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maladjusted-nerd · 4 years ago

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Starsky and Hutch’s Girlfriends (and Their Hair Color)

[PBS announcer voice] This post is brought to you by the time I was reading The Ollie Report for Bounty Hunter and came across the memorable line: “Again, Starsky is drawn to the dark-haired girl, Hutch to the blonde. Exogamists they are not.”

These are the two ladies in question, respectively:

I thought of this quote a lot as I continued watching the show, because it was quite often relevant. But then I got to Starsky’s Lady, and suddenly Hutch’s date wasn’t a blonde! I began to wonder about the quote, and the truth of the sentiment behind it (which is by no means specific to that one blog). Did Hutch really tend to go for the blondes, and Starsky for the dark-haired women?

So like any sane person, I decided to spend a billion hours of my life making a long-ass photo-heavy meta post that hopefully someone will care about. If anyone actually finds this information interesting or useful I will be happy, buuut I guess if nothing else it gives us an excuse to look at a bunch of pretty ladies.

How did I decided who’s here: I started with the list of women from the Canon Compendium’s Girlfriends and Dates page, added anyone whom I felt the boys made a “concerted effort” to flirt with, and then threw out a few people I didn’t think belonged. I tried my hardest to be objective, but making this list was by no means an exact science and several times it really just boiled down to “do I personally believe she should be on here” so like people will have different opinions on that and it’s fine! Spice of life or whatever.

As for the actual contents of the list: I will state each woman’s name and the episode she’s in. (If she doesn’t have a name she’s listed as Jane Doe. This is a cop show, after all.) I will state her hair color-- for Reasons and also My Sanity the only options are “blonde” or “darkhaired” (not blonde), but hair color is fucking weird and sometimes it was a guess so feel free to think otherwise. I will also state the reason that she’s here, aka the nature of her relationship with Hutch or Starsky (or both)-- so spoiler warning for pretty much everything, I guess.

Also fair warning that sometimes I was too lazy to get a good picture, or it was just actually impossible (newsflash: discos have bad lighting). Rip to any women I may have made look bad, you’re all beautiful queens and I love you.

Pre-Show

Vanessa (Hutchinson Murder One)- Darkhaired. Hutch’s late ex-wife and all-around terrible person.

Laura Kanen (Deckwatch)- Blonde. Hutch’s ex-girlfriend.

Helen Davidson (Lady Blue)- Blonde. Starsky’s late ex-girlfriend.

Kathy Marshall (Fatal Charm)- Darkhaired. A stewardess friend of theirs; it’s never said she’s an ex BUT she kisses Hutch square on the mouth in greeting and is Starsky’s date for dinner/disco. And she dances with both of them. Good enough for me!

Season 1

Hutch

Jeannie Walton (The Fix)- Blonde. His girlfriend at the start of the episode but not by the end! (Rip king)

Molly (Pariah)- Darkhaired. Stewardess friend/one-night stand? Something like that. Also his date at the end.

Jane Doe (Deadly Imposter)- Blonde. His date at the party.

Abigail Crabtree (Deadly Imposter to Vendetta)- Blonde. The only girlfriend we see in several episodes!! (The only girlfriend that lasts several episodes, whoops.)

Starsky

Jane Doe (Pariah)- Blonde. His date at the end.

Jane Doe (Deadly Imposter)- Darkhaired. His date at the party.

Amy (The Hostages)- Darkhaired. She works at a café that he’s going to for a second time, to let her know he’s ~available.

Sharman Crane (Running)- Darkhaired. They had a semester of woodshop together in junior high and then they kind of fall in love while he’s helping her dry out.

Season 2

Hutch

Abby (Deadly Imposter to Vendetta)- Still blonde. Miraculously still his girlfriend. (Until she isn’t.)

Gillian Ingram (Gillian)- Blonde. His now-late girlfriend who fucking deserved better.

Jane Doe (Gillian)- Blonde. Lady at the bowling alley that Starsky discreetly tries to set him up with.

Christine (Starsky’s Lady)- Darkhaired. His date of the episode.

Starsky

Vicky (The Las Vegas Strangler)- Darkhaired. They don’t really get a chance to go on an official date but they kiss a bunch and he’s really sweet on her and it’s cute.

Andrea (Vendetta)- Darkhaired. His picnic date.

Nancy Rogers (Gillian)- Darkhaired. His bowling date.

Terry Roberts (Starsky’s Lady)- Darkhaired. His now-late girlfriend who, like Gillian, also fucking deserved better.

Laura Stevens (The Velvet Jungle)- Blonde. They’re on a date at the end, but it should also be noted they meet when she accidentally knocks him into a dumpster. You know, like the start of any good romance.

Sharon Freemont (Starsky and Hutch Are Guilty)- Blonde. His evil lawyer girlfriend. (Not that he knows she’s evil.)

Both

Jane and Bobette (The Vampire)- Jane is the blonde on the right, Bobette is the darker blonde on the left. Starsky and Hutch mix up their names so it’s hard to tell which girl they actually like better, and also they’re twins so like does it even really matter?

Officer Sally Hagen (The Specialist)- Darkhaired. Starsky kisses up her arm in her first scene (someone please file a workplace harassment suit against him), and then at the end he and Hutch keep wrapping their arms around her waist. But she does get to flip both of them over her shoulder, so it kinda evens out.

Season 3

Hutch

Dianna Harmon (Fatal Charm)- Darkhaired. His possessive, violent nurse girlfriend. (You can really pick ‘em, Hutchinson.)

Dr. Judith Kaufman (The Plague)- Darkhaired. He tries so hard, but twas not meant to be.

Molly Bristol (The Collector)- Darkhaired. His girlfriend du jour.

Anna Akhanatova (A Body Worth Guarding)- Blonde. He’s technically her bodyguard and then they spend like two whole days making out. Good for them.

Mary (Class in Crime)- Blonde. His fishing date.

Starsky

Jane Doe (Murder on Playboy Island)- Darkhaired. Undercover agent he flirts with at the bar.

Rosey Malone (I Love You Rosey Malone)- Blonde. The entire plot revolves around him falling in love with her and it really doesn’t end well.

Jane Doe (The Collector)- Darkhaired. His date at their late-night deli party. (Bonus Starsky in the picture, hi Starsky!)

Sharon Carstairs (The Heavyweight)- Blonde. Their canoodling on his couch gets interrupted by Important Case Matters, and she winds up getting re-engaged to her ex-fiancé (ex-ex-fiancé?). Rip to a king.

Rachel (Class in Crime)- Darkhaired. His fishing date.

Caitlin (Class in Crime)- Her hair almost has a red tint but it’s otherwise undefinable. Car saleslady/one-night stand.

K.C. McBride (Quadromania)- Blonde. They have a nice taxi date (although he’s been sleep deprived all episode, poor boy, and falls asleep).

Both

Christine Phelps (The Heroes)- Blonde. She makes them lose all their braincells, it’s painful to witness. This episode hopes you will forget the actress was Gillian last season.

Julie McDermott (The Action)- Blonde. Starsky wins the kerfuffle for her but Hutch definitely makes a good go of it.

Lisa Kendricks (Foxy Lady)- Blonde. They drool and fight over her for half an episode like they did with Christine and it’s embarrassing.

Season 4

Hutch

Paula (Photo Finish)- Darkhaired. He’s like her date at the party, and also the end.

Kate Larrabee (Cover Girl)- Darkhaired. An old friend of his. It starts out just as a comfort thing but they quickly become very friendly.

Marlene (Starsky’s Brother)- Darkhaired. Starsky steals her from Nicky as a Big Brother Power Move but Hutch winds up with her at the bar.

