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Now that Epic is getting the recognition it deserves I think it's a great time to remind the general public that the name Odysseus is generally theorized to have originated from the Greek verb "ὀδύσσομαι" which basically translates to "to hate". Imagine you're born and your parents name you Hater
#fun fact outis means nobody and sounds like odys#so ody basically made a pun on his name to polyphemus#also it was autolycus who named odysseus that#after his status as a thief#and odysseus lived up to his name#telemachus' name means far fighter#after odys skill with a bow#and hope that he would grow up far from war#penelopes name means weaver#did the Spanish verb odiar#to hate#come from odysseus#oh yeah autolycus means the wolf itself#which gives context to the pack of wolves is swimming with the sharks line#i guess#perseus means destroyer of her life#or smth like that#her probably means medusa#anyways#thank you for coming to my ted talk#on names in greek mythology
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Athena, who probably got handed baby Telemachus, looked at Odysseus, and went “what the fuck Ody. It’s underdeveloped. Send it back to fully form.”
#The problems of coming out as a full adult from your father’s head#the odyssey#odysseus#athena#telemachus#epic the wisdom saga#jorge rivera herrans#epic the musical
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It saddens me that Helen of SPARTA is mostly known as Helen of TROY. As if she wasn't born, raised, and most likely, died in Sparta. Yes, she was of TROY for a while...But she was able to go back home to where she WANTED TO BE.
(Edit: Hating on Menelaus is illegal)
#makes me sad that when I want to tag her. it goes staight to “Troy” . Hector. Andromache. Priam. etc. are of TROY. she was only for acouple#years compared to that being their HOME. SHE wanted to go to HER home. MEH#idk what a good comparison would be but maybe like going abroad for job/school/etc. for a while. and then coming back home.#Are you now only known for what you did for a short while away from your home when you've spent the rest of your life home otherwise?#helen of troy#greek mythology#tagamemnon#helen of sparta#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus
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the family
#odysseus#penelope#telemachus#the odyssey#greek mythology#greek myth art#epic the musical#??#where the FUCK did that line come from
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Okay I'm feeling kinda silly so imagine if you will,
Odysseus and Penelope walking along the beach with their sons (Astyanax lives :P) just all four of them enjoying finally being together. But then Astyanax points out something floating towards them in the distance—a basket? Astyanax and Telemachus rush forward to investigate their parents following after. Before either boy can step into the water to retrieve it the waves push it forward onto the bank in front of Odysseus's feet. He kneels down, takes the little lid off the basket, and OH! Would you look at that, it's a baby! Covered in a fine silk blanket, cooing up at him with big blue eyes and brown hair so dark it almost looks black, surrounded by seashells and holding a little wooden horse. Both his and Penelope's mouths drop, Astyanax wants to know if they can keep it, and Telemachus is just confused.
#epic the musical#odysseus#epicthemusical#epic odysseus#telemachus#astyanax#astyanax lives au#manwhore au#epic penelope#epic poseidon#epic#Astyanax: Wait...So babies come from the ocean? Poseidon gives us babies?#Telemachus: I'm confused why is Poseidon giving us a baby?#Odysseus: *Wondering if Telemachus is old enough to know the full extent of what he had to do to get home*#Penelope: *Wondering what Odysseus left out because he told her he bottomed*
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ahh elizabeth vandiver's lectures pointing out a heartbreaking moment in the odyssey i wasn't even aware of:
telemachus addresses eumaeus the swineherd as atta (ἄττα). in my fagles edition it's translated as "old friend", but as vandiver points out, atta has two meanings: it can be used as a familiar-but-respectful form of address to an older man (which is how telemachus uses it), but significantly it's also baby-talk for "father", parallel to papa/dada. it's what telemachus WOULD have called odysseus growing up, but now telemachus refers to him as xenos, a visiting stranger/foreigner.
like imagine. odysseus is in disguise as a beggar, it's the first time he's seen his son since infancy, and one of the first things he hears telemachus say, to another man, is "daddy, who is this stranger?"
