#celestia genshin

[tinirainboom]

What if that whole scene was a complete lie? GENSHIN IMPACT THEORY by Tinirainboom

Since the truth is that the player's choice does not matter and it does not change the story of the game, then... What if we never had a real sister? since in reality the canon is Aether and Lumine is the one with the abyss…

(it is shown by the plot cinematics that genshin shows of trama like "We will meet again", "Footprints", “Dim Luminar”, "The road not taken" and “Passing Memories”)

and it is a whole lie created by the Teyvat matrix itself to deceive the MC or us like players?

We do not have "real" evidence about the story of the "twin brothers" since it cannot be possible that one is descended and the other is not, that is where something does not add up. That also happens to Aether when Nahida tells him this. So... "Lumine" means light and "Aether":

According to Greek and medieval science, ether (ancient Greek: αἰθήρ, aither), also called quintessence, is the material that fills the region of the universe above the sphere land. The concept of ether was used in several theories to explain various natural phenomena, such as the movement of light and gravity. In the late 19th century, physicists postulated that the ether permeated all space, providing a medium through which light could travel in a vacuum, but evidence for the presence of such a medium was not found in Michelson's experiment. Morley, and this result has been interpreted in the sense that there is no luminiferous ether. The word αἰθήρ (aithēr) in Homeric Greek means "pure, fresh air" or "clear sky"(Aether's Japanese name is Sora= Sky). In Greek mythology, it was believed to be the pure essence that the gods breathed, filling the space where they lived, analogous to the air mortals breathed. Even Aether is also personified as a deity, Ether, the son of Erebus and Nyx in traditional Greek mythology.

Do you see that it is no coincidence that just "Aether" the canon MC is a descendant? Hoyoverse is not silly and does not do things at random.

And many times we are the only ones who can do things that others cannot and "coincidentally" there are no other people who interact with "Dainsleif", only Khaenri'ah characters interact with him such as Kaeya in the Sumeru mission, or the mention of Capitano in the Natlan mission, even our supposed "twin brother" and then us (we don't count Paimon since it is clear that she is not a being from that world, Teyvat). The same data from the game says that there can be no living beings in the Abyss (we already witnessed that from the victims of Natlan, Sumeru, Liyue/The Chasm...) and just "Lumine" is there, like the "princess of the abyss" she is DEAD, the same thing happens with the people of Khaenri'ah, they are DEAD IN LIVING/SOULS IN BARRAIN due to Celestia's punishment, that is why they are still in the world of Teyvat. That means that the twin brother that is with the Abyss is our counterpart, since as I explained before the "Aether" is EVERYTHING, and the light "LUMINE" is a part of that, just a fragment. For some reason she tells us, "We will meet again", "You will understand everything at the end of the journey", she speaks in a context future in the past tense (avoiding giving the answer so that you understand for yourself by taking the journey to reveal the truth) and as if we need to remember WHAT REALLY HAPPENED and Dainsleif's character is the part of that key.

Since he (Dainsleif) himself also has the attitudes of someone who IS DEAD, like on those occasions when he always lets us (MC) do the work, not HIM, for example: "I can't now, I have to go", "I'm just passing through" or he leaves without say anything, this type of actions are of a soul in pain and just his peers or someone related to the abyss, like "Lumine" can communicate with him, even Zhongli said that he cannot speak about him or the TRUTH because of a "contract". Even Venti in one of the voice lines tells us that "he's seen us before" and coincidentally "we" don't remember it. That further supports that Lumine is simply a fragment of the MC and that is why we are incomplete. Even Lumine has these "living dead"/lost soul attitudes when she appears. Lumine evades the important questions we ask her in the Archon Quest Chapter IV: Act VI - Bedtime Story, answering in a vague, generic way about something we really know called "the Loom of Fate" and only naming "her plans", enigmatic way to avoid specifically answering "TO HER OWN BROTHER" on purpose. She even wants to prevent us from teaming up with Dain and said it to our faces in Archon Quest Chapter I: Act IV - We Will Be Reunited: "why are you with Dain?", "You shouldn't team up with this man. He is my enemy”.

