#chrissyrants

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It’s amazing to me that people (aka camilizers) will use her to tear down 5h every chance they get. And that they will use any 5h moment and make it about her.

5H doesn’t want to give her a hiatus to do HER solo shit or to continue making music while she gets to go venture on her own and make herself bigger than the group (at the height of their career together) while she isn’t even doing the respectful thing by telling them about it, and they’re monsters. So she leaves and they’re still monsters but she’s so “brave” for leaving such a “toxic environment”, you know the one that made her famous and known.

5H works out amongst themselves the ability to work together and individually without any issues and all of a sudden they’re hypocrites because they didn’t want Camila to do that. Even though there were no secrets or blurred lines between them.

But camilizers take and once again make it about Camila, they say that they’re gonna flop without Camila because the gp cares more about her (but let’s not talk about the fact that because of rumors and silence that took place on their part and the fact that she had a solo song which made people curious and most of the 5h fandom left with her when she did because they were pushing for her to be solo and she also has more famous friends than the rest of them and epic backing her more than they ever did 5H...) and they basically were betting on 5H failing, individually as well as together since them all because Camila left. They made it about her as always. Saying that she made 5H, which is true. She made 1/5 of it, not all of it.

So then today when they announced a hiatus (which could be short term or long term, only time will tell) once again they made it about Camila. Saying that it’s their karma and Camila’s good karma that they announced it. Saying that they knew it would happen and it was “only a matter of time”, turning it into a meme and a bash session on 5H because they believe that’s what they’ve done to Camila this last year. They can never let anything be just Fifth Harmony’s. Never. And it’s sad.

It happens with groups. Hiatus. It’s normal. Sometimes they never come back. Sometimes they do come back. But when you’re creatively stifled and let down by a label constantly you want to explore what you can do on your own. Camila got a taste of that earlier than they did and quit. And she got a bigger taste. They’ve all done stuff individually but for the four of them, there was never any bad blood about it, they kept each other in the know (they’ve mentioned it before and of course camilizers took it as shade towards Camila because she kept her stuff from them). This could be good for them though and that’s what people gotta see. It could be good for them together as well as individually. They could come back a year or two from now and be stronger than ever and be able to genuinely create together without being under the thumb of Epic constantly trying to puppeteer them. It could be 5 years. It could be 20 like some of the groups from the 90’s or 10 like some from the 2000’s. You never know. But a lot of factors go into decisions like that. They could feature on songs for each other. Or do a reunion tour or show or album. It’s unknown and it has bother to do with Camila. She made her decision and the hiatus only involves Dinah, Ally, Normani, & Lauren. Just them.

For me, I wish them individually nothing but the best, same as I did with Camila. There is nothing but a clear road with no expectations and tons of potential and creativity in front of them. I’m sure they’ll be fine. But if you’re one of those people who like to make a groups progress and/or success after a member leaves about that member, grow up. Look at the full picture and understand that the success is/never was about the lost member. It’s about the curiosity that people have once something like that happens. On both ends.

Just wish them luck and move on. If you don’t like them don’t comment on it. If you have been nothing but negative towards them (like bitch ass Dan Wooton and his need for attention and to try and tear them down because he favors Camila and she didn’t dodge his questions about them) then shut up and move on. Period. They don’t need your negativity.

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Genuinely wondering if Camila’s fans can enjoy her success without shitting on 5H or their fans as if they weren’t one in the same this time last year.

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It irritates me that it took a difiant team/song doing well for epic to increase promo for it and Camila and boost the shit out of her as an artist but 5H has been making them money for years and they don’t get shit. They were gonna drop them when Camila left but they were fought for and in return of having to keep them they just ignore them and screw their chances of succeeding as a four piece group.

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Also wondering when they’ll realize that it’s more them than the general public that’s boosting her numbers. They keep buying multiple and gifting multiple copies of Havana as well as streaming like crazy to boost it.

I like the song and I’m proud of her and her success but it’s them not the general public that are keeping those numbers afloat.

I really hope that Havana isn’t her pillowtalk. Cause no other Zayn song except IDWLF came close to reaching that peak. And her fans are doing the same as his fans did when he left 1D.

I’m a fan of her (as I’ve always been) but not her methods of reaching this point. And I will have major issues with her fans. They aren’t all bad but majority are. They act like babies if 5H does something that they claim is shady and if harmonizers mention them or Camila but that’s what they do every time Camila reaches a new achievement. They bring them both up and talk down as if Camila wasn’t in 5H. They do a great job of practing that “love only” that they preach. Idiots.

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Honestly though, I miss Big Time Rush. The group and the show.

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However, It’s disgusting how Camila’s fans and other people/fandoms that don’t like 5H or favor Camila to them (if they are fans) just latch on to anything negative that is said about them. 

