#christo d5

[anzuhan]

[momosagi-art]

Spent the whole year finally getting into the Disgaea franchise! Anyways, here's a lil' Christo ^w^

[peacherinechanne]

current shitpost status:

[triargent]

[prinneh]

DECEMBER 25TH. → happy birthday, christo! also, merry christmas to all of you disgaea fans! please stay safe and have a happy holiday! (❁´◡`❁)

[felikatze]

CHRISTO IS VOICED BY XANDER MOBUS?????

[nyarlylicious]

Let’s talk adopting collectors editions that were damaged and otherwise seen as trash. I found this one on ebay for $66, with everything inside still in wrap, and the box having at worst a hole in the back that’s not even ruining the character artwork. A simple, two second fix was enough to make it look fine to me, and I saved around ~$30 getting my hands on one that was more pristine.

When it comes to collecting, I end up valuing the stuff other people would consider worthless—catch me buying damaged boxes since I also save a lot of money. This Switch LE of Disgaea 5 Complete was cheap because the box was ‘damaged’, though far less visible than this one here. I’ve been wanting to get my hands on the PS4 LE of Disgaea 5 for months now, not only so I can compare it to the switch’s Complete version, but just because I love to display the box artwork and the PS4′s release had tastier Christo art. (I’m biased, he is my angel demon husband)

I was lucky to snag this one, given everything inside it is unopened still. I do have to ultimately make the decision to crack these, though, if I want to play D5 on my ps4 (See: I do.)

Here’s an interesting thing to note: The artbook differences! Christo’s got a few more stuff on his page in the PS4 artbook, and also the Toy’sworks page is included. Good. I want a scan of that chibi C-sto.

[iylisss]

Playing d5 on switch put me back in Christo love mode

[asuccessfulbusinessman]

I’ve started liking the Disgaea series and seeing the trailer for 6 made me go “man, I wish I had this arrogant fucker in D5 instead of Red Mangus.”

Red Magnus is currently my highest level unit, because he’s strong and hits things. But my new criteria for how much I like a character is if their dub work is more annoying than that of a Prinny. 

Like, no spoilers because I want to suffer like I did with Lucchini, but Red Magnus looks to be a lot like Ibaraki Douji from Fate. Either he’s actually not as strong as he lets on - and is putting on a facade (which is being hinted at subtly, and Disgaea is about as blunt as a brick with Killia, Christo, Seraphina, and Usalia)... or he’s just a joke character. Again, just like Ibaraki Douji from Fate.

If he’s putting up airs, the very stilted and elongated repetition of Red Magnus saying “RED MAGNUS,” is excellent for his character. If he’s just a joke character, then it’s just annoying with no benefit.

[anzuhan]

[momosagi-art]

Christo being Christo o(^v^o)

[andromeda1023]

The Colorado segment of the Rocky Mountains is on full display in this photograph taken by an astronaut onboard the International Space Station (ISS). Cloud cover stalled on the eastern slope of the mountains, allowing for this image of the entire Front Range, as well as several other ranges—San Juan and Sangre de Christo—that together comprise the Rocky Mountains in Colorado. The Colorado Plateau is readily recognizable due to its flat profile relative to the adjacent mountain ranges.

The snow-capped peaks along the Front Range mark the boundary between the Rockies and the Great Plains to the east. The Front Range is also a section of the Great Divide. Often referred to as The Continental Divide, it is a hydrologic boundary that delineates the direction of water flow between east and west, toward the Atlantic or Pacific oceans.

Nearly fifty years ago, Apollo astronauts visited the San Juan range for geology training. The rocks and terrain of the San Juan Mountains made the area well suited for teaching astronauts to recognize different types of rocks for sampling, and to record their observations for further analysis by scientists back on Earth.