⭐︎Fun fact 1: Did you know that Aether's earring starts in black on its journey through Teyvat and over time it changes to the color spectrum of the elements of each nation while Lumine's light was always white and never changed? Aether = everything, Lumine = light. Even Lumine's clothes are white, and what's the light like? WHITE, however in Aether it is more varied, he has balance, with dark colors and a white scarf and cape with a drawing of a golden shooting star on it. Coincidence? I don't believe it. "Twins" always represent a duality. ⭐︎Fun fact 2: Did you know that the name Lumine in Japanese, Hotaru, means Firefly? In Japanese mythology, fireflies are associated with the spirits of the dead, referencing Hotaru's status as a warrior of death and rebirth. And "coincidentally" Lumine fights for the Abyss, which is death itself (we saw it in Natlan at its best pov) and wants to be "reborn", that is, reform the rules of Teyvat and govern it at his will. Here I give you an image of Fun fact 1:

Doesn't this remind you of something? he he

Surely we do fight against the "sustainer of heavenly principles" but not as really shown in the scene here in the beginning, which affects both counterparts about what they consider real and what not, because… if even the Irminsul himself can overwrite real information with false information like Scaramouche did. So, why shouldn't we doubt that just that "unknown Deity" has done something to us? Since Aether thinks she just sealed his powers, but like I said THAT'S WHAT HE BELIEVES. As she is an entity with great power and was not even seen sweating or struggling to catch the twins, even indirectly the same game confirms to us that the false sky is real thanks to the power borrowed from Ronova the shadow of death of Phanes that she gave to Mavuika to defeat the abyss and unintentionally breaking the sky of Teyvat... It shows that this "deity", the "sustainer of heavenly principles" is capable of altering reality and space, and is surely capable of confronting others entities/descendants (like us) then... Why should we trust what we saw at the beginning of the game? since it may be an altered memory. Even with us, in real life, it happens that the brain fills in compiled information when it does not remember and you create a false memory.

The world of Teyvat is a matrix, a false reality. Even players with the pause menu can control "time", Mavuika also told us that time itself is an illusion since the past, present and future are the same line, they pass simultaneously. This can be confirmed with Aether since what he "supposedly" experienced with the "twin sister" and the incident of the "unknown Goddess" were as if it had happened to him yesterday and not 500 years ago. Time itself is relative. A classic reference to this is the movie Matrix Reloaded, in the scene of Neo talking to the Architect. And why am I referring to that scene? Because Neo being the "chosen one" is a failure of the Matrix system and the architect tells him this. In our case, Aether/MC is a flaw in the Teyvat system since he is a descendant, in short an outside entity/alien. Did you even realize that the decisions we make in Genshin Impact as players do not affect anything, that they are completely USELESS? Since a clear example is the Natlan war or the Sumeru's Samsara, it does not matter which direction you take, those people are going to die and you will not see them again, the same choice is a LIE, an ILLUSION. Unlike Honkai Star Rail, our decisions do change the story of the destination of MC's journey and this is demonstrated with the alternative endings with a black screen and it tells you what happens, but in Genshin this does not happen for a very simple reason. Teyvat is a world of lies, and within the matrix you cannot change things, something that Neo was not able to do at the beginning because he did not realize that he was the chosen one and could break the rules, something that MC still cannot do.

Ultimately, the problem is the choice, just like The Matrix Reloaded. Neo realized that the choice itself did not change things in his favor and the only thing it did was favor the vicious cycle of the Matrix, so he decided NOT TO CHOOSE and CREATE A SOLUTION. In the case of Neo there were 5 chosen ones before him and they fell into the trap, the same thing will have happened with the other three descendants of Genshin and now it is up to us, who we are the fourth to change the rules and not continue with the cycle. There is evidence that comes from the game itself that Teyvat is a lie and that is demonstrated in Wings of Feasting with its inscription, but the most important is what it says at the end: "Teyvat's borders have grown fragile these past two years — looks like Mommy's going to have to get busy." These are Alice's words towards Klee and the reason for his absence. It has already been shown that witches are entities that can create life and underworlds with their own rules within Teyvat (events of the Golden Apple Archipelago, the island of Sri Lanka, even the fantasy theater, etc). 

And now coincidentally all the archons are rebelling in their own way against Celestia giving the Gnosis that have divine knowledge and as Skrik said are part of the corpse of the third descended (Venti created a false Gnosis since if you pay attention when Zhongli or Nahida deliver the Gnosis They don't shine and the one that Signora grabs in Mondstadt does, like the lyre that "he repaired with his power") but with his attitude he shows that he knows more than necessary. And the Fatuis are putting everything together to carry out the Tsaritsa's plan against Celestia.