Currently, it’s Dan Wootton saying that they are divas (for avoiding personal questions and questions about Camila nearly 9 MONTHS LATER), they were shady, and how he understands why Camila (insert his compliments here) left the group. As if she hasn’t said one million times that it was because she wanted to make her own music. Why would he ask Lauren questions about a possession detainment, her sexuality, her personal life, or a specific letter where she decided to make her sexuality public? It doesn’t matter if it was asked politely or not, it’s got nothing to do with their music. If you want to ask her political opinion, fine. But you don’t need to specify one piece of it because you can transition to something very personal then cry about it online when you don't get your answers. Her sexuality isn’t news. Who she does or doesn’t sleep with or go home to at night IS NOT NEWS. Using her political views to transition back to those very personal things is NOT NEWS. And something that happened many months ago that was very insignificant, is not news.

And Camila’s fans flocked to it believing and latching on to every word he said only and specifically because it was painting 5H in a negative light. That’s the only reason that they cared. If it had said that 5H was donating 1 million dollars to charity they wouldn’t have cared about it. But since it was negative, they did. They can’t win with her fans or people that like Camila over them.  They just can’t. If they respond to a question about Camila, they’re shady and using her for press. If they avoid them or ignore them completely, they’re shady and hiding something that the rest of the world supposedly already knew. They’ll never win.

And it’s mostly on twitter. And because of that people associate 5H and pissed off Harmonizers with tons of negativity simply because they don’t want the girls to be bullied and the girls don’t want to answer questions that are irrelevant to the stage that they’re at now. And ironically, it’s former 5H fans (who clearly can not be trusted to be loyal since they just abandoned one for the other) who started talking all kinds of shit about 5H the moment they latched onto something they thought would work to discredit 5H and their success. They maintain that every ounce of success that 5H currently has is because of Camila. But it isn’t. Cause if it was, she would’ve been a solo artist from the moment she stepped on that X-Factor stage. It was a collective effort and for people to say that she was the sole reason for their success is diminishing to not only their talent but Camila’s as well.

You could tweet or post “5H ain’t shit” in one post, then follow it up with “but the nicest people on the planet” under a read more or a different follow up tweet, and people will only latch on to the first part because they believe someone actually feels that way about them and they too feel that way but are too cowardly to say it themselves. But the fact that they’re constantly latching to every rumor or comparing everything Camila does to what 5H is or isn’t doing, is sad. They bitch and moan regularly about how often Camila’s name is in the mouths and on twitter pages of people who dislike her. Yet they also go out of their way to watch 5H videos and read interviews and search pages of relatives and friends to talk shit about them and talk about how “Camila would never”. 

They obsess over the people who they believe are obsessing over Camila. They are obsessing over 5H and what they are or aren’t doing no matter how much they claim to hate them. These are the same people who still follow them and their families on twitter and instagram. The same people who have follows from them, their team, or their family members and want them to see them talking shit. They love being blocked by the girls and posting about it. It’s like an achievement from them. So rather than beat them to the punch and block them/unfollow them, so that they don’t have to see their posts, they keep them so they know what’s going on with them. So they know what events they’re going to be at or which ones they’re going to be doing.

They are watching their sales and charting so they can compare it to Camila’s. They’re watching performances to compare them to Camila’s. They’re watching and carefully calculating expressions and faces of the girls that they believe are petty. Especially when it comes to times where Camila or anyone she’s ever interacted with. They really think 5H cares that much about who Camila has ever interacted with or who she’s friends with that they’d just be assholes if they’re mentioned. They’re listening to their music so that they can compare it to Camila’s. It’s obsession at this point. And it isn’t all of her fans. But it is a lot of them. It’s become truly an obsession with the girls and their fans that some of these people have and it’s pathetic. And it’s not to say that some Harmonizers behave the same way and it’s pathetic for them too. But why would you talk and learn so much about people who you claim to hate? It makes no sense.

What makes it worse though, is these people, these fans of Camila, really believe that 5H’s families care that much about Camila and what she’s doing. They really believe that Lauren’s mom would risk her job just to be a dick to a girl who is a fan of Camila. As if when her class starts, who that girl listens to in her spare time, will matter to Clara. As if that will affect her ability to complete homework and take tests. Why would anyone just fail a girl because they aren’t a fan of their daughters music? Why would she plague her classroom with conversations of who is a fan of who? And more so, why would you, as someone who will be a student in her class, ever put yourself in a position to be removed from a classroom because you may choose to disrupt a classroom with your love and hatred of a groups current and former members music? The music you like has no place in a classroom unless it is a music class or a discussion. No teacher is going to fail you or give you detention or any form of suspension just because you don’t like their kids music. Who tf cares.

