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Waiter waiter!!!! More grizzled old men who’ve seen the horrors of the sea please!!!!
#jaws 1975#captain quint#quint jaws#amc the terror#francis crozier#captain haddock#tintin#can this apply to captain haddock???#I mainly made this thinking about jaws and the terror…#the terror amc#how do i tag shit#I have a really big crush on captain quint and have since I was 7#the Magnus archives#tma#peter lukas#the lonely
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22, 33 & 34 for Tintin asks <3
Hi Dim! 💖
22. A song you think suits the Tintin series or a particular character?
Not in English (sorry!) and technically not for a single character but Simplement Amigos by Yanfourd is a great Haddotin song lol it's about two people that have to pretend they're just friends because they know others won't accept them being in love with each other (it's like the peak gay angst song really)
Otherwise, I always giggle when listening to Kapitän by Elfmorgen, because I can imagine Haddock singing the chorus (roughly translated it means "When I'm grown up / I want to be captain / On the MS Kiss My Ass") either when he's drunk or as a young man
33. If you could fight any character, who would it be?
JOLYON WAGG
I could beat him up I just know it
34. If you could hug any character, who would it be?
Probably Haddock he looks like he gives great hugs 😊
Thanks for the ask!! 💕
#listening to english music? couldnt be me lol sorry 😅#simplemente amigos can be applied to almost any gay ship tbh but whatever#tintin#haddotin#captain haddock#answered#dimdiamond
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Pirates & Superheroes
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by Nikidragon13
pirates and superheroes and time travel and sea monsters and magic curses and supervillains and robots and captains and peg legs and trench coats and ships and queer people and secrets and bad decisions and no one can sing and Hiccup screwed up and Toothless has opinions and Jack's winding everyone up and Rapunzel has trauma and Elsa's a lesbian and Astrid has an axe and Merida shoots people and Anna's staying out of it and its all Hiro's fault and Varian's evil and Cassandra's worried and Tooth is freaking out and seashells .
Words: 1381, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: How to Train Your Dragon (Movies), Rise of the Guardians (2012), Tangled (2010), Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure (Cartoon), Brave (2012), Frozen (Disney Movies), Big Hero 6 (2014)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: Multi
Characters: Jack Frost (Guardians of Childhood), Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III, Rapunzel (Disney), Merida (Disney), Toothless (How to Train Your Dragon), Astrid Hofferson, Elsa (Disney), Anna (Disney), Hiro Hamada, Honeymaren (Disney), Ryder Nattura, Valka (How to Train Your Dragon), Stoick the Vast, Fergus (Disney: Brave), Cassandra (Disney: Tangled), Eugene Fitzherbert | Flynn Rider, Nicholas St. North, Toothiana (Guardians of Childhood), E. Aster Bunnymund, Varian (Disney), Angry | Keira (Disney), Red | Catalina (Disney), Wasabi-No Ginger, Go Go Tomago, Fred | Fredzilla, Baymax (Big Hero 6), Honey Lemon (Big Hero 6), Snotlout Jorgenson, Tuffnut Thorston, Ruffnut Thorston, Fishlegs Ingerman, Witch (Disney: Brave), Hubert (Disney: Brave), Hamish (Disney), Harris (Disney), Ariel (Disney), Moana Waialiki
Relationships: Jack Frost (Guardians of Childhood) & Rapunzel (Disney), Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III & Toothless, Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III/Jack Frost (Guardians of Childhood), Astrid Hofferson & Merida (Disney), Elsa/Honeymaren (Disney), Anna & Elsa (Disney), Anna/Kristoff (Disney), Stoick the Vast/Valka, Fergus (Disney: Brave) & Stoick the Vast, Cassandra & Eugene Fitzherbert | Flynn Rider (Disney), Honey Lemon/Go Go Tomago, Ariel/Moana Waialiki (Disney)
Additional Tags: Pirates, Superheroes, Why Did I Write This?, How Do I Tag, I Can't Believe I Wrote This, What Was I Thinking?, Time Travel, POV Multiple, Queer History, Everyone Is Gay, Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III & Merida (Disney) Friendship, Sea Monsters, This Is STUPID
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Pirates & Superheroes
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by Nikidragon13
pirates and superheroes and time travel and sea monsters and magic curses and supervillains and robots and captains and peg legs and trench coats and ships and queer people and secrets and bad decisions and no one can sing and Hiccup screwed up and Toothless has opinions and Jack's winding everyone up and Rapunzel has trauma and Elsa's a lesbian and Astrid has an axe and Merida shoots people and Anna's staying out of it and its all Hiro's fault and Varian's evil and Cassandra's worried and Tooth is freaking out and seashells .
Words: 1381, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English
Fandoms: How to Train Your Dragon (Movies), Rise of the Guardians (2012), Tangled (2010), Rapunzel's Tangled Adventure (Cartoon), Brave (2012), Frozen (Disney Movies), Big Hero 6 (2014)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: Multi
Characters: Jack Frost (Guardians of Childhood), Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III, Rapunzel (Disney), Merida (Disney), Toothless (How to Train Your Dragon), Astrid Hofferson, Elsa (Disney), Anna (Disney), Hiro Hamada, Honeymaren (Disney), Ryder Nattura, Valka (How to Train Your Dragon), Stoick the Vast, Fergus (Disney: Brave), Cassandra (Disney: Tangled), Eugene Fitzherbert | Flynn Rider, Nicholas St. North, Toothiana (Guardians of Childhood), E. Aster Bunnymund, Varian (Disney), Angry | Keira (Disney), Red | Catalina (Disney), Wasabi-No Ginger, Go Go Tomago, Fred | Fredzilla, Baymax (Big Hero 6), Honey Lemon (Big Hero 6), Snotlout Jorgenson, Tuffnut Thorston, Ruffnut Thorston, Fishlegs Ingerman, Witch (Disney: Brave), Hubert (Disney: Brave), Hamish (Disney), Harris (Disney), Ariel (Disney), Moana Waialiki
Relationships: Jack Frost (Guardians of Childhood) & Rapunzel (Disney), Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III & Toothless, Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III/Jack Frost (Guardians of Childhood), Astrid Hofferson & Merida (Disney), Elsa/Honeymaren (Disney), Anna & Elsa (Disney), Anna/Kristoff (Disney), Stoick the Vast/Valka, Fergus (Disney: Brave) & Stoick the Vast, Cassandra & Eugene Fitzherbert | Flynn Rider (Disney), Honey Lemon/Go Go Tomago, Ariel/Moana Waialiki (Disney)
Additional Tags: Pirates, Superheroes, Why Did I Write This?, How Do I Tag, I Can't Believe I Wrote This, What Was I Thinking?, Time Travel, POV Multiple, Queer History, Everyone Is Gay, Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III & Merida (Disney) Friendship, Sea Monsters, This Is STUPID
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Time for a pretty obscure character, it’s Miss Martine! In the Rodier version of Alph-Art everyone is incredibly 70s, while I love 70s fashion I thought I’d do my own design of her that’s rooted in the 30s. I was very much inspired by Miss Lemon from ITV’s Poirot.
Tintin absolutely needs some female friends, and friends that are more his age. I can imagine Martine, Chang and Tintin forming a chaotic trio and tearing up Brussels!
Martine is left in a predicament after her former employer was murdered. The case of his death may have been solved and her name may have been cleared, but she is now left in unemployment during an economic depression.
She reluctantly goes to Tintin for help; things are a little awkward as he previously turned her down when she asked him out at the end of the last case. At Marlinspike she meets Chang who is just moving into his room, and she bumps into Ramo Nash, an artist who worked with the art gallery she was formerly employed at. Nash has been secretly seeing Captain Haddock so has been around Marlinspike more frequently.
