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if you’re not writing beetee as morally gray you’re not writing him correctly.
#dayne talks#thg#the hunger games#beetee latier#for obvious reasons this is a joke#write the weird science man however you want <3#this is 100% inspired over me writing him right now. guys The Beetee Fic has taken over my life.#dayne’s beetee tag
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suzanne providing us with batshit insane scientist representation without us even having to ask
#dayne talks#this is in ref to my last post about beetee and my mutuals tagging gaul bc actually yeah#they are both a part of the crazy scientist community and proud to be there#thg#the hunger games#beetee latier#volumnia gaul#dr gaul#the ballad of songbirds and snakes#tbosas#dayne’s beetee tag
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Oh the way fandom just erases them from the Quell alliance is wiiiiild and so transparently just because they aren't young and traditionally attractive. Because they're KEY to everything. First of all, in the books D3 is one of the first districts to start rebelling even before the Quell which also implies Beetee and Wiress were already "problem" victors. Then you've got them being literally Katniss's deal breaker, she's like "I will not go along with this shit unless I get them as allies". Then, oh yeah, Wiress is the only one to figure out the arena gimmick and Beetee is Central to the plan to break out of the arena. Everyone is toast without them. And finally, Katniss straight up likes Wiress, she spends an exorbitant amount of time in the arena on looking out for Wiress and just being with her, when Wiress is killed Katniss takes precious time to close her eyes and tell her goodbye.
this!! exactly this anon you get it. they are so important to the overall plot of catching fire and the entire series as a whole. like look me dead in the eye and tell me that if beetee wasn’t there the rebellion would have still succeeded. like you can’t. it doesn’t even make logical sense to say that. in mockingjay it is mentioned multiple times that the only reason the broadcasting of the propos even work is because of beetee. he redesigned the entire broadcasting system himself. the rebellion literally would have failed without him.
and wiress. she’s literally there to show how the hunger games affects even the strongest people, a former victor. to show the extent of the trauma and imprint the hunger games leaves on everyone. and yet she’s completely pushed aside and it’s so infuriating. katniss everdeen would not stand for this shit.
#dayne answers#one time i was reading a h*yffie fic (first mistake i have no idea why i was doing that to myself)#but it was a catching fire au and beetee died in it and i literally checked if the author had tagged rebellion failed#because there’s no way. like the rebellion is not surviving after that there’s no way 😭#i genuinely believe some people in this fandom don’t even read the same books like what are some of you people talking about#every time i join a fandom i hope for a fandom that didn’t so obviously fail english class and basically every time i’m disappointed#but yes you are so right anon speak your truth#thg#the hunger games#dayne’s beetee tag#dayne’s wiress thoughts (TM)#beetee latier#wiress#wiress thg#wiress lisiecki
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“wouldn’t it be so great if suzanne wrote a beetee book—“ i would rather somersault off a cliff.
#dayne talks#stay out of my swamp suzanne#“but she’s the author she’s the one who knows the most abt them” WRONG. the most annoying tumblr moot ever knows them best actually.#thg#the hunger games#dayne’s beetee tag#beetee latier
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FINALLY SOMEONE WHO LOVES WIRESS TOO oh my god I feel so seen!! Also in response to your thingy: 🔥!!!
omg i LOVE wiress. she’s so interesting y’know?? but seriously as soon as i saw your blog i was like yes another wiress fan lol.
but anyway back to my opinions.
Wiress:
the thing with wiress is that, by three standards, she is not a genius. like she’s insanely smart, but it’s not like all encompassing?? if that makes sense???
but that’s just three standards. in terms of every other district (with the exception of MAYBE five. maybe.) she is off the charts smart. but wiress does not realize this so she’s like:
w: one time i got a 98 on my trigonometry test and that stuck with me because the rest of my classmates all got either 99 or 100 :(
the other victors: what the fuck is trigonometry.
Beetee:
he’s a bitch. that’s it. i’m being completely serious too; i love writing characters where they’re just assholes half of the time and i apparently decided beetee would be one of them.
half of the time it’s not even intentional either. like someone’s talking and he thinks of the best insult he’s ever thought of ever and he just says it without thinking at all. most of the victors have been insulted by him in some way or shape or form. whether he apologizes is completely up in the air - either he does it immediately or just stares at you with a blank expression until you drop it.
D3:
okay warning i have an insane amount of thoughts abt d3 so… this might take a minute.