Astronaut photograph ISS061-E-32065 was acquired on November 6, 2019, with a Nikon D5 digital camera using a 50 millimeter lens and is provided by the ISS Crew Earth Observations Facility and the Earth Science and Remote Sensing Unit, Johnson Space Center. The image was taken by a member of the Expedition 61 crew. The image has been cropped and enhanced to improve contrast, and lens artifacts have been removed. The International Space Station Program supports the laboratory as part of the ISS National Lab to help astronauts take pictures of Earth that will be of the greatest value to scientists and the public, and to make those images freely available on the Internet. Additional images taken by astronauts and cosmonauts can be viewed at the NASA/JSC Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth. Caption by Alex Stoken, Jacobs Technology, JETS Contract at NASA-JSC.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/146135/the-colorado-rockies?fbclid=IwAR1wXXc8BrL-IMrHTSWsS_1bkGRZ3xOErVakrZVgPMKpgVeNTLAU26LLl40

[skartlie]

A Disgaea trick or treat give exchange event (@disgaeatrickortreat) for @waterscraps. It was hard to choose when you said between Seraphina and Christo since both of them are my favorite D5 characters with Killia. Hope you like it.

[nyxabird]

The problem with Zeroken’s design

I feel like rambling today, so. Let’s talk about Disgaea 5. Or more importantly, let’s talk about one of Disgaea 5′s characters, Zeroken. Now, I love Zeroken. Anyone who’s seen me stream know I love Zeroken. I go to massive efforts to make him a strong little boy and despite his flaws, I think he tends to be an adorable and charming character. But there is one major, meta flaw in Zeroken and that’s in his design.

Now, I want to say, I like Zeroken’s design. I think he’s cute! And I think his appearance fits well with his personality. The problem is that his design is flawed; it commits a sin of media called “informed attribute”.

For those who don’t know, an informed attribute is something about a character that is told to us through outside sources and that isn’t actually in the actual series the character is in. For instance, a lot of anime will say that a female character is a tough fighter, but every time you see her, she doesn’t actually have any strength and she’s constantly in trouble. It, essentially, is just saying “oh yeah this character is actually this” even though there’s no evidence of it. A lot of the time, informed attributes feel like they’re tacked on for the developers to get brownie points, but that’s not related to this subject, so I won’t discuss it.

So let’s get back to Zeroken. What’s his informed attribute, you may ask? It’s his race. So first, here is a picture of the kid.

I want you to look at that and think about it. What race do you think he is? For me, I always thought he was just a humanoid demon like about 50% of the classes in Disgaea 5. Like the Warrior or Gunner or Sage or Lady Samurai or any of those. And that seems right, right?

Nope.

He’s a werewolf.

Did any of you who heard of him actually guess that? Did you have any idea he was a werewolf, or intended to be one? I bet most of you didn’t, because of the people I knew (one who’s played D5 since it came out) had no idea either. So how do we know he’s a werewolf?

Because his intro trailer said so. Something I’d never even heard of, and neither had they, until they went browsing in the wiki one day.

The only “hints” to this in-game are his Overload (Superluminal Wolf) and the fact that some of his moves (in Japanese, at least) have voice clips of him howling. And that’s not even remotely an actual hint, because that could just as easily be his theme. Non-werewolf/-wolf characters have used wolf references or howling, so it’s not even remotely a hint to the fact he’s meant to be a werewolf.

Even his design doesn’t hint towards it at all. There is nothing distinct about his design that hints he’s anything but a humanoid demon. There is nothing in the game that is actual proof/a hint that he’s like that, except some throw-away lines (such as Seraphina calling him a dog) that aren’t evidence on their own, because it’s just as often used against non-wolf-related people too.

I really think this was just a huge error in his design that NISA did, a mistake that was made that no one actually bothered to think about being a mistake when they really know how to do better.

Why do I know they know how to do better? Because they’ve done it before.

This is Fenrich, from Disgaea 4, who is in fact a werewolf. Could you tell? I bet so, because the tail gives it away really fast. Even if you wouldn’t immediately label it as a “wolf”, you still can see, at a glance, that he’s not Yet Another Humanoid Demon. More than that, some of his skills make it even clearer that he’s a werewolf; he has skills that have him running on all fours, for instance. Even if the game didn’t tell you what Fenrich is, you could guess from the evidence in the game.

