#criston and rhaenyra
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bbygirl-aemond · 5 months ago
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the way they use criston's cape to showcase the nuances in his relationships with rhaenyra versus alicent is so fascinating to me. rhaenyra takes his cloak off without asking. alicent puts his cloak on, but only after criston asks her to. rhaenyra does not understand the weight of what she takes from criston; while criston trusts alicent to return what rhaenyra took. getting at the ways in which both alicent and cirston have been in unbalanced dynamics with viserys and rhaenyra respectively and how criston respects alicent because he knows she can truly understand what it's like for him in this regard.
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ride-thedragon · 1 year ago
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A lack of Nuance for Rhaenyra and Criston.
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I don't know when this fandom came together for the group agreement that anything that occurred between these two should not be viewed past superficial lenses that draw to the worst possible conclusions for them both, but I didn't sign it.
This fallout is so emotional, bitter, and unfortunate that to only see it within the views of making these characters, the worst versions of themselves is a disservice to one of the better plots the writers wrote.
Their Society
Rhaenyra and Criston exist in the intersections of women and men and princess/heir and knight. The assumption that any necessary conclusion about their dynamic can happen outside of either one of these dynamics leads to really reductive takes. For example, everyone's favorite misinterpretation, their sex scene.
Rhaenyra is a woman. She is the property of her dad and then her husband. She doesn't escape that as heir to the realm. Had Rhaenyra married anyone who didn't care about her or put their explicit permission with her about her virtue, she would've been devalued in that relationship.
Screwing a princess, the heir, especially, is crazy. He put his life at risk doing that. Not to mention him being a Dornish King's Guard. Not only is he expected to be a sexual deviant, but he's sworn an oath to be celibate. So when they do sleep together, he's breaking a sacred oath with the underlying stereotype that he would.
Because he is a man, his consequence would lie solely on him breaking his vow, not with sleeping with Rhaenyra. In one of the craziest hypotheticals I've seen with y'all come up with, if Rhaenyra said Criston assaulted her, he's an oath breaker who deflied a princess and a rapist. She is still viewed as less of a prized bride without her virtue.
Like book Lancel, who says,
"A Frey girl, and not of my choosing, she is not even a maiden."
There is a stigma that virtue makes a girl more or less desirable.
The risk for each of them would never be equal for many reasons, but the risk is still there and does involve consequences. It holds as much risk for each character as it could given their positions.
Our Society
Power imbalance
He knew her at 14, and she chose him to be her protector at 15, and he's been that for her about 4/ 5 years when we see them consumate their relationship. He's older than her and more experienced.
Rhaenyra holds a lot of power as well. As a princess who appointed him to his position, there could have been a sense of obligation or coercing purely based on the what-if consequences if he had said no.
The back and forth in our world is the ability for either party to truly consent, a debate that, although it holds a lot of nuance, y'all can't seem to process past each other. These ideas co exist and make the dynamic interesting.
Emotion
These two are each other's closest companions at this time. Rhaenyra has been formal and frigid towards Alicent, and Criston is her constant company. She's also been on tour to find her husband, with him being her closest confidant.
The escalation of their relationship and denial or regret for either of them after sleeping together has them losing that relationship.
It's an extremely delicate boundary they both risk when they start to sleep together, one that is eventually lost.
The SA Part
I just wanna talk.
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Coercing, as I understand it, is the most extreme thing you can say happened between them. You'd still be wrong.
The risk I mentioned earlier applies to both of them. If Criston had turned her away, which he could've done after she kissed him, she would've lost that same emotional dependence.
A breakdown of what happened:
She starts to open her top, he says stop, and she does.
She then starts to take off his glove cuff thing.
She looks at him, raises his head, and kisses him again, something to which he fully responds to and they start doing what they do.
At no point is there a lack of understanding that they could stop. Neither of them want to stop.
Then you say the helmet and door thing before so I'll allow it.
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If he took up his helmet and walked out, she wouldn't restrain him. She'd be hurt and rejected, but she would not force him.
He literally takes his cloak from her, contemplates his movement, and lets it go to remove his shoulder pads. The visual language plays into him, choosing desire over honor, not him being forced into something he doesn't want to do.
At no point are the visual, audio, or character actions indicating assault or coercion.
Let it die here, please.
The Incel Accusations
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I'm gonna be disrespectful before I'm serious again.
Fabien's mug? Involuntary Celibate? There is no correlation between those two questions.