*physically throws out the canon area for d3* being one of the first districts (and one of the most rebellious) i feel like they’re really close to the capitol, like how d1 is. so i put it at the very top of idaho, some of oregon and washington, and a little bit of montana. they border seven to the north/east and one to the south.
a good amount of the population is either in poverty or on the cusp (about 120k out of 190k). these people live in what are known as the Stills, an area off the main city of Three, where the wealthier citizens live. the Stills consists of five smaller towns/neighborhoods surrounding a square known as the Interface. this is where most of the shops in the Stills are, along with the main bar, which is called Harlow’s. Harlow’s sometimes has live music or local bands. they typically suck but everyone is usually too drunk to care lol.
the main town is where the wealthier residents live. they also have a square, which is surrounded by small shops and businesses. this is where the reapings take place. it can fit all of the children of reaping age, though it struggles with the rest of the family. they usually have to stand off to the side or in streets with screens to watch the reaping.
the main town is also where the victor’s village is, a short walk away from the square and up a short hill. as of the 75th hunger games, it had a total of five residents:
Attican (“Atlas”) Hoffman - victor of the 16th hunger games and the first victor from three. lived completely alone (except for all of his cats) in the village for twenty-four years. grew up in the main town, was born into a wealthy family. was 16 when he won, was 75 as of the 3QQ.
Beetee Latier - victor of the 40th hunger games and the second victor from three. his five siblings lived in his house with him until they all got jobs and houses in the main town. they visit for holidays and birthdays. grew up in the Stills. was 19 when he won, was 54 as of the 3QQ.
Wiress Lisiecki - victor of the 48th hunger games and the third victor from three. her older sister got a good job in the main town after she won and her mother already lived comfortably. she did bring her four cats (fleur, iris, leni, and luna) with her. grew up in the main town, into a wealthy family. was 18 when she won, was 45 as of the 3QQ.
Marie Teller - victor of the 55th hunger games and the fourth victor from three. her father had already succumbed to an illness and her mother was killed by peacekeepers after attempting to steal fruit from a stand. she moved in with beetee because he was a family friend when she was sixteen. grew up in the Stills. was 17 when she won, was 37 as of the 3QQ.
Haskell Nishimaru - victor of 68th hunger games and the fifth and final victor from three. he was brought up by his aunt and uncle. they lived with him until he was eighteen and then moved nearby. grew up in the Stills. was 16 when he won, was 23 as of the 3QQ.
okay all of those weren’t unpopular opinions and most of this was just me ranting but i hope you liked my word vomit lol!! <333 thank you for the ask 💕💕
#dayne answers#thg#the hunger games#wiress#wiress thg#beetee latier#district 3#thg victors#dayne’s wiress thoughts (TM)#dayne’s thg victors#dayne’s beetee tag#dayne talks
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i see that my insane rambling about beetee has begun to affect my suggested communities.
#dayne talks#i was trying to look something up on tumblr and then i completely forgot what it was as soon as i saw this lol#thg#the hunger games#beetee latier#dayne’s beetee tag
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the grand master post of all things D3
made by a person who definitely thinks about a district that was never actually canonically described a little too much
so. let’s get into the fun stuff!
District Three consists of two main “areas” or zones: the Stills and the city of Stepanov, which is the main city in Three, named after the first mayor of Three, who’s full name was Hewlett Stepanov. It is still a popular name in Three, especially with the wealthy, and the Stepanov family are respected highly by citizens.
if you’ve read my other posts about d3 and everything related to it, some of this is just restating but some of it is new so make sure to find that stuff! here are all of the posts: Beetee + Wiress headcanons | District Three Lore + List of Victors + even more Beetee + Wiress headcanons | Wiress did not grow up poor - opinion | Wiress with Cats | The Latier Family Tree [extended version] | even MORE Beetee + Wiress headcanons | Beetee headcanons pertaining to his childhood | Wiress headcanons pertaining to music + music that is most prevalent in Three | really random hcs about Beetee’s great grandparents | Beetee’s dynamic with the other victors + a little of Wiress and Beetee’s relationship | Beetee’s love language | Beetress headcanons | Beetee’s parents and home life headcanons | Beetee and religion | Beetee and Brutus friendship | Beetress first meeting | Beetee and English (plus beetress) | How beetress fell in love + Beetee’s realization | Beetee post-rebellion | Axel Latier (Beetee’s nephew) and Barbara Lisiecki (Wiress’ sister) headcanons | D3 Tributes headcanons | Is D3 an underdog district? | Wiress’ family and their feelings about her Games | Beetee and forced prostitution [cw: graphic description/depictions of forced prostitution] |
tags: dayne’s beetee tag | dayne’s wiress thoughts (TM) | the latier family | everything beetee/wiress is under beetress
fics: even here as we are standing now (i can see the fear in your eyes) [aka The Beetee Fic]
this will be separated into sections because i have a lot of thoughts lol
General Info:
District Three consists of the majority of Idaho/the Idaho Panhandle, some of west Washington, and east Montana. There also a tiny, tiny little bit of modern Oregon. D3 borders One to the south and east and Seven to the north and west.