#it's the switched roles! the topsy turvy conditions that have developed at ithaca in odysseus' absence#okay technically he asks 'from where does this stranger come to visit you' but he is ESSENTIALLY asking for his identity#and like of course it's wonderful that telemachus knows to trust and look out for eumaeus who is a really good person#eumaeus greets him with kisses like a father when odysseus can't#and odysseus does not act jealous of their bond but. how clear the loss of that time together IS at that moment#tagamemnon#the odyssey#odysseus#telemachus#eumaeus
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*taps mic*
*clears throat*
Polites would've loved Telemachus
*walks off the stage*
#came to this realization from a convo wth a friend as we were ranting lmfaoooo#Odysseus mourning Polites only to come home to see that shining smile once more but now on Telemachus' face#Odysseus seeing his best friend in his son#bloopnik rambles#epic the musical#epic the wisdom saga#epic#polites#epic polites#telemachus#telemachus epic the musical#epic the musical telemachus#epic the musical polites#polites epic the musical#odysseus#the odyssey#odysseus epic#odyssey
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Odysseus loves Penelope more than life itself but he would NEVER let her win at game night
#maybe the first time they played a game he went soft on her but she kicked his ass so fucking hard he still gets war flashbacks#and from that day on he vowed to avenge himself#odypen#odysseus#penelope of sparta#penelope of ithaca#Telemachus is terrified of game night#he is always mysteriously busy when game night comes around
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Tagging stuff on ao3 feels like the thing christians do alone with the priest... Yes father I put Odysseus on a leash... Again... Yes he's on his knees... Yes, again...
I REGRET NOTHING AND THE ONLY REASON I KNOW SHAME IS, IS THE VOCABULARY
#odysseus#whump#epic the musical#manwhore au#listen when the#vengeance saga#comes out#we'll all have new whumpy material#gotta milk this while we can#my takes#from my manwhore au - asshole crew
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Time forgets most (DPxDC)
I've been getting too many brain worms that I need to clear out the cramp space that is my idea vault. In doing so, I'm just posting off-handed, random things I've typed up at work. (Partly so my drafts don't just end up like my vault). Without further ado, a much too too long post
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The movement of time is a much too complex thing for many to understand. The knowledge that time was not perfectly linear. The past did not simply stay in the past. The future is not simply something to look forward to. The present is not simply a fleeting moment.
Time is a complex web. Every point in time, connected to another point in time. A never-ending mess of webs and connections. Things that are to be. Things that can be. Things that are being. Things that will never see the light of day in this universe.
Despite what some may want to believe, Time has no master. Time does not yield to any singular being. That did not mean that Time didn't need a helping hand. A guiding hand to help keep the chaos of time to something just a little more... fluid.
The being came to exist well before the universe had. The being was festered, taught, and nurtured in a small pocket dimension. A small space just like an incubator.
Until the world blossomed around it. Life started to grow. Time kept moving. Living organisms found untimely deaths. Evolved, learned, and grew into the new space around it.
When the first little creature crawled out of the water, Time's keeper was let free. A bumbling little thing, breaming with life and curiosity.
Just like everything else in the world, this keeper wasn't safe from time. It still moved. Brought forth problems and adventures.
As time continued to tick. Moving in every direction, the keeper continued to age. Unlike the rest of the universe, the keeper didn't age the same as others.
Some days, he was nothing but a small boy, frolicking in a field of flowers and bees. Other days, he was a strong middle-aged man. Pulling the strings in just the right way, pushing for a timeline that felt right.
On days that have been happening much more often. He was but a crippled old man, hunched over his staff, and dropping much needed wisdom on the young lives around him.
Being the keeper of time wasn't an easy feat. Being completely out of time, experiencing things in broken order. There was only a clear start, and a jumble of things that followed.
The keeper was content with his life. Watching over the world as it grew and blossomed. He was content with his special kind of solitude.
That was until he saw the boy. In the webs of moments, the keeper's gaze had found him. A boy much too young, suddenly with powers much too great thrusted upon him.
The keeper watched the scenes play out. The tears, laughter, humiliation, triumph, and pain. He watched as the boy's family was ripped from him. Watched the twisted attempt at fixing his life, only for it to go horribly wrong.
