#callouts

[myfandomrealitea]

https://www.tumblr.com/myfandomrealitea/754159647278202880/im-proship-leaning-but-when-other-proshippers-say?source=share

I don't trust "documented evidence" as well, unless it's like in an official website or whatever. it's the mfing internet and people can edit or create fake messages or fake victims. hell, even with the new ai thingy they can create fake videos and pics. who gets to say these are real or not? I am saying this as a victim of fake callout posts who never got believed.

Modern cancel culture and the ability to just throw accusations around and be believed blindly have honestly ruined actual internet safety, accountability and being able to protect yourself and others from both false accusations and real dangerous people.

Its why I take issue with statements like "believe victims no matter what" and "support accusations until they're proven fake."

People have gone to jail for forty years and been proven innocent.

People have been murdered and their accusers have come forward to reveal they made the accusations up.

People have killed themselves over false accusations.

False accusations and blind witch hunting can ruin a person's life for literal decades.

It has absolutely nothing to do with proship vs antiship culture, even though the latter culture is in part what has exacerbated my stance. It has everything to do with the fact that practically weekly there's new news headlines about people milking a dead celebrity's estate with easily disproven claims, or bitter teenagers faking screenshots and falling over themselves to get internet sympathy because their boyfriend broke up with them.

I will always give victims a certain amount of benefit of doubt, but what I won't do is blindly launch a brigade against someone based on claims with no proof or flimsy proof with more holes in it than a festival tent.

[nothorses]

"It doesn't make sense to say "believe all survivors" if we don't also remember that most of us are survivors, which includes most people who cause harm. What we mean is we are tired of being silenced, dismissed, powerless in our pain, hurt over and over. Yes. But being loud is different from being whole, or even being heard, being cared for, being comforted, being healed. Being able to destroy is different from being able to generate a future where harm isn't happening all around us."

- Adrienne Maree Brown, We Will Not Cancel Us, and Other Dreams of Transformative Justice

[euniexenoblade]

I don’t mean this in a nasty way but I think some people who excessively make callout posts suffer from untreated moral OCD. There was this one popular blog who was notorious because they’d constantly make callouts when a user or piece of media became massively popular on this site in the mid-2010s to early 2020s while genuinely believing what they were doing was morally right and I saw they recently said this was the case back then.

As a person with OCD, I do not think that's the case. In the 2011-2014 era I ran in a group of trans people that consistently wrote call outs for others and eventually each other, it's about getting attention, starting drama, and the thrill of winning [what appears to be] a large scale feud. It brings new followers, it gives your writing further reach than expected, plus you get endless support. People who write callouts always end up with endless groups of people telling them how cool they are, how right they are, you're so right that person you hate I also hate. My disdain for callouts largely extends from this circle of people, and because a terf brained loser wrote a call out about me that consisted of "just trust me bro" that everyone took 100% seriously that lost me thousands of followers and the majority of the online friends I had. This call out is almost a decade old and people still believe it about me.

OCD makes it so I scrub my skin till I'm near bleeding, or I freak out if a room is not in an orderly enough fashion, it does not make you plunge yourself into Google docs with the intent of ruining someone's life.

[the-uncanny-dag]

Ok, I know we all hate callout posts, but don’t worry, gang, THESE posts whose function is to call someone out is different. THIS method of pillorizing people on the internet based on some aspect of their online conduct is fine, don’t panic. These ones are never gonna have fascist implications or come from personal vendettas, besties, I'm sure. This time it’s totally cool and fine to try and fix Tumblr's ecosystem by subjecting its users you & your mutuals never heard about to public humiliation and harassment. Believe me bro. These are GOOD callout posts. Trust me

[will-pilled]

PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HARASSMENT OF ANY KIND, PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT CALLOUT CULTURE, AND PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HATE MOBS PLEASE PISS OFF I DO NOT FUCK WITH YOU!!!!! YOU GUYS KINDA SUCK!!!!! ALSO PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CRINGE CULTURE OF ANY KIND!!!!! PLEASE FUCK OFF!!!!!!! THANKS!!!! (Not a DNI but I'll just block on sight if I see it lol.)

[kingfaggot]

sex ed is a transandrophobe

Anon you have no idea how incredibly unhelpful you are. But god fucking dammit I couldn’t put this down and wait. Bigotry sucks and I don’t wanna host that on my blog. So two words of advice:

Give a specific blog name. Give a link.

I will NEVER. listen blindly to callouts like this and these asks get me steamed as hell.

