#christian bigotry

[heyftinally]

THINGS THAT SHOULDN'T NEED TO BE SAID BUT APPARENTLY DO

This organization CLAIMS to donate christmas boxes to poor children.

What they ACTUALLY do is, as usual, shove christianity down the throats of needy children who are just hoping christmas doesn't suck this year.

ON TOP OF THAT their own website proudly declares them as homophobic, transphobic, and as holding the christofascist idea that christianity is better than every other religion.

CHRISTIANS - THIS IS WHY NOBODY LIKES YOU.

If you want people to stop hating you, stop being a bunch of manipulative, disrespectful, bigoted piles of shit.

You "god" would be fucking embarrassed by this bullshit, and I can't wait to see you all in hell - too bad I'll be the only one on the throne.

[creature-wizard]

To a Christian, Jesus literally does have the special unique ability to bring joy. That's part of the theology, rejoicing in the Lord and being content in all circumstances. It seems more small minded to dismiss religious beliefs just because you don't understand them.

I'm literally an ex-Christian. I think I understand Christianity pretty damn well.

It's a problem when Christians go around acting like everyone needs Jesus or else their lives will be so so empty and that's just so so sad. Because it's just not true. Non-Christians have their own sources of joy and wonder.

You ought to try pulling your head out of your ass and stop playing the victim when your people get called out for their bullshit behavior.

[infinitemonkeytheory]

[…] every single time I wrote a blog post or made a video that was critical or mocking of Christianity, there was a high likelihood that at least one Christian would say something along the lines of “You wouldn’t dare say this about Islam because you’re too scared.” Or “you’re lucky we Christians are so much better and more peaceful than those Muslim terrorists.”

And it’s those comments that I’m thinking about today, after the retailer Target announced that they would be pulling some “pride” merchandise (celebrating LGBTQ+ people) and relocating it to the back of the store following violence and threats of further violence on the part of Christians:

“Since introducing this year’s collection, we’ve experienced threats impacting our team members’ sense of safety and well-being while at work. Given these volatile circumstances, we are making adjustments to our plans, including removing items that have been at the center of the most significant confrontational behavior.”

[…]

I suppose what I want is for Target to spend some small portion of their billions of dollars increasing security, and trespassing, arresting, and/or prosecuting bigots who come to make trouble. And then I want them to spend another tiny percentage of their billions of dollars supporting LGBTQ organizations in their communities (or what’s left of them after Big Box Stores decimated them) to help those marginalized people feel safe, and to educate others on tolerance. And then, just for a little cherry on top, spend another tiny percentage of their billions of dollars supporting politicians who will unseat the guys passing laws banning books and trying to outlaw pronouns.

Will that happen? No, because it’s easier and cheaper to reduce merchandise, move it to the back of the store, and continue to stop workers from unionizing.

[jewish-microwave-laser]

yeah that's normal

there is officially another jew in the world :)

[wildfeather5002]

Indigenous folks, ex-christians & anyone who's knowledgeable on social issues, I have two questions that have bothered me for a long while and I believe y'all might know how to answer them.

The question: I read a webcomic about community A living on an island along with another community B with different culture & beliefs from them. Community A believes that their culture & religion are the correct ones and that members of community B are dooming themselves to eternal damnation (in a religious sense) if they don't adopt the beliefs & practices of community A.

I saw someone talking about the comic in its comment section, saying that one of the characters who's a member of community B is selfish for not adopting the burial practices from community A's religion, because according to that someone, not burying their loved one like community A believes is correct is " potentially dooming their loved one to eternal damnation".

If you're indigenous, has rhetoric / talking points like this been used against your own religious / cultural practices? Could you give any concrete examples?

If you have religious trauma / are ex christian of any kind, have people used talking points like this to guilt trip, to frighten, or to shame you into obeying religious rules? (People belonging to other religions than christianity are welcome to give their perspectives as well!)

[hazel2468]

Literally 99% of the antisemitic bullshit I see on this hellsite stems from people not knowing the first fucking thing about Jews and Judaism and our culture.

