#classic jarley is the BEST jarley

[godlygivenanxiety]

bitches hate jarley because they're incapable of rewriting a problematic heterosexual relationship, the fools! i, however, am gifted with the power of an enormous brain and top/alpha!harley ideas

[rainsongdean]

in honor of red (taylor's version) and my eternal curse to be damned with a glee obsession, here is my way too long reasoning behind which glee club members would sing each of the red (tv) vault tracks

better man - i mean. this is just so fitting for a dramatic s1 rachel ballad. it definitely fits best with the dynamic of her relationship with jesse, with her acknowledging that he was obviously treating her bad by making an omelette on her head but still wanting him and missing the good old days back when they first met like... three weeks ago. not to mention, the lyrics literally sound like things rachel would say. i can already see the classic opening sequence of her walking through the crowded hallway in slow motion singing "i know i'm probably better off on my own than lovin’ a man who didn't know what he had when he had it" and then cutting to her actually standing in the mirror at 4 am singing the next verse to herself before building up to her belting the big chorus while standing under the spotlight in the auditorium. anyway, clearly big sad girl early rachel vibes on this one.

nothing new - so disclaimer, in all honestly any glee girl could probably sing this, i could especially see tina, mercedes or santana singing it, either alone or as a duo/trio etc. but. i'm going to let my quinn fabray bias shine through here and argue that this is totally HER song. like, girlie has been through SO much and this song just lays it all out there. to start, the line "how can a person know everything at 18 but nothing at 22" perfectly captures how in quinn's early cheerio days pre-glee club she thought she was on top of the world and had everything going for her, but, just a few years later, she's questioning her identity and stuck in an endless cycle of doubting herself. "lord what will become of me once i've lost my novelty" is absolutely a thought that has passed through her mind so many times and explains her need to be perfect, be popular, be prom queen and so on. "my cheeks are growing tired from turning red and faking smiles" is also such a quinn line and speaks to how she's so hyperfocused on her outward appearance and how people perceive her and constantly wanting to please and impress them. but the REAL kicker is the entire bridge like "i know someday i'm gonna meet her...she'll know the way and then she'll say she got the map from me" is 1000% about her seeing beth down the line when she's quinn's age and no i will not be accepting arguments on this one thank you very much.

babe - look, i love jarley as much as the next person, but this is hands down a s5 marley song after she's taken some time and processed their breakup and moved on a bit. the lyrics directly match the whole storyline of him cheating and breaking promises, plus i feel like this would just be such a good fit for her voice. i also feel like this could showcase some personal growth in the weeks post-breakup, especially with the line "we're a wreck, you're the wrecking ball" being a direct callback to her initially singing wrecking ball but coming to realize that it wasn't her fault the relationship ended and that she's not to blame.

message in a bottle - this is such a smitten s2 kurt song, i can picture him singing this shortly after he transfers back to mckinley when his and blaine's relationship is still very new but boy is already head over heels. it has so much yearning and hopefulness, but he's still a little scared because he's never done this before and he doesn't want to blow it because he knows what they have is special. it centers on his difficulty with voicing his thoughts and feelings out loud to blaine because he had to hold everything in for so long when he wasn't sure if blaine liked him back, and now that they're actually dating kurt still isn't sure how to communicate everything to blaine. also the issue of them being at different schools is addressed when he sings "how is it in london dalton, where were you while i'm wondering if i'll ever see you again". plus idk if it's just me but i can literally hear chris colfer's voice singing this perfectly. king.