Marianne Owens (Ballad for a Blue Lady)- Darkhaired. I don’t really know what’s going on here but there’s Something (and there’s a lot of parallels with Rosey Malone, so).

Starsky

Sergeant Lizzie Thorpe (Discomania)- Blonde. Technically Hutch talks with her more, but Starsky does most of the flirting.

Jane Doe (Discomania)- Darkhaired. He spends literally five minutes dancing with her. Is it relevant to the case? No. Does he care? Also no.

Emily Harrison (Blindfold)- Darkhaired. He accidentally blinds her during a case so he starts hanging out with her out of guilt but I feel like he also kinda falls in love; they kiss at one point anyway.

Marcie Fletcher (Photo Finish)- Blonde. His photographer girlfriend.

Officer Dee O’Reilly (Strange Justice)- Blonde. His meter maid girlfriend. They have a date at the end!

Jane Doe (Dandruff)- Darkhaired. He’s making out with her at the beginning.

Detective Joan Meredith (Black and Blue)- Darkhaired. It’s Heavily implied they slept together. (Side note love u Meredith!)

Melinda Rogers (The Groupie)- Blonde. He has a date with her at the end. (Yeah she slept with Hutch, but he was undercover and proceeds to lowkey rebuff her in the tag, so I’m not counting it.)

Katie (Starsky’s Brother)- Blonde. His date at the nightclub.

Both

Allison May/Laura Anderson (Targets Without a Badge parts 2 & 3)- Darkhaired. They both try to court her before Starsky realizes she’s his childhood friend (although they do make another go of it in the tag).

Kira (Starsky vs Hutch)- Blonde. Starsky’s girlfriend, although she says she’s also in love with Hutch so then they sleep together which Starsky is NOT thrilled about and it’s a very ugly mess.

Totals:

Hutch:

Pre-show: 3 (1 blonde, 2 dark) Season 1: 4 (3 blonde, 1 dark) Season 2: 6 (4 blonde, 2 dark) Season 3: 8 (5 blonde, 3 dark) Season 4: 6 (1 blonde, 5 dark) Overall: 26 (13 blonde, 13 dark)

(If the math looks weird, it’s cause Abigail counts for both seasons she’s in but only once overall.)

Starsky:

Pre-show: 2 (1 blonde, 1 dark) Season 1: 4 (1 blonde, 3 dark) Season 2: 8 (3 blonde, 5 dark) Season 3: 10 (6 blonde, 3 dark, 1 ??) Season 4: 11 (6 blonde, 5 dark) Overall: 35 (17 blonde, 17 dark, 1 ??)

(Thirty-five?? Calm the fuck down, Starsky.)

In conclusion:

“Exogamists, they are not” might have been true back at the end of season 1 when it was said, but it’s certainly not true by season 4/the end of the series. Hutch now seems to favor dark-haired women, and Starsky’s about half and half, although they both wind up with an equal split overall.

Do with that information what you will; I’m outta here.

#starsky and hutch #long post #adventures in meta #everyone say thank you canon compendium!#alternate titles: 'Fuck Me' and 'The Meta Post That Kicked My Ass'#dear god that was a lot #why can't i do productive things with my time....#anyway i'm taking a week's vacation now #major respect to people who do huge meta things cause this was exhausting #bless you all

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littlesailorinthesun · 5 years ago

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retcons, the timeline, and shining nikki

I recently received the Lore Files book, and though it’s in Chinese, a few friends of mine have helped me dig through it. If you aren’t aware, the book is a 2020 release: an official compendium of lore as well as an artbook. It’s only available in Chinese, but it is what it is; at least I don’t have to concern myself with bad translation this way.

This post is less of an essay and more of a rant, for what it’s worth. But to those who like the story as much as I do, perhaps you’ll find it interesting as well.

The lore book is... comprehensive.

It’s interesting what it decided to go into detail on, and what it decided not to. Many characters had about as much information as you could glean from their first story appearance and did not go into further detail, such as the Mayor and Starlet. Some were surprisingly more elaborate.

It answered some questions, though not as many as I would have wanted. As was implied before but never directly stated (my nemesis), Bobo is the descendant of the True King, aka the “Lightbringer” - an unofficial translation, but apparently pretty true to the literal meaning. What’s more, even more information was given about this mysterious figure, such as his real name, exactly when he lived and died, and a few more specifics about his life.

However, it didn’t confirm many popular implied-but-never-directly-stated fan theories (a topic I hope to elaborate on later on this blog). It did give a couple of shreds of evidence that supported them. But I’m sort of a person that likes solid proof, if you understand what I mean? That’s why I take so much care to write when something is unconfirmed.

New information

Some more information it gave contradicted some older information. One of which I’m a little sensitive to is regarding Ace. She was previously listed as a Sagittarius on a Weibo post, and a little-known (I think?) fact is that this information was reflected in-game during the Brave New World event! In the pavilion screen, each character (Bobo, Lunar, Kimi, and Ace) had a constellation next to them that corresponded with their canonical zodiac, so there were multiple pieces of evidence indicating Ace’s zodiac. However, her new zodiac is Aries with a birthday of March 28. It also contradicted her height and made her seven (!!!) centimeters shorter than her previously-stated height (167cm -> 160cm).

Other characters with new birthday information given were Xiao Zong, Nidhogg, and (I guess) Cesare. (We could have assumed Cesare’s birthday was the same as Chloris’ before, but it’s nice to have confirmation.) While the book gave us Nidhogg’s age (28), it did not directly state Xiao Zong’s in his profile. However, a glimpse into the timeline at the back of the book showed us Sayet’s year of birth, and Sayet is canonically older than Xiao Zong. The only thing is, Sayet would be ninety-seven were he still alive today. Xiao Zong being younger than 97 feels, frankly, absurd to me, considering this is a man who apparently lived so long he got bored with life. It’s also possible that he lied to Sayet about his age. But this is all we have to go on!

What about Shining Nikki?

At first glance, this book seems to be a shockingly unifying force that marries Love Nikki lore and Shining Nikki lore. Spoilers for the ending of Love Nikki, but we learn in the very first chapter of Shining Nikki that Nikki saw Lierlide, a god-like edgy handsome white-haired boye (let me thirst okay), destroy all of Miraland and that’s basically why she’s not in 680 anymore.

Well, the book has several pages with pictures of Lierlide and the Ark, and even an explanation of what the Ark is. That’s pretty cool.

But then you flip to the timeline at the end of the book, and you’re left scratching your head.

Shining Nikki has a detailed account of the Apple independence war, set years before the main story, but the timeline writes that Apple gained independence in 147 New Era after an uprising against colonial rule - two very different dates given.

It also writes that the Mercury Bank was established in 478 New Era, which is even more absurd. Even just a glimpse into SN lore will show you that Mercury is already a major financial presence. (You can even see one of their buildings in this recently-released PV!)

Finally, the last thing that was not in the lore book (from what I’ve seen), but was released at the same time as the book was released, is a post that claims, among other things, that the first computer in Miraland was created in year 556. Given that we see actual computers in Shining Nikki as well as a host of other technology, even social media, I don’t think these two facts are reconcilable.

So are they trying to be compliant with Shining Nikki or???

Resolving the gaps

How does one resolve these inconsistencies in the timeline? It seems that they’re trying to do just that by claiming that, around the time of Shining Nikki, everyone entered an extended shared dream. This shared dream also included advanced technology and, to an extent, influenced the world afterwards. Information about the dream was written both in the post linked above as well as in the book. It feels like what they are trying to insinuate is that that shared dream is Shining Nikki.