He watched the bloodshed and chaos that erupted. The lives ripped apart and destroyed. Not a single sign of life left behind.
Then he watched as the boy, no, not a boy anymore. The keeper watched as the monster tore through the fabric of time. Ripped its way through the thin veils that divided the universes.
Universes that had never known the boy's existence were torn to shreds to. A flight driven with pain and anger.
Despite the keeper having seen the boy turn into such a monster. He could see it in the beast's eyes. The deep-seated need for a family, a life. To be loved.
Something about the boy's life, his story, spoke to the keeper. He found himself reaching out into the web of lives and moments. Finding the moment when things went the most wrong for the boy.
Just like that, the keeper had inserted himself into a life. He pulled the boy out of the cruel stream of time. Filled the boy with the knowledge he needed. Let the boy see just what could happen if he let it.
The keeper of time was soon a simple mentor. A simple deity looking out for the world. Taking on the mantel of Clockwork and finding a new purpose for his life.
A young boy's life has been flipped upside down two times now. And there were certainly more to come. This time, the boy wasn't alone. He had a guiding hand, and a communtiy behind him.
The keeper, no, Clockwork watched with a strange pride and happiness he hadn't felt in a long time. The boy was quickly surrounded by a family that helped him navigate his new powers.
Clockwork, alongside many of the other ghostly beings, watched on with pride as the young boy grew into a strong young man. Mastering powers, taking a stand, and making their home safe.
Despite the best efforts, time always beings problems.
It was one thing for Clockwork. He was the keeper of time. His life has reason to exist as long as time exists. Which will always be. His purpose was infinite.
But this boy... Danny wasn't like Clockwork. He was still partially human and terrified of losing his humanity. Danny's story had to come to an end, it's how time works.
Except, Danny wasn't in the timeline anymore. Clockwork had ensured that, pulled Danny into a separate timeline. An unaccounted for timeline.
He couldn't live here forever, not the way that Clockwork could. Danny needs a life, a family, a place, a purpose. He was still human.
It took more effort than Clockwork would have liked. He had to cash in favors from other deities that he hadn't spoken to in centuries.
It took a combined effort of everyone who cared for the little halfa. The strange boy that teeter on the line between life and death. The boy who had freed the Zone from a tyrant. Who wanted nothing more than for everyone to live a happy and filled life/afterlife.
Getting the magic and spells right was the hard part. But finding the location was easy. A beautiful planet just on the edge of the Milky Way. Unlikely to be disturbed or hurt.
The planet was undiscovered, primative even. Far enough from humans that Clockwork was certain Danny wouldn't be bothered. Only one species lived on that planet. Along the jungle like fauna, and in the water.
Cute little guys, barely bigger than two feet long and one foot tall. There was no name, no knowledge about them. Aside from Clockwork analyzing their way of life.
A simple cycle. They were born, they aged, they played, fed, mated, and then died. A simple but content life.
The aliens weren't unsettling. At least not to anyone who has seen more creatures than what Earth has to offer. It is a strange combination between frog, fish, and squid.
Scurrying around on two legs and four tentacles. A small frog-like face with eyes that seemed to take up half that space. Colors vary from blues to greens to the same sandy brown found at the bottom of the lakes.
Before long, the planet had its own protector. A young boy who once was lost and alone seemed to meld perfectly with these aliens.
Clockwork was always sure of himself. He never let anyone see otherwise. Except, Clockwork hadn't been sure. Not when he had performed the ritual.
As he molded and changed Danny's DNA until the man was a new being entirely. To anyone who didn't know the full story, the boy could easily look related to the aliens.
Gills now painted the sides of his neck, not necessary, but Clockwork felt like it had been. Webbed hands and feet to make transversing the underwater caves even easier. An ethereal, almost siren-like touch to Danny.
It worked out perfectly. Danny settled in easily. Building a routine and bound with the aliens. It hadn't been hard for the little creature to take a liking to him.
Before long, it was routine. Danny would spend most of his time on the planet, watching over his new wards. On some days, he'd portal back to the zone. Spend time with the ghosts and deities that saved his life. To check in on the new govermental system that had been put in place.