But the fact that they will latch on to any rumor and obsess that much over 5H and their families, is sad. I hope we get to a place where people like Dan Wootton will stop hiding behind the title of ‘journalist’ and statements like ‘people want to know’ (cause really nobody cares at this point), to push the rumor mill and further an agenda that will tear down someones reputation. And I hope we get to a place where Camilizers (still a God awful fandom name) will just get over it and ignore 5H’s music and existence if they don’t like them, and Harmonizers will do the same with Camila. And for Christ sake, I hope that they’ll stop trying to bring other fandoms into drama that shouldn’t be in the first place. Mixers, Directioners, 5SOS fam, Mendes Army, Swifties, Selenators,  Ariana Grande fans (idk what they're called), or any other fandom has no place in any issues having to do with Camila’s fans or Harmonizers. It’s stupid. And it’s not high school, no matter how many of each side is still there.

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I’d just like to go on record to say, I don’t hate or dislike Camila in any way. I’m a fan of hers. Always have been. But I hate her fans.

If you don’t believe me, just go through my Camila Cabello tag and you’ll see.

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People have zero respect for Lauren when it comes to her personal life but expect her to give them respect when they’re criticizing her left and right about who she chooses to befriend or be in a relationship with. You’re nuts. You can’t be disrespectful then demand respect. She owes no explanation to anyone over her personal life. She signed up for this life but it doesn’t mean you need she needs to give fans any part of her personal life. It’s her and hers alone. So to criticize her for making that statement when it’s true. You can’t control who and what makes her happy and it’s really about time that she said something instead of standing by idly while people bitch about her and her choices. And to reduce her to her sexuality just because you can’t fathom that she likes boys and girls is so messed up. Just because she’s bi doesn’t mean she NEEDS to date a girl. And she certainly doesn’t have to do it for the sake of fans. People are calling her a disgrace to the LGBT community because she could be dating a man and you expect her to be nice over that shit? You’re crazy if you think that you can say that and her not be pissed at her. Let her make her mistakes and learn from them. You’re not her parents, you can’t control her. And you certainly can’t blinding bitch and moan about something just cause everyone else is. You know none of these people she associates with personally so you have no idea how she’s treated. Music doesn’t represent someone as a person all the time. Sometimes it’s just music. And past statements don’t always represent how you are as a person now so quit judging.

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Seriously, Camila’s fans need to back off. They constantly bitch about how those annoying OT4 people know just as much about Camila as they do yet they CONSTANTLY insert themselves in shit that has nothing to do with them or Camila. Each and every one of those people were fans of 5H at one point and now because what they THINK they did or didn’t do to Camila they’re suddenly the scum of the earth and such terrible people. And really, the fact that neither side has put either set of fans on blast is what keeps the bs going.

But her fans are constantly up 5H’s ass trying to see what they’re doing. If they’re such bad people and they hate them so much why do most of them still follow the girls on all social media or anyone that is associated with them? It makes no sense. Unless the goal has always been to keep tabs so they can keep talking shit. Dina LaPolt’s tweet has ZERO to do with Camila or her fans. It was about how Epic exploits 5H to make them money and treats them like shit. Yet of course, Camila’s fans have to make it about her.

Harmonizers are rightfully upset that Camila left 5H, remains on the label, & is given tons of funding to promote CITC. But 5H, who has been on the label for years as a single entity, is clearly not given the funding for their management to book promo spots like Camila was given. Not even when they had their biggest hits that made Epic tons of money were they booked on late shows or day time talk shows like Ellen or given as many award shows as Camila has been given as a solo artist. And Camila’s fans can swear up and down that she deserves it cause she works so hard and blah blah blah.

Yes, she does work hard, but her hard work has nothing to do with 5H being treated like shit from the label. Her work ethic has nothing to do with 5H not being given the proper budget for promo. She has nothing to do with the fact that 5H as they currently sit AND as they were before were never set up with teams, coaches, choreographers, song writers, and producers that would help them soar to new heights but when she went solo she was given that. The fact that they’re on the same label is a conflict of interest because now they are more clearly choosing her over them. Epic is failing the girls by not giving them what they need to further succeed.

And honestly, it isn’t Camila’s fault. She’s just taking what she was given and running with it. It’s frustrating, yes cause she’s been given funding to go to the UK & Canada and stay in hotels there for multiple days when 5H has been in the states and not giving any proper radio promo for their song because they don’t have the budget or their management isn’t using it right but also because they’re still fulfilling the remaining obligations that they had before Camila left.

Point is, their teams and their fans frustration with the label has zero to do with her yet they managed to weasel their way into it and make it about Camila, again and use it as a way to stay insulting the girls. And it’s beyond annoying now. If they don’t want people talking about Camila if they like/support 5H, then they need to do the same. It’s childish and annoying.

