#claude/silver

[domestic-pest]

Claude and Silver [Villain AU]

[*art by me, do not repost*]

[themisteriousentity]

"Golden Deer is boring though it's lackluster, the characters aren't as strong as the other paths there's less conflict-"

You fool. You absolute buffon. Golden Deer is perfectly designed. Not only does it feed into the whole "alliance" theme well by having the characters still work together despite their differences and feelings well before hitting those A supports, but it's ALSO the only route that actually puts the focus on YOU the player. Or, rather, Byleth themself

Black Eagle is about whether or not you can agree to Edelgard's ideals of acceptable sacrifice and perspective that there's only 1 way to do things. The branching happens when you decide whether or not you agree, but ultimately it just explores opposing or agreeing with Edelgard. Anything more than that is really just incidental to that main concept, whether it's Crimson Flower or Silver Snow, the entire time you're focused either on helping Edelgard achieve her goals or you're focused on showing her how wrong she is alongside the Black Eagles who think it's their duty to correct Edelgard's wrongs (and I have a whole separate thing in regards to how the cast acts in Crimson Flower verses Silver Snow). It works really well for characters designed around an empire, a domineering form of government where (usually) a singular ruler determines the course and focus

Blue Lions is focused entirely on working on past issues and learning to bring yourself into the present, but it's done almost entirely through the cast more than the player. The Blue Lions themselves all have their own traumas and deep-seated past issues that hinder or help progress. While both Blue Lions and Black Eagles have a lot in common when it comes to traumatized characters and ideology, the ideology is front and center, while in Boue Lions, their interpersonal conflicts are front and center. This shows especially in the final (non romance) scene, where Dimitri decides that his personal attachment to Edelgard and past memories still matter, and he reaches out a hand, despite her immediately trying to kill him. It's fitting for a route designed around a kingdom, which is usually built entirely on interpersonal dealings between the ruling class

Golden Deer, however, is designed very differently. Unlike the other 3 routes, the player, or more specifically Byleth, is put as the driving force instead of the Lord. And this is actually what makes Golden Deer such a good route and one with the best ending of all of them. Claude has ideals, but he isn't a person who wants to force others to follow his path like Edelgard. Claude has lived a life of strife where his past motivates him, but it doesn't chain him the same way it does Dimitri. Instead, he works on understanding everyone around him and working together towards agreed upon goals, while taking on stuff that isn't agreed upon onto himself. But more than that, while all the Lord's value your opinion, Claude is the only one who actually takes what Byleth wants (rather than just what they think about specific matters) into consideration for his plans. Repeatedly you tell Seteth in Silver Snow that you don't want to kill Edelgard, but he pushes that you have no choice. Pretty much the entire first half of Azure Moon is Dimitri ignoring you. And in Crimson Flower, you've all but completely submitted to Edelgard's will with a couple of exceptions (which actually proves my point because it's specifically in regards to the Golden Deer because you can fight the entirety of Crimson Flower while sparing all of them except for Judith). But in Verdant Wind, Claude doesn't hide that he has a problem with the church and wants Rhea gone. In Golden Wildfire, without Byleth, he's more than happy to just get rid of her without a second thought. But when Byleth is the protagonist, he goes out of his way to accommodate your wants into his plans and goals. When you express as the player that you want to reason with Edelgard and ponder if you can't walk the same path, Claude agrees with you and says he'll make it happen if he can, with the other Golden Deer mostly agreeing. When that,can't happen you both lament the fact that Edelgard gave you no choice together. He makes finding Rhea a priority, mostly because as curious as he is in general, he wants to help you find out answers only Rhea can give you. And all of the Golden Deer do this to some extent, with each other but also with you as the player. I think Hilda and Marianne's A supports with Byleth show this best personally, but that's a personal opinion. And it just works so well for a route designed around the idea of an alliance, people coming together and agreeing to work towards a goal bigger than themselves

And that's not to say the other routes aren't as good as Golden Deer, they're all equally well written, but it just makes me sad when I see people giving the Golden Deer route grief just because the characters aren't the same when it does its theme so beautifully

[rosie-tyler]

Terry Silver & Daniel LaRusso | Claude Frollo & Esmeralda

[squeaky-potat]

Silver Snow Route featuring Claude von “F*ck you” and his big fluffy kitty boyfriend.