However, this was never stated! The only things we know is that the dream and Shining Nikki were said to happen at the same year. The shared dream occurrence is meant to be an explanation for why they started their calendar over, NOT an explanation for Shining Nikki. As I understand it, they don’t actually have an explanation in Shining Nikki, and from what I’ve seen, only Nikki has called it “year 0″ there. I don’t know what calendar system they currently think they’re using. Please feel free to correct me if you know more, though.

Even this feels shaky, though, when you try to think about how long this dream would have lasted if every piece of information given in Shining Nikki that contradicts this timeline was included. Mercury (the man) is over a hundred years old, and he’s not the only ridiculously old person who has memories stretching back years. Would people have been born inside the dream, like the eighteen-year-old Haizhe who is strongly implied to be an ancestor of Kimi’s?

It feels like they could have easily just not included these contradictory things in the timeline. It is not like the writers of this book didn’t know about Shining Nikki’s existence, as the entire book opens with it. So it seems likely that they are doing it on purpose to fuel the theory that Shining Nikki happened, but it happened in a dream-world, and the progress they made was lost when everyone woke up. If this is true, I’m guessing the meta-reason for doing this would be so that SN could do whatever it wanted with the plot and still have it be an enjoyable experience.

But remember, it's all just a theory, a game theory

I’d like to stress again that this is still only a theory and that not every piece of evidence holds up. However, it’s something I’ve been throwing around in my head, and receiving my copy of the book and going through it brought it back to the forefront of my mind.

It’s also pretty clear that considering the book retconned other previously-stated facts, perhaps this is just yet another mistake, and they aren’t that familiar with Shining Nikki after all beyond how LN is meant to end. Or perhaps they decided on purpose to only join the two stories with LN at the end and SN at the beginning, and beyond that each story was free to include its own lore without having to confirm each individual detail with the other, which sounds like it might make logistical sense. I don’t know the full story regarding who writes what, to be honest, so this is just me throwing things at the wall and hoping they stick.

Finally, as pretty much all of this information I just wrote about was never officially translated to English, I’d like to thank the amazing translators of this fandom who have provided us with so much valuable information from both Love Nikki and Shining Nikki. Being able to read the text as translated by someone who understands the story is incredibly valuable. The things I wrote about are not based on Google Translate in case that is a concern. But I’m liable to mistakes like any other human, so let me know if I misspoke.

#love nikki #love nikki lore

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mid0nz-archive · 4 years ago

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The Cannibal & the Consulting Criminal: How Silence and Sherlock Taught Me to Read

(I’m writing a series of autobiographical essays. This meta is a messy. messy warm up…)

PART I: TSotL The Odd Flash of Contextual Intelligence

Know your intertexts (and the limits of their influence)

I’ve spent a LOT of time writing about the influence of Harris on Mark Gatiss in particular. We have Harris to thank for Sherlock’s mind palace for starters. Moriarty and Dr. Lecter share many traits. Then again so do the psychiatrist and Sherlock. I’ll come back to these obvious connections between Sherlock and TSotL in a later part of this meta. (The connections are actually quite superficial.) For now I want to return to my first obsession: the genius cannibal who taught me how to read and the fandom that saved me from him.

Do your research.

Thomas Harris, author of The Silence of the Lambs, choses every word with great care. How many people, for example, do you know called Hannibal? Clarice is more common I suppose, but it’s certainly not a run-of-the-mill monicker. While starlings are the most common of birds have you ever met someone with that surname? Have you ever met a Lecter? What if I told you there is an extremely obscure historical figure called Hannibal the Starling? (You’ll find the reference in Smith’s Dictionary of Greek and Roman Biography and Mythology if you seek.) Would you think that Harris must have heard of that man? Possibly. Possibly. If I told you that Harris makes most of his characters’ names up– that they sound plausible enough, but unless you’re an everyman like a Jack Crawford or a Will Graham you’re a Francis Dolarhyde or an Ardelia Mapp.

Ardelia Mapp? In the novel Ardelia is Clarice Starling’s roommate at the FBI academy. When exams roll around and Clarice has been too busy hunting Buffalo Bill to read her textbooks, it’s Ardelia who makes sure that Clarice knows all about search and seizures. Adelia Mapp. Ardeila Mapp. What kind of name is that? It helps if we cram along with Clarice:

Mapp v. Ohio, 367 U.S. 643 (1961), was a landmark case in criminal procedure, in which the United States Supreme Court decided that evidence obtained in violation of the Fourth Amendment, which protects against “unreasonable searches and seizures”, may not be used in criminal prosecutions in state [or] federal courts. (x)

Hey Thomas Harris!

Recognize when there’s a joke and you’re not getting it.

Thomas Harris amuses himself with language. Clarice comes from the Latin root clar and the words related to pertain to brilliance and light and the illustrative. And Lecter? So many people have tried to trace its origins but all becomes clear when you think about its etymology. In Latin lector means reader.

Clarice’s boss, Jack Crawford, likes to quote impressive sounding things out of context. Dr. Lecter mocks him for picking and choosing passages of the Meditations of the Roman Emperor, Stoic philosopher, and persecutor of Christians, Marcus Aurelius.

“I’ve read the cases, Clarice, have you? Everything you need to know to find him is right there [in the case files], if you’re paying attention. Even Inspector Emeritus, Crawford should have figured it out. Incidentally, did you read Crawford’s stupefying speech last year to the National Police academy? Spouting Marcus Aurelius on duty and honor and fortitude— we’ll see what kind of a Stoic Crawford is when Bella [his wife] bites the big one. He copies his philosophy out of Bartlett’s Familiar, I think. If he understood Marcus Aurelius, he might solve this case.” “Tell me how.” “When you show the odd flash of contextual intelligence, I forget your generation can’t read, Clarice. The Emperor councils simplicity. First principles. Of each particular thing, ask: What is it in itself, in its own constitution? What is its causal nature?” “That doesn’t mean anything to me.” “What does he do, the man you want?”

I could go on and on about how Harris allows Dr. Lecter to reference Stoicism and all kinds of other ideas for his own amusement. I say amusement because the reader need not understand Dr. Lecter’s jokes to enjoy Harris’ books. Clarice doesn’t and she doesn’t pretend to. Oh how Dr. Lecter fancies his student! I could go on and on because the entire fucking book is a compendium of in-jokes. That in itself is Stoic food for thought. Diogenes Laertius recounts a Stoic idea that Harris likes to chew on.

“Some appearances are expert (technikai), others are inexpert; at any rate a picture is observed differently by an expert and the inexpert person.”

Julia Annas explains:

A non-expert will just see figures; the expert will see figures that represent gods. The expert is right— there really is that significance- and the non-expert is missing something. What is more surprising to us is the claim that the appearance is itself “expert.” The expert is not seeing anything that is not there for the ignoramus to see. It is the fault of the ignoramus that he fails to see what is to be seen, because he fails to understand the content of what is presents to him. (82) - Hellenistic Philosophy of Mind by Julia Annas

Lecter, the consummate reader, is the expert. Clarice, who’s not more than one generation from the mines, is the ignoramus. Yet she shows the odd flash of contextual intelligence.

Discern clues from NOISE.

Though their relationship was weird, close, and lasting Clarice would never realize that Dr. Lecter gave her everything she needed to know to catch Buffalo Bill the first time they met!

On that fateful day, with instructions from Jack Crawford to note anything and everything she sees, Clarice shows enough intelligence to asks Dr. Lecter about the drawings in his cell. Dr. Lecter replies:

It’s Florence. That’s the Palazzo Vecchio and the Duomo, seen from the Belvedere. Do you know Florence?“

If Clarice were prepared "to read” Dr. Lecter’s work, she might have understood the significance of the image. She’s the very model of the Stoic ignoramus.