i bet you think about me - no matter how you feel about him there is truly no denying that this is a puck song, in reference to his relationship with quinn in particular. i don't think he would sing it to her in a malicious way but more to prove to her that they still belong together and that he can see through the front she puts up and knows her at her core and also to piss her off a little bit. he would totally call out how she "grew up in a silver-spoon gated community" in "upper-crust circles", plus "they sit around talkin' about the meaning of life" is a direct callout to her college psychology course lmao. but the line that really sold me was "chasing make-believe status, last time you felt free was when none of that mattered 'cause you were with me" like... idk about you guys but i feel like puck was always good at saying exactly what quinn needed to hear and i think that line would him home with her, especially s5/s6 quinn. an added bonus is that we already know puck is a swiftie and this would have to be a better homage to his favorite country girl taylor than his and bieste's rendition of "mean" was.

forever winter - at first i wasn't sure who to give this song to but then it dawned on me that it gives off SUCH blaine vibes, especially the whole message of wanting to be kurt's "summer sun" when he's in a dark mindset and trying to persuade him to believe in their love when he feels like he doesn't believe in anything. we know about blaine's sometimes unhealthy need to take care of kurt and i feel like this song showcases how blaine will always try to cheer kurt up and be the sole provider of light whenever he's going through tough times. on another note, "i pull at every thread trying to solve the puzzles in his head, live my life scared to death he'll decide to leave instead" screams pre s4 breakup when blaine is spiraling and feeling ignored by kurt's new life in new york and ultimately feels so rejected that he... you know... but we don't need to go there rn. anyway, "i'd say i love you even at your darkest" just seems like a very blaine sentiment and he would absolutely sing this to kurt :,)

run - one word. brittana. BRITTANA. s2 or early s3 santana would ABSOLUTELY sing this to brittany and the lyrics match them so well that i'm not entirely convinced taylor didn't write this about them. the entire storyline of the song being about how they "shouldn't be in this town" surrounded by "so-called friends" who "don't know" about their love, and wanting to just run away to lesbos because they don't need anything but each other. plus all the sweet gestures sprinkled throughout the lyrics like "there's a chain 'round your throat, piece of paper where i wrote i'll wait for you" just screams brittana's whole friends to lovers dynamic and makes me think of their lil pinky hand hold. in conclusion santana would use this song to explain her love to brittany even better than landslide and songbird did and just. soft brittana vibes everywhere.

the very first night - i was waiting for a samcedes anthem and BOY did tay deliver on this last track. sam would absolutely sing this to mercedes after moving in with her in new york in s5 to try and convince her they should get back together. "they don't know about the night at the hotel" referring to the very first time they started dating when they stayed in the hotel in new york after s2 nationals. "don't forget about the night out in LA" could be in reference to their paths crossing again at s5 nationals. just the whole vibe of a friendship that accidentally blossomed into a relationship that they tried to keep on the down-low but was too big for them to handle at the time. not to mention the entire "we broke the status quo then we broke each other's hearts" line. like. are you KIDDING. ms swift said samcedes rights when she wrote this song. plus the whole sound of it just feels like a sam song, i can definitely see him playing his guitar while dancing around her and pulling funny faces and making dramatic gestures while she smiles at this insane boy that she loves.

anddd that's what you missed on glee (taylor's version) (from the vault)

[satellitesunset]

Hey, Myle! Apropos of nothing, how do you rate the Glee Seasons?

thank you for asking <3

Season 4

I used to rank S2 first, but as I rewatch S4, I realised it's superior. I think it includes the best versions of so many characters, and the break-ups of so many ships I dislike, and the best music. Kurt is thriving in NY and vogue, and I love him, also Adam, I love kurtcheltana, I love jarley, unique, even ryder is growing on me, I love S4 warblers, unhinged, the group numbers are fantastic, it's so good, it's wacky, and have a lot of heart.

Season 2

my beloved, it used be my favourite for a long time, and I have so much fondness for it, It's a Kurt season so of course I do. I love Rachel in season, I love the background hummelberry moments, Sam is at his prime, the music is so good, the warblers are dysfunctional, also the Fleetwood Mac covers are top tier. it's bonkers in the best way, also the one episode Jesse is in it, Tina and Mercedes are great, there's a couple plotlines that are ummm but overall excellent.