They escaped Fódlan then lived happily ever after :3

[curse-d-owl]

Edelgard waged war cause she believes Rhea and the others are villains that are against progress. Her goal is to kill them and conquer Fodlan so she can change it for the better.

Problem is her accusations are false, her war is unjustified and has done nothing to help the people she's trying to save proven by Byleth's paired ending with Rhea, Hanneman's and Linhardt's paired ending with Lysithea, Petra's, Claude's, Dimitri's Seteth's, Lorenz's, Sylvain's, Hanneman's, Lysithea's endings.

The other nations don't fight back to keep the status quo as it is, they fight back to protect their people and end her war. There is no shades of gray regarding her war. At best she is a misguided villain like Walhart.

Plus she's every bit the villain she accuses Rhea of being.

She lies and manipulates the truth herself in white clouds and cf.

She helped spread the lie that Duscur is responsible for the tragedy, didn't say anything to defend them by condeming the injustices they faced while in contrast demonized the goddess infront of a pious high ranking knight in defense of Miklan and in the original JP script callously trivialized the tragedy by claiming she doesn't care about it.

She drags Brigid into her war, refuses to free them from the Empire's imperialism and attempts to kill Petra for standing against her. Edelgard's and Hubert's "respect" for Brigid is conditional.

Uses her citizens as meatshields and launches demonic beasts in the capital

Responds to dissent with murder attempts

And refuses to cooperate and end the war she started diplomatically.

Only reason there is still discourse about this game cause her fans can't accept that fact she is the villain and provoke her critics with childish insults and waste their time with disingenuous and bad faith arguments.

You can't claim Edelgard's accusation that Rhea and the other leaders are violently against change is true the same way you can't claim Dimitri's accusation that Edelgard is responsible for the tragedy is true.

You can't deny that Edelgard bled fodlan dry the same way you can't deny Rhea didn't sacrifice defensless citizens in the last chapter of cf.

[dadsinsuits]

Jean-Claude Brialy

[ginnungagay]

[slotumn]

I know I talk about it a lot but the off-screen Silver Snow Gronder is definitely one of those things where later generations are like "why did any of them do this" "idk love of the game I guess"

If Claude survived that then he definitely doesn't bring it up ever again because imagine putting everything into the Epic Tragic Three Way Showdown of Epic Tragic Destiny and the result is Fourth Faction Wins By Not Participating. Silver Snow is the only route where Claude doesn't even show his face on-screen before he disappears but to be fair I would also do the same, like my political career on the continent is already finished please do not make me describe my own L out loud like that

[pinkblanc]

Marcel Moore photographed by Claude Cahun c. 1928

[dudadrawings17]

Maleficent: I just hope these little goblins inside of me decide to be born very soon! I can't take this pregnancy any longer! Ursula: enjoy while you can, darling! After your babies are born, THEN you'll wish you'd still be pregnant! Cruella: at least you have Chernabog doing everything for you. Ursula: who would guess the Disney version of Satan would be such a soft papa, right? Maleficent: why, just because we have horns, like black and green colors, and we're both related to evil and Hell, we can't be good parents?? Wow, rude!

— x — x — x — x — x —

Frollo: you know... You remind me of someone... Gothel: oh yeah? Who? Frollo: your raven hair, your emerald eyes... Are you single, my dear? Gothel: I'm a single mother. Is that a problem to you. Frollo: not at all. I'm a single father too.