But after asking in a server I’m in, I figured out who you mean. So here’s the thing. I did figure out who, but just looking on my own, here’s the post I was able to find w tumblrs broken search function:

https://www.tumblr.com/certifiedsexed/765437493834399744/hi-sorry-if-im-missing-something-but-re

Looking at this post alone, my impression is that it’s a fucked up semantics argument. That this person is in the ballpark, but has a different way of going about it. It feels silly to me to argue about trans men and adjacent not being targeted for their transmasculinity, but rather trans from a masculine angle, but the spirit is there. I know what’s meant here.

Once I went to the server and actually got further context from here, THEN I understood what the hell you meant:

https://www.tumblr.com/gay-otlc/765281447984676864/a-popular-sex-ed-blog-has-decided-trans-men

I’m tearing you apart with my teeth anon. I’m going to sit further so I can calm down and think before I take any action. Their take on “Yes, you may be targeted using transmisogynistic language but you also still have power you can leverage over TMA people and you still do not have the burden of dealing with transmisogyny constantly knowing you are the target.” is something I don’t agree with, but the posts are largely good. They just look to me to be an imperfect ally.

So. Assuming I’m reading correctly what I’ve now found with assistance, I disagree that you have to be apart of a group to be affected by discrimination targeting them. Like. Say you’re in a chair next to someone else who’s a lot like you. And that person is being shot with arrows. The person shooting wants to hit people like that person sitting next to you. Those arrows can still hit you. Let’s say you’re in a stadium and now you have a lot of people who can get hit. Some are more aware of it than others, but that doesn’t change whether or not they can get hit. People aren’t gonna ask your pronouns or background before committing a hate crime.

And that’s ignoring the fact that transandrophobia exists. Bring that into the equation and we’re gonna need a better way to handle those arrows than trying to protect that one person and so on.

My instinct is to say that their comparison of tme/tma to nonBlack is too narrow to fully communicate the issue, but that’s how language goes. The issue of the belief of those “unaffected” having power over those affected. Like I can use my same example from before. The person being targeted is now Black and those nearby are people who are similar. Doesn’t mean those around said person go unharmed.

Certifiedsexed, as far as I can see, isn’t saying that we aren’t targeted for being trans and identifying with masculinity, but seems to have a different angle on how to address it. which I’m not going to say they’re wholly wrong, but that it just doesn’t strike me as the most effective way to use our time on this planet. Which is my personal opinion.

Like does it matter if misandry exists if trans men and adjacent are attacked for being trans and identifying with masculinity? Not really. Would certifiedsexed stand with us in our struggles to be seen and taken seriously? I’m not sure that’s a solid no. I think certifiedsexed shares really good posts surrounding bodily autonomy, awareness, and self-empowerment. Maybe just cares a tad more about not using words than can also be dogwhistles. Compound words aren’t the same as the two separate words. That’s why they’re compounded. Me talking about transmisandry isn’t the same as using misandry as a dogwhistle. But to them, that doesn’t matter and it’s preferred to use a different term.

I think my conclusion is that I’m going to put their blog name into my filter so I can choose case-by-case which posts I wanna reblog, but that’s kinda just a wise thing to do in the first place, to think about what you post. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to be more mindful, anon. I’m still gonna spend more time thinking here.

P.S. this goes to anyone wishing to call out others. Include the actual name and context. I’m not a fucking sheep.

[pet-shop-of-horror-fan]

The people who are truly anti-callouts rarely exist, at least on Tumblr.

Many will say they are anti-callouts, that no one could ever deserve it, that it's cancel culture, that it is harassment, that no one ever does their research, that evidence can be doctored, and so on...

But most of them will turn around and give receipts on how horrible the people giving the callout are, with more than enough running actual harassment campaigns.

Tumblr will forgive anything, except giving callouts, unless of course the person getting the callout did one first, then it's justice.

When I first found the All-Callouts-Bad crowd, I thought they were just enablers because it's easier than putting in the work to see if the callouts are right or not. But many of them will put in work so most of them are not lazily defending the status quo, they are aggressively defending it.

[trollcallout]

Callout post for GrumB)lr user weeklyhorrorscope, aka Chittr user horrorscopicPrecision.

We all know WH / HP, real name Deidre, from her popular horrorscope posts (and the B)rawl that got posted to Tricktok), B)ut I B)elieve there may B)e something more sinister B)ehind her persona.

HP has B)een following Chittr user astronomicTerror for several perigees now, long after they stopped posting horrorscope hoofB)eastshit and started posting music critiques aB)out our glorious Empress. Pictured B)elow are some of AT's cheets, so you know what I'm talking aB)out. She claims to B)e a B)ig fan of )(IC's music, B)ut doesn't even take the time out of her night to reply to these cheets, report them, or at the very least B)lock the account.