Season 1

It's a solid season, too much will focused for my liking, but the plot is balanced, all the characters have their time to shine, cheerio Kurt(Cedes), Jesse is so charming, and you can't help but like the characters despite all do their flaws, they're endearing. it's bonkers, it's wacky but the classic for a reason.

The Second Half of Season 3 / Season 5

I love the second half of season 3, the music is immaculate, the warblers my beloved, you have good friendship moments, the prom, I cry, I laugh, I'm sentimental and I enjoy it. it's very flawed and I hate how Kurt was treated in this season, bit I'll rant about that later.

It's a love/hate relationship with this season, it has my favourite moments yet I loath it with a passion. It has good parts, and couple of my favourite episodes, Elliott, Sam and Mercedes have so many good moments, Artie is so funny, it's chaotic but it's delightful. on the other hand, it's Rachel's, Santana's, Blaine's worst seaso, there's the jarley break up. (actually S3 exist so many not), and the writers stopped putting effort.

Season 6

it's Rachel's best moment, I love her as a mentor, but it doesn't stand out, it tries so hard to capture elements but falls short, I don't like what happened to Kurt, he feels like a prop, most characters do, and I skip half of it.

The first half of S3

This parts lives in hell, I hate it with a buring passion, I have feud with it, I have watch it once and I don't want to watch it anymore, there's no redeeming factors, I can't find anything good to say about it, the characters are at their worst, the plot lines are bad, nothing good about it. (expect the music I guess)

[spaceorphan18]

Glee - The Exit Quiz

Okay, I’m gonna rapid fire answer these, cause why not.  I really recommend you guys do the same! (also - thanks @honeysucklepink - for sending in an ask <3) 

1. favorite character?

Kurt Hummel - love him so hard (but obviously, y’all know I love Blaine and many others, too) 

2. favorite teacher?

Probably Beiste or Emma

3. favorite couple?         

Klaine - be shocked.        

4. least favorite character?

Believe it or not, Ken Tanaka - I just cannot so hard

5. least favorite teacher?

Oh Will - he’s a disgrace to the profession. 

6. least favorite couple?    

I don’t know? Long term - Probably anything related to the Jarley/Ryder triangle - because it bored me to tears.   Short term - Puck/Shelby - don’t get me started. 

7. favorite duet?        

Off the top of my head - Happy Days/Get Happy, it hits the warm place of my heart        

 8. favorite bromance?

Sam and Blaine, kinda by default.  I wasn’t huge about the male friendships on the show. 

 9. favorite episode?

Oh c’mon, y’all know it’s New New York

10. favorite season?           

This is actually hard - I think season 2 has my favorite bits, but season 5 is my favorite overall?      

11. least favorite season?              

Season 3 - continued to be shocked  

12. favorite favorite episode?               

Um, did we not just go over this? 

13. favorite cast member?                

Oh Chris, you know it’s Chris

14. funniest character?                

Jane Lynch *lol

15. which character's clothes would you like? 

EEsh, hard pass on most of them. 

16. favorite competition episode?      

Original Song - almost by default, I really can’t stand most of the competition episodes.           

17. what episode can you watch over and over again?                

Most of them, and I have ;)  I like Love, Love, Love might be the most rewatchable though. 

18. what character do you find the best looking?      

I had to think... is it Kurt? Yeah, no, it’s definitely Kurt...           

19. why did you start watching glee?               

Okay, so I’ll tell this whole story... 

So, ten years ago, I got a new job, and moved to a new city, and met a (seemingly) nice guy - with whom I went out with a few times and (unfortunately) it didn’t work out because I got dumped cause he wasn’t that great and still seeing his ex.  Fun, right? Anyway - a friend of mine was like - I’m sorry you’re sad - watch this show! You like musicals and are okay with gay, you’ll like it! 