Nash informs her of a new exhibition he’s working on at the Museum of Art and History and suggests she applies to work there as a curator. Chang helps break the awkward tension, leaving Martine intrigued about Tintin’s friend from Shanghai.
Martine decides to follow Nash’s advice and applies for work at the museum. Chang and Tintin tag along as Tintin wants to show Chang around the city. Before the interview Martine has a panic attack - Chang manages to calm her down and gives her encouragement. She later gets the job and quickly forms a friendship with Chang, the two often going out in the evening to dance at local jazz bars and dance halls.
In between cases the three of them meet up to hang out. Tintin isn’t used to spending time with his peers so is a little socially awkward. He also still feels guilty for accusing Martine of murdering her former employee, as well as for not reciprocating any feelings for her.
To smooth things out and to thank Chang for his help Martine decides to invite them to the museum’s archive for a behind-the-scenes tour, before Chang is due to return to Shanghai to see his family for the Lunar New Year. Chang’s excitement quickly turns cold when he sees artefacts that have been stolen through colonial force. He quietly laments to Tintin, who impulsively decides to steal an ancient Chinese whistle to return it to its place of origin.
The museum descends into chaos. Nash’s exhibition is cancelled. There is a huge police investigation. Martine is a prime suspect yet again. Tintin is, suspiciously, missing. She and Chang work together to track him down to clear her name. Rather conveniently, Tintin turns up in China having “retrieved” the missing whistle, but when she inspects it closely she can tell it’s a fake. She confronts Tintin about this, but Tintin tells her if it becomes known the real whistle is gone she may lose her job. Martine is horrified at his betrayal.
She decides to stay quiet but cuts ties with Tintin. She remains friends with Chang but warns him to be careful, and not to get too close to Tintin or his work.
#Fanart#animation#2d animation#tintin#Adventures of Tintin#gif#chang#miss martine#Martine Vandezande#flashing gif#flashing gif cw#snowy#milou#gifset#my stories#character design#death cw#i wanted her to be Tall#martine and her two feral manlet pals#swing dance#call of the songbird
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Captain Joseph Watt, VC, Royal Naval Reserve, born at Gardenstown, Banffshire on 25th June 1887, was the second son of Joseph Watt, a fisherman and Helen Watt. his mother was also employed in the fish industry.
His father, had died at sea while fishing for haddock when Joseph Jr was just ten years old.
Determined to follow his father’s career, Watt served an apprenticeship in the fishing boat White Daisy. After the outbreak of the First World War in August 1914 Watt volunteered for the Patrol Service and was commissioned as a skipper in the Royal Naval Reserve on January 11 1915.
After a few months of patrolling the North Sea he was posted to Italy, along with hundreds of other fishermen. In the meantime, Watt had married: on August 5th 1915 to Jessie Ann Noble, a fisherman’s daughter.
Once in Italy, Watt was appointed to the command of HM Drifter Gowanlea, an 87ft wooden vessel. With its crew of nine and armed with a solitary and tiny six-pounder gun, the Gowanlea was part of a flotilla of commandeered steam drifters based in the heel of Italy.
On May 15, 1917, Skipper Watt with a eight man crew on the drifter Gowanlea, was on routine patrol in the Otranto Strait, Mediterranean Sea, with other small search crafts. Unbeknownst to Wattt, the Austrians had planned a major operation against the Allied barrage lines with two destroyers and three submarines.
The Gowanlea was confronted by the Austrian Destroyer Novara, which demanded surrender of the ship and ordered the crew to abandon ship prior to sinking. Instead, Watt ordered his crew to open fire on their large opponent with the drifter's 6-pounder guns. Watt’s ship was hit by heavy shells, seriously damaged with several crewmen wounded but continued to fight.
The other drifters followed in the fight and although many were damaged, managed to head off the Austrian cruisers. Skipper Watt, despite his ship's damage and casualties moved amongst the wreckage, rescuing wounded men and providing medical attention to those in most need. For meritorious service, he was awarded the Victoria Cross Medal on August 29th, 1917.
As well as his VC Joe was awarded the Italian Al Valore Militare and the French Croix de Guerre. In total, the action also led to the award of two Distinguished Service Orders, six Distinguished Service Crosses, five Conspicuous Gallantry Medals, 18 Distinguished Service Medals and 31 Mentions in Despatches.
Watt fell ill shortly after his VC action and spent six weeks recuperating in hospital on Malta. After his release he was promoted to chief skipper but he refused to discuss his VC action, even with his wife.
Typical of the man, there is no record of him ever applying for, or receiving, his Great War service medals. After the war, he went back to fi shing and had two children. During the Second World War, he commanded a drifter serving with the Home Fleet.
Even in his 50s, Watt’s fighting spirit remained undimmed because he told one journalist: “Ah’m not allowed to go to sea to fecht, they think ah’m tae auld.”
Joseph Watt, who was known locally as “VC Joe”, died from cancer at his home in Fraserburgh on February 13th 1955, aged 67.
Joe kept his medals in a drawer full of junk on board his boat. Many of the locals who requested to see the VC were surprised to see it being kept in such a place.
He died on 13 February 1955, age 67, at Fraserburgh, and is buried in the same plot as his wife and her parents at Fraserburgh’s Kirkton Cemetery
You can find a more detailed account of this on Scotland’s war web page here http://www.scotlandswar.co.uk/watt_j.html
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- FANFICTION - 1st part
An Unexpected Meeting
In these radiant weather, Tintin was walking around the flee market, hoping to find some reading treasures. Suddenly, he froze. He had just noticed a magnificent antique: a Caravel.
He looked at it more closely: "The Unicorn" as it was called. Tintin paid the seller, but at that very moment a man rushed to the stall. He was an American, wearing blue felt clothes. He asked Tintin if he didn't want to sell him the beautiful ship. The answer was no, of course. After that, the man warned him against ill-intentioned people who might be willing to do anything to take the ship. The man got further and further away, and finally left.
Suddenly, a voice was heard:
Wonderful...oh... it's just wonderful...
No need to wrap it up, I'll take it as it is, you don't mind if I pay by check?"
An other interested party... thought Tintin.
The salesman answered: If you want to buy it, address it to this boy!
The man replied: I see... so let the boy name his price...
It's not forsale, Tintin replied.
The man introduced himself : My name is Ivan Ivanovich Sakharine. I recently acquired Marlinspike Hall. And,this ship, as you must surely know, has always been part of the estate.
Tintin: Of the late sea captain?
Sakharine:Yes, but the family has suffered great setbacks. They lost everything! They've gone from bad luck to bad luck. . . Let's talk about. . . generations of drinking and irrational behavior.
Tintin: I'm sorry, but as I told you before, it's not for sale. Goodbye,sir.
Sakharine turned to the seller, asking him if he had any idea who he was dealing with.
Seller: You don't know him? It's Tintin. A famous reporter, he is very well known in Belgium but also in the whole world.
Sakharine: I've never heard of this... kid at all. * squinting eyes and looking scornful* Besides, I've only been in Brussels for a short time. He said as he watched Tintin goaway. Then he left without saying a word.
Meanwhile, Tintin returned to his apartment. He had questions in his head. First of all, why did this boat attract so much covetousness? And what secrets could it be hiding?
Tintin put the boat on his cabinet and went to the library. He needed to learn about the history of this caravel. He learned that "The Unicorn" was in fact a ship in Louis XIV's fleet, and that Louis XIV had offered the Captain, Sir Francis Haddock, a priceless treasure as a reward for his loyalty.But the ship was attacked by pirates, and only the Captain escaped.And ever since then, the family has been under a curse.
