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I think bombeep is a cute ship, i want to see more cute bombeep art cause they're so cute! ^w^
lol dude same! they are delightful and I too would love to see more art of them, though given that I'm mostly the only one who still doodles them occasionally nowadays I have only myself to blame when there isn't any new stuff to see I guess lol. but I will try to produce more soon hopefully ok cool
#sorry for slight mini ramble ha#but yes I agree lol#they are delightful and still brings me great joy yessir#and I'm glad they bring other people joy sometimes aswell heck ye#thanks for the message#stay groovy friendo
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We're becoming some kind of team, huh?
#doctor odyssey#joshua jackson#phillipa soo#sean teale#max bankman#avery morgan#tristan silva#i wish this wasnt directly after 911#i can never watch it live lol#but anyway everyone agrees these 3 should just be together yes?#i like her with both so im good either way lol#mystuff
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How do I explain to people that not only is my gender lesbian, it's specifically Femme Lesbian. I am a Femme though and through, and I was put on this earth to do exactly that. I'm not a woman, I'm Femme.
#And yes that's with a capital F#F for I love to FUCK my masc#hehe :3#reblog if u agree#Or don't#(pls do)#(I'm curious if I'm alone on this one lol)#lesbian#wlw post#this post is about lesbians#lesbian culture#femme lesbian#femme4masc#femme4butch#Femme
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bring on the night i couldn't stand another hour of daylight!
#undertale#sans#he's stargazing....#i drew this and then. i wanted to post the overly-long out-of-character comic i did with it. but it looked so clunky. because it's 5 images#so i'm gonna post them separately but like. now i feel like i waited a month to post this for no reason LOL#and i feel like it doesn't look as good as way i draw him now. but WHATEVER who CARES it's OK#and now i'm embarrassed because i'm like augh this sans is kind of Old.... for both this and the comic thing. but anyways#i don't get nearly as much use out of my telescope as i could like to. so i give it to Sans from Undertale#also YES bring on the night by the police is a sans song. you agree.
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I find it funny that for 2+ years Hades game fans speculated why Apollo wasn't in the game and the most popular theory was that he didn't want any drama with Achilles (some even saying that he'd be scared of Achilles) but turns out that he just. didn't give a fuck about Hades' family.
#Hades 2#I never understood people who thought Apollo would be afraid of Achilles#like?? what is there to be afraid of lmaooo#Apollo would kill Achilles for the second time in a heart beat if given the chance#Also ik Supergiant has taken liberties that i don't like or agree with#but god the Hestia characterisation đ€#like yes#out with the all time nice and sweet aunty hestia bestia#she's mean and a petty hater but with a caring side and I love it#also I was kinda getting scared that they'd make Apollo too nice and sweet#but no lol#that haughty nature is still there <3#I'm a bit worried of how they'll handle Artemis - Apollo though#it hasn't been very assuring so far ajdkdk#mine
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âPeople are writing thisâ âPeople are writing thatâ Actually letâs talk about what people ARENâT writing because weâre like 6 episodes into Judgement and I havenât found a single fic for it on AO3. Itâs been around since mid October and not a single fic. Why is there no love for Judgement
#jrwi#just roll with it#jrwi show#jrwi judgement#the only reason why I have any stake in the fic discourse is because I agree with the notion that we should be writing more JRWI fics#not for any moral reasons but just because thereâs so many cool things and characters to explore#I want to see what cool things people can make#I love fanfic I love fandom I love all the wonderful people within it#and while yes I wish I wouldnât get jumpscared on occasion by some of the weirder stuff when checking fandom tags on AO3#end of day I scroll past or filter out or mute/block if itâs real bad#but I love people writing fanfics!! we should do more of it!!#and I desperately need someone to write something for Judgement because I donât have the time and energy to do it myself#anyways Iâm not going to speak any more on the fic discourse cuz I got midterms lol#please just someone write a Judgement fic and share it with me when youâre done ok thanks in advance :]
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Something that kills me is how Bell in almost every case seems to hesitate when faced with killing Adler despite the fact they should want to. Yes they can and will kill him, but in most endings itâs not something they seem to jump at the chance to do. Of course theres the lighter in the duga ending and how Bell will indulge him. Bell can also simply not call an ambush even if they unlock the back room which could be interpreted as not wanting to kill Adler/hesitation.Â