So - she gave me the season 1 (part 1) dvd and I was like - yeah, that’s fun, but nothing about it grabbed me.  Except DSB - that gave me chills.  But then she insisted we watch it together every time it was on, and so we did... through, eh, half way through season 2? 

And I was, like, nope, this show is just the worst - it’s mean spirited and mean and I am not really enjoying it.  So I stopped.  For about a year. 

So a year-ish later, I got let go from a second job (that was fine - it was super shady and people got arrested, don’t do random online jobs guys) and had some free time, so decided to catch up on Glee and **gasp** watched The First Time and absolutely fell in love with Klaine.  And then I rewatched the whole series and really appreciated it more the second time around.  

And years later, I’m now sitting here with you people.  Lol <3

20. how long have you watched glee?

March 2010                

21. what scene or episode made you fall in love with the show?   

The Auditorium scene from The First Time.  It took my breath away, which hadn’t happened since I started watching The Office.              

22. if you could wake up and be one of the characters for a day, who would you like to be?              

Elliott Gilbert - he seems to have his life together.   

23. what character would you most like to meet?           

Cooper Anderson - I mean who wouldn’t?      

24. favorite newbie character?             

Unique in the original newbies, Jane of the second group   

25. who would you be most want to be friends with?           

Elliott Gilbert - he’d get my life together     

 26. if you could have a one night stand with any character, who would you choose?           

Cooper.  I mean there are some things in life you’d just have to go for.  I’d imagine Santana would give you a pretty good time for a one night thing, too, though.      

 27. favorite fan fiction?                

Probably, Misqueue’s Scenes from a Breakup.  She really taught me the power of good fanfic. 

28. favorite headcanon?                

Hmm, this is so morbid, but the strongest one that comes to mind is that they both live to old age, but Blaine is the one who dies first, and Kurt’s kind of unbarable to be around afterwards, and I once wrote a tiny thing about this - how Kurt would get into fits and be nearly intolerable, but the seasoned nurses ask him to talk about Blaine, and it calms him down.  

29. favorite person that has guest starred on glee?

Hmmm, based on their characters - Matt Bomer, Adam Lambert, or Sarah Jessica Parker. Oh and Katey Segal.  I’m so sad that they didn’t bring her back. 

30. favorite minor character?                

I have a deep appreciate for Stoner Brett.  Also Lord Tubbington

31. what character annoys you the most?    

Ken Tanaka, uapoweifjodsifjeaw;oifh yuk. Also up there is Sandy Ryerson and JBI.             

32. what surprised you the most? 

I’m not sure what you mean??  Mostly that I’ve grown used to the idea of Blaine and Karofsky enough that I don’t hate it and I get why it was a thing.                 

33. which character resembles you the most?                

Thought processing wise - Kurt.  Though emotionally, maybe a bit of Blaine and Mercedes.  

34. which character are you most connected to?

Kurt                

35. 5 favorite quotes?

oh - god, i’m bad at remembering things off the top of my head -- 

My favorite one is: “let me autocorrect that for you.  Lima doesn’t have a zoo, why’d we think it did?” the delivery on that is the best.  

also the one where Jane Lynch goes on about giving Will a cat and punching him in the face.  

And the Kurt line about answering the phone saying ‘she’s dead’.                 

36. an unpopular opinion you have about this show?             

Oh, I have so many... mostly, season 2 isn’t as good as people claim it is, and season 6 is much better than people claim it is.    

 37. plot point you would've wanted to change, and how would you change it?   

The biggest one for me is adding in a catalyst to Kurt’s story to head back to Blaine.  Not so much change, but add to the already existing story.  

I’d also get rid of the whole Shelby/Puck thing all together.  Did not need to be a thing.   

(Where are questions 38-39??)

40. what will you miss the most?               

The week to week-ness of having discussions with people.   

41. top 10 favorite songs each season? 

Wow - this is a big question, time to get the iphone out... 