In the book, an inscription caught his attention:
"Only a true Haddock can discoverthe secret of The Unicorn..."
Later, Tintin returned home and discovered in amazement that the boat had disappeared. On this discovery, he decided to go where he was sure to find it, at Marlinspike Hall, in other words, the present home of Mr.Sakharine.
He arrived on the spot and without surprise, he found the model ship. But suddenly he received a blow to the head and collapsed.
Sakharine : Welcome to Marlinspike Hall !
Tintin went straight to the point: I came to retrieve my property !!
Sakharine: I'm sorry. I am not sure I follow you...
Tintin : Oh, I think you do !
Sakharine: I'm afraid you're mistaken, Mr. Tintin!
Tintin: There's no mistake ! It belongs to me!
Sakharine: Are you sure?
Tintin: Well,of course I'm sure, I took it home, I put it on the cabinet in the living room. A cat came in and dropped it while I was chasing it ! But, hum... (clears throat) How can that be? The mast is intact....It's not my ship.
Sakharine: It certainly isn't your ship, young man! This one I've had for a very long time.
Tintin : I am sorry, it looks identical.
Sakharine: Well, look can bedeceiving !
Tintin: Yes, indeed, but I don't understand ! Why did Sir Francis make two ships exactly alike? And you have one already ! Why do you want another one ? What is about this model that would cause someone to steal it ?
Sakharine: Goodness me! Why so many questions?
Tintin: It's my job, there could be a story here. That's what I do, you see.
Sakharine: Well, it's not a great mystery, Sir Francis Haddock was a drunkard, and a hopeless reprobate. He was doomed to fail and he bequeathed that failure to his sons !
Tintin: So it's true! The Haddock line is cursed!
Sakharine: What else have you find out ?
Tintin:What is there to find?
Sakharine: That depends what you'relooking for !
Tintin: I'm looking for answers,...Mr.Sakharine.
Sakharine: You're looking in the wrong place. ...It's late! I think you should go home, young man ! Nestor! Take him home!
The butler named Nestor met Tintin at the door and said, "It's too bad, sir... That the mast is broken on your model,sir... I hope you've found all the parts, things get lost so easily.
Sakharine called Nestor back, who finally greeted Tintin before closing the door.
A few minutes later, Tintin went home. He took the keys out of his pocket before he realized his door had been forced. When he entered his apartment, he discovered that all the rooms had been returned, but absolutely nothing was missing. Meanwhile, it was clear that this burglar was looking for something specific, but what?
Suddenly, Tintin saw a light under one of the pieces of furniture, especially the one where he had put the caravel down a few hours earlier. He went down to look, and found a small cylindrical silver-colored object. Inside it was a scroll :
Tintin returned to his office to examine what he had just found.
Then he read the manuscript:
"Three brothers joined , three Unicorns in company sailing in the noonday sun will speak. For'tis from the light will dawn. And then shines forh the Eagle's cross. »
Just after the message, strange signs were written.
Tintin doesn't really understand the meaning of all this:
I don't understand what it is. But it explains why they ransacked my apartment. He must have been looking for this, and they didn't find it. Which means...they'll be back...
Suddenly, the doorbell rang, the concierge went to see who it could be at this hour. Going down the stairs, Tintin recognized the voice of the man he had met in the flee market : the "American". He told Mrs. Pinson that he would take care of it.
The man called out to Tintin: My boy, is that you?
Tintin: What do you want?
The man:Listen, I won't tell you everything, but I swear to God, I never thought he would kill for that !
Tintin: Who? Who are you talking about?
Man: I'm trying to tell you that your life is in danger!
Tintin: Answer me, WHO?
The man didn't have time to answer because suddenly he was shot. He collapsed in the hall of the building with just enough time to leave a clue. With his blood, the man had indicated several letters that made up the word: "K-A-R-A-B-O-U-D-J-A-N."
The next morning, Tintin received the Dupondt for the investigation. The man who had been targeted was called Barnabé Dawes, and he was a very high-ranking Interpol inspector. The Dupondt retrieved the newspaper for evidence and left. Tintin walked them to the door. He stepped out for a moment to say goodbye to the Dupondt as they left. He didn't notice that a man had just stolen his wallet, in which the scroll was. Indeed, earlier in the morning, the Dupondt told Tintin that they were on the trail of a pickpocket who had been raiding the city and its surroundings for several weeks.
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Meanwhile, on the boat Karaboudjan...
The ship's captain, Kathrynn Haddock, was busy making an inventory of the goods on the ship, when suddenly one of her "crewmen" injected her with a syringe of a powerful soporific. It was Tom, one of the ship's employees, under the command of a certain Sakharine.
Sakharine had become an intruder on the boat. And now that the captain was out of harm's way, he could take complete control of the ship. Kathrynn found herself trapped in her own boat, in her own holds.
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Meanwhile, while Tintin was quietlywatching the Dupondt leave, he was stopped by two so-called "deliverymen"... who immediately applied a chloroform swab under hisnose. The two men loaded him into a crate and drove him to Karaboudjan.
Tintin woke up chained to a cage. Hesoon realized that his pockets were being searched.
Sakharine arrived in the hold andexclaimed:
Tom, Alllan! Have you found it ?
Allan said, He doesn't have it !
Sakharine : If it it is not here, then where is it ?
Tintin, barely awake, answered: Where iswhat?
Sakharine : The scroll from The Unicorn, apiece of paper like this !
Tintin: You mean the poem ?
Sakharine : Yes...
Tintin: The calligraphic poem ?
Sakharine : Yes...
Tintin : Who was in a cylinder ?
Sakharine: Yes !
Tintin : Concealed in the mast?
Sakharine : YES!
Tintin smiled a little and said: Idon't have it !
Sakharine went into a black anger.
He brandished the sword he had hiddenin his cane and threatened Tintin.
You know the value of this scroll,otherwise why would you want it?
Tintin: Two caravels, and two scrollsforming part of an enigma, you have one, you need the other, butthat's not it, there's something else...
Sakharine: I'll find it with orwithout your help. I advise you to think about how useful you are to me...
Sakharine and her henchmen are on theirway back.
We'll deal with him on the way, he says.
By the time Sakharine reached thebridge, he was angrier than ever.
Ah! He's lying, he must have thatmanuscript, the question is what did he do with it ?
Allan : We searched it thoroughly, boss!
Sakharine : I want you to go down there and makehim talk, break every bone in his body if you have to!
Another henchman of Sakharin's cameshouting:
Mr Sakharine, Mr Sakharine, the Captainhas come to her senses, she's conscious and accuses us of mutiny. Shesays you turned the crew against her!
Sakharine : Well, don't just stand there, give hera shot!
Yes, Boss, they say.
Allan and Tom went back to interrogateTintin, who unfortunately had no means of escape.
Well, this time, you're going to tellus where the scroll is ! Said Allan.
Tintin: I've already told you that Idon't have it.
Allan: All right! We'll have fun then!Tom, you joining the party?
Of course, he said, closing hisstitches.
Allan took Tintin's hair to hold hishead and started kicking him in the stomach.
*Cough*... Tintin spat blood.
After a few minutes, Allan pulled out agun to try to get something from Tintin. But it was more to scare himthan anything else, because Sakharine hadn't ordered to kill him inany way.
Allan : You're going to tell us where thescroll is, or else you can say goodbye to your life !
He placed the gun to his temple.
Obviously, Tintin didn't say a word. Helooked at them scornfully and mockingly.
