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dicentsalve · 3 months ago
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so... based on the chart thing... you like tiziano and cioccolata together? /gen /pos /very much interested in this concept
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Here comes the moment of my confession
This pairing is one of those that I have in a small frame and which I do not promote now, but at one time it made a certain contribution to the study of the characters.
I can't say that I really like them together, it's more of an interesting branch for reflection.
First of all
For those who haven't seen it, I remind you that according to my headcanons, Tiziano and Cioccolata are Sicilians for reasons I explained in that same post.
Tiziano and Cioccolata are both men with a firm, unwavering, dominant character, accustomed and striving to keep the situation under their control.
Tiz as a whole seems the most adequate of this whole unita.
But of the two, Tiziano will clearly be the more sane.
And cuz of this, Cioccolata gets a stronger position, since he is ready to take much more radical measures, while Tiz will retreat.
Their combination is, rather, a struggle for the top in all respects, up to physical violence
However, I can’t imagine their sexual relations at all, even as an act of dominance.
This can hardly be called a relationship at all.
They could have a couple of topics for conversation, but if Tiziano is calm, perhaps reluctant to make contact, Cioccolata will definitely try to find and open some abscess, to touch a raw nerve.
I'll even say more, I tried to write something with them, but it didn't go far.
In response to this, Tiz, even if he ignores it at first, will definitely start trying to bend Cioccolata to his will.
It is quite possible that he could succeed.
Not like Ciocco did it with Secco, it'll most likely be the path of Tiz's silent, strict and analytical character, to which Cioccolata won't obey, but will simply play along cheerfully.
And original:
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dicentsalve · 2 months ago
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AGAIN i know your not a hc blog but your takes are great so ill try to ask 😭 What do you think la unita members think of each other? Do they get along?
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Nothing should hamper your thoughts, in my blog I do whatever I want, and you can ask whatever you want 🫵🫵🫵
And thanks 🧑‍🍼
This is actually a good question and I have noticed that different authors have different approaches to it.
I'll say in advance that there won't be Tiziano×Squalo here, since I've talked about them in detail before here, and in general everything is clear with them.
I will also note that I am more inclined to think that these guys have not seen each other that many times over the entire time. Yes, they are a team, but I think they are simply not interested in any close contact with each other, because they are either separated or have too high an opinion of themselves.
Also, they each have a lot of character and job conventions that can prevent them from establishing contact
So this is more of an assumptions and speculations based on headcanons and canons.
I will also rely on how they were shown in the manga, since in the anime there are still noticeable differences in behavior and emotions. 
● Carne × Tiziano × Squalo
My eye has long been caught by the fact that Carne wears a headband, just like the naval bffs, which seemed like an interesting coincidence to me at the very least.
I like to periodically imagine them sitting at home, sipping a glass of wine while chatting, playing board games, or watching a TV series (with subtitles, of course).
Carne is calm, silent, unhurried and slow, simply the ideal _interlocutor_ for Tiziano.
And even though Squalo is the complete opposite, I am inclined to assume that his environment, given his ardent and wild character, simply needs calm people, such as Tiziano and, accordingly, Carne.
And considering my early headcanons, Tiziano knows sign language, Squalo only some basic elements
I generally think that Carne could find a common language with anyone (at least with Unita)
● Squalo × Secco
If you think about it and draw some parallels, these two have similar traits: they are both wild (not literally), emotional, proud, hot-tempered and have a person to whom they obey (Let's be honest, leaving aside the anime adaptation, even in the manga Squalo acts as a tool, which, roughly speaking, Tiziano controls)
However, all these similarities will become an obstacle
In addition, it is quite possible that Squalo simply will not take Secco seriously due to his position and the conduct
Considering them as a combat duo, their stands can be quite good and even dangerous:
Clash is very limited in his movement by the presence and size of the liquid
And what does Oasis do? Turns solids into liquid (yes, his card says "into mud", but it is unlikely that you can swim in mud THAT way)
● Tiziano × Secco
Tiziano is obviously not the kind of person Secco is used to dealing with
However, I think even in this case they will not find a common language
I think Tiziano will just get tired of him
And in general he gives the impression of being a rather squeamish person, and Secco is clearly not the most clean or civilized
As a fighting duo they are also complete crap
Not only because of the stands, but also as partners they will not work together
● Tiziano × Cioccolata
(Fan fact, there is a fic about CioccoTiz on ao3)
I think they would have found common topics for conversation (but not right away), even more, I can easily imagine them sitting somewhere in a restaurant and discussing topics related to human physiology and psychology (Cioccolata understands this as a psychopathic doctor, and Tiziano because of the work of the stand)
Besides, Tiziano is calm and calculating, Cioccolata, outside of triggers, also maintains a cold professionalism
Moreover, mutual respect may even develop between them
However, Tiziano would be irritated by Cioccolata's quirks and passions, which he would definitely voice in all colors
I would also like to point out the fact that, despite the self-control demonstrated to us, Talking Head is a chaotic and, in fact, chaos-bringing stand
And if the stand is the personification of the owner's soul, then this makes Tiziano a little more similar to Cioccolata (I hope it's clear in what sense)
It is also interesting that they both tend to invade other people's personal space (at least in their own circle)
But I am inclined to think that Tiziano would not let an old crazy surgeon who, instead of drinking coffee in the morning, picks around in people's (or his own) insides get so close to him
As a combat duo...