Season 1: 

Don’t Stop Believin’ (Pilot version) 

Defying Gravity (Kurt version) 

My Life Would Suck Without You

Run Joey Run (for comedic reasons)

Rose’s Turn

I Dreamed a Dream

Bad Romance

Bohemian Rhapsody

Don’t Stop Believin’ (Journey version) 

Over the Rainbow              

Season 2: 

I Want to Hold Your Hand

Happy Days Are Here Again/Get Happy

Teenage Dream

Forget You (Don’t ask - I love it) 

Baby, It’s Cold Outside

Misery

Blackbird

Raise Your Glass

Loser Like Me

As If We Never Said Goodbye

Season 3: 

Something’s Coming

Last Friday Night

Hit Me With Your Best Shot/One Way or Another

Perfect

We Are Young

I Will Always Love You

Love Shack

How Will I Know

I Have Nothing

Not the Boy Next Door

Season 4: 

Call Me Maybe

It’s Time

Teenage Dream (Acoustic) 

The Scientist

Dark Side

Being Alive

This is the New Year

Just Can’t Get Enough

Come What May

Mamma Mia

Season 5: 

All You Need is Love

Make You Feel My Love

Hold On

Defying Gravity 

Loser Like Me

Don’t Stop Believin’

Rockstar

Pumpin’ Blood

All of Me

Pompeii

Season 6: 

Home

Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow/Head Over Feet

Somebody Loves You

At Last

Listen To Your Heart

Popular

Some Day We’ll Be Together

Daydream Believer

This Time

I Lived

42. favorite new directions group cover?                

I mean, Don’t Stop Believin’ is the ultimate classic - but I have a strong appreciation for Hold On. 

43. favorite warbler cover?                

Oh, god, Teenage Dream probably? But then Raise Your Glass

44. favorite vocal adrenaline cover?                

Bohemian Rhapsody - nothing else really comes close. 

46. favorite celebrity judge?                

The Nun who used to be a stripper.  

47. someone you would've liked to see guest star on the show.                

Julie Andrews as Kurt’s grandmother.  

48. favorite tribute episode?                

The Beatles and Whitney Houston

49. what episode made you cry the most?                

The Break Up - partly cause of the music, and partly because of the circumstances of fandom around that time :P 

50  what episode made you laugh the most?

This show was a comedy?  (I’ll have to think about it and get back to you) 

[dalekofchaos]

Why I ship Joker x Harley/Jarley and why I love Joker and Harley as characters

I like their relationship because I see them as this twisted clownish super villain version of Bonnie And Clyde. Their dynamic, their chemistry and their story is compelling and I just love them together. While the abuse does make me uncomfortable. It’s more than one sided abuse as so many people diminish it as.

A lot of people like to diminish the relationship as one sided abuse and take Harley’s agency and autonomy away by treating her like a defenseless child and a “cinnamon roll that must be protected at all costs” and dismiss Joker as nothing but a fuckboy. Their relationship is more complex than that. Harley became a villain of her own free will and The Joker is one of the greatest villains of all time. They are much more than tumblr dismisses them as.

Harleen Quinzel chose to become Harley Quinn.  Harleen Quinzel was not tortured or thrown in chemicals to become Harley Quinn. Harleen Quinzel fell in love with The Joker in therapy. There is a large portion of manipulation on The Joker’s part, but it was Harleen’s choice to become Harley Quinn. She’s not a victim of The Joker’s madness, she chose to become who she is.