Clarice finds Buffalo Bill/Jame Gumb by recognizing his personal acquaintance with the first victim he skinned, Fredrica Bimmel. They both lived in Belvedere, Ohio where Clarice finds Gumb while Crawford’s teams go all SWAT on John Grant’s last known address. We find out later in the novel that Dr. Lecter knew Gumb lived in Belvedere, Ohio. Perhaps he was musing on the facts of the case while composing his sketches.

Jack Crawford, of all people, should have noticed the name “Belvedere” and made the connection. His dying wife’s name is Phyllis but he’s called her Bella for most of their entire relationship. Phyllis and Jack were both stationed in Italy and during one of their outings, a man called Phyllis “Bella,” or beauty. Bella is the feminine form; “bel” is the masculine form, as in bel vedere, or beautiful view. We learn later that Clarice has to work hard to trick herself into seeing any beauty in Belvedere, Ohio.

Now you’ve got the facts. Theorize with them.

There is another explanation as to why Crawford might have missed the clue in Dr. Lecter’s drawing from Clarice’s notes. Clarice does not know Italian. How would she have written the sketch’s title in her report? Dr. Lecter does not say, when she asks about the sketch, that is is the Old Plaza and the Dome seen from the Belvedere (pronounced in English, be-vuh-deer as in Belvedere, Ohio). Dr. Lecter says all the proper names in Italian except “Florence.” Florence is the English name for the city Italians call Firenze. Clarice’s ear would catch “Florence” and it may be that her report stated that the sketch was of Florence, but no further details. She doesn’t, after all, ask Dr. Lecter how to spell the names of the places with which she is unfamiliar. Crawford, reading a reasonably detailed report from Clarice, might have only noted that Dr. Lecter was sketching Florence– enough detail for a report if you don’t know what you’re looking at. Clarice, while an ignoramus in the Stoic sense, shows potential. Dr. Lecter is polite when he surmises that she is “innocent of the Gospel of St. John.” He calls her innocent, not ignorant. She’s simply not an expert in iconography. She sees all she can see in the image. Crawford, however, is experienced enough with Dr. Lecter to know how important images are to him. Will Graham captured Dr. Lecter in Red Dragon by recognizing that one of his victims was posed in a tableau of a Wound Man in one of Dr. Lecter’s books. Graham was an expert. We can’t be sure from simply reading the text that Dr. Lecter isn’t making the epiphany of “Belvedere” especially difficult to decode even if Clarice were to have written a verbatim transcript of their discussion. In speech Dr. Lecter may be pronouncing the proper names as an American would, or, alternately, with an Italian accent. He could be pronouncing the incidental proper names (Palazzo Vecchio and the Duomo) in an Italian accent and “Belvedere” in an American accent to dare Clarice and Jack to take notice. Or, he could be pronouncing all the names in an Italian accent, a fact could be lost in translation between Clarice, innocent of Italian, and Crawford, who knows just enough to have had an epiphany. Each scenario is possible and each reveals a slightly different interpretation of Dr. Lecter’s motives. If we take Thomas Harris himself as the final authority, in the audiobook Harris reads Dr. Lecter’s part. Harris says all proper nouns including “Belvedere” with an Italian accent (albeit with a Mississippi drawl.)

Yeah ok SO WHAT?! And what about Sherlock?!

In Part II I’ll talk about TSotL as an intertext to Sherlock and the limits of this influence. I’ll compare Dr. Lecter’s method of reading to James Moriarty’s. I’ll talk about why & how I crawled out of the cannibal’s skull and into the consulting criminal’s and where I am going next… Or I just might try to revamp this to make more sense. I dunno…

#Repost of an old meta I deleted but need for a new project.#The Silence of the Lambs

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myweightlosstodaycom · 5 years ago

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“In My Kitchen represents wonderful simplicity and refinement. Madison achieves a state of culinary bliss with an offhand expertise. . . This level of restraint and confidence is what one hopes for but rarely finds in our foodie superheroes.” —Christopher Kimball, MILK STREET KITCHEN

About the Author

DEBORAH MADISON is revered for bringing vegetarian cooking to a wide audience, including non-vegetarians, and is a bestselling author, with book sales of more than 1.2 million copies. She is the award-winning author of 13 cookbooks, including New Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone and Vegetable Literacy. Deborah is well known for her simple, seasonal, vegetable-based cooking. She got her start in the San Francisco Bay Area at Chez Panisse before opening Greens. In 1994, Madison received the M.F.K. Fisher Mid-Career Award from Les Dames d’Escoffier and in 2016 she was inducted into the James Beard Foundation Cookbook Hall of Fame.

INTRODUCTION

I started cooking for others decades ago. I cooked at the San Francisco Zen Center, Tassajara Zen Mountain Center (and resort, come summer), Green Gulch Farm, Chez Panisse in Berkeley, Greens in San Francisco, Café Escalera in Santa Fe, and the American Academy in Rome. I began cooking when vegetarian food was weird—sincere, but stodgy—and when there were few resources available to help one learn about how to put vegetables in the center of the plate. Now I am cooking at a time when vegetarian food is part of a great mash-up of taste, values, and experiences. It is finally much more accepted and really not such a big deal. One doesn’t have to defend one’s position nearly as often or as fiercely as one used to; and in any case, one’s position can be quite fluid—vegetarian one day, omnivore the next.

So much has changed in these decades, from values to ingredients, that it’s sometimes hard for me to tell what people value when it comes to their own cooking. I look at a magazine that one week rates snacks at Trader Joe’s and a few weeks later tells about the wonderful pastries you can make with brioche dough—a challenging dough to make—or how to butcher a lamb—something that’s not easily within the reach or desire of most people. My guess is that one’s cooking life can be very fluid, too, that many people go to the effort to make something by hand��to cook—and probably the same people do plenty of assembling from premade foods. There may be lots of people who make their own pizzas—I know one man who has made that his expertise—but pizza places have also gotten much better (not the chains, but small independent businesses) that perhaps it’s not as compelling to make your own as it was when there were no alternatives and we were curious. Fresh pasta used to be so important to make at home; now many of us can buy good fresh pasta, and there are some really excellent dried pastas now available, too. Other prepared foods, from salsas to fermented foods, tortillas to breads, have also gotten better, so why not use them? Good food matters and so does being able to make it ourselves. But when my cooking is helped by some of the products that are now available—foods that are often made by people who care passionately about their craft—I’m happy to support their efforts just as their products support mine.

I cook every day, but when I recently looked at my notes, I realized that I hadn’t made pasta by hand for some time, or pizza. I decided to revisit both, and it’s been a pleasure, but it’s also helped me realize that I prefer much simpler foods and preparations than I used to. We change as our culture changes, and I found I have been cooking in a more straightforward, less complicated fashion—one that is, for the most part, no less delicious. Fresh pastas, yeasted dough, pies and tarts both savory and sweet, or an involved dish that proudly takes the center of the plate—these still have their place. But some can be radically simplified without loss of flavor; or lightened, perhaps through the choice of one grain over another; or recast in light of the ingredients we have today that we didn’t necessarily have in the past—coconut oil, berbere, freekeh, chia seeds, smoked paprika, truffle salt, real balsamic vinegar, and heirloom beans, to name but a few.

If you garden, even a little, there’s a host of interesting plants to grow and cook with, and some of those that come up by the zillions in springtime can be a source of exotic greens and garnishes. I’ve also started to make use of some of the wild plants that are good to eat and are growing in my yard, and that has added to my kitchen vocabulary. Musk mustard in an herb, and wild green salad is a treat.