Allan, very upset by the situation,kicked him in the face, then continued with a punch. He then grabbedTintin's collar. And looked him in the eyes.
Allan : You should tell us, becausewe're really going to end up killing you if you don't.
Tintin, about to faint, tried to say afew words.
Allan: What ? I can't understand whatyou're saying ! (Allan didn't realize that Tintin had actually calledthem idiots.)
And with those words he hit him again.This time, his body couldn't resist anymore, Tintin fainted.
Allan : We won't get anything out ofhim now.
Tom: Yeah, let's go tell the boss! And,it's not going to be a party... He hasn't told us a thing...
When they arrived in Sakharine's cabin, Allan and Tom told him that Tintin hadn't confessed to anything aboutthe parchment's hiding place. And, of course, Sakharine became furious:
I told you to make him talk, not to make him sleep! We're wasting precious time while this kid "rests"...In the meantime, go about your business as a sailor. And, Tom, beforeyou do that, you'd better check that Haddock is all right. I don'twant her to find out about our shenanigans. It's much too early forthat now. She mustn't find out. It'll make revenge all the sweeter. He said, rubbing his hands together.
Next on another post ^^
#tintin#the adventures of tintin the secret of the unicorn#the adventures of tintin#les aventures de tintin et le secret de la licorne#les aventures de tintin#ivan ivanovitch sakharine#sakharine#kathrynn haddock#sir francis haddock#francois de haddock#archibald haddock#haddock#allan thompson#tomtintin
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TIN TIN IN SUMATRA
Reblogging this in a more understandable language (more or less ...)
I can never think that it's not all about Sherlock ...Referring to the comment of @darlingtonsubstitution in this tread, I totally agree. Even my thoughts on seeing the blue and the hat with a visor ran to Tin Tin. And, talking about this, the similarities between the two, Sherlock and Tin Tin are not few. Surely the Doyle creature inspired Herge.
(this is a book in which the author talk about Holmes and Tin Tin) Both are intelligent and observers. They love revealing the mysteries, but they love to know things. They live on the first floor of a house, which has a landlady on the ground floor. Tin Tin's regular companion is a sailor, a captain to be precise. (which is then called Haddock because apparently, playing with the opposing reflections of the mirrors is not a new thing). Tin Tin represents the side of the couple, while the emotional side is Haddock. The same Haddock in a comic book called Tin Tin, Sherlock Holmes. Both are confirmed bachelors. Tin Tin always travels together with an incredibly smart little white dog, working in perfect symbiosis as much that I think it could be consideratet like a extencinon of Tin Tin himself. The police force are ridiculed, they are not capable to find the hat they have in their head without help. This applies to both versions. Tin Tin in an album falls from a waterfall but does not die. I seem to remember that the same thing happens to Holmes ... all are precise masters in the art of camouflage and breaking codes. But it does not end here. In 2011, a film was released, shot by Peter Jackson about Tin Tin. And one of the writers was Moffat.
spoiler under the cut
The film is very funny and the animation is spectacular. But even from Sherlock's point of view there are interesting things. Immediately we are told that Tin Tin is famous, a phenomenon of the press.
we see him using a magnifying glass
He lives in a flat, on the first floor
in which, between two windows with long drapes, there is a picture of a buffalo.
His dog gets very angry if a cat enters his house ... now dogs generally do not like cats, it is an established stereotype, but if we apply the dog / homosexuality metaphor, cat / heterosexuality, home / heart ... it works perfectly also here.
the first meeting with Haddock is not even subtle
and the captain quotes Doyle directly, to remove any doubt.
(dog = giant rat of Sumatra)
The story revolves around the curse that affects the descendants of a family. Not for nothing Tin Tin is pursued by a ferocious dog, but it is promptly tamed by Milou / Snowy. At the end turn up that the dog belong to family of Haddock, following the dog's interpretation of @sagestreet, all this is very beautiful.
In the course of their adventure they will have retrive a model of a galleon. Yes the plot involves a Pirate, which name containe the word RED...
The galleon is guarded behind a very resistant glass
The villain will use a soprano (Adler for anyone?)
for break the glass.
The whole plot revolves around a treasure, that can be found through a series of poems that hide a code. The treasure is held in the basement of a family home. A nice mix between SIGN and MUSG.
In the end, the two friends, far from being separated, are ready for a new adventure. The couple has consolidated.
I can never think that it's not all about Sherlock ... ;-P
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18 new details about Elon Musk’s redesigned, moon-bound ‘Big F*ing Rocket’
Although the spotlight at this week’s SpaceX event was squarely on Japanese billionaire Yusaku Maezawa — the first paying passenger for the company’s nascent space tourism business — Elon Musk also revealed a wealth of new details about the BFR and just how this enormous rocket and spacecraft will get to the moon and back.
In a lengthy (one might even say rambling, in the true Musk style) presentation, we were treated to cinematic and technical views of the planned rocket, which is already under construction and could take flight as early as a couple years from now — and Musk then candidly held forth on numerous topics in a lengthy Q&A period. As a result we learned quite a bit about this newly redesigned craft-in-progress.
Are you sitting comfortably? Good. Hope you like pictures of spaceships!
(Note: Quotes are transcribed directly from the video but may have been very slightly edited for clarity, such as the removal of “you know” and “like.”)
BFR is “ridiculously big”
Well, that’s not really news — it’s right there in the name. But now we know exactly how ridiculously big.
“The production design of BFR is different in some important ways from what I presented about a year ago,” Musk said, including its dimensions. The redesigned spacecraft (or BFS) will be 118 meters in length, or about 387 feet; just under half of that, 55 meters, will be the spacecraft itself. Inside you have about 1,100 cubic meters of payload space. That’s all around 15-20 percent larger than how it was last described. Its max payload is 100 metric tons to low Earth orbit.
“I mean, this is a ridiculously big rocket,” he added. The illustration on the wall, he pointed out, is life-size. As you can see it dwarfs the crowd and the other rockets.
What will fit in there? It depends on the mission, as you’ll see later.
No one knows what to call the fin-wing-things
Although Musk was clear on how the spacecraft worked, he was still a little foggy on nomenclature — not because he forgot, but because the parts don’t really correspond exactly with anything in flight right now. “There are two forward and two rear actuated wings, or fins,” he said. They don’t really fit the definition of either, he suggested — especially since they also act as legs.
The top fin “really is just a leg”
The fin on top of the craft gives it a very Space Shuttle-esque look, and it was natural that most would think that it’s a vertical stabilizer of some kind. But Musk shut that down quickly: “It doesn’t have any aerodynamic purpose — it really is just a leg.” He pointed out that during any atmospheric operations, the fin will be in the lee of the craft and won’t have any real effect.
“It looks the same as the other ones for purposes of symmetry,” he explained.
“If in doubt, go with Tintin”
It was pointed out when the new design was teased last week that it bore some resemblance to the ship Tintin (and Captain Haddock, and Professor Calculus, et al.) pilot to the moon in the classic comics. Turns out this isn’t a coincidence.
“The iteration before this decoupled the landing legs from the control surfaces — it basically had 6 legs. I actually didn’t like the aesthetics of that design,” Musk said. “I love the Tintin rocket design, so I kind of wanted to bias it toward that. So now we have the three large legs, with two of them actuating as body flaps or large moving wings.”
“I think this design is probably on par with the other one. It might be better. Yeah, if in doubt, go with Tintin,” he said.
BFR is “more like a skydiver than an aircraft”
An interplanetary spacecraft doesn’t have the same design restrictions as a passenger jet, so it may fly completely differently.
