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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Imagine just peeking into a room and seeing Claude and Sebastian dancing ā€” one is completely blindfolded and talking for two (Sebastian) and the other is completely silent and letting the other lead (Claude), because Ciel had ordered Sebastian not to see Claude again, and Claude had been ordered to not talk to/ignore Sebastian the next time he saw him.
All they wanted to do again was dance.
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 1 year ago
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@dadbastiandisaster These are all words I agree with! (Praise towards myself aside, because otherwise that would be self righteous.)
So do you like Claude as a character?
Like as in 'enjoy seeing different ways he's portrayed': Yes! He gives people a lot to work with, and it's always interesting seeing how he's written in a different story. whether he's giving different insight on demons or just being a perfect villain or being Sebastian's bitter ex, he's very interesting
Like as in 'enjoy seeing him in season 2': I'm always mourning the fumbling of potential, but he stands as a surpisingly nuanced and interesting villain. there's a reason he has more staying power than either of the angels, and that's because he really is an fascinating, terrifying agent of change in the story. for all its bad writing, I LOVE season 2 because of this!
Like as in 'want to be in a contract/nearby/in a conversation with him': HELL NO*
*depends if there's a glass wall between us
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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The day I wanna reread coattails (for the reasons weā€™re well aware of) is the day that ao3 decides to pull a 503. Theyā€™re killing us.
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Iā€™ve convinced @nullb1rdbonesā€™ Alois AI that Claude is his (surrogate) dad.
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Wdym Claude was doomed by the writing and not narrative I'm curious to see how that differe
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You seem nice enough, so I assume youā€™re not here to tell me that Iā€™m shit at using words, and for that Iā€™m grateful. šŸ˜…
(After posting this Iā€™m going to go back to posts which I reference/would give further explanation to my ramblings, so if by chance you read this before all the links are added, Iā€™d recommend coming back.)
Actually, what I mean by that is that Claudeā€™s character (general consensus thereof aside, being: flat, unreactive, dispassionate, etc., especially in contrast to Alois and, especially, Sebastian) is quite inconsistent.
In fact, from what I remember, episode one and six appear to have the most consistent Claude in comparison to the rest of the season (oh god, including ā€œthe derailmentā€ in episode nine but thatā€™s to be expectedā€”but more on that in a minute).
That being said, episode six then had a minutely different Alois/undertone to episode one (episode one being the ā€œset upā€ episode that I refer back to for my darling, darling sliver of the endangered ā€œSoft Claudeā€), with Alois referencing ā€œpunishing Claudeā€ when prior to and even after this itā€™s never brought up at all, and the esteem in which Alois holds Claude anyway disallows him from ever ā€œpunishingā€ him, anyway, so it feels quite out of character in that regard.
Episode nine is the blood tasting episode, if I recall correctly (or, perhaps that is at the very end of episode eight?) is, what I call, ā€œthe derailmentā€, for the whole series and plot completely shifts tonally and so does the characterisation of Claude.
Claude was eventually the scapegoat for the writers trying to get back on track from the ā€œset up of recurring charactersā€ theyā€™d had in practice to the ā€œseason exclusive arcā€ they had on paper. For that, Claudeā€™s characterisation suffered.
Hashtag Flanderisation, am I right, gamers? (Please donā€™t sue me.)
It wasnā€™t even flanderisation, technically, either! Because most of the attributes inflated (ie. ā€œcreepinessā€ and ā€œperversenessā€) post-blood tasting werenā€™t present let alone even hinted to in prior episodes, inconsistent characterisation of all season-exclusive parties aside!
Iā€™m a big advocate for ā€œClaudeā€™s characterisation deserved betterā€ (then with the immediate clarification of ā€œnot his characterā€”just his characterisationā€).
In fact, it was @indigoipsum that brought to light the popular hypothesis that each episode was written by a different writing team, hence the inconsistencies (some of which were exclusive to an episode each, like Claudeā€™s ā€œsoft momentā€ in episode one or Aloisā€™ mentions of punishing Claude in episode six, to name some, but there are more). An idea which none of us have gone back to check the seasonā€™s credits to prove, and so it just floats in the air, unproven, and weā€™re okay with that.