Like. Y'all really love to talk about how you hate Christianity and you're all atheists and shit. But you're also 100% unwilling to learn anything about Jews that isn't right from the mouth of Christianity and your entire worldview is still based in Christianity and your hatred of us is rooted in Christian antisemitism and I just...

[apostate-in-an-alcove]

The Christian audacity to assume that every non-Christian, especially non-believers, are secretly miserable and unfulfilled because they're not Christian is definitely in one of the top ten insulting and degrading things Christians believe about other human beings.

[contemplatingoutlander]

As The New Republic reports, “Alito is complaining that people who oppose homosexuality were being unfairly branded as bigots, despite that being a dictionary definition of bigotry.” On Tuesday, agreeing the Court should not take a case, Alito wrote he is “concerned” that a lower court’s reasoning “may spread.” He notes that the lower court “reasoned that a person who still holds traditional religious views on questions of sexual morality is presumptively unfit to serve on a jury in a case involving a party who is a lesbian.” In that case, several jurors who acknowledged they held anti-LGBTQ views were released from serving on the trial. “That holding exemplifies the danger that I anticipated in 'Obergefell v. Hodges' … namely, that Americans who do not hide their adherence to traditional religious beliefs about homosexual conduct will be ‘labeled as bigots and treated as such’ by the government.'” Slate’s Mark Joseph Stern writes, “Alito suggests that a trial court violates the free exercise and equal protection clauses when it allows an attorney who represents a gay client to strike potential jurors because they express overt bigotry against gay people.” [...] Attorney Max Kennerly posits, “If we followed Alito’s reasoning that religious beliefs can never serve as a basis to strike a juror, we’d instantly run into a collision with jurors who believe, on religious grounds, the death penalty is wrong. Any guesses how Alito would rule on that? Yeah, exactly.”

Why the condemnation of homosexual behavior by some (NOT all) religious conservatives might legitimately raise questions of bigotry

It seems to me that Alito is acting as if "traditional religious views" about homosexuality are uniform.

Alito doesn't seem to acknowledge (or perhaps is not fully aware) that there are some interpretations of scripture that do not support the condemnation of homosexual behavior or even of same-sex unions. In fact there are some mainstream Christian denominations that allow for blessings of same-sex couples (including recently the very "traditional" Roman Catholic Church). Furthermore, Reconstructionist, Reform and Conservative Jewish sects also allow the blessing of same-sex unions.

Given all of the above, one might reasonably wonder why some (not all) conservative Christians or Jews seem to prefer to accept anti-LGBTQ+ translations/ interpretations of scripture, when other translations/ interpretations that are more sympathetic to homosexual behavior are available.

Of course the primary group of religious people in the U.S. that condemns homosexual behavior consists of some (not all) right-wing "Christians" from various denominations. But one also might wonder why these same right-wing "Christians" DON'T seem to want to pass laws banning divorce, adultery, usury, lying, etc., but they DO want to pass anti-LGBTQ+ legislation? After all, behaviors like divorce, adultery, usury, and lying are clearly condemned in various parts of the Bible.

One might also ask, why do some of these same right-wing "Christians" who think it is okay to condemn the LGBTQ+ community, not also condemn a prominent politician like Trump, who has been divorced multiple times, committed adultery multiple times, and who lies almost every time he opens his mouth?

It is the picking and choosing of what to condemn, and the hyperfocus on using the law to allow those with certain "religious views" to deny the rights of the LGBTQ+ community (while not choosing to deny the rights of other kinds of so-called "sinners"--NOT that I support that either) that suggests it might be legitimate to question whether some on the religious right use religion as an excuse to hold bigoted beliefs about and/or to discriminate against the LGBTQ+ community.