— x — x — x — x — x —

Cruella: say it again, darling! Clayton: I ~kill~ animals. Cruella: oooohh yeah, babe! What else? Clayton: I ~sell~ them for riches. Cruella: oooh you evil man! Clayton: now tell me, my darling. What animal you desire the most? A coat made of leopard fur? Shoes made of crocodile skin? An elephant head to decorate your living room? Say it, and I shall have whatever pleases you! Cruella: I want... A ~dalmatian~ coat! Clayton: ... Say what?

— x — x — x — x — x —

Silver: are you sure about this, James? Hook: about what, John? Silver: I don't know... It's the very first time we're leaving Pietra alone with mr. Smee... Hook: oh, don't worry, my dear. Smee knows he better take good care of our daughter if he doesn't want his ass to be kicked.

— x — x — x — x — x —

Jafar: (on the cellphone) Hades, where are you? Hades: I left earlier, Jaffar. I'm tired. Jafar: what?? Where are you going?? Hades: home. Jafar: are you kidding me?? Get your ass back here! You drunk too much! Hades: relax, will you? I took a cab! Jafar: WE WERE DRINKING IN YOUR HOME, YOU ANIMAL! Hades: ... Then where am I going??

[theactioneer]

Timecop (Peter Hyams, 1994)

[who-canceled-roger-rabbit]

Jabba the Hutt, Claude Frollo, the Child Catcher, and the Lady of the Green Kirtle are all in that category of villains who creeped you out as kids and creep you out in a whole other way when you revisit it as an adult

[karatekels]

I just remembered the conversation I had with @pinkspidxr last year about KK3-era TIG being perfect for Gaston:

I mean COME ON.

As well as TIG currently being perfect for playing Claude Frollo in a live action adaptation of Hunchback of Notre Dame that will definitely never happen:

... just imagine his villainy AND voice being put to good use I can't handle it!

[crossbackpoke-check]

Dysprosium, Mary Soon Lee

dysprosium, AN 66, is a silvery-white rare earth metal. its name is derived from the greek dysprositos, meaning “hard to get at”, owing to the difficulty in separating and isolating this rare earth element. dysprosium is used to measure neutron flux, to fuel reactors, and to activate phosphors. terfenol-d is a magnetorestrictive alloy, meaning that it changes shape when a magnetic field is applied, and is used to manufacture underwater acoustic systems.

jason “robo” robertson, dallas stars #21 for @simmyfrobby’s nhl periodic table poems <3

[curse-d-owl]

I got no fancy intro, here are Claude's accusations of Rhea being violently against change being debunked by both Hopes and Houses. This exchange acts as if neither Dimitri nor the central church hasn't already reformed Fodlan for the past 2 years and long before Edelgard's war.

Another thing to point out is that Claude operates under the logic that someone who's committed crimes cannot ever change their ways and must be dealt with through force and yet he gives Edelgard a free pass despite violently invading Leicester. All that aside let's begin.

Claude: I'm just gonna come out and say it: After the war, I'm going to abolish the Central Church and depose the archbishop. The people of Fódlan have been shackled by this decrepit system for too long, and I'm ending it.

Dimitri: You're going to do away with the church?

Claude: That's right. Think about it. Who steals your freedom and gives you an endless list of duties and obligations simply because you have a Crest? Who forces you and your friends into a bunch of unwanted marriages and positions of power?

Claude: The church even forbids any official contact with outside regions! Not exactly great for Faerghus, right? Being as close to Sreng and Albinea as you are.

Claude: They use social status to justify prejudice, and have no tolerance for those who come from anywhere else. Or who don't believe in their teachings.

Again Rhea has so much power over Faerghus that she might as well be the monarch herself instead of Dimitri. If she was against change then she would've hindered Dimitri's efforts to go against her very religious laws.

But she isn't and even if she was she only has control over Faerghus and not Leicester nor Adrestia for them to act like she keeps the entirety of Fodlan stagnant.

[dadsinsuits]

Jean-Claude Trichet