#bylers for milkvans

[thefandombringer]

WE COULD JUST MAKE TWO SEPARATE BLOGS. THEY NEED A LOT OF HELP. BYLERS FOR MILKVANS.

true but what do we posttt

[teambyler]

Questions to ask if ever you have Byler doubt:

Do people seriously think that a show centered on nerds and social outcasts...

... shows how awful the popular kids can be...

... villainizes anti-gay bullies...

... sides against abusers...

... supports LGBT+ people...

... has interracial romance...

... says to embrace being different...

... turns an expected hetero romance into a beautiful platonic friendship...

... criticizes moral panic/evangelism...

... makes the "town freak" a hero...

... shows that love can overcome hate...

... and whose characters don't want to recreate the nuclear family...

... do we really think that show will let a gay boy's love be the device for a conventional white hetero couple to be the show's "main relationship"?

Has the show even set-up Mike and El, who met through trauma and circumstance while they were children and have repeatedly lied to each other, for a lifelong commitment?

Who's actually delusional?

And who sees this show for what it is? And what it's clearly setting up?

-teambyler

[nobodyinourstars]

STOPPPP😭😭😭😭😭

[love-byers]

mike lying vs mike telling the truth

"You think I'm a monster too."

*high pitched, animated facial expression* "What?!"

vs

"What about us?"

*firm, but quiet. solid eye contact* "What?"

"Yesterday. The way you looked at me. . .you were scared of me."

*head shaking, rapid blinking* "No, no- *scoffs* that's not- that's- that's not true."

vs

"What, you're mad that I didn't talk to you? Seems like you've made it super clear you're not interested in anything I have to say."

*firm, solid eye contact, no stuttering* "That's just not true."

i still can't believe people called finn a bad actor because of this

FINN WOLFHARD??? BAD ACTOR???? PUH LEEZ

MIKE is a bad actor, not finn

[gayofthefae]

"Mike and Nancy can't say I love you because of their parents," so close, Mike and Nancy can't say I love you in relationships that resemble their parents'.

[samcats]

Snowball scene

Something that’s always confused me about the snowball scene is this clip

We know this clip starts with Lucas asking Max out to dance. Then a girl(who I’ll call Lisa for my sake) asks Will out to dance. Nothing out of the ordinary, right?

Well, not really. It is very important to take notice of how this scene is framed/filmed:

Incase you didn’t pick up on it, this clip is filmed from Mike’s POV.

When Will walks off we see Mike watching him. Giving us the impression that this is from Mike’s point of view. It then switches to Will and Lisa dancing, with Lucas and Max in the background. And, again, we assume that this is being filmed from Mike’s perspective and that he’s watching Will.

But then, I shit you not, it switches to this:

Dustin & Mike.

Dustin is watching Lucas and Max dancing. And this makes sense because we know that Dustin has a crush on Max and is sad that he didn’t get to dance with her instead.

But what I find interesting is Mike being there in background with the same expression on his face as Dustin. And keep in mind, the scene right before this was shot from Mikes perspective.

Dustin has a crush on Max. Lucas asks Max out to dance. Dustin watches them dance together looking sad. This is canon.

Mike is friends with Will. Lisa asks Will out to dance. Mike watches them walk away and looks off at them sadly. This is also canon.

If Will was a girl everybody would’ve perceived this scene romantically. And I know this for a fact because both Dustin and Mike have the exact same thing happening to them.

Max/Will being asked to dance by Lucas/Lisa. Dustin/Mike then watch them sadly. Again, they’re both the exact same thing. So what makes one less romantic then the other??

[heyyitsmoss]

the triple take is so funny

[queermikewheelertruther]

“You only hate Mileven bc it’s straight!”

Not quite!! Maybe if Milkvan was as good as this top tier, adorable, romantic, genuine, authentic, passionate, and likable relationship these two have I would actually enjoy it.

[coventhewise]

canon (+ almost canon) couples and light glowing between them

—jancy

—lumax

—jopper

—rovickie

—byler

[upsidedownlurker]

GUYS GUYS GUYS!!!!! I totally just figured out the lip-sync leak!!!1! Mike and Eleven have a very deep and romantic conversation together, and they completely debunk byler!!! so cute and slay <3

[Turn your sound on I promise it's better]

...

inspired by @will80sbyers lovely twilight interpretation :D

[scroofy-was-here]

went to check out the st reddit 😭😭😭

umm WHAT?????

hey guys, are all of us bylers straight gen z girls???? AM I a straight gen z girl????? are most of us bylers little kids who are overly obsessed weirdos????

BREAKING NEWS: stranger things redditors can't fathom the fact that queer people like queer ships as well as representation and bylers can come in different ages and sexualities!!! 😱😱😱

[thefandombringer]

the best part about my (new) mileven blog is that i mean everything i say but in platonic elmike ways 😭🤚🏼

[thefirstlioveyou]

i physically cannot see them romantically no matter what. like they can be making out and it’s still literally just a gay guy and his girl best friend

[nobodyinourstars]

Who the hell is cutting onions????😭😭😭😭

[love-byers]

it's them

[hnbka]

"stop romanticizing male friendships" oh, did we do that? i thought the writers did when they made will in love with mike but idk