“You want four control surfaces to be able to control the vehicle through a wide range of atmospheric densities and velocities,” Musk explained, referring to the four fin-wing-flaps. “The way it behaves is a bit more like a skydiver than an aircraft. If you apply normal intuition it will not make sense.”
Actually if you imagine the plane as a person falling to earth, and that person controlling their orientation by moving their arms and legs — their built-in flaps — it does seem rather intuitive.
Reentry will “look really epic”
“Almost the entire time it is reentering, it’s just trying to brake, while distributing that force over the most area possible — it uses the entire body to brake,” Musk said. This is another point of similarity with the Space Shuttle, which used its heat-resistance bottom surface as a huge air brake.
“This will look really epic in person,” he enthused.
Of course, that only applies when there’s an atmosphere. “Obviously if you’re landing on the moon you don’t need any aerodynamic surfaces at all, because there’s no air.”
The seven-engine configuration leaves a huge safety margin
Astute observers like yours truly noticed that the number and arrangement of the craft’s Raptor engines had changed in the picture tweeted last week. Musk complimented the questioner (and by extension, me) for noting this and explained.
“In order to minimize the development risk and costs, we decided to harmonize the engine between the booster and the ship,” he said. In other words, it made more sense and cost less to put the same set of Raptors on both the craft itself and the rocket that would take it to space. Previously the ship had been planned to have four large Raptor engines and two smaller sea-level engines for landing purposes. The trade-off, obviously, is that it will be a bit more costly to build the ship, but the benefits are manifold.
“Having the engines in that configuration, with seven engines, means it’s definitely capable of engine out at any time, including two engine out in almost all circumstances,” he said, referring to the possibility of an engine cutting out during flight. “In fact in some cases you could lose up to four engines and still be fine. It only needs three engines for landing.”
It has a deployable solar array
In the video explaining the mission, the BFS deploys a set of what appear to be solar panels from near the engines. How exactly this would work wasn’t explained at all — and in the images you can see there really isn’t a place for them to retract into. So this is likely only in the concept phase right now.
This isn’t exactly a surprise — solar is by far the most practical way to replenish small to medium amounts of electricity used for things like lights and life support, as demonstrated by most spacecraft and of course the International Space Station.
But until now we haven’t seen how those solar panels would be deployed. The fan structure at the rear would keep the panels out of view of passengers and pilots, and the single-stem design would allow them to be tilted and rotated to capture the maximum amount of sunlight.
The interior will depend on the mission
Although everyone is no doubt eager to see what the inside of the spaceship looks like, Musk cautioned that they are still at a concept stage there. He did say that they have learned a lot from the Crew Dragon capsule, however, and that will be plenty of shared parts and designs.
“Depending on the type of mission, you’d have a different configuration,” he explained. “If you were going to Mars that’s at least a three-month journey. You want to have a cabin, like a common area for recreation, some sort of meeting rooms… because you’ll be in this thing for months.”
Water and air in a months-long journey would have to be a closed-loop system, he noted, though he didn’t give any indication how that would work.
But it will include “the most fun you can possibly have in zero G”
“Now if you’re going, say, to the moon or around the moon, you have a several-day journey,” Musk continued. But then he mused on what the spare space would be used for. “What is the most fun you can have in zero G? That for sure is a key thing. Fun is underrated. Whatever is the most enjoyable thing you could possibly do — we’ll do that.”
Assuming the passengers have gotten over their space sickness, of course.
BFR will cost “roughly $5 billion” to develop
Musk was reticent to put any hard numbers out, given how early SpaceX is in development, but said: “If I were to guess it would be something like 5 billion dollars, which would be really quite a small amount for a project of this nature.”
He’s not wrong. Just for a sense of scale, the Space Shuttle program would probably have cost nearly $200 billion in today’s dollars. The F-35 program will end up costing something like $400 billion. These things aren’t directly comparable, of course, but they do give you a sense of how much money is involved in this type of thing.
Funding is still a semi-open question
First two Starlink demo satellites, called Tintin A & B, deployed and communicating to Earth stations pic.twitter.com/TfI53wHEtz
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 22, 2018
Where exactly that money will come from isn’t totally clear, but Musk did point out that SpaceX does have reliable business coming from its International Space Station resupply missions and commercial launches. And next year, he pointed out, crewed launches could bring another source of income to the mix.
That’s in addition to Starlink, the satellite internet service in the offing. That’s still in tests, of course (and Tintin-related, as well).
Yusaku Maezawa’s ticket price is a “non-trivial” contribution
Hanging out with @yousuck2020 before the @SpaceX moon mission announcement pic.twitter.com/RTOwutzMtG
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 18, 2018
Although both men declined to elaborate on the actual price Maezawa paid, Musk did indicate it was considerable — and of course, he’s also essentially paying for the artists he plans to bring with him.
“He’s made a significant deposit on the price, which is a significant price and will actually have a material effect on paying for the cost of developing the BFR,” Musk said. “It’s a non-trivial amount.”
But it’s already under construction
“We’re already building it. We’ve built the first cylinder section,” Musk said, showing an image of that part, 9 meters in diameter. “We’ll build the domes and the engine section soon.”
Test flights could begin as early as next year
“We’ll start doing hopper flights next year,” Musk said. “Depending on how those go we’ll do high-altitude, high-velocity flights in 2020, then start doing tests of the booster. If things go well we could be doing the first orbital flights in about two to three years.”
This is the most optimistic scenario, he later clarified.
“We’re definitely not sure. But you have to set a date that’s kind of like the ‘things go right’ date.”
The circumlunar flight could “skim the surface” of the moon
The flight plan for the trip around the moon is relatively straightforward, as lunar missions go. Launch, orbit Earth, thrust to zoom off towards the moon, use moon’s gravity to boomerang back, and then land. But the exact path is to be determined, and Musk has ideas.
“I think it would be pretty exciting to like skim the surface,” he said, attempting to illustrate the orbit with gestures. “Go real close, then zoom out far, then come back around. In the diagram it looks kinda symmetric but I think you’d want to go real close.”
As the moon has no atmosphere, there’s no question of the craft getting slowed down or having its path altered by getting closer to it. The orbital dynamics would change, of course, but the moon’s trajectory is nothing if not well understood, so it’s just a question of how safe the mission planners want to play it, regardless of Musk’s fantasies.
“This is pretty off the cuff,” he admitted.
“This is a dangerous mission”
There will be plenty of tests before Maezawa and his artist friends take off.
“We’ll do many such test flights before putting any people on board. I’m not sure if we will actually test a flight around the moon or not, but probably we will try to do that without people before sending people.”
“That would be wise,” he concluded, seeming to make a decision then and there. But spaceflight is inherently risky, and he did not attempt to hide that fact.
“This is a dangerous mission,” he said. “We’ll leave a lot of extra room for extra food and oxygen, food and water, spare parts… you know, just in case.”
Maezawa, who was sitting next to him on stage, did not seem perturbed by this — he was certain to have assessed the risks before buying the ticket. In answer to a related question, he did indicate that astronaut-style training was in the plans, but the regimen was not yet planned.
It probably won’t even be called the BFR
There’s no getting around the fact that BFR stands for “Big Fucking Rocket,” or at least that’s what Musk and others have implied while coyly avoiding confirming. This juvenile naming scheme is in line with Tesla’s. Perhaps cognizant of posterity and the dignity of mankind’s expansion into space, Musk suggested this might not be permanent.
“We should probably think of a different name,” he admitted. This was kind of a code name and it kind of stuck.”
Again, if it officially just stood for “Big Falcon Rocket,” this probably wouldn’t be an issue. But regardless, Musk’s trademark geeky sense of humor remained.