What i barely see anyone mention really is how debatably they do hesitate on solovetsky too. In my opinion, they had to at the very least have been suspicious that Adler would try something. especially towards the end of his speech. Yet they donât raise their gun until Adler raises his. Secondly, also in my opinion Bell had a shot lined up just barely before Adler did, yet it seems like they didnât even shoot.Â
This contrasted with how Adler is so ready to kill Bell no matter what really just reinforces their relationship. Adler is not attached to Bell. it certainly seems more personal than he wants to admit, but heâs not attached even if he does ârespectâ Bell enough to give them a decent death in Solovetsky. However Adler knows Bell is attached to him whether they like it or not and uses that to his advantage which is why he does half the things he does.Â
#When i say respect take that with a grain of salt theres a reason its in quotes#Adler respects Bell in the same way you respect a K-9 unit or something. Yes theres a level of respectâbut not the same as an equal human#Adler does not see Bell as an equalâas been established by many people including myself Bell is treated as#Inherently less than by everyone- especially Adler and theres very little debating that#Also adding onto hesitating in solovetsky you could argue the entire choice of it was hesitation#Did they really agree with that side? Was that choice their own? Or were they pressured by several factors that could include knowing#Siding with Perseus would likely end in Adlerâs death#Thats a bit of a Stretch but i felt like adding itâif you squint you could imagine it#bell cod#bocw#cod bell#cod cold war#cod cw#black ops cold war#call of duty cold war#I have been so sick lately and can barely think i hope this doesnât sound stupid or incoherent lol#Has someone talked about this exact thing before? I would be surprised if not but i personally havent seen it sooo oh well
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I started reading beastars so now HE's reading beastars .wait
THEY'RE reading beastars
#nobody gets a prize for correctly guessing which character yakumo relates to most#when the anime first came out and everybody hopped on the hype train#i scratched my chin thoughtfully and wondered.... would i like this? it seems like i would like this. should i watch it?#and all my friends around me said 'nah you'll probably hate it. it's really sad'#so i trusted them and ignored beastars the whole time. until now. when i saw the entire series at my LOCAL LIBRARY!!!!#so of course the curiosity wins out and i start reading it and i REALLY LIKE IT?? WTF WERE MY FRIENDS ON ABOUT?#this is sad yes but most of the time it's FUNNY? and also ANIMALS R COOL? bruh. i can't trust my friends' opinions of me anymore#anyway. due to the nature of my current nuca fixation timing. i kept thinking of it while reading#drawing parallels that may only exist in my mind LOL#i can imagine yaku being a freak over legoshi and his quest to become strong but not falling to his instincts and etc.etc.#yakugaru having a manga reading session in either o their bedrooms... lying on the floor engrossed in beastly tales...#these two would absolutely have a debate about which chara is most similar to eiden#to yaku it is obvs haru but i feel like garu would see eiden in a less.... prey sort of way#or maybe they'd agree on the haru comparison!! but yaku might hesitate to voice the 'mr eiden... has to be protected...' thoughts#and garu would proudly proclaim how eiden and haru share traits like bravery/outgoingness/super cool and go-getter/wise and worldly???#i kept staring down louis like.... you're some mix of dante and edmond... and something else....#UGH i like all the characters... they all have their charms.... they are all such creatures#honestly yahya the entire time was just relatable content and after seeing the way he lived out the rest of his life *chef's kiss* GOALS#nu carnival yakumo#nu carnival garu
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It pains me to see people calling Beetlejuice the worst of the worst things/him being a creepo whenever they talk about his relationship with Lydia in the original movie.
Lydia is like the one female character in the film that Beetlejuice doesnât outwardly objectify. He kisses Barbara, he winds himself in snake form between Deliaâs legs, he gropes that lady in the waiting room⊠if anything, heâs incredibly non-sexual towards Lydia. He does mention feeling âanxiousâ after mentioning âEdgar Allen Poeâs daughterâ to Barbara, but in the context of the movie I always chalked it up less to him being sexually attracted to Lydia and more to the adrenaline rush he got after waiting so long to finally scare some humans⊠that energyâs gotta go somewhere! đ
Even in the scene where he meets Lydia, heâs initially illuminated with the red light of the Inferno Room, but one he uncovers his eyes and leans forward to look at her, the light becomes white. I feel that itâs a clear indication that heâs not interested in her in that way. Itâs deeper than that. I think heâs just interested in the fact that sheâs a living being so in tune with the dead that she can see him without him having to be summoned, and heâs completely infatuated with that. Smitten, even.