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Stop it. Let's be serious and say it, 5 minutes in a room with Criston, any 1 out of 3, would put an end to those accusations, and I'm tired of y'all acting like it wouldn't.
Words lose meaning all the time, but incel would mean he's a violent misogynist who takes his inability to have sex out on women.
He's might be homophobic (a joke) but he's not a woman abuser. His closest relationship in the show is Alicent, and it was a mutually beneficial decision they came to that to maintain his deeply respected position as a King's Guard, with which he returns to his vow of chosen celibacy.
The one time he uses a slur against a woman, he's trash-talking Rhaenyra with Alicent, saying it and immediately corrects himself with a pause in the conversation, saying it's beneath him.
They are both angry, but he corrects himself for going to a place beneath their conversation, showing that he respects her contribution and their discussions enough to be weary of vulgarity.
Criston, as a character.
Criston, as a character, is loyal, loving, and emotional. We see this with the way Alicent speaks to him, the way he speaks to Rhaenyra, even the conversation with him and Daemon. He's a reactive and emotional man.
We see the darkness in that with Ser Joffrey and Lord Beesburry. With the way we see him holding that grudge against Rhaenyra. We see it with the way he interacts with Rhaenyra's kids through Alicent’s.
Him wanting to run away with her isn't him desperately trying to seek comfort with his abuser.
It's him trying to come to terms with the fact that he's made a big, emotional sacrifice, and he can't justify it within himself.
His proposal doesn't align with her wants, and they fall apart. He's reactive and emotional and blames her. It's still his conflicting beliefs and actions.
He attacks Joffrey because of that. He tries to kill himself because of that. When Alicent finds him, she becomes a beacon in which he can earn forgiveness, away from Rhaenyra and can set the conflict to rest within himself. He chooses the King's Guard.
And he's loyal to that forgiveness to a fault, something Alicent knows, which is why she can vouch on, "with everything you feel for me,".
Is he wrong? Yes, on multiple occasions, but he's allowed to be. He's a flawed character in a flawed society.
Rhaenyra, as a character
I've never seen a character so consciously misrepresented by her fans and detractors. She's either Satan herself or the mother Mary reinvisioned. Let's go over this.
She is entitled. She uses that entitlement to her benefit. She is emotional but logical and plays to her strengths. She also has a dimension of naiveté all throughout her life. She's living to a fault.
Step by step for everything.
She sleeps with Daemon at his wife's funeral
She gains her father's favor in a fight against her maimed brother and disrespected son where she openly acknowledged it.
She let's Rhaenys think that she killed her son to marry Daemon and let him buy into the fire and blood sentiment because she knows him.
She leaves King's Landing for six years and expects her highly contested crown.
Her weakness is always the people she loves. From episode one to episode ten, it is her way. With Alicent, the best example, she always forgives her and always pushes past any ill intent to gain her favor back.
Their Interactions
So we have a spoiled naive princess who loves people entirely, and her companion, whose loyalty she comes to rely on, so much that she risks her reputation with him and who becomes her closest confidante.
She names him a King's Guard and her guard, and they get closer. He's attentive and caring to her, and she's loving and naive.
When they fall apart, he views her for reasons said above as a representation of his temptation and straying from his current path. She used him for her own gain and didn't want their relationship to progress past what he was deeply ashamed and conflicted over.
When they drift apart, he causes a highly dangerous event, killing her husband's lover, creating a bridge in their early marriage that she can't afford to mend with the expectations of her as heir. He abandons her and becomes close to her friend, who even though she reached out to her, still not trusting her. He then completely gave Alicent that loyalty, leaving Rhaenyra alone at a tumultuous and anticipated time in her life, isolated.
Love and Loss
They loved each other. Argue with your family members, and maybe they'll care about your rebuttal, but I don't. They love each other in very similar ways they go on to love the people they truly love.
It was young and emotional and naive, and when it was over, in its place, grows confusion and bitter resentment.
Rhaenyra has to move on for the sake of her kids and new life, but Criston can't because his life now is in opposition to who he used to be, which is symbolized by Rhaenyra.
A fair conclusion
They are characters. Stop being weirdos about them. They are both deeper than y'all, allowing them to be and had a really dynamic place in each other's lives. They are both greatly misrepresented by their sides and foes. And y'all would have a lot more fun if you didn't do that.