(Itā€™s also an idea that made me a bit upset, for whatever reason, because Iā€™d become quite attached to the ā€œSoft Claudeā€ scene in episode one, as Iā€™d rewatched the episode to analyse Claude and Alois for a fic. For the record Iā€™d pumped out like a billion bullet points after going frame by frame analysing anything I could.)
I go into further detail of it here, a post that was prompted by Indigo telling me the aforementioned theory.
As far as season two goes, someone with a better recollection than me would be @nullb1rdbones, who tends to rewatch it all on the near-daily, it seems, so off I send you for further in-detail questions about the season, and not Claude / ramblings about the writing (of which you are more than welcome to come back to me whenever you feel you must).
So I guess, what I mean by what youā€™re asking, is that the ā€œnarrativeā€ would be the perspective of which heā€™d been put into the story (I donā€™t doubt he was always meant to be the season villain, but in the beginning it certainly wasnā€™t delivered as thoroughly as what it was later on), but the writing wasā€¦ the writing made it worse, I guess is what Iā€™m trying to say.
Hopefully, that clears some of the confusion (explaining myself is hard).
And, hopefully, I do these characters more justice than the canon ever did (and what they deserve because not believing that good writing is what they deserve makes me sad. Fuck you, estrogen šŸ–•) in my upcoming fic, Claudetails.
I doubt it will be hard, though. The badness of writing makes it so easy to trump it. (And yet so, so difficult.)
Thanks for the ask, anon! Hope you come again soon.
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Guess what day it is?
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Iā€™m watching episode seven of season two ā€” Claude regards Druitt in a polite manner which is contradictory to how he doesnā€™t even glance at him in episode one. That being said Iā€™m going to grasp onto this forever.
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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A playlist for Claude and Alois. May or may not turn into the playlist I use for Claudetails (though that may just be reserved for my Claude playlist).
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Couldnā€™t shake some Claudetails ideas out of my head during classes, so I had to write it all down.
Apologies for my handwriting. (Those who are interested in the fic should know nothing is set in stone.)
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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I have so many thoughts on thisā€¦
Fuck it
šŸ•øļøšŸ•·ļøāœØClaude headcanonsāœØšŸ•·ļøšŸ•øļø
Yes i know his characterisation is utter shit and yes i am taking a marie kondo approach to the s2 canon
Sebastian had at least been around humans before his contract, so he at least had a passing idea of how to Human. Claude had not. Only interacted with humans ever if murder counts.
Heā€™s actually short-sighted (someone on a wattpad book Black Butler Headcanons I canā€™t find for the life of me because wattpad utterly fucked up their search system suggested this was because his true form has eight eyes and I love it. I think the person who wrote it was called something like ā€˜The King Fisherā€™, so if that sounds familiar, say and Iā€™ll tag you)
He has very little concept of social norms. Alois will be like ā€˜men are supposed to wear trousers and women are supposed to wear skirts >:(ā€˜ and claude will be like
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Theyā€™re both coming at the ā€˜gender is bullshitā€™ thing from two very different places
Sebastian is over-achieving as far as Claudeā€™s concerned. Heā€™s got three other Demons working for him and heā€™s going to make the most of it, there is no benefit from doing more than he has to.
He has mixed feeling about Alois. On the one hand he does know that Aloisā€™ situation is not great and has even grown somewhat fond of him (platonically i swear to fuck some people in this fandom) but on the other there are few people on the planet less equipped to help than him.
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Jokes aside, I imagine itā€™s a he/they/it situation, but itā€™s the Victorian era so Alois was like ā€˜well youā€™re probably not a woman so unfortunately that leaves you with one other optionā€™ and Claude was like ā€˜thatā€™s fine, how long could these contract things last anyway?ā€™
His life pre-contract was basically just surviving in Hell, which has left him with extensive knowledge of nature and no sense of identity
Hates people, loves animals!
Took the contract more out of curiosity than anything else. He fucked around and found out!