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I think it’s about time that Sean and the girls show production team give these girls some mic stands (and/or stools) for songs like Squeeze or No way where they can’t really do proper choreography for. Destiny’s Child would never have done swaying or moving around aimlessly with umbrellas for Brown Eyes or Cater 2 U. Give these girls a damn mic stand for songs that aren’t made to have choreography, dammit.

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It bothers me that majority of the awards that Camila is getting nominated for (and her fans are going ape shit over) are for songs that aren't even actually HERS. It’s collabs that she’s getting nominated for. I’m not sure why it’s bothering me, but it is. I’m not a huge fan of CITC, but I am still a fan of Camila and would much rather her get majority of her nominations for a song that is fully hers rather than one where someone essentially borrowed her voice for.

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Personally, I don’t believe in shitting on Camila’s voice in order to say that you like how the girls sound as a 4 piece. She was there 2 albums & 5 variations of an EP. You can’t erase her from it. You don’t have to like her voice but don’t shit on it just because you like how 5H sounds without it.

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Also, understand that these girls are 20-24

They are not nor will they ever be obligated to ‘control’ their family members. Their family members are adults. They’re all grown. They all fully understand the consequences of their actions and their words. These girls to those family members will always be ‘children’. These are all young women that come from POC/minority households, many of which do not tolerate disrespect of their elders. So to imply that they ever need to ‘handle’ or ‘control’ their elders is a very disrespectful gesture. What their elders say or do is out of their hands. And yes, it can make them look bad because it is their family members, but even their family can be fed up at times. They're human, they aren’t invincible, they’re not robots. They’re gonna feel the pain and anger and hurt that the girls will when they get hate spewed at them or lies made up about them go viral. They’re gonna experience it too. And their family members are allowed to be in the moment of their feelings and vent or snap sometimes. It doesn’t make them bad people, it makes them human. Not everyone can be zen all the time. But never ever will what their families say be their responsibility to correct or ‘handle’. Because generally, their families actions and words are not representative of them. Lauren is representative of herself. Ally is representative of herself. Norman is representative of herself. & Dinah is representative of herself. And even Camila, Camila is representative of herself. And it is only what they say or do that represents them, whatever it is. Their actions, thoughts, words, personal lyrics, art. That is what is representative of them, not their aunts/uncles or friends or parents or team members or employees (cause yes anybody that works for them [ie hair, makeup, stylist, etc] is employed by them) who are all grown and can handle themselves. 

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Staying ignorant is the best way to enjoy the music.

The best way to like both 5H & Camila’s music, to support both, is to stay out of the loop. Stay ignorant. Don’t look at interviews/articles from either side only to compare them with each other or to what they may have said or done in the past. Remember that what they decide to give the world isn’t all of them. Unless you know them personally you won’t get all of them. Meeting them once isn’t knowing them. Hearing the music isn’t understanding them. The best way to enjoy both is to stay ignorant. Otherwise you ruin both side for yourself. It’s messy cause of fans. People who hate 5H and people who hate Camila. Those are the people who make it messy. They jump to conclusions cause they think they know everything. 

They use little things like 5H’s lawyer not representing Camila (cause she’s had her own lawyer for some time now) and not including her name on the trademark agreement as an excuse to blame 5H for some made up problem. That’s not to say that the 5H name/brand didn’t belong to Camila as well, it just means that her name wasn’t on their agreement cause she wasn’t her lawyer. Camila’s lawyer could've drawn up an agreement for her that she signed separately. You don't know everything. Not everything is shade on either side. Not everything is malicious. 

But OT4 idiots and Camilizer imbeciles are making it that way. Things get taken out of context and misunderstood. Camila’s contract with 5H didn’t end until December. That doesn’t mean that cause her name wasn’t on the trademark agreement for the other girls, that she wasn’t being paid. I doubt Roger would let her get into a position where she wasn’t being paid. In fact she was probably being paid more. But she couldn’t just leave and she wasn’t working for free. So stop being idiots and just listen to the music of whoever you like and leave the other side alone. Both fan & artist. Leave each other alone. It’s annoying, petty, & pathetic.

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I really love Strangers. Like REALLY REALLY love it. I love Halsey’s voice in it. I love Lauren’s voice in it. Lyrically it’s great. And the fact that it’s a song that is about a woman being strangers with her partner who also happens to be a woman boosts it. Without disclosing any sexuality, it’s going to resinate with a lot of women. It’s actually probably just going to resinate with people in general cause people do go from lovers to strangers in the blink of an eye and it is heart breaking. Idk, I love it though. Halsey & Lauren did an amazing job with it.