ARTICHOKE AND SCALLION SAUTÉ OVER GARLIC-RUBBED TOAST Serves 4; V When I was spokesperson for the California Artichoke Board, boxes upon boxes of artichokes would arrive on my porch. I’d hear them land with a thud, heaved there by the UPS driver. Of course it was a thrill to be the recipient of so many of these glorious, large flower-vegetables, but where to put them? They went into big coolers with plenty of ice. Then I got busy developing recipes, many of which have ended up in my various books. This little sauté, which I cooked frequently on TV, is one, and it has stood up as a favorite. Happily, it can also incorporate asparagus if you wish to add some (briefly parboiled), making for a more complex seasonal spring stew. Use large artichokes if you like, or the babies I’ve used here. Because they grow low down on the large branches where they get little light, the so-called babies never develop a choke, or much size. They’re very easy to work with, which I appreciate a lot.

Spoon these artichokes over garlic-rubbed toast and you have a good vegan supper sandwich. Sometimes I add a smear of chèvre flavored with pepper and a bit of orange zest. You can also serve this sauté over pasta, polenta, or another grain, either alongside another dish or by itself. 20 to 24 baby artichokes Juice of 2 lemons Sea salt 1 tablespoon mild vinegar 2 cloves garlic 2 heaping tablespoons of parsley Zest from 1 large lemon 1 heaping tablespoon tarragon leaves 2 tablespoons olive oil, for cooking 1 bunch scallions, including an inch of the greens, thickly sliced 1⁄2 cup dry white wine 4 slices of strong country bread for toasting Best olive oil, for the toast Freshly ground pepper Chives and chive blossoms, if available

Trim the top third off the artichoke leaves and discard them. As you work, put the trimmed artichokes in a bowl with the lemon juice and enough water to cover. When all are trimmed, drain them, and then simmer them in salted water to which you’ve added the vinegar (or use more lemon juice) until tender-firm, about 10 minutes. Drain the artichokes and slice them lengthwise into halves or quarters.

Finely chop one of the garlic cloves with the parsley, lemon zest, and tarragon, and set aside.

Heat the oil in a large skillet over high heat. Add the artichokes and sauté until they begin to color in places, after several minutes. Add the scallions and wine. When the wine boils off, add 1 cup of water and half the herb mixture. Lower the heat and simmer until the artichokes are fully tender, between 5 to 10 minutes.

Meanwhile, toast the bread. Cut the other garlic clove in half and rub it over the toast. When the artichokes are done, add the remainder of the herb mixture and season with salt and pepper. Tip them, with their juices, over the toast or onto a serving plate and garnish with snipped chives and chive blossoms if you have them.

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In My Kitchen: A Collection of New and Favorite Vegetarian Recipes [A Cookbook] Hardcover – March 28, 2017 Review “Deborah Madison refers to her cooking style as getting simpler and her tastes getting lighter. But it takes the particular ‘simple and light’ wisdom of Deborah Madison and her deep understanding of the beauty of the vegetable to know that this is a world that can sing for itself.

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Thinking about the setting of CFC again, and I know I said on my first post after reading the book that Meatbun should have just gone urban fantasy to get her kick with the more out there elements more plausibly, the scifi plot elements were the weakest on the book but...

You can tell she really wanted to go full on scifi, bc thinking about it, I think going full on 100-200 years on the future with he technology (no aliens or space travel super avaible except for like, maybe the moon or Mars) would have really aided both what she wanted to explore re:technology and the ways we use and abuse it, and her commentary on arts and fictional worlds.

Plus the pseudo superpowered He Yu and Xie Qingcheng and their resulting mental illness and infection by RN-13 would have fit better; maybe even targeting the way humanity has started to openly play with modifying genes and neuroplasticity.

Mandela as an ideology widespread and having to fight it. Making the matrix plan much more scary and plausible.

Like. The distopian sci-fi film noir of it all would have fit like a glove to what she's trying to do in the novel, and to her protags.

Come on, distopian scifi serves to amplify the worst and the best the same way historical fantasy does, and Meatbun loves to go to extremes from what we've read of her.

He Yu being raised by robot nannies that he loves until he realises/is explained they're just unfeeling programs and getting a bit of that real human connection with Xie Qingcheng? Poor wire monkey kid.

Realising "nobody" "real" cares for him would hit weirder here, if not harder. Getting a complex about having to program his own behaviour if he wants to fit and be loved by others! Pushing himself to master coding (he's a hacker in canon! Tie that even tighter to setting and plot and his emotional journey dammit), almost falling but then ruthlessly dismissing the false fantasies created by technology! In the way he does by the end of the book but hitting harder in this setting bc that unreality it's an element that's been there from the beginning.

He Yu having to deal with his hallucinations when he's on his lower moments in this version would also be even more also even more oomph, given people giving in to the technological ghosts would be something he's used to seeing. And then realising his own brain is creating that trap when he thought he was above deluding himself. Like he does in canon but you know. Tying it with the plot and setting better, which makes it hit harder.

You also just know the elite He Yu is born feom are on some hunger games almost capitol bullshit. HY deciding to study cinematography and arts in this kind of culture. Meatbun ripping apart the abuse of AI, tying in with her criticism of the lower common denominator re:fluffy simple stories.

Compare that to a Xie Chengqing even more determined that science has everything studied about human behaviour and emotions are just silly hormones that can robe one of control. At the same time rejecting the frivolous use of technology; finding unsuspecting common ground with He Yu despite it all. Mmm. His brand of condescending old fashioned machismo and general internalised homophobia (and He Yu's if we're talking about it) (although in He Yu case it could just be denial of XQC in specific though which would be hilarous/sad considering. all of the story) would be maybe more difficult to translate but honestly humanity is such a shit show that I would buy we having regressed and then progressed again on the human rights front. Anyway it's more about his unhealthy repression, controlling tendencies, and trying to be good at being human by societal standards, for his sister and master/prpfessor/adopted father. That can be explored perfectly on this setting regardless.

Maybe it's the aftermath of a conflict and that's why people are so crazy about Mandela! Collective trauma around incomprehensible loss. Human nature at his most basic need for love and companionship vs survival, like Meatbun likes.

The more I think about this the more I like it. Mmm. Did censure prevent Meatbun of going all out with the scifi? Because it really really fits.

#bing an ben #case file compendium #cfc meta #meta #he yu #xie chengqing #my thoughts #hexie #give me hexie or give me death #XQC smoking old fashioned cigarettes hitting harder when vapers or other forms of benevolent drugging and killing oneself are in fashion #choosing the honesty of the slow self destruction inherited from the old man who saved and gave purpose to his life before dying #the deliberatedness of it in that unconscious way of xqg #where he knows exactly what he's doing without thinking about what he's doing #he yu trying to programmed a false XQC at the heights of his most unhinged obssesed moments and destruying it all in fury bc #it not the same #the warmth of that skin the cold on his eyes the rare unguarded fletting moments of fondness #human actors being compared to holograms #He Yu being his most messy authentic self full on an emotional mess contested even more sharply against this superficial technological WORLD #pulling Xie Qingcheng to that same raw honesty bit by bit hurt by hurt and kindness by kindness #as painstakingly as in canon for both of them #GAH