Their relationship isn’t one sided abuse it’s an on and off again relationship. The Joker and Harley are both insane and dysfunctional, there is no way this can be a normal and healthy relationship because that is the complete opposite of these two characters. No one is saying the relationship is healthy nor do I suggest it to be healthy or a relationship to strive towards. It’s meant to be a violent, unstable relationship. It’s also fictional. It’s a fictional relationship between two horrible, demented murdering clowns. To pretend the relationship is a run of the mill one that’s portrayed as healthy is just preposterous. Same with pretending the relationship isn’t also filled with a sick, twisted romance. Romanticizing Joker/Harley isn’t the problem. The problem is encouraging the behaviors, which no one is. And I love them together, they are like the psychotic clownish super villain Bonnie And Clyde. The Joker DOES love Harley, he is incapable of showing it normally because he has never felt love for anyone and because he’s trash. If he didn’t love Harley he would have killed her ages ago, if all he needed was a way out of Arkham, Harley would have been killed.  He tries to kill her to push her away because he thinks that romance is a distraction and alien. Really, Joker sees Harley as the perfect partner. and this is according to Harley’s creator Paul Dini, The Joker himself Mark Hamil and Harley herself Arleen Sorkin “He loves her as much as he can. He loves her in his way.” -Paul Dini “…That, to me, is kinda their private life. Joker opens up and in those moments he is whatever he is at his core and all his demons come in. And the only one he trusts with that is Harley, or Harley’s the only one who knows how to deal with him in those moments.” -Paul Dini “Expressing emotion in any way that’s real and meaningful is alien to The Joker, but he’s learning those parts of himself, however unconsciously, through Harley.” -Mark Hamil “Everyone else sees The Joker laugh; only Harley has ever seen him cry.” -Arleen Sorkin She’s completely and utterly obsessed and in love with The Joker. She loves Ivy too, but her heart is primarily with Joker. Hell there was a comic where Joker was all nice and sweet to Harley and eventually Harley became bored and tried to get the old Joker back. Harley is in love with the mad clown, Harley wouldn’t have it any other way.

The Joker is one of the great villains of all time. He is the complete opposite of Batman. He is unpredictable and there is no method to why he does what he does. He is a force of nature, while Batman is the unmovable object. He views life as a joke and death as the punchline. He is the only one who can truly push Batman and Gotham to it’s limits. His goal isn’t money, revenge or even world domination. The Joker simply wants to watch the world burn and prove that all it takes is one bad day to turn insane just like him. Batman's primary weapon in his war against crime is intimidation. This is useless to The Joker. The Joker can use Batman’s code of not killing against him. The Joker also forces Batman to make choices to reveal his true character but also outsmarts him. Joker is not out to kill Batman, if he kills him, the fun is over. This is more of a game to Joker. “You won't kill me out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness, and I won't kill you because you're just too much fun. I think you and I are destined to to this forever.” that is what makes their dynamic so good. The Joker knows where to hurt Batman and Batman won’t kill him. Speaking of. I often hear tumblr go off about “Batman should just fucking kill Batman and get it over with” no...no you moron! The reason why is this. The Joker and Batman are each trying to prove a point to society - and really to us, the readers. The Joker wants Batman to kill him because he perfectly embodies chaos and anarchy and wants to prove a point to everyone that people are basically more chaotic than orderly. This is why he is so scary: we are worried he may be right. If the Joker is right, then civilization is a ruse and we are all truly monsters inside. If the Joker can prove that Batman - the most orderly and logical and self-controlled of all of us - is a monster inside, then we are all monsters inside, and that is terrifying. The Joker is terrifying because we fear that we are like him deep down - that he is us. Batman is what we (any average person) could be at our absolute best, and the Joker is what we could be at our absolute worst. The Joker’s claim is that we are all terrible deep down, and it is only the law and our misplaced sense of justice that keeps us in line. Since Batman isn’t confined by the law, he is a perfect test case to try to get him to "break.” The Joker wants Batman to kill a person, any person, but knows that the only person Batman might ever even remotely consider killing would have to be a terrible monster, so is willing to do this himself and sacrifice himself to prove this macabre point. Batman needs to prove that it is not just laws that keep us in line, but basic human decency and our natural instinct NOT to kill. If Batman can prove this, then others will be inspired by his example (the citizens of Gotham, but again, also the readers), just as we are all inspired every day to keep civilization running smoothly and not descend into violence, anarchy, and chaos. This ability to be decent in the face of the horrors and temptations present all around us is humanity’s superpower, the superpower of each of us. The struggle of Batman and the Joker is the internal struggle of each of us. But we are inspired by Batman’s example, not the Joker’s, because Batman always wins the argument, because he has not killed the Joker. and that is why their dynamic works and why not killing The Joker is important. And that is simply why I love The Joker and why I cannot stand it when tumblr dismisses him as a abusive fuckboy or whines about him doing villainous acts and not understanding why Batman won’t kill him.