It was perfect. Simple and nice. Everyone got complacent. The longer time went on without a hiccup or a problem. The longer Danny was able to rest in his odd solitude. The more people got comfortable.
The more they forgot that time was as cruel as it was forgiving.
It had been just another day cycle. Danny was playing with the most recent litter birth. The first time he had seen the birth, he was more disgusted than anything else.
After the third time, Danny had started getting excited. He looked forward to it. Loved seeing the aliens flourish and grow. Watching them thrive and find more fun in the things Danny creates. Every new fun game or obstacle was always made with the things natural to the planet. Or debris that was caught in its gravitational pull.
Danny was playing with Plop. The little guy got his name, and he always plopped out of the water. Unlike the other aliens, this one didn't crawl out. No, he'd pull himself out of the water with his tentacles, only to plop down on the ground.
Of course, Plop had also been the first alien to approach Danny when he arrived. It's how they formed such a strong bond.
Everything had seemed perfectly fine. The day was rolling along just like it always did. That was until a small group of the more elder aliens suddenly came scurrying into their main cave.
They hadn't waited a second before diving into the water. Danny watched, confused and concerned, as each one of them grabbed one of the young. Before shooting straight into the underwater cave system.
The once bustling and living cave was suddenly eerily quiet and void of any aliens. Leaving behind only the confused Danny in the pool.
At least that's what a certain Green Lantern saw when he followed the trail of retreating aliens.
This planet had been categorized to have no signs of intelligent life. It seemed to have the option to nurture life, but there had been no signs.
When Hal Jordan got word of a seeming spike of activity from the supposedly empty planet, he had added it to his rooster.
A quick peek, just a look into what kind of life might be starting to grow there. The little aliens he had seen were adorable, sure. But they didn't seem all that evolved. Still in their evolutionary journey.
That was until Hal saw him.
Now, Hal was no stranger to running into ethereal beauty. It's what happens when someone interacts with aliens on a basic daily. That was something he was used to.
Except, all his breath seemed to be knocked out of him completely. The cave alone was stunning, a stark contrast from the almost barren surface he had first seen.
A deep, shimmering blue pool that vanished into the rocky space around it. Trees, bushes, and flowers decorate the area. It looked almost too good to be true. Like an oasis in the middle of a desert.
Then there was the being that caught all of Hal's attention. Bright blue eyes that looked like gems, pale blue-tinged skin. Long black and white hair seemed to look almost like the night sky. A deep abyss littered with stars.
The closest thing that Hal's brain supplied was a siren. A beautiful, ethereal creature that lured men to their deaths. As beautiful as it seemed, Hal knew there could easily be danger.
Except, the creature didn't attack or threaten him.
Instead, he seemed almost shy. Mouth opening and closing like a fish out of water, sharp deadly teeth flashing in the light with each motion.
Hal had just opened his mouth, taken a hesitant step forward. He wanted to know, and he needed to know how this happened. There wasn't supposed to be an intelligent, sophisticated life on this planet.
The moment Hal's lips parted, the creature let out a trill. A sound that seemed more scared than aggressive. Before suddenly, the beautiful creature vanished into the pool.
Hal moved before he could think, rushing to the edge of the pool. He peered into the crystal clear water, just in time to take the webbed feet of the creature vanish into a tunnel.
Now that left Hal with two options. He could either report this and wait for backup...
Or...
Or...
He could jump inside. The ring would protect him, and his lungs would be fine. Perks of being a Green Lantern.
That option seemed much more tempting to Hal. Nothing about this scream an outright threat. He felt more like a strange imposing on someone's home. A home that was meant for safety and protection of the young.
Yet, the shimmering water seemed to be calling to Hal. Something in him was trying to push him to get inside. To find the beautiful creature and learn more. Learn how this happened.
Without realizing it, Hal Jordan sealed his fate the moment he dipped a finger into the cool pool. Rippling the steady surface just slightly.
Just enough to get him wrapped up in the strange web created by time and its keeper.
