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Rewatched Dead Men Tell No Tales/Salazar's Revenge today and boy, was it a disappointment. Absolute low point of the franchise. Genuinely surprised that the original writers were involved.
On Stranger Tides shows a much softer side of Jack but it's still pretty consistent with the choices he made in the original trilogy, and he has quite a lot of agency in the plot. The film lacks the clever cinematography of the original trilogy but it's still pleasant to watch. The night combat scenes are clearly lit, even if the combat itself isn't as gripping. The plot is weak, but entertaining enough. Not as good as the first three, but not bad.
Dead Men Tell No Tales is just awful. For one thing, it isn't even consistent with the previous films in terms of lore. The trilogy establishes, in DMC, that Jack bartered the compass from Tia Dalma. Here, in a flashback, he gets it from his old captain on the Wicked Wench while fighting Salazar?
Also, there is no damn reason for Will to even be cursed, which is what kicks off the plot. The only reason Davy Jones and crew were fish people was that he neglected his duty of ferrying souls. Will knows this. He knows the cost. He wants to be with Elizabeth every ten years. He would not neglect his duty. There is no inherent turning-into-a-monster curse tied into his role as captain of the Dutchman, and at the end of At World's End we see him returning after ten years, looking perfectly human and normal. Why would he suddenly be cursed after that?
Jack has literally no agency in this film. He achieves nothing and makes no difference to the plot! Henry is the one executing the daring rescue. Carina navigates. Barbossa does the double-crossing and also captains the Pearl. Jack has a fight with Salazar at some point but it's at night, poorly lit, and again achieves very little. Nothing has changed at the end of their fight. None of those clever acrobatics that cripple his pursuers we saw in previous films. The flashback to young Jack was cool, I guess. But his total lack of care when he thinks the Black Pearl has sunk is horrifically out of character.
Again, at the end, he's just sort of... there. He is an object for Salazar to pursue, a distraction while Henry and Carina achieve their objectives and Barbossa redeems himself.
Barbossa has a nice arc, though I think the daughter twist is rushed in order to make us feel sadder when he sacrifices himself. And I quite like Carina. There's clearly been an attempt to place Henry and Carina in the places of Will and Elizabeth, and they've tried to make Carina feisty and driven but in a different direction than Elizabeth, which I appreciate. She and Henry fall for each other very fast, though.
Also, I hate that Elizabeth is apparently dressed nicely and sitting pretty in her beach house, waiting and doing nothing. If she knew that Will was cursed, why would she not be out there doing everything she can to save him? She's the freaking Pirate King. She could not be held back in the trilogy. She's not old, either - she was fairly young when she had Henry, and Henry is clearly old enough to fend for himself now. They could have gone looking for ways to save Will together.
In many ways Dead Men Tell No Tales is just Dead Man's Chest disappointingly remixed - undead crew on a destructive cursed ship with special abilities, led by a captain who can't step on land and has a grudge against Jack Sparrow, controlling horrid sea creatures. A POC witch embodying all sorts of racist caricatures. A Turner seeking a way to free his cursed father, and in love with a feisty girl. Everyone searching for a magical McGuffin that will give them control or mastery of the seas, and they need Jack's compass for it.
It's especially egregiously disappointing after how good the original trilogy was. The plot in those certainly wasn't perfect, but it was tight enough and fast-paced and entertaining enough that you didn't care. The stakes were high, the villains were chilling, and the protagonists were cheekily morally ambiguous in their swashbuckling. The cinematography was stunning. The only real good things about this instalment were the music (which was reused from the previous films) and seeing Will and Elizabeth again.
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So, I rewatch the first one after years bc I was sick by the Johnny Depp bullshit and through his presence would ruin the movie for me, thankfully, it didn't.
- Why don't they make blockbusters like this anymore? The scale of the production, everything feels so real, so damn good. They only used CGI when they needed it.
-Now I noticed that Elizabeth, Will and Jack have "friendship" matching scars, as all the three of them have a long cut on the palm of their hand.
-When Barbossa is about to cut Elizabeth, thinking her blood is the one they needed, instead of cutting her throat (something that was expected of him) he just cut her hand and when even Elizabeth looked confused at him, he says "waste not"
At first I thought that he was being nice, like there's no need to kill her, and this being a Disney movie really makes me think that. But now I get it, he wasn't being nice, he was being a nightmare as he only didn't kill her bc he was planning on SA her as soon as the curse was off. That's dark.
And it's weirdly nice to see how their relationship goes from this nightmare, to Barbossa not only actually respecting and acknowledge Elizabeth as one of them, but also with Elizabeth asking him to marry her with Will. It's like they became buddies at the end, almost lol
-People often praise only Johnny Depp for the success of the trilogy, and yes, he was good I got to admit but he wasn't the sole reason of the movies success. The proof of that is that after Worlds End, the movies went down in quality and will not pretend that the writing and production didn't go down either but the thing is that the characters also were not near as charming, charismatic and just as good as Elizabeth, Will, Barbossa, Davy Jones the crew guys...Jack Sparrow is good but he needs good company to truly shine. And the chemistry they all had towards each other plays a big part in the trilogy success. Jack Sparrow is amazing, but only when he isn't the protagonist.