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lesbomixtape · 5 months ago
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lord take all of their suffering & give it to criston cole
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prideprejudce · 5 months ago
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best hotd tweets so far
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nebulousfishgills · 5 months ago
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Listen, Otto realizing that he helped put a moron on the Iron Throne and then going through the five stages of grief before dipping is peak comedy, bro really fucked around and then found out.
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darejani-artist · 2 months ago
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𝒯𝒽𝑒𝓇𝑒’𝓈 𝓃𝑜 𝓌𝒶𝓇 𝓈𝑜 𝒽𝒶𝓉𝑒𝒻𝓊𝓁 𝓉𝑜 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒢𝑜𝒹𝓈 𝒶𝓈 𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓌𝑒𝑒𝓃 𝓀𝒾𝓃, 𝒶𝓃𝒹 𝓃𝑜 𝓌𝒶𝓇 𝓈𝑜 𝒷𝓁𝑜𝑜𝒹𝓎 𝒶𝓈 𝒶 𝓌𝒶𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝓉𝓌𝑒𝑒𝓃 𝒹𝓇𝒶𝑔𝑜𝓃𝓈…” ❤️‍🔥
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houseofyax · 1 month ago
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The Casting BTS ✨
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wolfienation · 4 months ago
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big brown eyes. long dark hair
rhaenyra targaryen. you have a fucking type
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hed184 · 4 months ago
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Let's see, Aegon was right about...
1. Considering smallfolk
2. Securing Harrenhal before Daemon builds an army
3. Securing Grover Tully's support after Lucerys' death
4. Burning the blockade sooner
5. Wanting a dragon to accompany Criston and Gwayne (they could've killed Moondancer and captured Baela)
And STILL many people are saying he was a dumb king! Even with him not recieving any preparation, his ideas would've eliminated the biggest problems that the Greens are facing now.
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princessofmarvel · 8 months ago
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Petition for all team Black and team Green fans to not be at each other's throats this upcoming season, and instead, we all just root for our favorite war criminals in peace? And normalize liking characters from each team and just have a preference on teams? Because that sounds like a fun time to me, thank you 🫶
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nyeisha95 · 3 months ago
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Criston Cole fought in one battle where 3 dragons were present and fought each other and was like “Oh I get it now…… I ain’t shit”, and that’s literally the best his character has been all series, and probably the best character Arc in the entire season!!!
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ride-thedragon · 1 year ago
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Screwing a princess, the heir, especially, is crazy. He put his life at risk doing that. Not to mention him being a Dornish King's Guard. Not only is he expected to be a sexual deviant, but he's sworn an oath to be celibate. So when they do sleep together, he's breaking a sacred oath with the underlying stereotype that he would.
Hi could you clarify what you mean by Cristin being a sexual deviant here as I missed the nuance
I don't think he is. I want to clarify that.
But the first thing Alicent says when she sees him is that he's Dornish. This is time when Dorne hasn't joined the seven kingdoms, and even though Criston was born in the Dornish Marches and more than likely wasn't raised with that Dornish influence (hence the reliance on the faith of the seven and their virtues. He's a marcher. ) he still has to deal with appointed stereotypes.
Like in the books, the Marchers think the Dornish are liars. As a dornish kid who had to grow up in that hate , he seemed to simply assimilate with the marchers because he seemingly tried to ignore all the stereotypes we've come to know (except that passion).
So, in that point, what I'm trying to say is that King's guard or not had it been found out he would've been profiled. Feudal stereotyping.
He's putting his life on the line because he'd be an oath breaker fitting all the expectations of the Dornishmen. Who again is not a part of the seven kingdoms.
It's not a part of the narrative that the writers chose to highlight, but I think it is important.
To me, this also shows a trust in Rhaenyra he has that he'd be willing to do it, but we knew this.
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heavenhatesme · 4 months ago
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Alicent and Ser Crispy Cream having a righteous flirty session.
Meanwhile Gwayne Hightower:
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spacerockfloater · 3 months ago
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Aemond baby, get behind me.
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gotham-at-nightfall · 3 months ago
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House of the Dragon Playing Cards
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The King and the Queen
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The Cast-Aside Queens
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The Queen's Right-Hand men
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The Second Sons
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Daughters of the Rogue Prince
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The Innocent and the Guilty
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The New Hands
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The Warden of the North
By Dvincii
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lilhawkeye3 · 4 months ago
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Alicent Hightower, Criston Cole, Harwin Strong, Daemon Targaryen, and now Mysaria?
Rhaenyra is an absolute MENACE and her pussy game is unmatched, I am in awe
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