⭐︎Fun fact 3: When we have to choose the twin and we give him a name, will the rest of the people never say it? They are going to call us "Traveler", except for our supposed twin. The same thing happens in the Undertale game, that at the beginning of the game we choose MC's name but they call us "human" and at the end MC reveals his name and it is Frisk. The election is a lie. Also in Archon Quest Chapter III: Act VI - Caribert, the broken mirror scene is almost the same as the one in the movie Avengers Endgame when the Nebula of the past accidentally connected with the memories of the Nebula of the future? She was able to pass that connection since she was "relatively close" to the Nebula of the future and could not understand what was happening, the same thing happened to MC seeing his twin in his reflection, and that he was seeing through the memories of the counterpart of themselves and just right in the place of the events of the past but in another time. Which makes my theory stronger.   ⭐︎Fun fact 4: It should be noted that the Pari, creations made by the Goddess of Flowers (now completely proven that the Seeles were angels in the past, by Natlan's last mission in 3.1) were the ones who indirectly mentioned to us about Lumine and Dain's journey in Teyvat. Besides, it is no coincidence that they have the power to stop the abyss because they are the creation of an angel in itself. ⭐︎Fun fact 5: The story of the battle pass that Venti tells is an allegory of what is currently happening to these "supposed twins" and the snake acting as a temptation to the strange entity of the "Sinner" who himself says that: "O dear creature, why do you bow down? For fear of the unknown? Or for a power that you covet?, "O dear creature, why do you bow down? For I am no god... I am but a Sinner", "You are like a flower born in sin yet pure, spotless... I know your fate well", "You need no longer hold back your resentment, nor accept the countless lies", "Go forth, become a transcendent one, rise beyond the fate bestowed upon you...", "And I shall shed a tear at the end of time... as I look back upon your life". Words that served Lumine, who is the light, being a pure flower but who can sin, go to the darkness of the abyss. ⭐︎Final fact: If you paid attention to the "Footprints" video, at the beginning of the video "the so-called  twins" appear together in the field of happy flowers and then at the end of the journey of everything, Aether appears alone in that field looking at his hand with a face melancholic, serious and reflective, as if he had discovered a hard and cruel truth at the same time. As the saying goes: "The truth is a very difficult dish to swallow." And there is even another Genshin video that is "Genshin Impact Commemorative Preview «Dim Luminar»" that just "Lumine" tells the entire story that had happened until now (to Sumeru) as if it had been a "witness" of everything, just like a spirit that sees everything that happens to the rest because they became an entity of the fourth dimension. At the end of the video, our “supposed sister” says: "Let's continue another time. Sooner or later, he will leave his mark on the desert. I wonder what choices you will make, Aether?" At the end of the day, did you realize that the scenes between the two of them are like seeing a reflection of themselves? There are no differences and no changes in the history, but it is like seeing a mirror. Lumine at the end of saying that is like looking at yourself in a showcase and saying "what are you going to do this time, me from the past?"

Ready! end of all the argument and theory of Genshin. If you've made it this far, thank you very much for reading. Reblogs would serve a lot to spread this theory throughout the Genshin community.The images are not mine, they are from their respective gif creators. This theory is made by me and my father who we're players. If you're going to use it, give credits to this blog! Now, have a good day, afternoon or night.

~Reiko Yukimura~

[asterinthewritten]

spoilers for the 5.2 archon quest

Capitano reveals that Guthred, Capitano's 2nd in command, died because he was testing the Draught of Lucidity on himself to make sure it's viable as medicine for the Abyssal Corrosion Syndrome. Having the name "Guthred" (German, Frank-ish roots like Caribert, Alberich, etc.) also implies that Guthred is a Khaenri'ahn as well. Since he died and Capitano didn't, does that mean that Khaenri'ahns can die from Abyssal Corrosion?

We already have tons of evidence about the Abyss's effects on hilichurls and other Khaenri'ahns. The "peace" they had when they got closer to Abyssal power, the "cleansing" effect that it had to Dainsleif during the Chasm interlude, and the creation of the Loom of Fate with Chlotar and Caribert.

So does that mean the Abyss is the one power in this world that can actually kill Khaenri'ahns? But why would Celestia curse them all with immortality, and then throw a Celestial Pin into the ground to release Abyssal monsters to massacre them? It doesn't make sense... If the Heavenly Principles wanted Khaenri'ahns gone once and for all, why curse them with immortality in the first place?