The area that is considered “District Three” is not all used for living and the majority of it is forested land. Due to this, lumberyard workers from Seven travel the short distance from the two districts to harvest many of these trees. This is also true for miners from One in terms of gems.
Three makes and produces the vast majority of all technology used in Panem, cars, glass, and various drugs.
Child labor is a major issue, as children from the Stills begin working at factories as early as age four/five. Much of the time, there is an encompassing building attached to the factory that your parents work at for children who work.
Stepanov:
Saint Stepanov (typically shortened simply to Stepanov during the ADD¹/DHG²/BSR³ era) is the main city of Three where wealthier citizens live, or there version of Twelve’s “merchant class”. Adults who live here work as software developers and engineers, factory owners or managers, analysts, programmers, etc. These citizens typically live good lives with fulfilling jobs and nine times out of ten, no one will ever have to worry about where the food on the table comes from.
Only one year in Hunger Games existence were both children reaped were from the wealthier families of Three. The 48th Annual Hunger Games came as a shock to everyone, when both Wiress Lisiecki and Fortran Stepanov were reaped.
The square in Stepanov is where the Reapings take place. All children of reaping age can fit, but families usually have to stand in accompanying streets or are pushed to the back.
¹—After Dark Days | ²—During Hunger Games | ³—Before Second Rebellion |
The Stills:
The majority of Three’s population lives in poverty or on the cusp (about 120k out of 190k), in the area called the Stills, which consists of five separate neighborhoods/towns joined together by a square in the middle called The Interface. The Interface is where the main marketplace for the Stills is, including a popular bar called Harlow’s.
The majority of the Stills inhabitants work as factory workers/laborers. Almost always, these workers work in these jobs for their entire lives. They are not given the same opportunities as the citizens from Stepanov are. Due to this, a lot of animosity from both sides of the divide is very prevalent in everyday life.
Citizens from the Stills are taught from a young age about doing whatever it takes to survive. Because of this, tributes from the Stills typically do better in the Hunger Game than their wealthier counterparts.
— Midtown:
Midtown is the in between area to the Stills and Stepanov. Only around 10k of the overall population live here. Inhabitants of Midtown have jobs that include factory manager, training jobs, and about half of the jobs not pertaining to Three’s industry. People from Midtown are teachers, business/shop owners, and various other occupations.
Midtown is on the other side of Stepanov to the Stills, a short walk down a small hill. Due to the small population, few tributes in the Hunger Games are from Midtown, but there are exceptions. Examples of this include Circ Bauer, male tribute of the 10th Annual Hunger Games, and Matilyne Sanchez, female tribute of the 47th Annual Hunger Games. The 45th Games was the only year where both tributes from Three were from Midtown, with Coball Alves-Torres and Maple Adomaitytė.
Victors Village:
As of the Third Quarter Quell, there were five residents of Three’s Victors Village.
Address — Game — Name — Age at Victory
316 — 16th — Attican (“Atlas”) Hoffman — 16
340 — 40th — Beetee Latier — 19
348 — 48th — Wiress Lisiecki — 18
355 — 55th — Marie Teller — 17
368 — 68th — Haskell Nishimaru — 16
— The Victors:
Name: Attican Hoffman
Kill Count: Six
Type of Reaping: Regular reaping
Birthplace: Hewlett Memorial Hospital, Stepanov, District Three
Name: Beetee Latier
Kill Count: Nine
Type of Reaping: Rigged reaping
Birthplace: Apartment Building 9, Floor 6, No. 612, Three Falls, District Three
Name: Wiress Lisiecki
Kill Count: Five
Type of Reaping: Regular reaping
Birthplace: Hewlett Memorial Hospital, Stepanov, District Three
Name: Marie Teller
Kill Count: One (technicality; she caused six deaths, but only actually killed one)
Type of Reaping: Rigged reaping
Birthplace: Apartment Building 6, Floor 3, No. 321, Three Falls, District Three
Name: Haskell Nishimaru
Kill Count: Two
Type of Reaping: Regular reaping
Birthplace: Apartment Building 3, Floor 3, No. 387, Dreier Springs, District Three
Important Characters:
— Parents of Victors:
The Stills —
Ada Latier (née Brownstone) — mother of Beetee Latier. Lost her older sister, Cora Brownstone, to the sixteenth Games.