#danny phantom#fandom things#fandom#danny fenton#phandom#dc x dp#dp x dc au#dp x dc crossover#dc comics#dc hal jordan#hal jordan#dc green lantern#green lantern#long post#I love all the posts that evolves Danny into something more than just a halfa#I've been having this idea of Siren!Danny#We're gonna ignore the fact that I got the idea for this from a Ghostsoap fic#I also like to blame the Circe saga from Epic the musical#Please I'm so whipped by that musical#I can't get over Circe and Odysseus' songs#Anyways Hal was ready to die for Danny at just one look#after he manages to get closer#to see Danny take care of and nuture the aliens#it's over for Hal#“I've only know this weirdly ethereal man for five minutes. but if anything happens to him I'm killing everyone in the room and then myself”#if it's not clear enough this is very much adult Danny who technically lived through millenniums but still just looks to be in his twenties#I love this idea sm even if I don't do much for it#I mean come on#I would kill to have art of Hal meeting Danny as my wallpaper#Time forgets most AU
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i think after odysseus leaves calypsos island athena should try to reach out to him and get hit with seven years worth of praying begging pleading screams cries sobs etc
#canon to me#i need to draw that sometime#being blocked from a server and coming back to one million billion missed messages and calls#ochi orates#epic the musical#odysseus#athena
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(check the tags for more and also the tag for other fics in the story!)
athena, scowling as she gets bullied into marrying the people she pined over for the last 1000 years, suddenly realising something: wait a minute
odysseus: what?
athena, frozen: wait a damn minute you know what this gives me rights to do
penelope, also realising: oh fuck yes
odysseus: I don't like the sound of whatever's happening here what are you two fucking talking about?
athena, grabbing the marriage wine and tossing it back, then kissing her new wife and husband and handing penelope a spear as she picks up a mace: we'll be back shortly, you can start celebrations without us.
penelope: do u have anything that can start a fire
athena, pulling out an old contract and scanning it before throwing it over her shoulder: yes. are you scared of heights or can we fly.
penelope: fucking bring it I've waited years for this moment
zeus: where are they going
hermes, picking up the contract: they're going to... Ogygia? Oh fucking shit they're going to fucking kill Calypso- hey, hello, WAIT-
#odysseus disappears midway because athena plants one on him so hard his soul evaporates#(strategic to make him stop from coming after them and also from passion she forgot to hold back for once)#(and also shes maybe possibly in love and cant wait to get vengeance on Calypsos bitch ass who hurt him so much for so long)#penelope has had to deal with calypos afteraffects for literally the rest of their lives. from flashbacks to odysseus inconsolably crying#at her feet for forgiveness some days even though shes always said frim the first moment that it wasnt his fault#the rest of the gods have to chase them down to prevent them from eternally torturing calypso (goddesses cant die <3)#athenas blazing mad and sick with guilt and horror. she couldn't attack before because it would be seen as an attack from olympus#but as a wife! as two wifes! no political implications there no holds barred calypso gets her ass BEAT#but also pls imagine them chasing her and gods chasing them round and round the island while screaming#odysseus wavered like 17 times on whether to ask hermes for a lift there or not but goes in the end#their honeymoon in truth ends up being on ogygia#athena lovingly and seductively teaching penelope how to fillet a person both of them covered in ichor#odysseus with a hand over his mouth blushing grinning tears in eyes torn between turned on and terrified to be back and crying coz they lov#him that much.#((he goes to her just before they leave in the cave she used to drag him to. she can barely hold herself up and hes shaking to approach))#((but he's stronger now. settled and satisfied and content. he kneels by her and sets down bandages next to her.))#((i told you i was married he says. and because his truest weapon is his tongue- if youd just listened i wouldve found us both a way out))#she sobs and he leaves. the scars will never fade fully but he feels lighter as he steps out into the sun where athene and pen are waiting.#bloodsoaked and being shouted at by hera but smiling at him widely and gleefully as he approaches. takes a hand each and presses him btwn.#he squeezes back with a smile and leans into them. his beautiful horrifying wives#odypenath#odypenetha#odysseus#penelope#athena#odypen#odyath#penath#epic the musical#love in paradise
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Odysseus: "I need her to be Mine~" Athena: "...I can introduce you two." Odysseus: "What? Really?! Wait, you know her?" Athena: "Uh, yeah? You think you're my only pet trickster? You just said she was the 'smartest girl in the game', you think I'm gonna ignore that? I'll be right back."
