#common house of finarfin win

[ladyespera]

somewhere out there I know Sauron would be mad abt the fact that he stabbed Galadriel and she fell off a cliff after telling him to heal himself, and now that she woke up from her darkness coma her hair is freshly curled gorgeous looking, skin moisturized and luminous, thriving, glowing, nenyassified, etc

[warrioreowynofrohan]

Fourth-generation Finwëans: Notes

1 from the House of Fëanor (Celebrimbor)

2 from the House of Fingolfin (Idril, Maeglin)

3 from the House of Finarfin (Finduilas, Gil-galad [yep, I’ve joined the side of him being Orodreth’s son; still reading Orodreth as Finrod’s brother rather than nephew], Celebrían)

Gender-balanced, unlike the previous generation!

Precisely one-third survive (Idril, Celebrian)

Sequence by age: Celebrimbor (headcanon), Idril, Finduilas, Maeglin, Gil-galad, Celebrían

Fates/deaths ranked from best to worst:

1) Idril: Gets to go to Valinor and bring her human husband, because she’s awesome!

2) Celebrían: Doesn’t die, but circumstances of her going to Valinir are pretty awful, and her daughter chooses mortality, which is always hard.

3) Gil-galad: Dies, but does so defeating Sauron in an epic battle, which is really about the best way you can go. Still not as awesome as Fingolfin’s on my personal gut level, because Morgoth was tougher, but points for winning!

4) Finduilas: Abandoned by boyfriend and then speared, very bad, but quick so not the worst on the list.

5) Maeglin: Betrays Gondolin and gets chucked off a cliff in a way that eerily mirrors the fate of the father he almost certainly hates, embarassing all around.

6) Celebrimbor: Decieved, tortured, killed, used as his enemy’s battle standard, a strong contender for Worst Finwëan Death.

Achievements:

Major positive: Idril (saved people of Gondolin; is also Beleriand Madonna), Gil-galad (ruled Noldor 4000+ years, knew better than to listen to Annatar, defeated Sauron via the power of teamwork)

Minor positive: Celebrían (we don’t know much about her but she must have had a big role in the establishment of Rivendell)

Minor negative: Finduilas (some poor judgment common to all of the Nargothrondim)

Positive + Negative: Celebrimbor (created the the three elven-rings which were a great help, but if not for him there wouldn’t be Ringwraiths and the dwarves would have had fewer wars, so that’s a nevative; question of whether Sauron would have accomplished the downfall of Númenor if he hadn’t had the One Ring still outstanding; inadvertently enabled Sauron to be much more powerful but also enabled him to be permanently defeated)

Major negative: Maeglin (betrayed Gondolin, was also a creeper)

[vardasvapors]

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   Arafinwean family dynamics, both pre- and post-Darkening    

1. I usually like to go for the version with Orodreth being Angrod’s son rather than a fourth brother, mostly because okay seriously the gender disparity in the house of finwe is getting fucking ridiculous, but also mostly because the only way I really see him when thinking of him as a brother is like, the tagalong-ish lost one, and idk I’m not a big fan of sibling dynamics like those unless they turn out more successful than Orodreth’s arc was...Orodreth’s arc appeals to me more when viewing him as fourth generation...I can be convinced otherwise though!

2. I really like that bit in the UT about Finrod being Galadriel’s favorite brother, mostly because it made me raise my eyebrow when I first read it, because not what I’d headcanon at all in the absence of other info, but the more I thought about it the more sense it made and the more I liked it. I really like not-immediately-apparent sort of relationships!

3. I like Angrod and Aegnor being very close with each other and very joined at the hip, and pretty similar in most ways, and sort of leaving their youngest and oldest siblings “out” of their innermost circle a bit...but also like, not exactly complementing each other very well, and thereby things happening like, Aegnor going to Finrod and no one else regarding the Andreth thing. Or Angrod blowing up at Thingol after stewing about it without discussing it with people other than Aegnor who would have probably had more helpful ideas for handling it.

4. Going off that, I think of Finrod and Galadriel being like, really highly intelligent (for a certain measure of intelligence lol) and with very well-thought-out well-reasoned ideas and opinions, and Angrod and Aegnor...very not so, Finrod and Galads both facing a bit of a block in being super good friends-who-talk-a-lot with each of their closest-in-age sibling (Angrod for Finrod and Aegnor for Galadriel), from either end of the line, and then kind of...rediscovering each other as close-to-equals and quite complementary intellectual companions once Galadriel wasn’t a kid anymore...? But probably without the level of....like, perpetual motion pushiness of like Finrod+Andreth, I think young Galadriel would more of a bubble-burster in conversations, especially with people like Finrod, and doubly-especially Finrod himself.

5. Angrod and Aegnor teasing Galadriel a lot....in a friendly way, but like not really taking into account how much it bothers her and makes her feel stupid and little  when she really really hates feeling stupid or like the littlest one? I always feel like she really hated being the youngest in her family both immediate and extended.

6. I’m feeling like...Aegnor and Angrod both being naturally a little disinclined to show softer emotions or even kind of repressed and inclined to kill things instead of talking to feel better, but Angrod having an apparatus for sublimating his feelings into commitments via his relationship with his wife and son, and Aegnor...not really having this, also Aegnor always having this strong but mostly secret and very-rarely-used venting/confessional dynamic with Finrod as an offshoot of this issue.

7. Uh, for some reason I like to think of Angrod having a lot in common with Olwe’s wife. IDK, just an outta nowhere hc. Also Angrod the “watch out here it comes” disruptive but mostly harmless one, but Aegnor the less obvious but really intense and alarming one, but both having middle child stuff.

8. Finarfin the sane one in this family too, not just his other family. Earwen being very sweet/friendly but incredibly opinionated and kind of....ridiculous, like 75% of the time it’s always Finarfin encountering Earwen + various numbers of kids in the middle of some kind of disaster and throwing up his hands. Also Earwen being like, very invested in Teaching Her Kids How To Be Teleri Too and being really enthusiastic about her cultural stuff, so most of these involve water.

9. Galadriel teasing Aegnor f o r e v e r over his ridiculous mother-name, only for the tables to turn and Aegnor teasing Galadriel f o r e v e r over her even more ridiculous mother-name until she cheats and is just like “lol what name, i got this new name now i’m not answering to anything else, also btw i just got married, you guys need to keep up with the program.” Galadriel now wins every argument by saying “But the Sindar do it like--”