Linus Latier — father of Beetee Latier. Lost his younger brother, Hermes Latier, to the fourteenth Games. Linus and Ada found each other as the only person who understood the pain of losing a sibling to the Games.
Annabeth Teller (née White) — mother of Marie Teller. Family friend of the Latiers. Grew up in the Stills.
Fox Teller — father of Marie Teller. Grew up alongside Linus Latier and were childhood friends. Fox and Anna were the reason Ada and Linus met.
Stepanov —
Aurora Lisiecki — mother of Wiress Lisiecki. She runs a circus/theater group to entertain Threes and visiting Capitol citizens.
— Siblings of Victors:
Adeline Latier — younger sister of Beetee Latier. She’s younger than him by six years. She was thirteen when he was reaped.
Roent Latier — younger brother of Beetee Latier. He’s eight years younger than Beetee. He was eleven when he was reaped.
Tera Latier — younger sister of Beetee Latier. She’s ten years younger than Beetee. She was nine when he was reaped.
Ruther Latier — younger brother of Beetee Latier. He’s ten years younger than Beetee. He was nine when he was reaped. Tera and him are twins.
Dayta Latier — younger sister of Beetee Latier. She’s thirteen years younger than Beetee. She was six years old when he was reaped.
Barbara Lisiecki — older sister of Wiress Lisiecki. She’s four years older than Wiress and was twenty-two when she was reaped. Grew up in Stepanov but moved out to live in the Stills after she was expected to join the family business (the circus/theater group).
Various —
Amalia Remizova — female tribute of the 40th Hunger Games, age 13. Grew up in Stepanov.
Fortran Stepanov — male tribute of the 48th Hunger Games, age 18. Grew up in Stepanov.
Stefan Stepanov — older brother of Fortran Stepanov, Wiress’ district partner for the 48th Hunger Games. He was also in the same kindergarten class as Beetee. Grew up in Stepanov.
Additional Information:
Three is not an “Anyone But A Career” district. They have never been one.
Every single time a Three wins the Hunger Games, a victor from One precedes them. Every. Single. Time. Atlas was preceded by Harrison Sanford, Beetee by Paris Sanford, Wiress by Zircon (“Connor”) Lewis, Marie by Emerald Reeves, and Haskell by Augustus Braun.
Three’s victors are sometimes seen as a buffer between the careers and the outlying districts. Most of the citizens of Three don’t have a problem with the Careers, except for some people from Stepanov.
In Stepanov, residents celebrate what children refer to as “Tree Time” during December—families use left over trees from the workers from Seven and display them in their homes with generational ornaments. Every year, at least one new ornament is added to the tree. Some families use breakable plastic to put new year’s resolutions inside of the ornaments and then break them on New Year’s to read them with family and friends at midnight.
Every Saturday, business owners in Midtown set up a marketplace for citizens, primarily ones from Stepanov.
In the Stills, names are very important. Due to the extreme poverty many are trapped in, a common phrase is, “I have nothing but my first and last”, meaning their first and last name.
#dayne talks#this was just a load of yapping so i’m sorry abt that lol#beetee latier#wiress#wiress thg#district 3#hunger games districts#thg#the hunger games#thg victors#dayne’s beetee tag#dayne’s wiress thoughts (TM)#dayne’s thg victors
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I try to be all let people do fandom how they want but oh boy. The bad takes everywhere about beetee and wiress. Stumbled on a reddit thread saying beetee's a mary sue whose only trait is being smart like.... get away from my man actually! People who think wiress has to be brain damaged and is unable to have any "normal" social interaction?? Literally how is it possible to misunderstand them so badly its not even like there's a million words of layered complexity to sift through a lot of it is explicitly stated/shown in the tiny amount of time the narrative gives to both of them. (And the way they're both commonly erased from the Quell alliance ugh.)