Most of Alois and his contract is ā€˜if you have no idea what youā€™re supposed to be doing and I have no idea what Iā€™m supposed to be doing whoā€™s driving this ship?ā€™
The answer is Hannah obviously
My interpretation of the Hannah-Claude situation is that Claude (somehow) knows that Hannah killed Aloisā€™ brother and that chasing after Sebastian is totally pointless, but if he tells Alois, Hannah will kill him (I hc Hannah as a very old, very powerful Demon). Hannah would just kill Hannah obviously doesnā€™t want Alois to find out the truth, so she has to sabotage quite a lot of Aloisā€™ plans (which Claude has to carry out, so it makes his life a lot harder, which is Not A Vibe as far as Claudeā€™s concerned)
Plus Hannah is like ā€˜actually youā€™re doing a shit job with Aloisā€™ (true) ā€˜and if I had this contract instead of you he would be fineā€™ (not true)
Sort of mid-level Demon. Like heā€™s in pretty good health (aside from the crappy eyesight) but heā€™s not especially skilled in combat. Heā€™s just sort of meh.
He likes knitting, crocheting, sewing, lace-making etc because itā€™s similar to web-building and he finds it relaxing
Sebastian fucking hates him after the Ciel kidnapping incident but the hatred is entirely one-sided. Claude does not give a singular shit about Sebastian, just thinks heā€™s (as the kids say) a bit of a try-hard
Knows for a Fact that Alois is a lot smarter than he lets on. Doesnā€™t rat him out on it though, he doesnā€™t get paid extra to be a snitch, and heā€™d probably do the same if the situation allowed
Iā€™m torn between ā€˜totally non-judgementalā€™ and ā€˜is a massive bitchā€™, so I think itā€™s both. Totally non-judgemental is heā€™s ambivalent to/likes you, if he dislikes you he is judging you on everything you do right down to how you butter your toast and will chat shit behind your back
Even he didnā€™t like the previous Earl Trancy
Really not a fan of physical affection
I think if he and Aunt Frances met, it would be a case of unstoppable force (Aunt Frances knowing that Claude is doing 10000 things wrong and cutting so many corners he now as a circle) vs immovable object (Claude doesnā€™t care). The Sebastian - Aunt Frances dynamic heavily relies on Sebastian caring about her opinion and Claude simply does not have that problem.
Unlike Sebastian, he sometimes sleeps.
I donā€™t think heā€™s aro/ace heā€™s just never really had much of a chance to explore any of that,
Anyway, I will stop for now, this is already very long. I might make ones for Hannah and the Triplets because I will simply never stop talking about the kuro demons
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Claudetails is so toxic (to me)
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Me: Lee-dee-dee *happily analysing episode one of season two* Lee-dee-dee, dee-dee...
Alois: *tipping his juice* Hannah, clean this up for me.
Me: *audibly* Oh, for fuckā€™s sake, howā€™m I meant to analyse this?
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Itā€™s actually dadbastian ignore the url
I just realised Iā€™m an idiot who forgot how ask games work, so I was respond properly now
Iā€™m guessing ā€˜bloodā€™, for the wip ask game
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Ask me stuff
Oohā€¦ hmmā€¦ thatā€™s a good one!
In the dark, still ballroom under the ticking of the clock, royal blue eyes stared unseeing; purple hair sprawled, and dark face ajar. There, the demon known as Hannah Annafellows lay dead, in a pool of her own blood as per the hands of the demon known as Claude Faustus.
(Tagging @indigoipsum and @nullb1rdbones for the Alois, and thanking @pain-in-the-butler for letting me keep the name ā€œClaudetailsā€!)
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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@dadbastiandisaster Fangirling over these tags, thank you.
Alois Trancy / Jim Macken
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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wip game attempt number 2: red
Ask me stuff
Iā€™d said this wasnā€™t in TSoGtR, but Iā€™d forgotten to check Claudetails! Silly me. You get two answers for three attempts.
Demon and demon fought: slashes of red; purple on black; royal blue searing into molten gold.
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eemoo1o-animoo Ā· 2 years ago
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Oh-ho, Claudetails is going to be a wreck. Not even Iā€™m ready for this one.
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