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Thanks for asking though. zzuuzz (talk) 08:34, 31 March 2006 (UTC) Thanks for asking, but definitely that's not appropriate for this article. Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 20:53, 1 April 2006 (UTC) For clarification, I've never sold my web services for $100/hr. and don't intend to I just put that up there to impress upon my readers that my time is valuable, because otherwise I get flooded with questions from people who think I'm a free helpdesk. Also, I promoted my other sites within my articles *long before* I put up any Adsense. You have to put something in a sidebar, otherwise the page is too wide and the line lengths are too long, or you have a ton of whitespace. So I've promoted my other sites/articles, since I like it when people read the things I've taken the effort to create. I definitely haven't received much value in return for the week I spent writing the SEO article, and trying to make money is not why I wrote it. I do think it's the best, most comprehensive free resource on SEO available on the net, and certainly extremely relevant to the article as well as high quality, but I understand how link-phobic people are here. Incidentally, whether a site contains any advertising, direct or indirect, is a silly way to judge its value. The New York Times contains advertising. (The horrors!) -MichaelBluejay 14:57, 2 April 2006 (UTC) Please understand that this page is subject to constant linkspamming. I am sure your article on SEO ranks well in Google, so people can easily find it. Rather than linking to your own article, please work on improving this one. Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 04:20, 4 April 2006 (UTC) Indeed, I have worked on the article. And yes, my site ranks well, which is beside the point, because my motivation isn't trying to increase traffic to my site, it's trying to provide an incredibly relevant and useful resource. The article is *less* useful if readers are deprived of useful external resources. My own resource need not be among them (though admittedly, I don't know of another free, quality article that's as comprehensive), but certainly we should include *some* useful links besides the SE's themselves. Censoring what's truly useful doesn't serve the readers. Yes, spamlinks are a problem. But just because some people add crappy sites doesn't mean we should censor the ones that *are* useful. -MichaelBluejay 08:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia is a compendium of knowledge assembled from different sources. Wikipedia is not a directory. If a source has useful information, that knowledge should be included in the article, and a reference made to the source. The citation should be to an authoritative source, such as an established publication, not somebody or some expert's web site. The source should have an editor, be peer reviewed or somehow be very official, especially in the case of this article. Citing one's own website or a friend's website is not acceptable. This article is deficient because it lacks sources. It contains a lot of speculation. We need to find reliable sources and cite them. Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 03:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC) This section contained some bullet points about how to build a high-quality site, partly redundant with the content above, and partly speculation and myth. I've chopped that material. Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 21:00, 1 April 2006 (UTC) The terms ""ethical"" and ""unethical"" are obviously *incredibly* POV. I changed them to white hat and black hat. -MichaelBluejay 21:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC) Can we agree on a standard spelling of website/web site? I'm not suggesting that we set the standard for the whole world, but the spelling should probably be consistent within a single article. I vote for website because that's the title of the Wikipedia article (web site is a redirect) and because I like it better. Anyone else have an opinion? JordeeBec 15:06, 14 April 2006 (UTC) I agree that we should standardize, and that that standard should be ""website"". -MichaelBluejay 02:55, 23 April 2006 (UTC) Okay, another issue. Since when is search engine hypenated? JordeeBec 18:15, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks! JordeeBec 18:12, 8 May 2006 (UTC) Search engine isn't hypenated, and web site is two words. ;)Bill Slawski 18:08, 8 May 2006 (UTC) I was being sarcastic. Someone hyphenated SE throughout the article. The ""thanks"" was meant for the person who took out the hyphens. Google gets 6.95 billion results for website and 5.19 billion for ""web site"" (for which they suggest the spelling ""website""). But we all know how accurate those numbers are. Perhaps more importantly in a Wikipedia article, and as I stated in my original post, the title of the Wikipedia article is one word. If we're going by the AP style guide (and why would we?) it's Web site (capitalized). If it's going to be debated, I think the Website Talk page would be the forum (and it's been done there, of course). I was about ready to change it. Anyone else want to vote? If you want my credentials, I've been an avid Internet user for more than a decade, I work for an SEO company and I have heard of SMA-NA (and other SMAs--EU, UK) as well as SEMPO. JordeeBec 22:11, 18 May 2006 (UTC) Sarcasm doesn't translate well on the internet, does it? Even a smilie at the end of my sentence there wasn't enough to indicate that my statement was being sarcastic. As you probably know, Google's spell checker isn't based upon a correct spelling of words, but rather the consensus of usage it finds on the web. Bill Slawski 02:06, 19 May 2006 (UTC) I was the one who took out the hyphens. Bill Slawski 02:22, 19 May 2006 (UTC) Thank YOU, then. I kept meaning to check. I didn't mean to jump all over you, sorry. I misinterpreted your smiley. I do still prefer website myself, but I think that the website article is really the biggest argument in favor of that spelling. Does anyone else even care about this? JordeeBec 03:24, 19 May 2006 (UTC) There's a list of methods approved by the search engines. As far as I know, SE's don't approve of anything. Webmasters have learned through experience what works in the long run, and what eventually fails. Here's the big problem - no sources are cited. Who are we going to cite? Right now the article is rife with speculation because so much isn't supported by citations. The main deficiency of this article is that we have not cited any authorities besides the search engines, so we have a one-sided, inaccurate article. I'd like to nominate a short list of recognized SEO sources: Does anybody want to nominate others? Can we form a consensus as to whether these are linkspam or not? Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 02:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC) I agree that these are the there most well-known and most useful resources. It would be silly to consider them link-spam. -MichaelBluejay 04:10, 24 April 2006 (UTC) So the thought is that having only the engines as external sources is creating an incomplete or biased article full of speculation. But we only want to cite sources that you consider to be ""white hat"" in nature? Will that make the article much more useful? If we want this article to be realistic we should either drop the pigeonholing of information (allowing sources to be sourced based on quality of information rather than how one person perceives how the source complies with search engine terms of service) or use something other than marketing buzz words to define the separation we chose to make when sourcing. Frankly I often learn more from spam than from beginner SEO tips. Aaron Wall 21:10, 2 May 2006 (UTC) I agree that our criterion for whether a link is added is whether it adds value to the article. That could be white hat or black hat, advertising or no advertising, popular or not. I don't want to see this article become a link farm either, but surely we can point readers to quality sources of more in-depth information (which is supposed to be the whole point of an External Links section anyway). -MichaelBluejay 02:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC) Nobody should object to a source if it is a ""published"" work. We should attempt to cite the most authoritative source for each assertion presented as fact. Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 23:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC) An anonymous editor has come through and added some good references to make this article higher quality. I've removed two of them because the links didn't seem to work properly. Nice effort. Take another look and try again! Jehochman (Talk/Contrib) 15:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC) They worked fine when I added them. I spent 20 seconds and found an alternative source that may be more stable - from the Stanford database pages. Thanks. Bill Slawski 18:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC) Please kindly send me your review whether the link I am providing will be pertinent or not. [Bravenet link removed] Not even close. Removed this spam. -MichaelBluejay 20:35, 18 May 2006 (UTC) A huge part about this topic was left out. I added the most important resources that were missing. Additional resources can be found at the listed resources. A ban of it would be in conflict with WP:NPOV which also applies to this topic (as far as I know). If you have valid arguments, let hear them. Please post at my Talk Page. --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 01:05, 14 May 2006 (UTC) Note regarding the older comment from 1. February 2006 by Perfecto as response to Danny Sullivan's Statement: ""You absolutely should be linking to sources of knowledge beyond the major search engines."". Perfecto wrote: ""I disagree, because, since Wikipedia may someday see print or DVD publication, we want more content, not more links"". The situation in SEO and SEM is changing constantly. A place like Wikipedia is not designed to address that issue. The Volume of information produced is huge and you can't simply ignore those information. Historic information are important in this Industry. Wikipedias job is to explain in a general way what SEO is. When it comes to Hard Facts valid TODAY, Wikipedia has no choice, but link to the site specialized in this. Have a look at this Post from Matt Cutts/Google regarding an AdWords book published less than 1 year ago. AdWords which is SEM is not nearly as fast and dramatically changing as Search Engine Algorithms which change in turn SEO. --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 01:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC) Cumbrowski, I absolutely agree with you that important external resources should be listed, and I'm no longer going to accept the position of those who want to keep it out of the article. I reverted when someone removed your edits, and I'll continue to do so. I do think that we should still be careful about what we link to. WebmasterWorld, yes. SEO Rockstar Radio -- um, probably not. -MichaelBluejay 09:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC) Michael. I think we are on the same page. I added the top resources per ""type"" of resource. Blogs: Matt Cutts from Google, Forums: Webmaster World, Alerts: ThreadWatch, Resources and News: SearchEngineWatch, Expos: SearchEngineStrategies and new Media, Radio/Podcast: SEO Rockstars. I could have added the Daily Search Cast, but I did so already indirectly because you can get it at Webmasterradio.FM or Search Engine Watch. A Print Magazine Resource is missing, but there is none as far as I know, like Revenue Magazine for Affiliate Marketing. I believe SEO Rockstars is a good start for a lot of Web Masters that are Newbies. It's way easier to digest than the huge amount of content which can be found at the other resources it also points out, that there is actually a radio station for Webmasters with shows covering SEO and of course every other important topic of interest for a Website owner. You are right, that you could argue about the link. I would have kept it for the reasons I mentioned, but If others disagree, fine, leave it out. --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 16:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC) I invited Tregoweth and Jehochman to join. I hope that other Wikipedians that have the Article on their Watchlist will join too. It is a popular and also controversial article which is a prime target for spammers. Because of that is it most important that everybody who has an interest in the quality of the content here at Wikipedia should be part of the decision about what to keep and what not. For the sake of WP:NPOV is it necessary to add resources for WebMasters other than the one provided by Search Engines. There is no other way around that --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 17:02, 14 May 2006 (UTC) Alternative Link. I prefer to link to the resources directly, but propose in case that no consensus can be reached to link at least to the Yahoo Directory Category: Search Engine Optimization (SEO)--roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 17:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC) The References Section was a mess. It did not match the references used in the Article at all. I cleaned up the mess. I did the following: I added the missing ones and removed the links that are not a reference from the reference section and added them under the new section: Additional Research Resources and last but not leat put the references in the right order that [X] in the article matches the X Reference Listed in the reference section --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 19:45, 14 May 2006 (UTC) Jcsquardo, regarding the note you left on my talk page, please discuss the article on the article's talk page, not on my personal talk page. As for the internal wikilink to SEMPO, it's fine, I don't know why you'd think I wouldn't feel that way. Maybe you're saying I removed it long ago, but if so it was a mistake and I don't remember that, you didn't provide any link to any such edit, and I'm not going to plow through the Edit history to try to find it. -MichaelBluejay 20:07, 15 May 2006 (UTC) I'm not sure that I agree with the inclusion of a link to SEMPO, especially with the statement in the edit that it is SEO's governing body. It isn't the governing body for SEO. It's just one of a larger number of nonprofits that is attempting to be an industry organization for people who perform SEO. By presenting it in the manner that it is, it makes it look like something that it is not, especially with the shell of a page on wikipedia that discusses it. Perhaps I would feel more comfortable if someone fleshed out the SEMPO page first, before adding the link. Or created pages to the other organizations like SEMPO that also don't have many members at this point in time. Bill Slawski 22:11, 15 May 2006 (UTC) It's not this article's fault if another article isn't fleshed out. Linking to stubs is a primary way to let the community know of articles that need to be expanded. SEMPO is not listed as the governing body, or any governing body, it's just listed with its name. Others can certainly suggest other professional SEO organizations to list, I don't know of any off the top of my head myself. I see no valid reason to not have an interlink to SEMPO. I'm adding it back. -MichaelBluejay 14:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC) Not a Problem. I'll create stubs for some of the other organizations that represent a few hundred SEOs like SEMPO and provide links to those. :) The fact that you don't know of any of the others makes me seriously question your editing of this topic. But if listing these other organizations will improve this article, that's what I wiil do.Bill Slawski 22:33, 16 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks for questioning my competence. The fact is that you can be knowledgeable about a topic without joining a professional organization devoted to it. I have enough to keep me busy without joining some other organization. -MichaelBluejay 09:00, 17 May 2006 (UTC) These professional organizations appear in forums, blogs, and other sources of news about SEO on a regular basis. You don't have to be a member to be aware of them. I was very surprised that you stated that you weren't aware of any other than SEMPO. These are groups that are doing things like attempting to set up certification programs for SEOs, or speaking to the press and other organizations as if they were the ""governing body"" of the industry.Bill Slawski 15:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC) I see the stubs have been put into ""See also"". It might be better to make a section explaining the profusion of industry bodies and linking to the articles from that. If we get more articles on these organizations, it would start to clog up the see also section. --GraemeL (talk) 22:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC) That's a very good point. It would probably be a nice addition to the article to do that, too. Bill Slawski 15:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC) The industry organizations that have been linked to here are under threat of being deleted as non notable organizations. I see that the wikipedia article on SEMPO has been whittled away to almost nothing by editors, where at one point it was of decent length. Bill Slawski 05:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC) Hi Bill. Regarding: ""The industry organizations that have been linked to here are under threat of being deleted as non notable organizations"". Please have a look at my comments from May 14. on this Talk Page and also the discussions that were started after this one. The statement ""non notable organizations"" when referring to the currently listed resources is actually very funny and I won't comment on that. Regarding SEMPO, SEMPO is listed as Resource for the Search engine marketing Article which I believe is much more appropriate. SEO Firms make up a percentage of SEMPO, but the Organization is primarily for SEM Professionals, not SEO Professionals. SEO and SEM are two very distinct things which each require a very unique set of skills. The Focus of SEMP on SEM is also made clear on the Organizations ""About Us"" Page. Quote: ""Our membership is primarily SEM firms and consultants, inhouse marketing professionals, Web developers, and advertising agencies."". --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 14:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks for your thoughts, Roy. I don't think that there is that large of a divide or difference between SEM and SEO firms. SEO is a subset of SEM, and many SEM firms engage in SEO. Many SEO practitioners offer SEM services. The people who formed SEMPO did so in an effort to include SEO firms and practitioners, as well as search engine marketers. I know people who were on the working committees during the formation of the organization, and initial board members, as well as existing board members. Many of those folks offer both SEO and SEM services. If you were to go through the list of members of SEMPO, one at a time, I think that you would see a very large percentage of those companies offer SEO services. The SEMPO services page, lists two types of services for people who might want to see what is available services-wise from SEMPO members - SEO and PPC. SEMPO grew out of the SEO/SEM communities and meetings held at Search Engine Strategies Conferences, and wasn't intended to be an industry group for one at the exclusion of the others. Some of the webinars offered on their site recognize this: ""SEO for CEOs,"" ""Search Engine Marketing: It's Not Just Paid Search! (parts one and two)."" In their site glossary, they define Search Engine Marketing as: ""The act of marketing a web site via search engines, whether this be improving rank in organic listings, purchasing paid listings or a combination of these and other search engine-related activities."" Please feel free to contact them if I haven't convinced you, and ask them if SEMPO was intended to include people who practice SEO. By the way, the name SEMPO wasn't chosen to emphasize SEM over SEO as much as it was selected because the domain name was available. (cite: http://www.cre8asiteforums.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=7143&view=findpost&p=57775 - Note: Webmama is the forum name of the first president of SEMPO, who described many of the aspects of the organization in the thread I provide a link to.) Bill Slawski 17:54, 30 May 2006 (UTC) I agree that Search Engine Marketing incorporated SEO, PPC, Paid Inclusion and all that in the past. Things are changing rapidly and the Usage and meaning of the old definitions are changing. SEM and SEO are now used to describetwo very distinct marketing methods in combination with Search Engines. SEO is used to refer to the technical methods employed to get sites ranked higher in organic search results which are based on algorithms used by SE's. SEM is used to refer to when it comes to PPC Advertising and Paid Inclusion. I know that the SEM Article states something else. SEM is not a technical method at all. That a lot of companies offer both services makes sense like it makes sense for the car dealership to offer repair and maintenance services. You might not agree with that and I don't want to start a discussion about that here. I am sure that you agree to the fact that it is hard enough to get any external resource listed at all. The Link to SEMPO at the SEM Article is the right place if you have to make the choice to either have it at the SEO or the SEM Article. The SEO Article refers to the SEM Article as ""Parent"". This should be sufficient. Don't you think? --roy<sac> Talk! .oOo. 21:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC) I'm not sure that I agree with you, but it's probably moot at this point. With the rollback of most of the contributions I've made to this article, and the removal of those links, it's a point that appears to not need to be discussed anymore, and likely so is my participation here. I have plenty of SEO and SEM things to occupy my time. Good luck. Bill Slawski 02:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