THIS!!! oh my god i will never not be mad about the common misinterpretations in this fandom. like of course wiress was having trouble communicating, she was literally going through possibly the worst thing that ever happened to her AGAIN. yes beetee is mainly characterized as being smart but that’s because he’s a side character with not much information on him, not because he’s a mary sue. like are we idiots. have we learned nothing in english class.
#dayne answers#and them being taken out of the quarter quell alliance… oh do not even get me started#if i see one more tiktok edit of katniss peeta johanna and finnick labeled as the golden alliance i will kill someone#like btw… there were more people in that#and we can’t even just blame it on the movies because beetee and wiress were in those too#i think it’s honestly about conventionally attractive actors. like yes jeffrey and amanda are gorgeous people but they were older#and not as pretty as jennifer josh sam and jena#which is honestly so disgusting. this is quite literally a franchise about children fighting to the death and then the one who survives#being forced into prostitution. get over yourselves.#it’s like the inherent sexualization of finnick’s character which i could talk for fucking days about#this is why i try to keep my hcs very neutral#like yes i could talk about what i believe beetee’s stance on the rebellion was and what made him finally join#or i could tell you his favorite color is blue. your choice.#it’s scary out here.#thg#the hunger games#wiress thg#wiress#wiress lisiecki#dayne’s wiress thoughts (TM)#beetee latier#dayne’s beetee tag#beetress
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The state of fandom makes me glad that Jeffrey and Amanda had good takes on Beetee and Wiress. Actually I find it very funny that Amanda said less than five sentenced about Wiress publicly ever but still nailed it when she did. And I wish Jeffrey got to talk more about the politics of Beetee and the canon because he clearly had a lot of incisive things to say but was relegated to soundbites for most of it. (Also, it is very, very sweet that they became friends. Jeffrey described Amanda as "just like a poem, you know? She's like a walking poem. She's just made of dreams")
awww 🥹 i never knew that about jeffrey and amanda, thank for telling me! that’s unbelievably sweet.
also yes i so wish that jeffrey was able to talk more about beetee. i would love to hear about what he would have to say about him. i also just like when anyone even mentions him so lol. maybe i’m a little biased.
#dayne answers#dayne’s beetee tag#beetee latier#wiress thg#wiress#wiress lisiecki#dayne’s wiress thoughts (TM)#amanda plummer#jeffrey wright
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relating to your reblog.. no one actually gets beetee i fear. minus you mostly. but the consensus of him being a chill tech guy and not in part a mass murderer both in the arena and in the rebellion & also pretty morally grey in a sense? yknwwww. yknw!
yes yes yes. all do this yes. he’s morally gray. it is so obvious he is morally gray it is practically written on his forehead. his morals are definitely questionable. that is so obvious and yet…
at this point i think i need a therapy session simply so i can rant about other people’s interpretations of beetee. because. do you even understand him. did you even read the trilogy. like i don’t even know what to tell some of you at this point except that you just don’t get him like i do.
#dayne answers#like this is getting in very headcanon-y territory real quick but…#he does have complicated feelings about the fact that he killed people.#at the end of the day he doesn’t believe he was completely at fault. at the end of the day he does believe that the violence was warranted.#and yes sometimes it was. but at the end of the day the man is not a good person.#just because he’s my favorite character does not mean i think he’s a good person!! because he isn’t!!! like at all!!!!#and this isn’t only about his kills outside of the arena. he did everything in his power to survive. he killed other people’s children.#certain people in panem will never forgive me. this doesn’t haunt him. he doesn’t think about it most days.#this is why he has a complex relationship with the other victors. they don’t get it. he’s practically numb to it now. they are not.#he seems heartless to them. and maybe he is.#very poetic ending but seriously. he’s not a great person all in all.#this is what i meant when i said victors as complex characters btw.#anyways. glad i didn’t scare you off kitty with my last answer to your ask lol.#sorry for once again hijacking your ask.#thg#the hunger games#beetee latier#dayne’s beetee tag
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🔥?
from this ask game!!
beetee doesn’t really share the majority of his inventions with the other victors. in another post i mentioned that his relationship with the other victors is really awkward and stilted, which causes a massive lack of understanding between them, on both sides. this has the effect of beetee never showing or sharing his own thoughts, feelings, and interests with them (besides a select few) and so no inventions or prototypes for the majority of them lol.