“The only thing is, we’d like to name the first ship that goes to Mars after — Douglas Adams, my favorite spaceship — the Heart of Gold, from Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.”
As far off as the moon mission is, the Mars mission is even further, and Musk changes his mind on nearly everything — but this is one thing I can sense he’s committed to.
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Although the spotlight at this week’s SpaceX event was squarely on Japanese billionaire Yusaku Maezawa — the first paying passenger for the company’s nascent space tourism business — Elon Musk also revealed a wealth of new details about the BFR and just how this enormous rocket and spacecraft will get to the moon and back.
In a lengthy (one might even say rambling, in the true Musk style) presentation, we were treated to cinematic and technical views of the planned rocket, which is already under construction and could take flight as early as a couple years from now — and Musk then candidly held forth on numerous topics in a lengthy Q&A period. As a result we learned quite a bit about this newly redesigned craft-in-progress.
Are you sitting comfortably? Good. Hope you like pictures of spaceships!
(Note: Quotes are transcribed directly from the video but may have been very slightly edited for clarity, such as the removal of “you know” and “like.”)
BFR is “ridiculously big”
Well, that’s not really news — it’s right there in the name. But now we know exactly how ridiculously big.
“The production design of BFR is different in some important ways from what I presented about a year ago,” Musk said, including its dimensions. The redesigned spacecraft (or BFS) will be 118 meters in length, or about 387 feet; just under half of that, 55 meters, will be the spacecraft itself. Inside you have about 1,100 cubic meters of payload space. That’s all around 15-20 percent larger than how it was last described. Its max payload is 100 metric tons to low Earth orbit.
“I mean, this is a ridiculously big rocket,” he added. The illustration on the wall, he pointed out, is life-size. As you can see it dwarfs the crowd and the other rockets.
What will fit in there? It depends on the mission, as you’ll see later.
No one knows what to call the fin-wing-things
Although Musk was clear on how the spacecraft worked, he was still a little foggy on nomenclature — not because he forgot, but because the parts don’t really correspond exactly with anything in flight right now. “There are two forward and two rear actuated wings, or fins,” he said. They don’t really fit the definition of either, he suggested — especially since they also act as legs.
The top fin “really is just a leg”
The fin on top of the craft gives it a very Space Shuttle-esque look, and it was natural that most would think that it’s a vertical stabilizer of some kind. But Musk shut that down quickly: “It doesn’t have any aerodynamic purpose — it really is just a leg.” He pointed out that during any atmospheric operations, the fin will be in the lee of the craft and won’t have any real effect.
“It looks the same as the other ones for purposes of symmetry,” he explained.
“If in doubt, go with Tintin”
It was pointed out when the new design was teased last week that it bore some resemblance to the ship Tintin (and Captain Haddock, and Professor Calculus, et al.) pilot to the moon in the classic comics. Turns out this isn’t a coincidence.
“The iteration before this decoupled the landing legs from the control surfaces — it basically had 6 legs. I actually didn’t like the aesthetics of that design,” Musk said. “I love the Tintin rocket design, so I kind of wanted to bias it toward that. So now we have the three large legs, with two of them actuating as body flaps or large moving wings.”
“I think this design is probably on par with the other one. It might be better. Yeah, if in doubt, go with Tintin,” he said.
BFR is “more like a skydiver than an aircraft”
An interplanetary spacecraft doesn’t have the same design restrictions as a passenger jet, so it may fly completely differently.
“You want four control surfaces to be able to control the vehicle through a wide range of atmospheric densities and velocities,” Musk explained, referring to the four fin-wing-flaps. “The way it behaves is a bit more like a skydiver than an aircraft. If you apply normal intuition it will not make sense.”
Actually if you imagine the plane as a person falling to earth, and that person controlling their orientation by moving their arms and legs — their built-in flaps — it does seem rather intuitive.
Reentry will “look really epic”
“Almost the entire time it is reentering, it’s just trying to brake, while distributing that force over the most area possible — it uses the entire body to brake,” Musk said. This is another point of similarity with the Space Shuttle, which used its heat-resistance bottom surface as a huge air brake.
“This will look really epic in person,” he enthused.
Of course, that only applies when there’s an atmosphere. “Obviously if you’re landing on the moon you don’t need any aerodynamic surfaces at all, because there’s no air.”
The seven-engine configuration leaves a huge safety margin
Astute observers like yours truly noticed that the number and arrangement of the craft’s Raptor engines had changed in the picture tweeted last week. Musk complimented the questioner (and by extension, me) for noting this and explained.
“In order to minimize the development risk and costs, we decided to harmonize the engine between the booster and the ship,” he said. In other words, it made more sense and cost less to put a similar type of Raptor engine on both the craft itself and the rocket that would take it to space. Previously the ship had been planned to have four large Raptor engines and two smaller sea-level engines for landing purposes. The trade-off, obviously, is that it will be a bit more costly to build the ship, but the benefits are manifold.
“Having the engines in that configuration, with seven engines, means it’s definitely capable of engine out at any time, including two engine out in almost all circumstances,” he said, referring to the possibility of an engine cutting out during flight. “In fact in some cases you could lose up to four engines and still be fine. It only needs three engines for landing.”
The booster, of course, will have considerably more thrusters — 31 to start, and as many as 42 down the road. (The number was not chosen arbitrarily, as you might guess.)
It has a deployable solar array
In the video explaining the mission, the BFS deploys a set of what appear to be solar panels from near the engines. How exactly this would work wasn’t explained at all — and in the images you can see there really isn’t a place for them to retract into. So this is likely only in the concept phase right now.
This isn’t exactly a surprise — solar is by far the most practical way to replenish small to medium amounts of electricity used for things like lights and life support, as demonstrated by most spacecraft and of course the International Space Station.
But until now we haven’t seen how those solar panels would be deployed. The fan structure at the rear would keep the panels out of view of passengers and pilots, and the single-stem design would allow them to be tilted and rotated to capture the maximum amount of sunlight.
The interior will depend on the mission
Although everyone is no doubt eager to see what the inside of the spaceship looks like, Musk cautioned that they are still at a concept stage there. He did say that they have learned a lot from the Crew Dragon capsule, however, and that will be plenty of shared parts and designs.
“Depending on the type of mission, you’d have a different configuration,” he explained. “If you were going to Mars that’s at least a three-month journey. You want to have a cabin, like a common area for recreation, some sort of meeting rooms… because you’ll be in this thing for months.”
Water and air in a months-long journey would have to be a closed-loop system, he noted, though he didn’t give any indication how that would work.
But it will include “the most fun you can possibly have in zero G”
“Now if you’re going, say, to the moon or around the moon, you have a several-day journey,” Musk continued. But then he mused on what the spare space would be used for. “What is the most fun you can have in zero G? That for sure is a key thing. Fun is underrated. Whatever is the most enjoyable thing you could possibly do — we’ll do that.”
Assuming the passengers have gotten over their space sickness, of course.
BFR will cost “roughly $5 billion” to develop
Musk was reticent to put any hard numbers out, given how early SpaceX is in development, but said: “If I were to guess it would be something like 5 billion dollars, which would be really quite a small amount for a project of this nature.”
He’s not wrong. Just for a sense of scale, the Space Shuttle program would probably have cost nearly $200 billion in today’s dollars. The F-35 program will end up costing something like $400 billion. These things aren’t directly comparable, of course, but they do give you a sense of how much money is involved in this type of thing.