On her GrumB)lr account, she also claims to make "weekly" horrorscope posts, B)ut hasn't held up to that promise in many wipes.

Altogether, HP is a lying fraud who doesn't keep her promises. Is she really the kind of troll you want to B)e following?

[tfem-confessions]

I live in fear of someone starting some kind of campaign against me. It makes no sense whatsoever. I'm not into discourse, I have no real skeletons, I do my best to avoid conflict etc, but with the nature of trans discourse these days I feel like I'm going to get dragged in somehow.

Its unlikely to actually happen.

But every time I get a notification I freeze hoping I'm not being tagged in some kind of callout post. Its unhealthy.

I'm not sure if you're asking for advice, affirmation or just venting but i hear all three.

This website is ridiculously hostile to transfems these days and callouts have always been a problem for us so its understandable to be worried about them (hell I use a fake name)

But if you want advice, might I suggest joining an irl trans space? If thats possible of course, I know not everyone has the chance. I could help you work through this fear, and possibly even get rid of the anxiety.

I do hope it gets better for you darling, and I want you to know you're not alone!

[angelprickandholysemen]

ppl who dig into transfem's private sex lives to find icky kinks to "expose" as indication of being a sexual predator are the queer moral economy version of trade and/or johns

[hulk-]

Stop! Before you reblog that post that made you angry, ask yourself: could it be a rage farming or smear campaign post? Is it possible the OP is trying to mislead you into responding angrily and immediately, to get likes and reblogs from you?

Is the content really that bad?

Are there other explanations for the content besides "the target did it intentionally"?

Is it possible the target made an honest mistake that is being magnified?

Did anyone try to discuss the problem with the target in good faith first?

Could you attribute ignorance to the target's actions, even if the post attributes it to malice?

Is it possible the poster saw something they personally dislike, or has beef with the target, and wants to retaliate using a mob?

Is it possible the poster is bored and wants engagement, and knows outrage culture is the best way to get it?

Is the post worth spreading even if you're risking ruining an innocent person's reputation?

Is there a source for the claims? Are you sure that's a valid source? Is there an implicit bias in the source? If there are screen captures, did you actually read the screen captures too, not just the post text? Are the screen captures doctored? Have you checked this for yourself? Is there an agenda being pushed by the poster?

And, what prompted the post in the first place?

[roonienoonie]

No one else has made something like this so im going ahead:

Reblog this if you will NOT give a platform to callout culture and refuse to let it hurt innocent and/or marginalized people anymore.

[coulsonlives]

Just gonna say it: namedropping someone in a callout, then telling people 'not to harass them', is like dropping a lump of meat into a group of hungry dogs and saying 'don't eat the meat or stare longingly at it'

It's just empty, 'my intentions are good i prommy uwu' lip service to mask the actual intention of the callout: which is either to ostracize someone, actively harass em via proxy, or both

[shmitz]

Reminder that the *surest* way to create a toxic community that protects abuse and harassment is to have a policy or social atmosphere that silences anyone trying to publicly identify problem individuals or groups. "We don't want witch hunts" is a giant red flag and I will not put myself in any space where that's the rule.

The 'witch hunt' is something that happens when someone with *clout* points a finger. Abusers, at least ones with more than one brain cell, don't target them. They act against people who are more isolated, have fewer friends, and are less able to retaliate in any meaningful way. A public callout may be the only thing the victim has available to them. Take that away and, well, this is one way you can drive people to suicide.

[friendbreakfast]

i know this has been said a LOT but can we

can we like,

can we CRITICIZE PEOPLE WITHOUT MENTIONING THEIR LOOKS?

PLEASE??

CAN WE DO THAT?? THERE'S SO MANY FUCKING AWFUL PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THAT DO AWFUL STUFF AND JUST HAPPEN TO LOOK LIKE SO MANY NICE PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T. WHEN YOU INSULT THEIR LOOKS, SPECIFICALLY, YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH SAYING THE PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO LOOK LIKE THEM ARE JUST AS BAD.

I KEEP SEEING THIS. I KEEP SEEING DUMBASS RAGGING ON PEOPLE'S APPEARANCE IN RESPONSE TO REAL CALLOUTS OF AWFUL BEHAVIOUR AND IT NEVER STOPS. NOBODY SEEMS TO LEARN

I AM SO FUCKING TIRED OF THIS. PLEASE STOP