#cloak & swaggert

[hostdoozy]

A funny detail about Cloak & Swaggart

A common misconception spread around regarding the episode "Cloak & Swaggart" is that Rupert is the theft when in actuality- he's isn't. While Rupert is definitely not above such petty actions like thievery. In this case, he's very much innocent.

-OKAY OKAY PUT YOUR TOMATEOS DOWN! I KNOW HE'S BRITISH! Stop booing at me! BUT YOUR HONOUR! My client is innocent of this specific instance.

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In "Cloak and Swaggart" our favourite Girlboss duo go out partying after Splinter and his boys are off "camping". They are having the time of their lives, simply gals being pals.Yet something disastrous happens on girl's night leading to being the driving force of today's misadventure. Sunita's Brooch is stolen by a mysterious assailant. We know the thief of identity is unknown by judging the shape of their hand.

One could argue that this was an animation decision made by the team to make the twist a little more fun but this makes no sense from a narrative standpoint. Mr Loose Lips can't be the thief because A) look at his hands B) He isn't a Yokai or a mutant- he's never seen dawning a brooch indicating he may have an alternative form. Rupert can't be the thief because The Pigman has an alibi. This alibi is confirmed by Mr loose lips himself.

"Look kid, my clients suspect a certain level of discretion. Yea' think I'm just gonna tell yea that the brooch was bought by some big guy with a thick neck and an upturned nose an' paper hat, on his way to channel 6 ln a late-model charcoal grey stretch limousine?" If Rupert was the theft, then why would he bother showing up to Mr loose lips in the first place? it makes no sense. Even if we were to entertain the idea that this was a commission's work- it still wouldn't make sense. Rupert Swaggert in this regard, is innocent. He had no clue that the brooch belonged to someone else upon buying it. Keep in mind, that the British bastard had never met April or Suntia before this.

This makes the Episode even MORE funnier when you look through his lenses.

He can return to his old career which he suddenly lost due to his mutation. He finally found the means to take back his old life but within ONE DAY- Rupert was harassed by two teenagers, whom he had never met before EVER in his life. (then nearly got eaten by some yanks) From his perspective: He got robbed by some teens- for no reason

Before I close this off. I worry that some folks take away from the post is me shifting the blame onto April and Suntia which... no, I'm not. They're well within their right to take back a family heirloom which belongs to Sunita. besides They're TEENAGERS. Do you think April gonna go over to a known dangerous mutant and be like "Ermm, can we have that brooch back? " OF COURSE NOT. don't be insane. These girls deserve a crown.

What I'm doing is pointing out the hilarity of this scenario. We are all familiar with who Rupert is. He's an oversized porky jackass that has no problem committing extreme acts for his own benefit. We are SO used to his shittiness that putting "stealing from teenage girls" on his list of crimes wouldn't be out of the question. The only thing is... he didn't commit that here. Dude tried to get his old job back only to have some teenager mess with his life again. he never met them and to his knowledge, the Brooch was something he purchased.

So the Verdict?

Rupert is innocent in regards to Suntia's stolen brooch

As for everything else? all his other crimes? Guilty. Put this man away your honour.

case closed

[our-happygirl500-fan]

Something that I kind of noticed is that when the Turtles are trapped inside the Turtle Tank during the episode Cloak, and Swaggert we get a small insight into how they sort of act when they are stuck in stressful situation & are feeling overwhelmed

We see that Donnie desperately is trying to fix the problem & get his family out of the Turtle Tank we have kind of seen Donnie jump to problem solving when dealing with situations in previous episodes as typically in stressful situations Donnie seems to kind of treat the situation as something he can fix or solve

Donnie: I can fix this! I can fix this! I can totally fix this!

We see that Mikey is trying to distract himself by roasting marshmallows with a candle, which kind of gives a small insight to another side of Mikey's typically optimistic personality since while we do know that Mikey tends to try & look on the bright side of things it is also something he sort of uses to try to distract himself when he is upset about something

Mikey: I can’t put a smile on this crumb sandwich. What hope do we have?

We see that Raph has resorted to smashing panels, Raph kind of typically using smashing to try & solve problems & in previous episodes of Rise we have sort of seen Raph try to smash his way out of problems which can be seen in the episode Man vs. Sewer when he smashes everything around him while stressed

Raph: Time to panic!  I’m alone and panicking, panicking, panicking, panicking!