Funding is still a semi-open question
First two Starlink demo satellites, called Tintin A & B, deployed and communicating to Earth stations pic.twitter.com/TfI53wHEtz
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 22, 2018
Where exactly that money will come from isn’t totally clear, but Musk did point out that SpaceX does have reliable business coming from its International Space Station resupply missions and commercial launches. And next year, he pointed out, crewed launches could bring another source of income to the mix.
That’s in addition to Starlink, the satellite internet service in the offing. That’s still in tests, of course (and Tintin-related, as well).
Yusaku Maezawa’s ticket price is a “non-trivial” contribution
Hanging out with @yousuck2020 before the @SpaceX moon mission announcement pic.twitter.com/RTOwutzMtG
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 18, 2018
Although both men declined to elaborate on the actual price Maezawa paid, Musk did indicate it was considerable — and of course, he’s also essentially paying for the artists he plans to bring with him.
“He’s made a significant deposit on the price, which is a significant price and will actually have a material effect on paying for the cost of developing the BFR,” Musk said. “It’s a non-trivial amount.”
But it’s already under construction
“We’re already building it. We’ve built the first cylinder section,” Musk said, showing an image of that part, 9 meters in diameter. “We’ll build the domes and the engine section soon.”
Test flights could begin as early as next year
“We’ll start doing hopper flights next year,” Musk said. “Depending on how those go we’ll do high-altitude, high-velocity flights in 2020, then start doing tests of the booster. If things go well we could be doing the first orbital flights in about two to three years.”
This is the most optimistic scenario, he later clarified.
“We’re definitely not sure. But you have to set a date that’s kind of like the ‘things go right’ date.”
The circumlunar flight could “skim the surface” of the moon
The flight plan for the trip around the moon is relatively straightforward, as lunar missions go. Launch, orbit Earth, thrust to zoom off towards the moon, use moon’s gravity to boomerang back, and then land. But the exact path is to be determined, and Musk has ideas.
“I think it would be pretty exciting to like skim the surface,” he said, attempting to illustrate the orbit with gestures. “Go real close, then zoom out far, then come back around. In the diagram it looks kinda symmetric but I think you’d want to go real close.”
As the moon has no atmosphere, there’s no question of the craft getting slowed down or having its path altered by getting closer to it. The orbital dynamics would change, of course, but the moon’s trajectory is nothing if not well understood, so it’s just a question of how safe the mission planners want to play it, regardless of Musk’s fantasies.
“This is pretty off the cuff,” he admitted.
“This is a dangerous mission”
There will be plenty of tests before Maezawa and his artist friends take off.
“We’ll do many such test flights before putting any people on board. I’m not sure if we will actually test a flight around the moon or not, but probably we will try to do that without people before sending people.”
“That would be wise,” he concluded, seeming to make a decision then and there. But spaceflight is inherently risky, and he did not attempt to hide that fact.
“This is a dangerous mission,” he said. “We’ll leave a lot of extra room for extra food and oxygen, food and water, spare parts… you know, just in case.”
Maezawa, who was sitting next to him on stage, did not seem perturbed by this — he was certain to have assessed the risks before buying the ticket. In answer to a related question, he did indicate that astronaut-style training was in the plans, but the regimen was not yet planned.
It probably won’t even be called the BFR
There’s no getting around the fact that BFR stands for “Big Fucking Rocket,” or at least that’s what Musk and others have implied while coyly avoiding confirming. This juvenile naming scheme is in line with Tesla’s. Perhaps cognizant of posterity and the dignity of mankind’s expansion into space, Musk suggested this might not be permanent.
“We should probably think of a different name,” he admitted. This was kind of a code name and it kind of stuck.”
Again, if it officially just stood for “Big Falcon Rocket,” this probably wouldn’t be an issue. But regardless, Musk’s trademark geeky sense of humor remained.
“The only thing is, we’d like to name the first ship that goes to Mars after — Douglas Adams, my favorite spaceship — the Heart of Gold, from Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.”
As far off as the moon mission is, the Mars mission is even further, and Musk changes his mind on nearly everything — but this is one thing I can sense he’s committed to.
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18 new details about Elon Musk’s redesigned, moon-bound ‘Big F*ing Rocket’
Although the spotlight at this week’s SpaceX event was squarely on Japanese billionaire Yusaku Maezawa — the first paying passenger for the company’s nascent space tourism business — Elon Musk also revealed a wealth of new details about the BFR and just how this enormous rocket and spacecraft will get to the moon and back.
In a lengthy (one might even say rambling, in the true Musk style) presentation, we were treated to cinematic and technical views of the planned rocket, which is already under construction and could take flight as early as a couple years from now — and Musk then candidly held forth on numerous topics in a lengthy Q&A period. As a result we learned quite a bit about this newly redesigned craft-in-progress.
Are you sitting comfortably? Good. Hope you like pictures of spaceships!
(Note: Quotes are transcribed directly from the video but may have been very slightly edited for clarity, such as the removal of “you know” and “like.”)
BFR is “ridiculously big”
Well, that’s not really news — it’s right there in the name. But now we know exactly how ridiculously big.
“The production design of BFR is different in some important ways from what I presented about a year ago,” Musk said, including its dimensions. The redesigned spacecraft (or BFS) will be 118 meters in length, or about 387 feet; just under half of that, 55 meters, will be the spacecraft itself. Inside you have about 1,100 cubic meters of payload space. That’s all around 15-20 percent larger than how it was last described. Its max payload is 100 metric tons to low Earth orbit.
“I mean, this is a ridiculously big rocket,” he added. The illustration on the wall, he pointed out, is life-size. As you can see it dwarfs the crowd and the other rockets.
What will fit in there? It depends on the mission, as you’ll see later.
No one knows what to call the fin-wing-things
Although Musk was clear on how the spacecraft worked, he was still a little foggy on nomenclature — not because he forgot, but because the parts don’t really correspond exactly with anything in flight right now. “There are two forward and two rear actuated wings, or fins,” he said. They don’t really fit the definition of either, he suggested — especially since they also act as legs.
The top fin “really is just a leg”
The fin on top of the craft gives it a very Space Shuttle-esque look, and it was natural that most would think that it’s a vertical stabilizer of some kind. But Musk shut that down quickly: “It doesn’t have any aerodynamic purpose — it really is just a leg.” He pointed out that during any atmospheric operations, the fin will be in the lee of the craft and won’t have any real effect.
“It looks the same as the other ones for purposes of symmetry,” he explained.
“If in doubt, go with Tintin”
It was pointed out when the new design was teased last week that it bore some resemblance to the ship Tintin (and Captain Haddock, and Professor Calculus, et al.) pilot to the moon in the classic comics. Turns out this isn’t a coincidence.
“The iteration before this decoupled the landing legs from the control surfaces — it basically had 6 legs. I actually didn’t like the aesthetics of that design,” Musk said. “I love the Tintin rocket design, so I kind of wanted to bias it toward that. So now we have the three large legs, with two of them actuating as body flaps or large moving wings.”
“I think this design is probably on par with the other one. It might be better. Yeah, if in doubt, go with Tintin,” he said.
BFR is “more like a skydiver than an aircraft”
An interplanetary spacecraft doesn’t have the same design restrictions as a passenger jet, so it may fly completely differently.
“You want four control surfaces to be able to control the vehicle through a wide range of atmospheric densities and velocities,” Musk explained, referring to the four fin-wing-flaps. “The way it behaves is a bit more like a skydiver than an aircraft. If you apply normal intuition it will not make sense.”
Actually if you imagine the plane as a person falling to earth, and that person controlling their orientation by moving their arms and legs — their built-in flaps — it does seem rather intuitive.