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[sir-adamus]

dipshits (cj black) have now started lying about the contents of Shane's letter as 'proof' of crwby 'disrespecting Monty's vision', claiming that the letter said Jaune was supposed to die at Beacon, when Shane's letter never said that (it said Pyrrha was always going to die, but that Jaune was supposed to be the reason she did. which was understandably changed to stop Pyrrha's entire character and sacrifice being about vomit boy, despite Shane's whining about it)

they can't even cite their own bullshit evidence correctly now

[imissthembutitwasntadisaster]

Will not lie I do not care for the way the Christian community often talks about how much better it was in the past! Why don't y'all catch scarlet fever without antibiotics and then we talk!!!

[skekheck]

I had to deal with a lot of weird TDC fans since being in this fandom, but having a fundamentalist Christian take a panel from my very obvious MalVa ship comic and try to frame it as a friendship is a new one.

Man I don't really ship MalVa as romantically as I used to but I'm cackling.

[floralcavern]

My goddess could kick your god's ass. Your bigoted religion and gender binary will not survive the revolution. Your grandchildren will be enby pagans, and they will hate what you are.

Gurl, literally, who hurt you?

[fallloverfic]

I've seen some very odd takes about certain language used in the scene where Mizrak rebukes Olrox at the end of Castlevania: Nocturne, which I think might be due to lack of knowledge about the historical context of certain things.

CW: historical racism against First Nation groups

I know reading academic articles isn't for everyone, but I have to wonder if a lot of people in the Castlevania: Nocturne fandom have not watched things like, say, Disney's 1995 animated Pocahontas, which, for all its many, many flaws, features the song, Savages. I'm not going to quote it in full here, you can find the song lyrics elsewhere (though the European colonizers do use the lines "vermin" and "barely even human", among other epithets). It's not a great song for a lot of reasons (among them being it tries to "both sides" things). But to look at the scene in CN where Mizrak, a Christian working in a European Christian church with at least some Europeans, calls Olrox, a First Nation man, an animal without the understanding of how Christian European colonizers (typically as part of or at least backed by some Christian churches) have viewed First Nation peoples and treated them, and certain epithets used for them, and how European Christian dehumanization of "new world" groups and non-Christians generally worked/works?

Well.

[creature-wizard]

Far right guys will be like "I'm joining THIS ultraconservative church because they don't bow to the demands of man! They hate gay and trans people just like a good church should!" My dude, my guy, you are man, and you are demanding for religion to pander to your hatred.

[the-mountain-flower]

Revisited a story that was very important to me as a child, and learned about the author being very vocal about the harm gender roles & stereotypes cause. I thought "oh that's great!" but was afraid. What if she only applied that logic to cis ppl?

I did some searching, and found out that not only does she support trans ppl, but has also spoken multiple times about how important it is to be able to see protagonists outside of the perceived norm. A.K.A., she doesn't see my very existence as wrong.

I let out a deep sigh of relief. I could continue to enjoy this thing that had been so important to me growing up.

But this isn't the first time something like this has happened. Too often I discover a new artist, or even be unsure of one I've enjoyed the work of for a long time up to the present; and I have to desperately search to know if I can enjoy their work. Either I am extremely relieved, or absolutely crushed.

This shouldn't be necessary. I shouldn't be feeling this deep fear that something so important to me, was created by someone who despises my very existence. That I, as a disabled queer femme ex-mormon Pagan witch who was raised like a girl, will be shoved off the emotional cliff of "this person you looked up to hates you for the same reason all bigots do".

I was so terrified that something that meant so much to me as a kid could've shattered me emotionally. Simply because I didn't know if the person who made it hates people like me.

We shouldn't have to live like this.

[wildfeather5002]

Every time a religious conservative says "Preaching about eternal damnation isn't inherently bad, it's only harmful when christians fail to relay the message in a godly way!" I lose a brain cell.

It's like saying eating radioactive waste isn't inherently bad for your health, it's just the way you consume it that's harmful.

You cannot tell someone they're going to suffer in Hell for all eternity if they don't obey a certain religion in a non manipulative way, just like you cannot tell someone they deserve to get their teeth kicked without being a bully.