Meanwhile we see Leo curl into a ball, which is a habit that Leo seems to have where Leo will kind of curl into himself when feeling overwhelmed or stressed

Leo: Locked in a cage, failed in our mission, held for ransom by the Foot, and none of us gave him grandchildren! Somehow I think he wanted more

It seems as though when stuck in a stressful situation or feeling overwhelmed Donnie will try to fix the problem, Mikey will try to distract himself from the problem, Raph will try to smash the problem & Leo will curl into himself.

[bluepeachstudios]

I dont know if it's to late to ask, but is GitS Rise episode chapters going from broadcast order or production code order?

NEITHER because both are incorrect! Both put Lair Games before Many Unhappy Returns. I'm going in an order based on a list I found when I first watched the show, which is the order I watched it in! It makes the most sense to me, timeline-wise. I can no longer find said list, but I can just. List out the episode order I'm going by. Italicized are the episodes I've already passed/written, depending. Striked out are ones where Ghost wasn't involved.

Mystic Mayhem

Origami Tsunami

Donnie’s Gifts

Shell in a Cell

Minotaur Maze

War and Pizza

Newsworthy

Repomantis

Down with the Sickness

Fast and the Furriest

Mascot Melee

Bug Busters

Longest Fight

Hypno! Part Deux

The Gumbus

Mrs. Cuddles

Stuck on You

Al Be Back

The Purple Jacket

Pizza Pit

Smart Lair

Hot Soup: The Game

The Evil League of Mutants

Late Fee

Bullhop

Mind Meld

Nothing but Truffle

Shadow of Evil

Portal Jacked!

Warren & Hypno Sitting in a Tree

Operation: Normal

Sparring Partner

You Got Served

How to Make Enemies and Bend People to Your Will

Mystic Library

The Purple Game

Man VS. Sewer

The Mutant Menace

Turtle-dega Nights: The Ballad of Rat Man

The Ancient Art of Ninja Hide and Seek

One Man’s Junk

Snow Day

Cloak and Swaggert

Jupiter Jim Ahoy!

Insane in the Mama Train

End Game

Many Unhappy Returns

Todd Scouts

Goyles, Goyles, Goyles

Flushed but Never Forgotten

Lair Games

Breaking Purple

Repairin’ the Baron

Air Turtle

Pizza Puffs

Sidekick Ahoy!

The Hidden City Job

Always Be Brownies

Mystery Meat

Raph’s Ride-Along

Donnie vs. Witch Town

Hidden City’s Most Wanted

Bad Hair Day

Fists of Fury

The Clothes Don’t Make the Turtle

Battle Nexus: New York

The Finale

The Movie

[vaudeville-moggie]

and heres one from cloak and swaggert (I love that episode title)

dang she creeepppy

Somebody working on the rise movie thought they were SO funny (they were right)

(from the scene where Leo's like "yeah but I got it with style" when Raph is yelling at him BC they lost the key)

[nocturnalsleuth]

w

wait

did Meat Sweats/Rupert Swaggert turn cannibal-ish BEFORE or AFTER his mutation into a pigman???

i mean pigs are omnivores to the extreme so presumably after???

[fire-fira]

Okay, I’ve been meaning to do this for a while but kept getting derailed. Thankfully I’m fully caught up on Rise (though it took me forever) and I was able to mostly sort out the in-universe order for the episodes.

Because fun fact-- something I noticed way back in season 1-- is that the episodes weren’t released in in-universe order. This was true on cable, this has held true on netflix and hbo-max paramount+ (I goofed, oops), and while [turtlepedia] does have them listed in tv broadcast order and has the episode production codes listed, neither of those entirely match up with the various in-episode context clues for what order things happen in.

And believe me, some of those context clues, those in-episode “signposts” are subtle enough to be blink-and-you’ll-miss-it details (like the fact that the background video for Donnie and Mikey in Hypno! Part Deux! implies that it’s happening at the same time as Repomantis). Needless to say it’s taken a lot of work and a lot of paying attention. And thankfully season 2 wasn’t as all over the place (mainly due to more of the episodes not having any distinct signposts beyond things that made it obvious they took place after season 1).

(I’ve done my best to get it as nailed down as possible. Episodes that occur at the same time are listed on the same bulletpoint in recommended watching order.)

So good news if you’re like me and you’d like to watch the episodes in in-universe order, because this is that list!

Without further ado, I give you:

The In-Universe Rise Episode Timeline

Season 1:

Mystic Mayhem

Origami Tsunami

Donnie’s Gifts

Smart Lair

War And Pizza

Newsworthy

Repomantis & Hypno! Part Deux!