Reentry will “look really epic”
“Almost the entire time it is reentering, it’s just trying to brake, while distributing that force over the most area possible — it uses the entire body to brake,” Musk said. This is another point of similarity with the Space Shuttle, which used its heat-resistance bottom surface as a huge air brake.
“This will look really epic in person,” he enthused.
Of course, that only applies when there’s an atmosphere. “Obviously if you’re landing on the moon you don’t need any aerodynamic surfaces at all, because there’s no air.”
The seven-engine configuration leaves a huge safety margin
Astute observers like yours truly noticed that the number and arrangement of the craft’s Raptor engines had changed in the picture tweeted last week. Musk complimented the questioner (and by extension, me) for noting this and explained.
“In order to minimize the development risk and costs, we decided to harmonize the engine between the booster and the ship,” he said. In other words, it made more sense and cost less to put the same set of Raptors on both the craft itself and the rocket that would take it to space. Previously the ship had been planned to have four large Raptor engines and two smaller sea-level engines for landing purposes. The trade-off, obviously, is that it will be a bit more costly to build the ship, but the benefits are manifold.
“Having the engines in that configuration, with seven engines, means it’s definitely capable of engine out at any time, including two engine out in almost all circumstances,” he said, referring to the possibility of an engine cutting out during flight. “In fact in some cases you could lose up to four engines and still be fine. It only needs three engines for landing.”
It has a deployable solar array
In the video explaining the mission, the BFS deploys a set of what appear to be solar panels from near the engines. How exactly this would work wasn’t explained at all — and in the images you can see there really isn’t a place for them to retract into. So this is likely only in the concept phase right now.
This isn’t exactly a surprise — solar is by far the most practical way to replenish small to medium amounts of electricity used for things like lights and life support, as demonstrated by most spacecraft and of course the International Space Station.
But until now we haven’t seen how those solar panels would be deployed. The fan structure at the rear would keep the panels out of view of passengers and pilots, and the single-stem design would allow them to be tilted and rotated to capture the maximum amount of sunlight.
The interior will depend on the mission
Although everyone is no doubt eager to see what the inside of the spaceship looks like, Musk cautioned that they are still at a concept stage there. He did say that they have learned a lot from the Crew Dragon capsule, however, and that will be plenty of shared parts and designs.
“Depending on the type of mission, you’d have a different configuration,” he explained. “If you were going to Mars that’s at least a three-month journey. You want to have a cabin, like a common area for recreation, some sort of meeting rooms… because you’ll be in this thing for months.”
Water and air in a months-long journey would have to be a closed-loop system, he noted, though he didn’t give any indication how that would work.
But it will include “the most fun you can possibly have in zero G”
“Now if you’re going, say, to the moon or around the moon, you have a several-day journey,” Musk continued. But then he mused on what the spare space would be used for. “What is the most fun you can have in zero G? That for sure is a key thing. Fun is underrated. Whatever is the most enjoyable thing you could possibly do — we’ll do that.”
Assuming the passengers have gotten over their space sickness, of course.
BFR will cost “roughly $5 billion” to develop
Musk was reticent to put any hard numbers out, given how early SpaceX is in development, but said: “If I were to guess it would be something like 5 billion dollars, which would be really quite a small amount for a project of this nature.”
He’s not wrong. Just for a sense of scale, the Space Shuttle program would probably have cost nearly $200 billion in today’s dollars. The F-35 program will end up costing something like $400 billion. These things aren’t directly comparable, of course, but they do give you a sense of how much money is involved in this type of thing.
Funding is still a semi-open question
First two Starlink demo satellites, called Tintin A & B, deployed and communicating to Earth stations pic.twitter.com/TfI53wHEtz
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 22, 2018
Where exactly that money will come from isn’t totally clear, but Musk did point out that SpaceX does have reliable business coming from its International Space Station resupply missions and commercial launches. And next year, he pointed out, crewed launches could bring another source of income to the mix.
That’s in addition to Starlink, the satellite internet service in the offing. That’s still in tests, of course (and Tintin-related, as well).
Yusaku Maezawa’s ticket price is a “non-trivial” contribution
Hanging out with @yousuck2020 before the @SpaceX moon mission announcement pic.twitter.com/RTOwutzMtG
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 18, 2018
Although both men declined to elaborate on the actual price Maezawa paid, Musk did indicate it was considerable — and of course, he’s also essentially paying for the artists he plans to bring with him.
“He’s made a significant deposit on the price, which is a significant price and will actually have a material effect on paying for the cost of developing the BFR,” Musk said. “It’s a non-trivial amount.”
But it’s already under construction
“We’re already building it. We’ve built the first cylinder section,” Musk said, showing an image of that part, 9 meters in diameter. “We’ll build the domes and the engine section soon.”
Test flights could begin as early as next year
“We’ll start doing hopper flights next year,” Musk said. “Depending on how those go we’ll do high-altitude, high-velocity flights in 2020, then start doing tests of the booster. If things go well we could be doing the first orbital flights in about two to three years.”
This is the most optimistic scenario, he later clarified.
“We’re definitely not sure. But you have to set a date that’s kind of like the ‘things go right’ date.”
The circumlunar flight could “skim the surface” of the moon
The flight plan for the trip around the moon is relatively straightforward, as lunar missions go. Launch, orbit Earth, thrust to zoom off towards the moon, use moon’s gravity to boomerang back, and then land. But the exact path is to be determined, and Musk has ideas.
“I think it would be pretty exciting to like skim the surface,” he said, attempting to illustrate the orbit with gestures. “Go real close, then zoom out far, then come back around. In the diagram it looks kinda symmetric but I think you’d want to go real close.”
As the moon has no atmosphere, there’s no question of the craft getting slowed down or having its path altered by getting closer to it. The orbital dynamics would change, of course, but the moon’s trajectory is nothing if not well understood, so it’s just a question of how safe the mission planners want to play it, regardless of Musk’s fantasies.
“This is pretty off the cuff,” he admitted.
“This is a dangerous mission”
There will be plenty of tests before Maezawa and his artist friends take off.
“We’ll do many such test flights before putting any people on board. I’m not sure if we will actually test a flight around the moon or not, but probably we will try to do that without people before sending people.”
“That would be wise,” he concluded, seeming to make a decision then and there. But spaceflight is inherently risky, and he did not attempt to hide that fact.
“This is a dangerous mission,” he said. “We’ll leave a lot of extra room for extra food and oxygen, food and water, spare parts… you know, just in case.”
Maezawa, who was sitting next to him on stage, did not seem perturbed by this — he was certain to have assessed the risks before buying the ticket. In answer to a related question, he did indicate that astronaut-style training was in the plans, but the regimen was not yet planned.
It probably won’t even be called the BFR
There’s no getting around the fact that BFR stands for “Big Fucking Rocket,” or at least that’s what Musk and others have implied while coyly avoiding confirming. This juvenile naming scheme is in line with Tesla’s. Perhaps cognizant of posterity and the dignity of mankind’s expansion into space, Musk suggested this might not be permanent.
“We should probably think of a different name,” he admitted. This was kind of a code name and it kind of stuck.”
Again, if it officially just stood for “Big Falcon Rocket,” this probably wouldn’t be an issue. But regardless, Musk’s trademark geeky sense of humor remained.
“The only thing is, we’d like to name the first ship that goes to Mars after — Douglas Adams, my favorite spaceship — the Heart of Gold, from Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.”
As far off as the moon mission is, the Mars mission is even further, and Musk changes his mind on nearly everything — but this is one thing I can sense he’s committed to.
Via Devin Coldewey https://techcrunch.com
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