Meanwhile~
Penelope: "...So...The guy who has been watching me from around corners before running away is also one of your favored mortals?" Athena: "Yes, I'm sorry, he's usually a lot smarter than this." Penelope: "...Eh, You know I've had stupid moments too. I'll go say hi."
#penelope#penelope of ithaca#epic penelope#epic odysseus#epic athena#odypen#odysseus and penelope#odysseus x penelope#odysseus/penelope#odysseus#athena#The potential fun ideas that come from Athena introducing these two as she knew them both before? Or maybe Athena shipping them both#but they see each other as “rivals” instead and Athena is like “NO! You're supposed to love each other not bicker!”#before they eventually fall in love? oooh that's a fun idea#(not doing it myself. I have my own plan for these goobers. but feel free to play with it if you wanna! :D )#Mad rambles#shot by odysseus#Mad memes#epic the musical#epicthemusical#I'm not tagging as odyssey as this is a song from Epic but yeh.#Athena can be an AroAce Icon and still ship her two favorite blorbos :3
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Cursed concept: Odydio mpreg, where one of them gets head-pregnant like Zeus did with Athena.
Bonus points if neither of them can figure out where the headache is coming from, so Athena has to give them “The Talk”.
#I’m sorry but everyone was talking about Athena not understanding where babies come from so I thought “but what if she was RIGHT”#odysseus#diomedes#odydio#athena#tagamemnon#mpreg#yes I know Athena’s mother was Metis this isn’t supposed to make sense#rosedtalks
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Hey hey do you think Athena almost went to go visit odysseus out of habit because she was bored and wanted someone to mess with, because she found a new move that would be perfect for him, because she had to witness some absolute idiocy and if she has to suffer odysseus does too and maybe after she wants he'll make some dumb joke that'll make her find the whole thing funny, because she misses him and didn't realize how lonely she was until she didn't have his friendship, because she cannot sleep at night and cannot stop replaying their last conversation over and over and over how as he screamed at her he had tears in his eyes and she---
#epic the musical#Athena#Odysseus#Athena almost visits odysseus so many times out of habit#Athena getting half way to the mortal realm before realizing what she was doing and that she was rightfully /pissed/ at him#And waiting for him to apologize and grovel before going to see him again#Later after love in paradise#As Athena is letting Apollo heal her#She can't help but reach into her well of prayers wondering if odysseus had reached out and she missed it somehow#And finding thousands of prays to her from odysseus#Half finished things where he starts to pray then cuts off with swears#Prayers that are just her name shouted in distress and out of reflex clearly coming from when odysseus was fighting some new monster#And prayer after prayer while he was trapped on Calypso's island begging her to end it to punish him in any other way#Prayer after prayer after prayer of odysseus/begging her while being assulted/#Athena nearly threw up when she heard them gods why hadn't she heard him ? Why did she not feel his prayers#Until after she had opened their old mental link she hadn't blocked him completely she should have heard#Who had prevent his prayers from reaching her?#This kinda turned into a different post in the tags whoops#Oh well not the first time not the last
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I like to think that when Telemachus was a baby, Odysseus referred to him as “my little owl” to honor Athena and all that just because I love the implications that it brings. Also the idea that when a god is given the title as god parent, the child gets some kind of feature from them, and obviously ody named Athena his godmom, so Telemachus maybe having Athena’s eyes, or her pure level of determination, just something that would make Odysseus raise an eyebrow like “wait a minute, I know that look…”
#this is my excuse to say that Telemachus looks like Penelope and Athena child#like he has a few features from Odysseus that can’t be ignored like face shape#but most of his features come from those two#ody gets home and is shocked when he sees his mentor looking at him through his child#still his little owl tho#epic the musical#odysseus
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