like with basically everything with beetee, the exception to this rule is wiress, who is showered with random shit he invented from the moment she won. it’s his love language lol. as they become closer, he just becomes more confused on his feelings toward her, so he tries to stop with the random inventions for her to not give her the wrong idea, but fails miserably and eventually just gives up.
thank you for the ask!! 💗💗
#dayne answers#every time i do one of these i never really know what to do bc i don’t know what are actually unpopular opinions lmao#so i basically bullshit my way through it lmao or go off something i didn't like in a popular fic#which is a lot normally lmao#dayne’s beetee tag#beetee latier#wiress lisiecki#wiress thg#dayne’s wiress thoughts (TM)#beetress
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The Latier Family: Extended Version
close ups:
vera’s family
mateo’s family
linus’s side of the family
haskell’s family
juliette’s family
wiress’ family
#dayne talks#if anyone wants to send asks about any of them i will gladly answer (i will also literally jump for joy i’m completely insane about them)#here’s the latier family in all of its extended glory#thg#the hunger games#the latier family#beetee latier#wiress#wiress thg#wiress lisiecki#beetress#dayne’s wiress thoughts (TM)#dayne’s beetee tag#if anyone notices that adélard and adelais have incredibly similar names just ignore that…#i only noticed after i did it and i'm too attached to both names to change them now
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dayne #1 beetee torture-rer.... do you have any ships for him minus nuts & volts..
beetee and wiress are basically soulmates, bonded for life type shit, but i do have some various other relationships with him, mostly relating to ocs.
i will definitely earn the title of #1 beetee torturer after this because none of these are very shippy… there’s a lot of angst…
warnings for graphic descriptions and mentions of forced prostitution and all of the weird shit capitol citizens do with the victors
Paris Sanford:
read this post for more information of paris, and more info about her relationship with beetee, but in short, she’s the victor of the 39th hunger games, is from D1, and is commonly sold with beetee. i say with because it was common in the earlier days after their victories (40th-52nd ish) for them to be forced to have s*x together for the entertainment of capitol citizens. voyeurism basically. it still happens sometimes, but it’s not as common anymore, as they both have “normal” buyers (basically ones who only/typically buy them over any other victor) that don’t want to see that more than they want to actually have s*x with them.
they were never together romantically (with their consent at least, the capitol does what the capitol does) but both had considered it at least once as it really had felt like they were the only one who understand what the other was going through. it completely fell through as soon as they both realized they basically have nothing in common and that they were too intertwined in each other’s trauma to ever be more than friends.
Various Other Victors:
other than paris, other victors beetee has been forced to be with include Stella Moana Fairchild (41st; D4), Everley “Eve” Peterson (35th; D9), and Venia “Venus” Ripley (44th; D2).
Capitol Citizens:
— Virginia Albatross:
beetee’s first buyer way back in the day. age 54 at the time of the 40th hunger games, 71 when she died. she very much had a parasocial relationship with him, believing they would be together romantically if only the capitol and district divide wasn't there. it’s considered one of the worst first appointments a victor ever had to go on.
she continued routinely buying him, at least once a year, until she died of a stroke during the 57th hunger games. beetee bought himself a cake to celebrate.
— Medea Floreana:
age 32 at the 47th games, now age 60, daughter of the previous minister of treasury, wife of a current gamemaker. she’s actually one of the nicer ones beetee has met, and he doesn’t mind her as much as he minds some of his other buyers. her appointments are usually a little easier, as there usually a day (at a party or social event that her husband couldn’t attend due to his work) and then only one night. the floreana’s are also one of the only families he’s ever met in the capitol who genuinely love each other.
— Aurelia Faaborg:
age 22 at the time of the 44th hunger games, now age 53. continuously bought beetee multiple times during the 44th to 50th games, before she got married and stopped buying him.
during the 58th games, the female tribute for D3 was named Aurelia Taaffe, and beetee couldn’t have a conversation or even look at her without sending himself into a panic attack. thankfully, he didn’t have to mentor that year, but he was required to be in the capitol, so he locked himself out of three’s apartment until she died.
— Other Capitol Citizens:
Diona Waltonsen — age 43 as of the 46th hunger games, now 72.
Folia Brightly — age 36 as of the 42nd hunger games, now 69.
Alaia Albrecht — age 62 as of the 41st hunger games, died during the 48th hunger games after an accident in her skin dying surgery.
Priscilla Odalia Fernsby — age 48 as of the 40th hunger games, now 83.