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From Wood to Gold: Alchemy in CFC 178

As requested by @/fallingasaleaf on twitter. :D

So, in CFC 178, there’s an example of literal alchemy. As I’ve said before, alchemy is about, on a physical level, creating the philosopher’s stone (often represented as a red or purple stone). The philosopher’s stone has two main functions: creating the elixir of life (eternal life), and turning base metals into gold. In CFC 178, we see an example of that literally occur... with some extra interesting symbolism that drips thematic implication for the story.

On a basic level, we can see the symbolism--the wooden cross literally transforms to gold with rubies (philosopher’s stone). But what transforms it?

Well, on a physical level, the girl’s blood and tears. This is a sobering story, because it asks whether the price is worth the gift--is the blessing of wealth really worth the blood and tears of an innocent?

The innocence here is also a symbol. The girl is an outcast from society (like He Yu) because of being a different race and religion, and is horribly treated: because she is sassy, a creditor forces her to eat hot coals, which kills her and also renders her barely able to speak, presumably. In alchemy, coal is a traditional symbol of the first (black) stage, tears for the second (white) stage, and blood for the final (red) stage.

Cross

Back to the girl. What seems odd about this cross and stone is that if this were truly intended to be a philosopher’s stone, it’s quite odd that it has “RIP” on it. Doesn’t really square with the concept of an elixir of life very well, does it?

As is to clue us in that something isn’t right, Xie Xue offers her own thoughts here, which we see is somewhat backed up by evidence in the family tree:

Whether true or not, the point is rather the same: instead of being interested in an elixir of life, which brings about healing and rejuvenates the entire world with it (one of the key parts of alchemy is that it’s supposed to multiply, aka spread around the entire world) because that would require more effort, the family seems more interested in the physical: wealth, elixir insofar as physical life is concerned. Hence, we have a recipe for a nihilixir, and it seems almost certain that the Weis are somehow involved with the organization and thus our resident nihilixir, RN-13.

Adding to this notion is what we know about crosses thus far in CFC. The last cross we saw was the one the Org literally tied Chen Man to, as if instead of focusing on the Christian resurrection symbolism, they are only focusing on the torture/death element.

It’s half the story, half the point, and half the philosopher’s stone--and without that resurrection and hope that spreads around the world (literally why Christianity works as a symbol here), it’s a hopeless, chaotic, miserable story with miserable implications for the future (like a nihilixir would do in inducing chaos) if it end with a simple “RIP” on a cross. This passage also emphasizes Chen Man’s youth, his innocence, and literally replaces the “rubies” in the story with the blood of an innocent.

In alchemy, the cross, as Lyndy Abraham sums it up, “contains within it not only the symbol of the dismemberment or sacrifice of the old body and outmoded state, but also the image of the creation of a new state of unity.” I think that in the Org’s quest to control this new state and ensure it is most beneficial to them, they forgot the second part--because they force others to make the sacrifices rather than making it themselves, and because they don’t want to benefit others. They miss the true elixir in Meatbun’s novels--relationships and love, be it platonic, familial, or romantic.

Blood

Wei Rong’s aversion to the color red also seems to hint that she’s repulsed by the “red” of her family’s actions--wherein instead of cultivating elixirs to give life to the world, they try to keep it to themselves and sacrifice/abuse others to do so. Plus red is a color repeatedly associated with the organization’s women in particular, as @dangermousie noted earlier.

It also seems clear that Wei Rong is somehow related to RN-13 and thereby Xie Qingcheng’s parents’ deaths and He Yu’s birth. The most obvious answer is that she’s He Yu’s biological mother, but I hope not am not sure why He Yu’s dad would pretend to be his father, since unlike the mom he seems to not be involved with the Org; he just seems to be super self-involved; unless. he is Meng Sheng and Wei Rong was his initial wife, but they switched identities and Lu Zhishu switched with her after she died, but again, this seems far-fetched and needlessly complicated. We’ll see. (Can’t deny it looks fairly likely after this chapter.)

All this focus on red makes it clear we're starting to move into the final red/rubedo (yes the word is related to “ruby”) stage of the story, so. RIP to us I guess! Pain on its way.

Plus the kid in the red high heels will likely return as the master boss. I seriously wonder if the whole “eternal youth” factor got emphasized in some of the Org’s experiments and the kid paid the price (aka, he’s not a kid at all, but got trapped in “eternal youth”).

Tears

Well... see... tears are supposed to be related to white in alchemy, and water. And... pregnant women (water is associated with pregnancy, obviously) whose tears are said to be a part of growing the stone.

The Mother unto her Chast Chamber goes... Her weary'd selfe, 'twixt Sheets as white as Snow And there makes Signes of her approaching woe. ...Thus great with Child, 9 months she languished And Bath'd her with the Teares which she had shed For his sweete sake

*sweats and inserts self in front of Xie Xue to protect her* (I don’t think Meatbun is specifically referencing this poem by Ripley, but the imagery of the stone's creation as a pregnancy watered by the tears of a mother draped in white is A Thing in alchemy.)

No, but in reality there are a lot of reasons Xie Xue is important and ways in which she is connected to the original story, and to its alchemical symbolism. Xie Xue’s name literally means snow, and the girl in the story is described as having snow-white wings using the same character as in Xie Xue’s name. The girl is also described as an angel thanks to these wings, but angels aren’t entirely positive in alchemy: wings symbolize volatility.

Anyways, again, pregnancy is a metaphor in alchemy for the gestation/progress of creating the philosopher’s stone. Hence, philosophical child as the concept of a walking philosopher’s stone. Considering some other elements in this story that seem to be callbacks to what happened around the inciting incident of He Yu’s birth and Xie Qingcheng’s parents’ deaths--namely, that the Wei ancestor who started this hell (intentionally or unintentionally) rescued the girl has almost the exact same backstory as Qin Ciyan (whose name literally means stone) and that Xie Qingcheng has always desperately wanted to become Qin Ciyan... I very much think it’s possible Xie Xue will end up in the same situation as He Yu’s mother and need RN-13 to save her life/her child. However, I have hope Xie Qingcheng and He Yu will save her (and/or Wei Dongheng will; I don’t believe he’s himself involved, or at least doesn’t know the extent of what’s going on). It should be an inverse of the story, not a repeat, and there’s lot of potential ways for this to challenge Xie Qingcheng through his desire to be like Qin Ciyan.

Anyways, to end on a funny note, that means Xie Qingcheng has a limited number of chapters left to embody this.

side note mpreg is alchemical, oh god meatbun

(but in all seriousness this pregnant dude is supposed to be Boreas, the Greek god of the North wind and of winter, which not only relates to Snow but is also actually what the “dong” 冬 character in Wei Dongheng’s name means. fun fun fun; anyways I very much think this means the baby will be important and nothing will happen to them but I sweat for the parents).

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