One theory that's been going around is that Teyvat has a reincarnation system, especially since all of Teyvat's memories are stored in the tree of Irminsul. So by cursing Khaenri'ah with immortality, they wouldn't be able to reincarnate. But wouldn't that still backfire? I mean, it already did, considering the "World, forget me" thing with Rukkhadevata and forbidden knowledge. Which, by the way, happened at the same time as the Catastrophe. Point is, wouldn't all records of Khaenri'ah still be recorded in the Irminsul even while they're all immortal? They just don't have a way to start a fresh branch.

That begs another question: is the Abyss at all recorded in the Irminsul tree? Were they part of Teyvat as normal beings even before, or did they come from another planet/dimension entirely? Where did they come from, and why are their powers a complete antithesis for elemental energy?

That makes me think that Celestia didn't release the Abyss at all. I think they just happened to destroy a barrier to another world while causing the Khaenri'ahn catastrophe, and when Abyss monsters came from the barrier they literally were like. "Oh fuck let's dip! Thanks for killing them all btw owe u one!"

I truly don't think Celestia is all that smart about ruling Teyvat. They haven't done anything about Irminsul's corruption, Furina/Focalors, and still nothing even after the fake sky got revealed. I wonder what cards they're holding if they are smart, but I wouldn't give them that much credit--I honestly think they're just a bunch of tyrants playing god with stolen power.

[thespianinthebackcorner]

just reread my post on Khaenri'ah and the natural order of things and Celestia's attempts to enforce an artificial order and I realised something.

Teyvat was originally controlled by the Dragon Sovereigns and their brethren, yes?

What if that's why Rhine likes dragons so much? Or rather, why she creates them?

Because if Khaenri'ah is investigating the "natural order" of Teyvat...

Dragons would be the first step. Reintroduce the native dominant species and see what happens. Obviously Celestia is getting in the way, but... Khaenri'ah also managed to kill gods and went looking for records from before Celestia's time. What if they're trying to rehabilitate Teyvat into its purest form- the "Old World" that came before the gods? Reintroducing predators is literally a form of long-term conservation in natural areas. It makes sense, not to mention that they have a higher chance of taking the gods down.

Or maybe it's just that consciousnesses from that Old World- now confined to the Abyss- manifest as dragons because that is what they were. Durin and Elynas were both once dragons from the old world, but were resurrected and given new names by Rhinedottir.

That would explain why they both adapt and can even resurrect life, too- even themselves, with some help, as we learned from Elynas and Jakob. They are literally reincarnees. (Is that the word? It is now.) Their power is that of survival by any means, even if that means is ditching a solid body and resigning the bare bones of their consciousness to a bottomless pit for the next hundred thousand years.

Just thinkin'.

[twig-vt]

on his quest for immortality- baizhu got frustraited and just decided to walk to celestia himself - image taken by friend in co op

[starcharmed]

Idk if anyone’s said this before, but abyss mages and lectors only use the elements of deceased archons. That’s why there are no anemo, geo, and dendro abyss mages. They could release them in future updates though, so it’s just a theory rn. I’ll have to do some more research before saying why they only use deceased archon’s elements, but I’m pretty sure it has something to do with ties to Celestia.

[kunzoi-12]

does anyone actually know what archons are ?? or rather what they need to do to become archons because Khaen'ria being god-less , Celestia could've just made a new archon but instead she goes through the process of killing thousands instead.....that must mean there is a process to become an archon, right??

[arcsin27]

using two points of reference, one in the deserts of Sumeru and one in Jueyun Karst, I tried to pinpoint the location of Celestia (or whatever those floating islands are)

idk if it really worked though, standing in the Realm of Farakhert I got this line of sight. obviously way off

edit: standing in Old Mondstadt, the original pin was correct (note the navigation stamp in the minimap)

thats 3 vs 1 so i think i got it right

[radiance1]

Hey Genshin Impacters and my fellow Honkai Star Railers.

I propose an IDEA.

Based on this one tiktok my friend told me about where someone said that the siblings from Genshin Impact r Aeons.

Which I don't believe- more so don't want to believe because that would mean that the Unknown God and Celestia has the power to make an Aeon -even more so two of them- not an Aeon anymore in terms of power anymore.

But enough of THAT.

We go with my other thing I was thinking about, so when Venti went around the world after the Archon war and healed the world, he then sung to the stars and in return, the Wings of Shimmering Galaxy fell to Teyvat.