#dayne answers#on a lighter note bee and brutus once made out#that’s not important to the overall plot of anything but i feel you should know#you did say you love to see him suffer so…#this is 100% not what you meant when you said ships but other than beetress beetee really isn’t a romance person#he never really fell in love until wiress#so. um. this is the darkest thing i’ve ever posted on my blog so i’m sorry if this is too dark to read.#i felt like i should give everyone a fair warning about what exactly the third chapter in the beetee fic is going to have in it#sorry that i completely hijacked your ask kitty…#thg#the hunger games#beetee latier#dayne’s beetee tag
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8 & 25 for beetee!
thank you for the ask lily!! from this ask game.
8. What's something the fandom does when it comes to this character that you despise?
is everything an option?? kidding… sort of. i kind of answered this here, but i hate when anyone dumbs beetee’s character in any way. all of the components of his character makes him him, and even if they make you uncomfortable, like him creating the bomb that killed prim, they still happened. and in order to understand him as a character we should figure out what got him there. and i think that’s the most interesting thing about characters!! learning their motives for actions, even if they seem immoral and confusing to us. it’s important to understand why someone would feel the need to create something like that. and i don’t really understand the appeal of just making him “fun science mentor guy” because honestly that’s so boring?? but to each their own or whatever…
25. What was your first impression of this character? How about now?
ooh this is an interesting question because i think some of you think i immediately latched onto beetee and i did not. not in the slightest actually. at first, my favorite character was finnick, then annie, then marvel, then i think annie again, then wiress, THEN beetee. it took a second lol. and i don’t even know what got me so attached to him!! i think it might have been the victor’s project, of all things, because it was the first fic i read where he features relatively heavily but i really don’t know lol!
my first impression was really just random guy with glasses whose probably married to wiress. then “smart guy with glasses whose probably married to wiress” then “smart guy with glasses who was just widowed” then “smart guy with glasses whose got a plan” and then by the end of mockingjay it was literally just “smart guy with glasses who has committed war crimes”. so honestly it was a wild ride lol.
my impression now is the guy i’ve basically made up in my head. which is so awesome of me. it’s basically “smart guy with glasses who has way too much trauma and really should let him have a day off from it” (spoiler alert: i will not be giving him a day off from it. possibly ever.)
again, thank you for the ask lily 💗💗
#dayne answers#beetee latier#dayne’s beetee tag#i swear every single time any of you ask me about bee i’m like “this will be short”#and then i post a whole ten page essay#unfortunately for reasons doctors can not understand i will never be normal about The Character.
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ooh tell me about vera and mateo!!
i’m so glad you asked!!
mateo enríquez and vera enríquez (née álvarez) are the parents of perl brownstone (née enríquez), grandparents of cora brownstone and ada latier (née brownstone) and, as aforementioned, the great grandparents of beetee and all of his siblings.
Vera:
she was born on may 18th.
she was called “mi pequeña primavera” by her mother (translates to “my little spring”)¹ because her mother always saw her as the beauty in spring while also representing the sadder or more destructive aspects of the season, like the rain (mainly because of her temper tantrums when she was younger lol).
her favorite color is pastel pink.
she loves to bake.
she’s an artist; she loves to paint, sculpt, draw… basically anything hands on.
she has dark wavy hair and brown eyes.
she had a lot of siblings (seven) but she was closest to her older brother rafael. he was older than her by two years and found annoying her really funny, but after they both became adults they grew a lot closer. he even officiated her and mateo’s wedding.
¹ — absolutely call me out if this is incorrect, i’m using google translate lol.
Mateo:
he was born on december 13th.
beetee’s middle name is his first: beetee mateo latier. linus chose beetee’s first name and ada chose his middle.
he is the oldest of his two siblings, camila (six years younger) and maría (eight years younger).
his favorite color is green.
he hates sour food, but loves spices.
going off of that, he also likes to cook. he cooks, vera bakes. all is well lol.
has a horrible temper, much like his great grandson in that department. perl was once bullied by some girls in her class and vera basically had to sit on him to stop him from fighting their parents.
