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One wedding and three funerals
Background paintings under the cut
#tomgreg#succession#tom wambsgans#greg hirsch#shiv roy#roman roy#kendall roy#yeah no im not tagging everyone thats too much#this is me going 'how much implications themes and symbolism can i fit in one painting'#yes i gave rose shivs haircolor. if we ever find out how she looks like and its not like this im just gonna pass away i guess#but yeah i hope yall connect the dots#i put waaay too much thought and work into this. i was googling pictures of all the actors as kids just for reference (sigh)#honestly kinda wanted to make tom and greg link pinkies as like. a pinkie promise. but that was too hard to draw in this angle#at least not without obstructing the view of the ring which is important to see so ya#my fave is actually the tomshiv wedding pic i went off with that. i love them... they should have run away to become sheep farmers fr fr#anyway im so glad im done with this UGH!! finally i can draw smth else without being like oh noooo i need to finish this#i see a lot of you wondering why there is no portrait of logan but one of ewan#it's bc the placement of the painting represent their standing. logans portray would not hang next to the stairs#his present portrait hangs at the end of it. all the way up at the top. alone and withering away#basically the picture you see underneath ewan to the right? its where toms parents would be. the right side of the wall is tom and gregs#and the left one is the roy siblings theirs. since they grew up rich rich. and tom and greg didn't#but ya thats why ewan hangs here and logan does not :)
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tomshiv / i'm your man - mitski.
#including some funky fresh tom (blue) shiv (red) arrows bc i felt like this post was confusing LOL#tomshiv#succession#web weaving#parallels#succession web weaving#shiv roy#succession spoilers#succession s4#connections#tom wambsgans#lyrics#mitski#i'm your man#the land is inhospitable and so are we
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Princes and counties! Surely, a princely testimony, a goodly count, Count Comfect; a sweet gallant, surely! O that I were a man for his sake! or that I had any friend would be a man for my sake! But manhood is melted into courtesies, valour into compliment, and men are only turned into tongue, and trim ones too:
Much Ado About Nothing: Act IV, Scene 1, Lines 1963-1971.
#succession hbo#succession#logan roy#tom wambsgans#kendall roy#shiv roy#shesnake#akajustmerry#usermonstress#mine*#i'm connecting the dots#i'm not sure what to tag this#but merry I thought of you when I made this#I was going to gif... But my eyes are fucked
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going insane over all of tom's little mannerisms while greg leads into telling him about shiv cheating. and btw i hold without a doubt that tom did NOT know that that's what greg was going to say
like this is the rapid nod of someone absolutely anticipating a love confession...... tom's little hop is irrelevant i just thought it was cute
#tomgreg#tom wambsgans#1x9 pre-nuptials#thinking also about how this comes after that deleted dialogue in the scripts#like tom telling greg that he's only hard on him bc he knows greg can take it#and greg 'feels a moment of connection'#that really would've been the perfect lead-in to a confession#anyway i feel so certain of disappointment in tom's face and voice when greg says shiv's name too#video#gifs#mine
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Greg, Shiv and Tom’s Individual Posters for Succession Season 4
#THE CONNECTING POSTERS???#TOM IN THE MIDDLE OF GREG AND SHIV???#WHAT IN THE LOVE TRIANGLE IS THIS????#succession#tomgreg#tom wambsgans#greg hirsch#tomshiv#shiv roy#succession season 4#succession cast#succession spoilers#succession posters
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ok but like. okay. okay but like Greg WOULD go live in a trailer park with Tom lol. Greg would follow Tom anywhere for love lmao
#am i delusional?#no actually#succession spoilers#succession season 4#and the talk shiv and tom had like they have such fundamentally different understandings of money#they’re never going to view money in the same way lol#it’s obviously never going to work out for them#but greg started this show homeless and he’s running around trying to find connections anywhere he can#if tom told greg he wanted out i actually kind of think greg would get out with him#greg in s4 e1 would anyway we’ll see how this turns out#tomgreg#whoops forgot that one#it’s not tg guys this is a normal factual analysis
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Tom winking at Shiv in season 2