Harley Quinn isn’t a pushover or defenseless cinnamon roll “that must be protected at all costs”. Harley can defend herself and kick Joker’s ass, she can hold her own against Batman(Harley came the closest to killing Batman) or any of the rouge’s gallery and she can fought Mercy Graves and she won that fight!

Harleen Quinzel is not super smart as the New 52/Assault On Arkham/Injustice likes to say, but Harley is clever in her own way.  Harley’s father was a con artist and abusive. Harley became a psychiatrist to understand her father and to make a book on the rouges of Arkham Asylum, yes she slept her way to get a PHD. But that in away was smart. Harley is smart, but she likes partying more than studying, and gymnastics more than flipping through boring text books. She got into the university on a gymnastics scholarship, after all. So naturally, her grades were lackluster, meaning Ds and Fs. So she decided to boost the grades the old fashioned way, through sex with professors. She still gets to party and train, but she also gets top marks that would get her into Arkham Asylum, where she could train at becoming a pop psychologist. In a way, it was strategic thinking on Harley’s part. Harley is smart, but she isn’t super smart.

Harley works best as a second in command/follower. Why?  Because she became a villain in the first place to follow someone. And she as a villain only follows two people, Joker and Ivy. She has no motivation if she’s not following someone else, and her character is not meant to be heroic or quirky. She’s obsessive, lovesick and is solely devoted to her two loves. She kills for Joker and Ivy, she steals for them, she collaborated with them. If she’s not with one of them, her heart isn’t in it. And having her own solo series had rendered her into just another generic female anti hero. And since she was created to be a sidekick, she really works best in small doses. Trying to overwrite her character weakens the complexities of her.

Harley’s dad was and is a con artist. He’s been in and out of jail, constantly cheating on Harley’s mom, duping rich women for everything they have. Growing up in Bensonhurst around her constantly cheating and lying father, being left in squalor with her bitter mom and slacker brother, Harley vowed she’d be different, make a difference and actually be somebody. But it’s the classic tale of growing up to be what you hate. Harley loved cutting corners like her dad, though I imagine she always justified that to herself by saying she was actually going to make a difference, unlike her con artist father. And then she also became her mother, by falling in with The Joker, who is scarily a lot like her father.

Harleen Quinzel  was already traumatized and unstable from her fiance committing suicide right front of her but went into Arkham right after that anyways because she wanted to study the inmates from Arkham Asylum and wanted to study The Joker so she could be famous for  learning his secrets, which we all know what happened. I would say the madness was already in Harley just buried underneath, The Joker just helped it surface.

Harleen Quinzel did not come to Arkham Asylum to help people. Harleen was power hungry and saw the inmates as a get rich quick scheme for a book and wanted to be the one to understand The Joker’s secrets and what made him what he is. In her own words. “I’ve always had an attraction for extreme personalities, they’re more exciting more challenging. You can’t deny there’s an element of glamour to these super criminals.”

Harley Quinn is not a hero nor is she a anti-hero as DC has been trying to reshape her as. Harley Quinn IS A VILLAIN! Harley is not this role-model, she is a psychopath and a villain. Harley is not as psychotic as The Joker, Harley Quinn can be just as dangerous. Harley isn’t this precious baby, she isn’t a precious teddy bear and she isn’t someone to coddle regardless of how much you love her.  She doesn’t need to be protected from The Joker when she’s a super villain who has murdered her fair share of people and can hold her own against The Joker. She’s also crazy exuberant and peppy. She’s lighthearted evil.