So I propose an idea to you two different fandoms.

What if Venti didn't sing to just the stars, but to an Aeon as well?

So my friend proposed that Aeon to be Xipe of the Harmony, whereas I proposed it was IX of the Nihility.

Now hear me out on IX, because I know that they think of everything as worthless, but what if they liked Venti's music? Saw it as one of the only things worth, well, anything.

So, Venti sung to the stars and IX of the Nihility, and unknowingly the two became friends and in return, IX dropped the Wing of Shimmering Galaxy down into Teyvat.

But unfortunately for IX -and this has to regarding that earlier theory of the siblings being Aeons- Celestia saw them as a threat, and so blocked them off from Teyvat and as extension, Venti's music as well.

So then IX just goes back to how they were, seeing everything as worthless.

Perhaps Celestia thought they had ill intent when they noticed IX's presence close to the world of Teyvat, perhaps there was another reason. Who knows.

I certainly don't.

I just wanted to put this idea out there because I thought of it :3

[zillychu]

everyone sh. shutd up im cooking smthn

[sadko101]

WHAT IS UNDER CELESTIA

[straylaughs]

neuvillette is just so peak character to me because everytime we see him do some regular human things i instantly remember that he's literally the hydro dragon sovereign incarnate, one of the 7 elemental dragon sovereigns who ruled teyvat before the primordial one and descenders came, a being that possesses power that far surpasses archons and you're telling me he fell for a marketing scheme

[turtlespancake]

i love seeing out of context posts about long-running stories with deep lore because it's always shit like "MAJOR SPOILER WARNING!! i can't believe that the metallic athenaeum's envoy actually used never-ending dance of the 57th universe on rionne as if she's not LITERALLY the incarnate of august?!?!" it's like buddy boy thank you for the spoiler tag but all of those words are incomprehensible without at least 5 years of foreshadowed knowledge, 7 different fan theories, and 21 wiki entries

[thespianinthebackcorner]

thinking about how everything Khemia-related is circular- their glyphs in particular. Thinking about how Khemia is the power of life and creating life and how circles are a natural shape. Thinking about how the Unknown God's power is comprised of squares and squares aren't natural very often. Thinking about that it was her power that destroyed Khaenri'ah. Thinking about how Khaenri'ah was based on life and their power is made of circles and when they were destroyed the power that killed them was made of cubes. Thinking about how Khaenri'ah's story is all antithesis and opposition- gods and humans, immortality and mortality, creation and destruction, natural and unnatural, heaven and abyss. Thinking about how Khaenri'ah's story is about proving that what we assume is bad isn't always that bad and maybe it's the "holy" things that are worse. Thinking about how Khaenri'ah's alchemy tried to harness the power of Teyvat's innate nature to help them, and the rebelling power that destroyed them was unnatural and from beyond. Thinking about how Khaenri'ah's goal seemed to be to figure out Teyvat's origins and what is "natural" to Teyvat as apposed to Celestia's artificial changes. Thinking about how Rhinedottir, a Khaenri'ahn, created "synthetic" life with a power natural to Teyvat but maybe it's not synthetic life at all, she just guided the power and maybe being uncontrolled by the gods makes Albedo and his brothers more natural than anything else. Thinking about how his Vision might be a way for Celestia to attempt to control Albedo for their own gains but he uses it so little it's not even working. Thinking about how the natural order of things is ingrained in the Dragon Sovereign's way of thinking and how the game is slowly pushing us to ally with them and go against Celestia, maybe the real story is about nature and how to differentiate between a false nature, an artificial garden of paradise, and true nature, a chaos that cannot be controlled and will create life as it sees fit with no regard for the world around it.

Thinking about Khaenri'ah, creation and destruction. Thinking about maybe the "order" that Celestia enforces is maybe not order at all, just repression of nature's true order

[hajihiko]

KoFi batch!

Rantaro and Leon hanging out. As dude guys do.

Fuyuhiko and Celestia being besties (this one is based on dialogue una side game where Fuyuhiko invites Celestia to lunch)

Fuyuhiko and Hiyoko dressed as Genshin characters (hiyoko NO)

SPOCK! I did my best lmao. Nimoy has such an interesting face.

[peevishpants]

ad astra abyssosque

[goooooooody]

𝘕𝘰𝘣𝘰𝘥𝘺 𝘸𝘪𝘭𝘭 𝘬𝘯𝘰𝘸