And Zeroken doesn’t have that. And why? There’s no reason for that. There is no reason that Zeroken doesn’t have anything that really hints towards his nature. It was as simple as giving him a tail, really, because the game had already established that race as looking like that. And you can argue game canons/timelines/AUs as much as you want, but races/classes in general stay the same/use the same depiction; some do change, such as the Armor Knight changing genders, but overall it’s fairly consistent.

I have no idea why they failed on the most basic part of Zeroken’s design. There’s some theories that his hair is meant to resemble a tail, but I honestly think that design in general is a bad design and just a way people get themselves out of having to depict stuff with tails. It’s a cowardly design decision to me, especially because it’ll never be able to tell you what they are at a glance, failing that aspect of their design. (I also think it looks incredibly crappy and stupid, but that’s a personal feeling of mine)

In general, whenever I or my friends write or do anything with Zeroken, we’ll add in his tail, and just hand-wave it as having been cut off during the Lost invasion and regrown somehow after the war. Because quite frankly, NISA (or whoever designed him) failed. They just failed, flat out, on making his design clear that he isn’t just yet another human-looking demon and is actually one of the beast folk. The rest of the design is good, as I’ve said before, and I really like it... but no matter how much I like it, it is a failure in informing us what he is.

Magnus and Usalia are easy to tell what they are from the start. Seraphina is a bit harder, but you could reasonably figure out what she is from the evidence. Christo’s whole arc is about trying to hide what he actually is. Killia’s design is also problematic in this way, but he actually has hints to him being a beast folk (the claw-hands that are clearly not gloves, the scales on his chest), so even if we don’t know what he is, we know he’s something different, not just a humanoid demon, though there’s no hints as to what he is in-game. (Dragonewt, by the way. Killia’s a dragonewt) Killia is more complicated, though, so I won’t get into that unless someone actually wants me to discuss my feelings on that one.

Zeroken has nothing. Every “hint” could just be as easily as applied to a normal humanoid with a wolf theme. And it’s incredibly disappointing

I guess my point is “NISA, you were fucking cowards by not giving him some aspect that made it clear what he was.” And it doesn’t even have to be a tail. When I (and I’m sure other people) talk about this, we’re not just inherently wanting what people usually call the “clean and cute” sort of things (though why they call it that/what’s wrong with ears/tail as a distinction, I don’t know). We just want something to be clear. Ears, tails, claws, even fur in distinct places. Something, anything, that shows you that there’s something else here besides another “human”.

You can’t just say “oh btw this person is this” when it comes to major aspects like their race. You have to show us. You have to give us evidence. “Informed attribute” is okay when it isn’t a part of the series they’re in (such as telling us a horror protagonist is gay) or wouldn’t have come up canonly, but things like their goddamn race? Or like trying to talk about sexualities in a romance game? Just... no.

If you’re going to design something, put effort into the design and actually show us. “Show, don’t tell” is the rule of visual media, and unfortunately for poor Zeroken, NISA failed him hard on that front. I have really strong feelings about this sort of thing, this thing of making beast characters have no actual traits whatsoever so they look totally human, and it really needs to stop.

[overlordmilkuwu]

OK LADIES, GENTLEMEN, NON-BINARIES AND PRINNIES ALIKE. ITS TIME FOR KNIVES-MUN’S DISGAEA TIMELINE, I LIKE TO SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT IN THE EVENT OF ANOTHER GAME RELEASE THIS TIMELINE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE, THIS IS A TIMELINE I MADE FROM WHAT I HAD LEARNED IN THE GAMES AND IS OPEN FOR DEBATE. THANK YOU.

Now I now what ya’ll are thinking, Whats with the alternate timeline?, Why is disgaea 5 on this list twice and how the hell is disgaea infinite is here!? welp as a major researcher of disgaea because I barely have a life I manged to pull enough links between the games in order to place them on the list BUT the only one I’m having issue with is Disgaea 5 but I’ll cover that last. READ MORE because this is gonna be a long one

Alternate timeline: The normal ending to Disgaea 1 (Where Laharl is turned into a prinny) Is almost never mentioned in the main storyline games, The only time you hear about it is in Prinny: can I really be the hero? When you fight Laharl while he is a prinny in a side quest. Therefor I theorize that this ending opened up an alternate timeline that would later connect to the rest of the main game series and is just never mentioned again. again this is just a theory.