Mateo and Vera:
they met at school. vera was new to the specific area of the Stills and was really weirded out by the strange boy in her math class who kept staring at her. in reality, mateo was just amazed at how pretty she was.
finally, mateo works up the nerve to go up to her only to deliver the worst pickup line you have ever heard before falling down a short staircase due to not looking where he was going in favor of the pretty girl beside him. thankfully, he was not hurt badly and vera found the whole situation more endearing than ridiculous (though she did make it perfectly clear that she thought he was ridiculous).
they married in their mid-twenties. vena gave birth to perl in her early thirties.
vera loves huckleberry pie so every year on her birthday, mateo attempts (key word: attempts) to make one for her. he basically always fails, but vera thinks it’s very sweet.
mateo is killed during the first rebellion by bombs. after the war ends, vera started trespassing into the peacekeeper barracks to scare them. the peacekeepers brushed it aside as a senile elderly lady, but multiple handmade bombs went off in the barracks only a few weeks afterward. it was never linked back to the aging vera enríquez, but, well, the woman was basically a mad scientist.
thank you for the ask about these two random latier family members that i’m weirdly obsessed with right now 💗
#dayne answers#thg#the hunger games#the latier family#seriously who thinks about the latier family this much?? (it’s me i do)#at some point i will write out all of my latier family hcs… at some point…#dayne’s beetee tag#beetee latier
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hello!! i’m curious about your playlist post since you said they were songs from your beetee playlist. i was wondering if you could elaborate on why the songs fit him? particularly foreigners god bc i love hozier
i just love reading your takes on beetee!
i’m so so so glad you asked this!! and i’m so happy to hear that you enjoy my take on beetee’s character!! 💗💗 i love hearing that people like to hear my insanity about this one random guy.
okay. i’m going to go in order with the poll so foreigner’s god will be last but i have a Lot of thoughts about that one so it might be the longest rant lol!
allies or enemies — the crane wives:
this song definitely fits my interpretation of his inner conflict in his arena, which will be explored much more in second chapter of the beetee fic, but in short, he had an ally during his games who died in front of him. before that, he had the misfortune of having a relationship similar to rue and katniss’ with her. the ally was a dead ringer for his younger sister adeline; black hair, dark eyes, they were even the same age. watching her die was for obvious reasons insanely traumatic, and it made him question exactly who his ally had been to him.
devil’s advocate — the neighborhood:
this entire song is about the voice inside your head telling you you’re not good enough or that you’re a lost cause, which is basically exactly what beetee thinks of himself, mainly because of other people’s perceptions of him. he get better later on at changing his own opinion of himself, but it takes a lot of personal growth so.
also he is plays the devil advocate A Lot because he loves provoking arguments (and pissing people off. that too.)
nobody — mitski:
this relates a lot to how beetee tries so hard to be what his mother wants but never fitting it because (as he later figures out) he will never be her sister. it doesn’t help that he looks so much like her either.
it also touches on the feeling of alienation (which i will talk about way more in the foreigner’s god section) that beetee feels commonly.
2Econd 2Ight 2Eer - will wood:
this is the easiest song to explain: it makes no sense and beetee doesn’t either. he’s also kinda crazy so the song really does fit insanely well.
foreigner’s god — hozier:
foreigner’s god is all about colonialism and the alienation and isolation people feel towards one’s own culture that results from it. beetee is latino on his mom’s side, french on his dad’s. his parents never made him feel different for it, and he learned both spanish and french at home, or at least the snippets that still exist in Panem. the problem was that he learned the hard way that you didn’t speak another language traditionally of an oppressed group outside of your own home. french was okay; the peacekeepers from One thought it was fun since they had to learn french at the Academy. spanish… not so much. he was treated with his first experience with the whipping post because of it. he was eight.
but it’s also about isolation, in many forms. he’s the oldest of his siblings, doesn’t have many friends due to going to a school outside of the Stills, doesn’t even really feel connected to his parents. he's a child of mixed ethnicity who has darker skin than most of his siblings (and most people in Three, for that matter), whose so smart it’s commonly isolating, whose the only kid from the Stills who went to a school in Stepanov, who was the first person from the Stills to earn a full ride scholarship to Three’s college (or an offer to go to college at all). the constant feeling of being separate from who would be his peers under normal circumstances has made him feel isolated and constantly “other”.
thank you so much for the ask!! i love absolutely any excuse to talk about beetee (in case you couldn’t tell lol) 💗
#dayne answers#wow this is long#<- i need to stop saying this on literally every single post i write#but yeah anyway that is my long explanation on some songs off of my beetee playlist#(i hc beetee as half french half mexican).#thg#the hunger games#beetee latier#dayne’s beetee tag
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