Edit 1: I've saw the second and third ones again today and damn Hans Zimmer was inspired, the Davy Jones theme is the Best villain theme song (sorry Darth Vader)
At world's end, who also is the Will and Elizabeth theme(with some minor changes) is so good. It's not only good, it's a masterpiece. One of my fav original movie songs ever.
-Elizabeth arc is so well done. From damsel in distress, to pirate, to pirate queen. And it was natural, didn't feel forced at all. Even when she was damsel in distress, she wasn't helpless. In the first movie, after the ship battle, she launched herself at Barbossa , to punch in bc she thought Will was gone. She was always fierce.
And now in the second and third movie when she already knew how to fight...she became a menace.
-And Elizabeth lost her dad, her friend and the love of her life in like, just a few days. Damn. And all of the men she kissed, died lol. Jack, Norrington, Sao Feng and Will, and they all die right after kissing her. I bet she has some sort of "black widow" reputation among the sailors
-Jack really cared for both Elizabeth and Will, and we can see it in the scene when he told Elizabeth that her father was gone and when Davy Jones killed Will. And it makes sense cuz Jack was important in their journey from day one, and he saw their growth from naive young adults to pirates.
-Without a doubt, one of the best trilogies we have.
#Pirates of the Caribbean#Elizabeth Swann#William Turner#Captain Jack Sparrow#Captain Hector Barbossa#Carina Barbossa#Henry Turner#Armando Salazar#Dead Men Tell No Tales#Salazar's Revenge
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I'M SORRY I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT THEM
#sketch#potc#potc fanart#jack sparrow#hector barbossa#captain jack sparrow#captain hector barbossa#sparbossa
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I dug my very first Wacom tablet out of the depths of my drawer, wanting to paint in Photoshop for the very first time in years because I randomly remembered I've got some neat textured brushes. Decided to go with Barb, because why not. 🏴☠️
#painting in something else than procreate after so many months of using it feels *so* refreshing#hector barbossa#hector barbossa potc#captain hector barbossa#hector barbossa fanart#potc#pirates of the caribbean fanart#drawing#illustration#digital art#my art
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A question for pirate fellas
How many of you ship these two dumbasses? Cause I'm into that shit.
#pirates of the caribbean#captain jack sparrow#jack sparrow#hector barbossa#captain hector barbossa#shipping#just curious#tumblr users#be honest#tell me#questions#captain barbossa#barbossa x sparrow#i'm into it#my screenshots#pirates#pirate captain#man x man#gay pirates
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Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World’s End (2007)
#2007#film#movie#Pirates Of The Caribbean#At World's End#Keira Knightley#Elizabeth Swann#Orlando Bloom#Will Turner#Johnny Depp#Jack Sparrow#Jack Davenport#Norrington#Geoffrey Rush#Captain Hector Barbossa#Hector Barbossa#Bill Nighy#Davy Jones#Flintlock Pistol#pirate
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also the whole fight about who the pearl belongs to absolutely pleases me to no end when it is literally jack's. like my guy sold his soul to the tentacle man and you're saying it's yours?? I'd shoot him too
but he's a dedicated soul and we love hector for it xoxo
#pirates of the caribbean#potc#pirates of the caribbean: at worlds end#pirates of the carribean at worlds end#black pearl ship#captain hector barbossa#captain jack sparrow#jack sparrow#hector barbossa
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This gif can literally be heard. How Hector clicks his tongue, sighs and growls irritably
#hector barbossa#captain barbossa#pirates of the caribbean#potc#at world's end#captain hector barbossa#geoffrey rush#pirates of the caribbean at world's end
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How this happened:
//it was funnier in my head//@angelixgutz //
°Salazar being dragged back to trident°
King Triton:"Omg who tf are you?"
Salazar:"Mermaid??"
Barbossa:"MERMAID!! STAY AWAY FROM ME YOU STUPID CREATURE!!!"
Salazar:"Pirates hate mermaids?"
Barbossa:"OF COURSE WE DO!!"
Salazar: 🧍🏻♂️ °poof° 🧜🏼♂️
Barbossa:👁️👄👁️
Salazar:"GIVE ME THAT TRIDENT IM NEW KING TRITON!!"