Harley Quinn does not have Stockholm Syndrome. She is a willing accomplice to the Joker and knows exactly what she’s doing. She was never taken hostage or held against her will. She chose this lifestyle from the beginning. She as the Joker’s doctor crossed the line when getting getting romantically involved with him. You may not like the Joker or how he can treat her at times, but the truth is Harley Quinn took advantage of her mentally ill patient who was already declared legally insane before she ever met him. She has always been in the wrong. She begged and pleaded with the Arkham staff just to get to treat him so she could write a tell all book about the Joker. She’s not innocent. She’s a villain, not a victim.

Like it or not The Joker and Harley are made for each other. Harley’s entire character is built around The Joker. The only way Harley would ever be free from Joker’s influence is if she stripped away the clown aesthetic, stopped calling herself Harley Quinn and became Harleen Quinzel again. Harley is supposed to be obsessed with the Joker and no one else, she was created for The Joker.  In my opinion, taking away the obsession a character is literally built around will not improve it.  Everything would have been different if Harley hadn’t been built around the Joker, but she was created for him, therefore taking her away from him not only is out of character, but is also bad for the character itself. Joker, like it or not, was and still is what made Harley a special, complex character. Harley Quinn does not work without The Joker and does not work by trying to make her a hero or an anti-hero. She was created to be a villain and taking that away does not work at all

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Ok I’m awake now so I’ll respond to this!!

(I’m sure you knew that I love s4 with my whole heart)

Jake is such a good choice. My favourite is Unique. (If you want true new cast member then Kitty but that’s not the question). I love Unique’s attitude and her storylines (even during the worse parts of them). Her friendship with Marley was one of the best on the show and I ship Ryunique.

Favourite new relationship is definitely Jarley. They are so cute and now that I have @tthankstoyou to talk about them with I love them so much more. They were did so dirty though.

Favourite episode was Wonder-ful. Naked is such a good choice. I love the storylines in Naked and it’s up there. It took me way too long to start appreciating that episode but I’m glad I did. My favourite mash up is in that episode now (Centerfold/ Hot in Herre appreciation!!!!!!!!!).

Wonder-ful is my favourite episode of Glee. It just has stunning storylines, my favourite Klaine scene and the beginning of Wildabrams (that I do ship). Also the music my beloved, I love it all. <3

Favourite group number is Closer but Footloose is so good!!!!!!!!!

Favourite solo is the absolute classic ‘Let Me Love You (Until You Love Yourself).’ I’m listening to Never Say Never and it’s so beautiful, I’m gonna stop sleeping on it now!!!

Favourite duet is Heroes I think. Marlique duets are beautiful too.

Kurtcheltana are my favourite part of the 2 season NY arc. The breaking up of the 3 of them in s5 is definitely part of the reason I dislike the season. They have such a chaotic but stunning dynamic and while I didn’t like that a bunch of their bonding was around destroying Brody it was still nice. Obviously them living together is not a forever thing but during college where you need roommates why not create chaos with your besties. My favourite moments come from ‘Girls (and Boys) on Film’ or the Unreleased Xmas Special (but that’s technically s5).

that is indeed how you spell my name 💜, and if nobody ELSE is gonna love and appreciate the S4 newbies, then I'm simply gonna have to take up the responsibility myself lmao

I will love and appreciate s4 with you!!!!!

Ok I have some s4 relevant questions for you!

Favourite new new direction?

Favourite new relationship?

Favourite s4 episode? Is your favourite episode in s4?

Favourite group number? Favourite solo? Favourite duet?

How much do you appreciate the s4 Kurtcheltana dynamic? Favourite Kurtcheltana moment?

[godlygivenanxiety]

they're so fucking funny, i love them so much 🥹🥹🥹🥹🥹