Shiv: 🙄🥰
Tom winking at Greg I’m season 4
Greg: 🥰🙄
#tomgreg#tomshiv#what does it mean?#I’ve connected the dots#you haven’t connected shit#i’ve connected them#tom wambsgans#Greg hirsch#shiv roy
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like there has to be other people on here who are reading past the surface level implications of tom’s behaviour to shiv this episode. it’s part of a wider trend that’s been prevalent since the start of the show. like shiv repeatedly has told tom not to touch her this season yet he never took her seriously and then he flicks her ear. not gently might i add. and no matter your interpretation whether you consider that to be hitting her or not (it basically is) that’s still unwanted touch. it crossed a line shiv literally recoils right after. she looks shocked and tom knows he crossed a line but there just has to be a middle ground between reading it as ‘tom is a wife beater’ or ‘this is just silly failmarriage hijinks’ like there’s so clearly a tonal shift after he lays a hand on her. no less in an episode which clearly shows how similar waystar and gojo are as companies that enforce the idea that women are expendable and under the authority of these companies women are harassed and ignored and abused and then the nature of this abuse is trivialised. and like tom has always felt a certain entitlement towards shiv (eg attempting to baby trap her in s3 + the repeated social climbing attempts made through her every season since s1) but it’s so clearly emphasised this season. and like who has tom been in close proximity to since the s3 finale up until just recently who also feels a entitlement over shiv and also belittles and weaponises her gender against her? who also forces her into the gendered role of Wife/Daughter against her will and whose own abuse towards her is specifically misogynistic in its nature? like it seems to me the proximity around logan has enforced the idea in tom’s head that he has a certain given entitlement and right over shiv no matter what. like the jokes about tom being openly hostile towards shiv now when he hasn’t in past seasons. like i wonder where he internalised all that. who else has acted just exactly like that.. . simply put logan labels shiv as tom’s “fucking wife” enforcing the idea that shiv is just an extension of him and tom. and even now that logan’s gone tom’s misogyny and his utilisation of it has so clearly intensified from watching and learning how logan himself operates in regards to his treatment of shiv and other women close to him.
#succession#shiv roy#like to be clear i’m not saying tom’s an evil wifebeater but to ignore how his own strain of misogyny towards shiv has intensified after#spending prolonged time around her father. and logan’s abuse of shiv was always so connected to her gender and he always weaponised this.#logan tells tom . shiv is YOUR wife he suggests tom has a certain ownership of her just as he thinks he does. and this is so prevalent even#now that logan’s gone. like tom was always misogynistic but it’s really intensified . how many times does she have to say don’t touch me for#him to not touch her.#like shiv asking tom to dinner in the end is like. continuation of the cycles of abuse etc. i don’t wanna be reductive bc the tomshiv#relationship is a lot of things and it’s obviously not just power and control but to ignore this part of it and tom’s character is a huge#disservice i think . to their relationship.#like i hate tom but a lot of that is reactionary i actually think he’s really interesting nd i love tomshiv. pleading he becomes#tom of siobhan again . s1 is when he slayed the most just saying.#like tom loving husband of shiv roy i love. tom wambsgans i do not know#shiv#p
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Everyone keeps saying Shiv is becoming her mother. But what if it's worse than that? What if she's becoming Connor's mother?
#succession#succession spoilers#shiv roy#saw a quote about how Connor's mom was some New York society type who Logan married for the career connections#which is very TomShiv#and we keep hearing vague allusions to Shiv's not great time when she and Tom met#and she's just constantly shut out of the narrative#just like how we don't even know Connor's mom's name
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someone make a gifset paralleling shiv’s “are you attracted to me greg” to tom’s “would you kiss me” to greg please and thank you lmao
#shiv roy#tom wambsgans#greg hirsch#succession#succession spoilers#it was my instant connection lmao
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“do you have all the support that you need [for sweden]?”