Down With The Sickness (Due to not really having any more than one possible signpost, this one could take place either before or after the previous point or The Purple Jacket. I don’t think it’s any later than that, but it’s debatable.)

The Purple Jacket

Minotaur Maze

The Longest Fight

The Fast And The Furriest

Stuck On You

Hot Soup: The Game

Mascot Melee

The Gumbus

Shell In A Cell

Pizza Pit

Bug Busters

Mrs. Cuddles (Like Down With The Sickness this one has very few signposts, only two that I spotted and one of those is debatable, but it does take place sometime after The Fast And The Furriest.)

Al Be Back

The Evil League of Mutants

Late Fee

Bullhop

Portal Jacked!

Mind Meld

Nothing But Truffle

Warren And Hypno, Sitting In A Tree

Shadow Of Evil

You Got Served

Operation: Normal

The Mutant Menace

Sparring Partner (This is another one where the placement isn’t entirely certain, but it is after Origami Tsunami, The Fast and the Furriest, and Shadow of Evil.)

How To Make Enemies And Bend People To Your Will

Mystic Library (This is another one where there aren’t enough signposts to be sure where this one belongs exactly, but this was my best guess.)

The Purple Game

Jupiter Jim Ahoy!

Cloak and Swaggert

Man Vs. Sewer

The Ancient Art of Ninja Hide and Seek

Turtle-dega Nights: The Ballad of Rat Man

One Man’s Junk

Snow Day (Yet another one where the time placement isn’t certain and this is my best guess, though it does take place sometime after Late Fee and possibly Jupiter Jim Ahoy!)

Insane in the Mama Train

End Game

Season 2

Many Unhappy Returns

Todd Scouts

Goyles, Goyles, Goyles

Flushed But Never Forgotten

Lair Games

Breaking Purple

Repairin’ the Baron

Air Turtle

Pizza Puffs

Sidekick Ahoy!

The Hidden City Job

Always Be Brownies

Mystery Meat

Donnie vs. Witch-Town, Raph’s Ride-Along, Hidden City’s Most Wanted, Bad Hair Day

Fists of Furry

The Clothes Don’t Make the Turtle

Battle Nexus: New York

Finale Part 1: E-Turtle Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Finale Part 2: Shreddy or Not

Finale Part 3: Anatawa Hitorijanai

Finale Part 4: Rise

Rise of the TMNT, the movie

Go forth and enjoy!

(And if anyone wants my rationalization on any of this, just hit me up and I can go in detail.)

[saschagemruler]

Any RotTMNT headcanons you feel like sharing? Can be for the Turtles, April or Splinter. Also, idk how many eps you've watched but, favorite episode so far?

ANON I LOVE YOU

Okay for reference, I’m halfway through episode 22A, Cloak and Swaggert. 

My fav. episode is probably the one where Donnie gets in good with the Purple Dragons only to have his babies taken away :<

Headcannons:

Donnie: ~Non-binary aroace (shut up lemme project in peace) ~Haaates being touched unless by a trusted family member ~Despises his shell ~Only a theater kid because of Leo ~He licks things. A lot. Usually cheeks. ~Has once eaten plastic ~Best dancer ~Befriended April first ~Ladies man but hates that he is ~No seriously he hates being flirted with leave him alone ~Will not wear a skirt or dress unless it’s an old lady costume or he genuinely needs to ~Picky eater ~Will eat raw sewer rats if not given enough meat ~Has almost eaten Splinter at least twice ~Not allowed to play video games ~Transmasc ~Has depression and anxiety  ~Cuddles are the best

Raph:  ~Genderfluid demiaroace (I have weird headcanons lemme live in pEACE) ~Teddy bear ~Knits ~Will get violent if needed ~He’s just... baby ~Scared of the dark ~Needs to eat meat but will just gently poke Mikey until he cooks some meat ~Stresses out when he’s put in charge. Not during battles, just during everyday life ~Tried to shop for grocies once. He forgot meat. He is not allowed to shop for grocies anymore ~He’s very easily spooked and needs daily cuddles ~Is the only turt with a social media account ~Actually listens to Donnie ~Struggles with written English but is very fluent in written Japanese ~Has nothing against skirts but just can’t find any that are comfortable or look good so he doens’t bother ~Can’t tell if you’re flirting with him ~Anger issues :<

Leo: ~Aro demiboy (Are most of the turts aro? Yes. I’m aro. hisss) ~Second best dancer ~Doesn’t like meat all that much ~Ya know how some people are flamboyantly gay? He’s flamboyantly aro. ~Eyeliner always on point ~Will wear skirts and dresses when he’s in the mood ~Designs the clothes the turts wear ~Will put makeup on his stripes to emphasize them

Mikey: ~Gay and agender (none of these turtles are cis or straight) ~Goes through a boy-crazy phase and no one has a good time ~Will sometimes wear a skirt if it’s warm enough and he’s with people he trusts ~Has chronic anxiety  ~Prefers manga but reads any comics ~He’s actually pretty smart, just doesn’t show it unless prodded enough ~Transmasc ~Cooks all the meals.