#captain hector barbossa#captain barbossa#hector barbossa#hector barbossa x reader#armando salazar x reader#armando salazar#salazar x reader#potc salazar x reader#king triton#king triton x reader#the little mermaid#pirates of the caribbean x reader#pirates of the caribbean barbossa#pirates of the caribbean
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In my writing I want to achieve one goal and one goal only: for the amount of polyamorous, gay gay and overall queer vibe to match whatever is going on in the pirates of the Caribbean film series
#pirates#pirates of the caribbean#pirates of the carribean at worlds end#pirates of the carribean the curse of the black pearl#pirates of the carribean: dead men tell no tales#pirates of the carribean: on stranger tides#pirates of the carribean dead man's chest#captain jack sparrow#captain hector barbossa#joshamee gibbs#will turner#elizabeth swann#james norrington#bootstrap bill#davy jones#calypso#tia dalma#pintel & ragetti#the black pearl#lgbtq#gay pirates
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Look, I just HAD to make this when I saw it in my mind, ok?
#potc#pirates of the caribbean#curse of the black pearl#cotbp#hector barbossa#elizabeth swann#potc meme#potc memes#my potc meme#my memes#potc 1#potc cotbp#captain hector barbossa
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rewatching "Pirates of the Caribbean" and damn Jack and Barbossa act like a divorced couple all the time help-
((i love them so much))
#pirates of the caribbean#potc#captain jack sparrow#jack sparrow#captain hector barbossa#hector barbossa#sparbossa
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what's the matter? seeing double?
#finally finished this *cries*#i went lazy on the barnacles i didnt have the energy to draw them all rip#davy jones#hector barbossa#captain hector barbossa#davy jones potc#davy jones fanart#hector barbossa fanart#hector barbossa potc#potc#pirates of the caribbean#pirates of the carribean fanart#my art
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I think I know why Jack shooting Barbossa worked.
TLDR: moonlight resets the flesh facade. When it isn't reset prior to becoming mortal, Barbossa dies.
So even though they're affected by the curse during non-moonlight hours, they're only skeletal under the moonlight. And as observed, their flesh, whether more of a facade or truely, physically there, is susceptible to pain (ie with Pintel and Raghetti getting hot coals dropped on them during the Sack of Port Royal). The only sensations they don't feel are the pleasurable ones.
So we know Barbossa at the very least felt the shot. And if we take what Will and Elizabeth did too the three pirates they fought, we know that the flesh disappears in the moonlight and reappears once they are out of it. Hence why they were able to stick the skeletons together, stick a bomb in the ones ribcage, and have it blow them to smithereens.
The moon is the key here. Barbossa is shot, doesn't move, and Will puts the last two coins in the chest. Barbossa remains fleshy, he doesn't expose himself to moonlight. Hence, he became mortal with a gaping chest wound. The flesh finally became affected, as evidenced by him feeling the cool night air ("I'm... cold"). Meaning, blood flow is returning (as it appears that it wasnt present while cursed) and since Barbossa can't just step into the moonlight to reset his chest wound, he dies.
We see the same affect with Pintel. Pintel is shot by Barbossa to see if the curse is lifted with Elizabeths blood. He has a hole visible through his clothes, a theoretically he should die or at least be injured once the curs is broken. But there is no such evidence. Why? Because unlike Barbossa, Pintel was exposed to moonlight and became skeletal. And when he got his flashback, the wound was gone. From this wr can conclude the moonlight is what caused the wound to disappear, and had Barbossa stepped into it, he would've survived. But he didn't, so he died.
#pirates of the caribbean#jack sparrow#captain hector barbossa#hector barbossa#captain jack sparrow#headcanon#curse of the black pearl#will turner#elizabeth swann#willabeth#why barbossa died#potc
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A couple random images from my Barbossa screenshot folder because I love my captain and have been thinking about him a lot recently💕
#I've actually started to take so many screenshots bc I intend to use them as reference for the Barbossa cosplay I'm working on#but I keep getting distracted by his handsome face every time I look at them😔#I think the 2nd last is one of my favourites at the moment - he just looks sooo good I can't❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥#also I tried to keep them chronologically and use 5 pics from TCotBP and AWE each (but I have a lot more lmao)#barbossa#hector barbossa#captain barbossa#captain hector barbossa#geoffrey rush#pirates of the caribbean#potc#the curse of the black pearl#at world's end#potc 1#potc 3#potc images#potc screenshots#screenshots#selniasoriginal
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Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World’s End (2007)
#2007#film#movie#Pirates Of The Caribbean#At World's End#Keira Knightley#Elizabeth Swann#David Bailie#Cotton#Orlando Bloom#Will Turner#Johnny Depp#Jack Sparrow#Jack Davenport#Norrington#Geoffrey Rush#Captain Hector Barbossa#Hector Barbossa#Bill Nighy#Davy Jones#pirate
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i love that in pirates of the carribbean: at world's end that barbossa looks shocked that jack would shoot him in the circle gun dual thing like he didn't shoot and ✨kill✨ him in the first movie??
baby he is your killer why the shocked pikachu face?
#pirates of the caribbean#pirates of the carribean at worlds end#pirates of the caribbean: at worlds end#jack sparrow#captain jack sparrow#hector barbossa#captain hector barbossa#little dumb pirate babies#potc
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