You could also argue that his âmarriageâ towards her isnât to get into her pants but is instead a two fold thing: to get him out of the world of the dead but to allow her to enter the world of the dead. Because she wanted it! She told him so earlier in the film! Heâs basically granting her wish (in the spookiest way possible that also benefits him, but still). Like, yeah, okay, the Maitlands rightly save Lydia from the marriage and sheâs better off for it, but I think in a weird twisted way, Beetlejuice at that point is endeared to her. If the sequel indicates anything, he straightens himself out, starts a business, perhaps even helps with Lydiaâs show⊠he becomes soft because of her.
Iâm sure the Maitlands reinforced just how terrible Beetlejuice was to Lydia as she grew up around them, but I wonder if, with her adult eyes, and if there was a third movie (which there should be UGH TIM you and your cliffhanger!) she could understand how truly special he thinks she is. Itâs just so clear to me and I donât know how it isnât that way to others.
#this is poorly written and I didnât really proofread it so sorrryyyy#but yes these are my opinions and feel free to agree or disagree#beetlejuice#lydia deetz#beetlebabes#justâŠ.. thoughts lol
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time travel mechanics in link click â intentional inconsistencies? closed loops and parallel timelines (theory)
Back in 2021 or so, I wanted to make a post about the time travel mechanics in Season 1, and how they seemed to be inconsistent in certain episodes. I never ended up making that post, and the idea slowly faded from my mind, but I want to make that post now (armed with all the new information we've received since then) before Bridon/Yingdu arc episode 4 comes out because of the episode preview when Lu Guang says this:
In Season 1, the time travel seems to operate on the principle of a closed loop. This is especially evident in the Doudou arc, when Cheng Xiaoshi sees himself in the past (while he's in Doudou's body) and realizes that he was always there; the "changes" he inflicted weren't really changes, because by the time he dives back from the future his actions in the past have already happened. This is also demonstrated when Xu Shanshan walks into the photo studio and interacts with Cheng Xiaoshi in S1E8, and we later find out that it was in fact Cheng Xiaoshi in Xu Shanshan's body interacting with himself. And again, with the ploy to use Xu Shanshan in order to lure Liu Min/Red Eyes to the photo studio. We also see this closed loop phenomenon happen in Season 2, for example when Cheng Xiaoshi possesses Lu Guang's body to go save himself in the past.
So I've always been a little bothered by the earthquake arc in Season 1. If the dives into the past have already happened, why does Chen Xiao come to the photo studio in the first place? If Cheng Xiaoshi (in Chen Xiao's body) won the basketball game and gave those kind words to Chen Xiao's loved ones, why does Chen Xiao remember otherwise?
I've wondered before what happens to the clients when Cheng Xiaoshi is possessing themâdo they just not remember anything? Are they even aware of themselves being possessed? Why is no one concerned about missing memories for hours at a time or not being in control of their own body? Emma sort of skirts around this when she tells Cheng Xiaoshi, "So you were the one who sent that message" in S1E11, implying she's aware it wasn't her who sent it. For the sake of argument, though, I'm going to pass the general non-reaction of the clients to being possessed as a handwavey "the brain justifies it somehow later" thing and ignore it.**
That brings us again to the question: Why does Chen Xiao remember the past differently to the one Cheng Xiaoshi experienced/changed? Maybe the past isn't set in stone after all? Maybe, instead of just being a closed loop, the time travel in Link Click is operating on multiple systems?
In 2021, right after I watched Season 1, I was going to dismiss this as just an error. The writers slipped up and bungled their time travel mechanics a bit, and therefore the earthquake arc is different on accident. But we've learned since then that nothing is unintentional in this show, so why is that arc different from the others? (Also, I want to note, there is that moment in S1E4 where Lu Guang's face does that weird warping thing; coincidence? Maybe, but maybe not...)
My theory is: the time travel abilities that Cheng Xiaoshi and Lu Guang have operate differently.
DISCLAIMER: My knowledge of photography and film is extremely limited, so please correct me if I'm wrong.