Disgaea infinite: Now then I can already hear the groans of anons in my inbox like: “But Muuunn Infinite not canon, Laharl and Mao don’t recognize each other” Or “But Muuunnn Sicily and the other d2 characters aren’t in this” and finally “But Mun you trash talk this game!” Yeah yeah yeah just hear me out please.

Now they’re are a lot and I mean A LOT of reasons to over look infinite as just a crappy spin off game that shouldn’t be taken seriously or be taken as canon but you’d actually be surprised how there is a tie between the games and good reasoning's and theories as to why this can be added to the line.

Link 1: If anyone remembers at the beginning of the female Laharl chapter in Disgaea d2 Flonne states “I guess I will have to wait for the Super effort ninja gorillian dvd box set to come out to watch it” And the special item Mao and Beryl where delivering to her is “The limited addition effort ninja gorillian dvd/blu ray box set”

Link 2: During this time Flonne admits shes going to go back to Celestia from time to time to try to become an angel again. which would explain why she is the arch angel in disgaea 3 and 4. I know this can be overlooked because of her pure pink transformation in disgaea D2 but she was only given those powers temporary. As to why shes still a fallen angel in d2, Well those tests take time and I doubt she could have finished them all before the events of Disgaea 2.

Explanations to some things though:

Why doesn’t Laharl and Mao remember each other?: They only met each other for a day and infinite takes place 8 years before Disgaea 3. I doubt Laharl and Mao have the attention span to even remember what they had for breakfast yesterday.

Wheres Sicily and Xenolilth?: They could have just been out that day.

why are you even giving this game the time of day when you shit on it before Knives mun?: Because after watching a playthrew on youtube I realize that its just a cute light novel game that was made to just patch up the holes as to why Flonne was the arch-angel and what happened before the events of d2 with the whole pudding fiasco (which was just an excuse for Etna to go train to use her magic properly) 

FINALLY DISGAEA 5 pre-squeal or not?

Now I’m going to be honest this ones a tricky one even for me. Now I know there’s the whole thing with Christo’s lines after the final battle but in all honesty I cant find any links that can link it to any of the games that came before it. Plus from all the dlc scenarios it really seems to me at least like it came after disgaea 4.

“BUT KNIVES MUN! CHRISTO IS TOTALLY LAMINGTON FROM HIS YOUNGER DAYS AND AND HE NEVER SAW AN ANGEL AND A DEMON SAVE THE WORLD TOGETHER AND AND AND”

HOLD IT!

Now unlike the other games I’m not quite as well informed when it comes to d5 mostly because of personal reasons I cannot for the life of me get into the story. But lets sit down and think on this. Christo was betrayed and forced to go into the netherworld to take out void dark right?. So maybe he wasn’t around for the events of D1. In fact...as I think of this now... What if D5 has just been going on even before the events of D1?... And finally ended shortly after d4?.

Um I’ll save that theory for another day and another post.

But to end this half, For me at least. It seems like theirs more evidence pointing towards d5 taking place after d4 rather than it being a pre-squeal to the whole franchise. But I know theres going to be people who will fight me tooth and nail over this so I’ll leave it out in the open like this for now.

Anyway thats been my reasoning's behind my timeline. Feel free to PM me or leave a reply below if you have something that could switch up the timeline. Peace out doods.

[iyliss]

Arospec Awareness Week - fandom challenge - day one

A character you headcanon as aromantic and on the asexual spectrum. 

Christo from Disgaea 5

Because I’m sure angels are aroace (okay for Artina, but she fell in love before becoming an angel so it doesn’t count). Also, Christo (both in d5 and in d1) show many kind of love, without any of that being romantic (and d1 clearly show that love isn’t just romance).