess off that photo is that she’s a dinner guest (possibly less than willing?) as a ploy to keep them busy while the others do reconnaissance. We also have a photo of her at the farm(?) with the Derek kid(?), though, and I’m not sure what to make of that. The farm feels very indistinct in terms of its role in the plot—but then again, most of the locations do. We know so little 🫠
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