#tomgreg#''i'm not okay'' wig tom :))))#man what can i even say about this part like literally what can i say#it feels less like he leans to greg when something is wrong with shiv and more like he leans to greg when he's fucking terrified#why would someone like greg EVER make you feel safe in a business world. unless you were enamoured with him.#unless you felt like you were on top of the world with him. invincible. unstoppable. unless you TRUSTED him with your life.#unless it wasn't about business at all. or at least not completely.#idk idk. you could say he couldn't exactly call shiv bc of the state she was in and yeah you could say he needed to cover his ass.#true. that's all true. but i think that regardless of that. it's important to remember greg asked if tom wanted him there earlier#and tom denied it but in actuality he really fucking did need him.#he could never predict he'd lose his big connection; that logan would die. of course not. he could never predict he'd suddenly#become unsafe and the rug pulled out from under him. but if he could you KNOW who the fuck he'd take with him.#it's also important to remember that it's only to shiv and greg that he ever admits that he's not okay/hurt. that he ever lets down the wall#greg is not amazing with his words but i think to hear his voice was enough to comfort tom a bit. and when he made the joke#greg calmed him down. he didn't even chide tom for making a joke about greg looking like a suspect. he was too focused on#listening to tom and making sure he got it all.#they're sOOooo. ughh#sigh. sigh. sigh. sigh. SIgh#sorry for the long ass cap posts but like. sometimes you Gotta cap it and not do a video like this Deserves caps
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Shiv votes against Kendall because in her mind she has more control with Tom in charge than him.
#succession season four spoilers#succession series finale#succession spoilers#succession season 4 spoilers#like she knows. she knows kendall will push her out. he will do whatever he needs to to fuck her over which we've seen happen#and even though tom betrayed her in the italy episode. she probably still thinks she has a connection to him that he won't be inclined-#to severe completely because of their relationship#and will likely begin to lean on her and she will find her way in through tom like her little puppet husband#whether that's realistic or not because her view of relationships is warped because she was raised by#mr 'he didnt love anything he didnt kick just to see if it would come back' roy himself. but yeah#anyways imo i think tom ending is a good ending#tom wambsgans#shiv roy#siobhan roy
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Westworld 1.05 "Contrapasso" Succession 1.07 "Austerlitz"
#westworld#westworld s1#succession#william westworld#logan delos#logan roy#tom wambsgans#shiv roy#parallels#dots connected#and we all know how those ended :')#anyway contrapasso you will always be famous
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officially recommending my succ.ession mutuals to watch the righ.teous gemstones bc they're very similar except trg is abt a megachurch and it's more insane and funny :hearthands:
#it's so so good trust mee#also maybe potential f/os there. for some ppl. i think.!#.txt#jesse = kendall & connor / judy = shiv / kelvin = roman / eli = logan unfortunately but he's actually a good dad for 80% of the time#bj = tom / umm that's all i got i think.#oh gideon = greg which i've already talked abt. wait i realized theres another connection btwn them a la s4. but i shan't say. spoilers.
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I said this to a friend, but I wanted to say it here because I want to know what others think: succession is one big game of chess. Logan is the queen. The queen’s job is to protect the king. The “king” is waystar royco. The kids are pawns. Every once in a while, one of the kids advances and becomes a knight, a bishop, a rook, but never as another queen.
Logan’s side is stronger. Logan’s pawns always advance. He’ll use anything to keep the king protected and in the right hands. He’s been checked a few times, but never check mated.
One of the kids in this final season will advance as another queen. Then, and only then, will Logan meet his match and be knocked out of the running. Giving the king over to the new queen.
#succession#succession season 4#logan roy#waystar royco#kendall roy#roman roy#shiv roy#tom wambsgans#cousin Greg#chess#I’ve connected the dots
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i think i grew up too poor to enjoy the family drama in succession because like... the family drama you get out of growing up poor is sooo different. so like even the "heart" of this show is just bouncing right off me
not gonna call the show bad or whatever but like... it is not for me
i really wanted to go join in the shit posting that comes with prestige tv but this is not gonna be the hsow for me
maybe if i had blood siblings instead of pseudo-siblings i was raised with it'd work a bit more on me but alas... no
#i normally odn't have to relate to the shows to enjoy them#but like.... i hate rich people#making me watch rich people and then try to make me care abotu their relationships#isn't working if there's nothing else compelling going on#and to me... there is no connection#i got 5 eps in and it's just...#i hope all of them die#roman talk si hope he dies#greg stutters i hope he dies#tom acts gayly andi hope he dies#shiv asses assily and i hope she dies#it's just not working#also i hate conor the most#idc if he has a reason to be that stressed out and neurotic#i hope he dies for real
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