#but... i cba to proper meta
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and iâm still vaguely obsessed with how the masterâs veneration of 13 after he learned about the timeless child is what caused him to lose sight of the fact that the doctor is a person.Â
Because The Master has always seen the Doctor as the only other worthy being. Always cared in their own way about the doctor as a Person beyond the fact that theyâre time lords (they think time lords are superior, but they rank the both of them above their species even then).Â
and suddenly he sees the doctor as this figure to be put on a pedestal for their genetic superiority, and Them Alone. And the master loses sight of the fact that the doctor is somebody theyâve always cared about. Suddenly his conception of them as a being has to do with nothing but their body instead of their mind, hence the bodysnatching to âbecomeâ the doctor. Hence why he begs not to be put back in his own body, begs not to go back to being him. He still sees the Doctor as a body and not a person.Â
and itâs very much pointing out the dangers of idolisation. The inherent depersonalisation of veneration. The master began idolising the doctor as a being with a genetic ability, and then as a result of this no longer viewed them as a Person and it gets worse and worse over time.Â
To idolize is not to love. It is to dehumanize.Â
#dw shit#it's a fun angle to poke at imo!!!!#because i live in fandom#i see people treat and have terrible sentiment towards people they idolize every damn day#and they wouldn't be doing it if they. did not idolize.#(i mean actual real celebs they like. from afar it (probably) has no effect on their idol/victim but it Could)#and all the same having no Clue they are behaving in ways that are fucked up to just blandly disrespectful to another person#it's further interesting in context of chibbs seeming to have an axe to grind at people using religion#nefariously for their own self gain#but... i cba to proper meta#dw meta
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i think we can all agree that itâs not gonna be as simple as âarthur gets his daughter back, john and arthur get to live separatelyâ right? but what if it was? (well not quite but hear me out)
kayne has shown that heâs able to interact with faroe in other timelines, and also transport people (john and arthur atleast) between those timelines, but would he really be capable of creating a whole new faroe for arthur even if he is telling the truth? or of giving john his own body? i donât think so.
i reckon that, for kayne to bring back faroe in the âmiddle câ universe, heâd have to take her out of another timeline, which would cause all sorts of problems elswhere. (although tbh i wouldnât put it past kayne. he doesnât seem all that bothered as to what effects his actions have on other timelines). even if arthur got faroe back, would he just be forced to let her go/have her taken away from him because of some interdimentional reasons beyond his control?
also, whatâs so special about the arthur in our timeline? i mean, kayne is most likely not even from the âmiddle câ timeline, and the whole âdarkthurâ thing shows heâs been following whatâs been going on in the other timelines. whoâs to say heâs not been making empty promises to every other arthur and john? AND IF HE HAS WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN (does he need the same thing from multiple timelines?? tbh i donât think this point is particularly likely, but just putting it out there)
and as for john getting his own body - he wouldnât be getting his own back. unless kayne is planning on reuniting him with the king in yellow, where the hell would he be getting that body from? would it be human? would it not? (OR HE COULD JUST PUT HIM IN PARKERS DEAD BODY SSJSJDJGJKFJGG)
the promises he made them are really vague which makes me think heâs definitely not giving them the full picture of the deal theyâre making (i mean considering itâs kayne weâre talking about i guess that was a given but still).
also i get that, considering the threats that kayne has made, they donât have much of a choice but to do what heâs told them to, but what about the repercussions of giving kayne what he wants? itâs clearly not gonna be anything good, and now i come to think of it we know next to nothing about his actual motives. so far heâs pretty much just showed up, killed people, and caused problems.
iâm gonna be real i wasnât paying that much attention at this point in the episode so i canât actually remember exactly what he wanted arthur and john to get, but considering the threats he made to make sure they didnât have any option but to do what he wanted, itâs gotta be really important to him.
and tbh, iâve got a feeling kayne is working for someone, or atleast being made to do this. he went to some pretty big lengths to prove to john and arthur not only how much power he had, but to make it clear what he was willing to do with that power. i donât actually have much evidence to back this point up tbh but IVE GOT A FEELING ABOUT IT OK
and also why does he need arthur to do it? is it arthur specifically that he needs for whatever reason? i mean that would make sense, why else would kayne be forcing him to do it, and why else would he have gotten john to try and make arthur get that stone (was that what it was? again, iâm bad at following for the whole hour) in new york.
but has he made them do whatever it is because he knows something will happen? has he made all those promises to john and arthur knowing it wonât matter either way because they arenât going to make it back?
tldr, even if kayne were to give john and arthur what he said he would, thereâs no way it would be as simple as he says it is
(wow, didnât expect this post to go on for so long, well done for reading if you got up to here, have an unrelated doodle i drew in my physics book below the cut and go drink some water or something)
(his name is jumbo!)