Talking Head needs a combat, preferably tanking stand
Green Day is essentially the same support
● Squalo × Cioccolata
If we consider their company and additionally Tiziano, then, on the whole, they could have a good time, but Squalo would consider Cioccolata more superfluous in his company with Tiziano
I touched on the fact earlier that Squalo has certain similarities with Secco.
However, these similarities are not enough for them to get along, let alone cooperate.
Squalo also isn't the kind of person who will obey, and especially so openly, another person
He's certainly quite calm and cool, but more likely to let loose when Cioccolata opens his mouth.
But when Squalo is a little more deeply immersed in Cioccolata's background, he will significantly limit his statements (but will tell about it to Tiz)
Clash would simply grab the victim and either drag them down or teleport them to a lower level to fulfill Green Day's condition
As a fighting duo they have potential, which will depend on whether Green Day will influence the Clash
If we take the option that the mold will not touch the Clash, then this makes his contribution similar to Oasis
And now, based on their bloodthirstiness, they could, if not become friends, then find common topics for conversation (But Squalo would quickly merge, yielding to Cioccolata in bloodthirstiness)
● Cioccolata × Secco
Let's go 🏃💥💥💥
I won't even think of ignoring them and will use the chance to discuss their ambiguous dynamics
Secco is a very interesting specimen overall, the changes in behavior of which are only phantom
Secco also has obvious, genuine speech problems, and Cioccolata is clearly more erudite in this area.
The demonstration of his 'true' attitude occurs both in close proximity to strangers and in close proximity to Cioccolata
However, in spite of this, in private he is genuinely happy when he receives a simple message from Cioccolata
For what?
Also, despite the fact that they are both extremely unstable psychologically, Cioccolata is the key to stability and security for Secco (which he himself ultimately says)
In addition, one cannot rule out the possibility of developing Stockholm syndrome.
Besides this, Cioccolata himself also obviously has an attachment, albeit unhealthy, to Secco, who became a new and unexpected experience in his life.
Secco is a proud and self-assured bastard who at the same time willingly caved in to a man whose stand, if you think about it, is pretty easy to confront (especially for Secco, who is not affected by Green Day???)
He is also not an idiot and apparently understands Cioccolata well enough to know what and how to do to gain his approval and other feelings or emotions
In general, the details of their acquaintance would explain a lot (no, there are not enough of them in the anime), but for now this is a dependent relationship, not only beneficial to both of them, but also necessary both in work and psychologically.
We can't at least rule out the fact that Cioccolata did something to him and why the hell he even left him alive (the anime points out their similar views, but how much? How did Secco show it? Besides, that makes them an even better duo)
I'll say one thing for sure: Secco doesn't see anyone as a leader except Cioccolata.
I can't talk, so you'll have to figure out these shitty notes yourself.
I hope I got the main idea across
● Cioccolata × Carne
I know a couple of people who love this duo aaaand I can generally understand why.
If you think about it, even their stands are similar in essence, since they absorb living organisms.
I think they would get along quite well, not only because Carne is a good listener, but also (given the demonstrated attitude by Carne towards his own stand) they might share certain interests.
Moreover, Cioccolata could very well know sign language.
Also, given the work of Notorious B.I.G, which I touched on in more detail earlier, Cioccolata would not have missed the opportunity to take advantage of this
And Carne, I think, would not have minded much.
● Secco x Carne
They will sit in silence
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