The bros: ~Japanese is their first language, and they’re all very fluent and can write in it perfectly ~English is their second and in order of who does the best with reading and writing in it is Donnie, Mikey, Leo, and Raph ~They hate big dogs ~Sometimes they all sleep on top of Raph because why not ~Leo and Raph co-lead ~Sometimes Donnie or Mikey have panick attacks, so all the turts carry a bag of lettuce around to shove in their face. Chewing it helps ~Last time Donnie and Leo got along, half of NYC was nearly blown up ~Leo is fluent in spoken Spanish, but doesn’t know how to read or write in it, so if presented with written Spanish, he’ll have Donnie sound out the letters so he can translate it. It works surprisely well ~Donnie knows French, Raph knows Russian, Mikey knows Italien, and Leo knows Spanish ~When Donnie licks them: Raph licks back, Mikey bonks their heads together, and Leo hisses at him, calling him gross ~Donnie licks Leo the most because of his reaction ~Sometimes they’ll start talking in Japanese without noticing and April is learning Japanese because of that. ~When they forget a word in Japanese or English, they ask Donnie. ~When asked “Who likes boys?” Raph, Leo, and Mikey raise their hands, Donnie does not. When asked who like girls, no one raises their hands.

[fluideli123]

[ID: tags from @trujellyfish that read: rottmnt#tmnt#i love this#i was thinking about the truffle when i was rewatching a while ago bc like#its just out there? who else knows?#did swaggert learn about it before or after he mutated?#its implied that he knew beforehand but that gives me more questions#dude just happened upon a magic tree and went with it?#i mean i guess i believe it since he seemed to adjust to being a mutant pretty easily#but still like the amount of shit they had to go through just to get to the tree like how did he find out about it in the first place?#does he have prior knowledge of yokai? met one who told him where to find the most amazing truffle ever?#has he been to the hidden city??#and yeah like how did that truffle and the tree even happen?? kraang blood?? bc i cant imagine it was draxums ooze#it wasnt perfected until the turtles were teens iirc#lmfao sorry about all my tags op#but i have questionsssssssss#i love lore and small details i just love KNOWING THINGS#and yeah i really wanted to know more about donnie's library achievements bc lmfao of course he has those. / End ID]

First of all, never apologize for rambling in the tags of my post. It's one of my favorite things ever, just to see people's brains cooking up things and spilling whatever in the tag!

Secondly, this is exactly what I'm talking about! Plus, it raises the question of how many more Yokai and Mystic things are on the surface? In this universe, do human beings call this natural and brush it off because it's something that's always been there? Is it cloaked to humans but not mutants and yokai? What is the history of how those mystic foods were created? Was it from the past when Yokai used to live up top before being forced to live underground? Is there some lore to it? Some cultural aspects? Also, what do you mean Jupiter made an eclipse with the Earth's moon for the Truffles? How does that work? We know Yokai go to the surface so who would have told Meatsweats? There are so many questions AND SO LITTLE ANSWERS???

Also, regarding Donnie's achievements, what do Mikey and Raph have awards for, whether it's something they participated in their household or in the human world? Do they have awards? And if not, why? If they do then what for and why?

I could ask so many questions and come up with my own answers, but that doesn't change the fact that like- oh my god? Hello? Why aren't we making up more Hidden City lore and what the turtles have done in their childhoods that are still a tradition today and how they interact in the human world while growing up other than through Splinter and their access to media?

I feel like it's hilarious that Leo is the 5 time champ of lair games but no one mentions the fact Donnie has 3 whole ass awards and a library card mentioned in the Mystic Library episode. And no one dives into the fact that not only does Donnie frequent libraries to the point he has a special library card but the fact he's participated in library activities before to win three times.

Also the fact Raphael canonly has a peanut allergy (Mascot Melee). That not only does Leo not believe in ghosts, but how that might affect the fact he's met the spirits of his ancestors (The Gumbus). Or that mystic creatures/food ingredients exist in nature naturally outside of the Hidden City (Nothing But Truffle).