#malevolent#malevolent podcast#kayne malevolent#john malevolent#arthur lester#faroe lester#long post#malevolent meta#excuse my spelling cba correcting it#malevolent spoilers#like i said i didnât pay proper attention to the whole episode so do let me know if thereâs any incorrect information in there#wrote this whole thing while listening to hamilton soundtrack lol#txt
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successionâs over-the-top writing is so great because only one of these two quotes is a metaphor
#shiv telling him 'you're reading documents' made me snort#got a little meta there#there were many other examples but i picked the ken one just for shiv's line#anyways sorry these r pics of my laptop i just cba to find a link to take proper screenshots lmao#succession spoilers
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okay. im updating lou's story bc the dc hyperfixation is coming back!
Lou Sawyer's parents were 16 when they had Lou and Saoirse!!!! L and S (bc i cba) were identical twin girls, born to Jackie Sawyer (gotham born and raised) and Frank Mcintosh (an irish immigrant) Jackie and Frank met at a party shortly after Frank moved to america, and jackie fell in love bc.... hes a man w an accent, what was she supposed to do? they got together, and jackie got pregnant like. 4 months into dating.
both were immediately like 'FUCK NO' and broke up, jackie told her parents who made her carry the kids to term, but forced her to leave them at a local hospital :( (i hc gotham has the safe haven law) they were brought into foster care after being checked over, and was taken in by a decent (but SUPER RELIGIOUS) couple, but when the twins were interview one day, their social worker noticed they had... alot of extremist ideas? but bc that wasn't physically harming the kids, they were left there. (The foster parents were called Christine Ann Marie Wicklow and Kyle Wicklow, but thats not important to the story)
L and S were raised there, and adopted when they were 4! (fun fact, they were named by another irish immigrant who worked as a nurse in their local hospital, who became attached to the twins after losing her own a few months prior. just wanted to add that.)
They were raised in the Catholic church, and went to mass every sunday, went to a PROPER catholic school and everything. both twins internalised A LOT of harmful ideas, especially about gender and sexuality (the twins are also half brazilian, and inherited their mums tan skin which lead to some... comments from church goers.)
they grew up pretty normal- living in a rough part of the Narrows, but making friends with the neighbours! Mainly Cain, and older kid with a large burn scar on one side of his face, and Oscar, a little kid who was born blind. They all stuck together and had a very sibling like relationship.
When L and S were 13, they were hanging around an alley doing homework fairly late at night. They were minding their business when a random came up to them and started talking to them- the twins thought he was weird, and ignored him, but he eventually grabbed Lou's arm, and tried getting Lou to come with him.
Saoirse jumped into action and started yelling "Hey! Get your hands off her!" The guy looked startled and looked around, before grabbing Lou and trying to DRAG him away- Lou screamed.
Eventually the guy pulled a knife and slashed Lou's mouth- leaving him with his signature scar. Saoirse jumped the guy, pulling Lou away and trying to attack the guy- who ended up stabbing Saoirse to death.
The guy ran away and Lou was left cradling his sister's dead body, he kept trying to stop the bleeding, and when he felt the warmth slowly leave her body, he screamed.
Eventually, someone heard and called an ambulance. When the paramedics tried to bring Lou away, he kept crying and screaming that his sister was alive- that he knew it. But she was pronounced DOA. Lou was brought to the same hospital he was abandoned at, and went through extensive surgery. (also fun fact, the same nurse that named him ended up taking care of him while in a medically induced coma)
While Lou was recovering physically and mentally, he started acting out pretty severally- stealing, fighting, ect- and his adopted parents decided to leave him in the state's care again, claiming he 'was marked by the devil' and pretty heavily blamed him for his sister's death.
Around this time, Lou's meta powers started showing up. He started mimicking his parents voices, and once shifted his face into his father's mid fight. This was another reason he was abandoned again.
After being back in foster care, Lou kept running away, transitioned (ftm), changed his name, and eventually joined as a low-level member of Two-face's crew. He hid his age and name, pretending to be 18 and some guy named Frank Sawyer (in reference to his bio parents.)
Eventually, he rose through the ranks, and slowly people realised... maybe this guy aint actually 18.
Two-face saw this ambitious kid and was like "... fuck.... i gotta take him under my wing..."
What started as a mentorship, became a familial relationship. Two-face understood Lou's anger and guilt, and turned it into something productive- crime.
After Two-face unofficially adopted Lou, he brought in Cain and Oscar and took them under his wing too. In order of age (oldest to youngest), it's Cain, Lou, then Oscar. Lou became Poser, a shapeshifter (which included being able to mimic someone's powers for a short amount of time), Cain became Abel, just a regular human, and Oscar became Echo, with powers similar to Black Canary (but when he screams he's able to see anything- through walls, heat signatures, ect.)
all in all, they're a big happy family who do crime together!
Two-face and Bruce eventually reconcile, and they agree to lay off all the murder. Lou joins the outlaws with Red Hood, Arsenal, and Starfire. Cain and Oscar still work together, and Lou helps out on occasion.
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