There's always been a lot of film imagery in this showâobviously, since the whole premise is based in photographyâbut as early as the Season 1 OP, "Dive Back In Time," we can see the repeated use of rewinding film rolls as a metaphor for going back in time.
Note also: Lu Guang dropping the photo and it transitioning into a film roll, and Cheng Xiaoshi being tangled up in film rolls and being "inside" the film in the background/trapped in the frame. I'll get to this later.
The thing is, once you record something on film, you can't change it; you can only rewind and play it again. This tracks with the closed loop theory: no real changes can be made, because they have already happened. So how is it possible that "changes are still happening," as Lu Guang says in the YE4 preview? It's likely that Vein (and Liu Xiao and Xia Fei) are involved, but I don't believe that's the root of the issue. And, I don't think it's just the ever-nebulous "butterfly effect," because in YE1 Lu Guang says this:
I used to think that even a flap of a butterfly might cause a hurricane strong enough to ruin the world. I was wrong. The power of time is still far beyond our imagination. The future may not change due to a ripple of the past. Not at all...
(Yes, Lu Guang is a notoriously unreliable narrator, but I've decided to trust him on this one. Not to mention, butterfly effect shouldn't exist in a closed loop system.)
I've seen lots of excellent analyses illustrating the discrepancies this season, from the very first scene of YE1 (different furniture positioning, cracks in photo frame glass, bloodstains, presence of curtain, etc) to the changing positions of clothing, buildings, time of day, food, and so on in YE2 (go check out hyperfaexation's excellent YouTube video on their Shattered Memories theory for more details). The fandom is constantly theorizing about how many timelines there are. But while we've been asking ourselves how many timelines exist (five, ten, more?), we forgot to stop and ask: why do they exist?
The existence of multiple timelines doesn't fit into Season 1's time travel premise. In Season 1, it was always Cheng Xiaoshi that we were watching. Whereas Cheng Xiaoshi could be said to live "in" the film when he dives, perhaps Lu Guang is cutting the roll short at the point which he dives back to and splicing a new roll onto it. This could explain the scene from "Dive Back In Time" that I referenced earlier, with Lu Guang outside the film and Cheng Xiaoshi in it. It's not exactly that Lu Guang is diving back in time; it's more like he's diving out of time, into a parallel timeline and leaving this one behind. Maybe this season, we'll get to see more complicated time travel mechanics that result from the intersection of different powers. (And, while we're at it, maybe we can get an answer to why Cheng Xiaoshi has golden eyes for a few frames in YE1 when they're running away, because seriously what's up with that?)
**Another explanation for the non-reaction to the clients' possession could be the interaction of different timelines, but I'm not really sure how this would pan out so I'm not going to elaborate too much.
What does this have to do with the earthquake arc? Why would Lu Guang have a (slightly) different power than Cheng Xiaoshi, if he inherited it from Cheng Xiaoshi as we are led to believe? What happens to the discarded film, the abandoned timelines, when Lu Guang casts them away? Can Cheng Xiaoshi ever be saved? I don't have answers to any of these questions, and maybe I'm overthinking (ha) all of this and it really is just a writing inconsistency after all, but I want to believe Link Click's writers know what they're doing with this and all we can do is wait for the reveal.
#link click#shiguang dailiren#shiguang daili ren#link click lu guang#lu guang#link click cheng xiaoshi#cheng xiaoshi#link click meta#link click bridon arc#link click yingdu chapter#lmk what yall think of this theory!! do u agree? have evidence pointing in the other direction? im so curious#i also dont remember s2 well so i could be missing something huge in which case pls tell me#totally possible theres absolutely nothing to this theory im very sleepy rn#also possible that YE4 will destroy this theory when it airs#idk! cant wait to find out#crack theory: chen xiao is from a different timeline LOL#but seriously its bothered me for so long#as for whether or not cxs can be saved: i think yes based solely on the fact that lg's power isn't operating on the closed loop system#by the way dive back in time is full of tiny details im planning to make a whole nother post about so stay tuned i guess#sgdlr
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Does Hed help Les with grooming his back?
This is a really old ask about this post. And the answer is yes, definitely!
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I ended up drawing them back in their room in Vibe City because I've been thinking a lot about them growing up there lately. This is a little before Les gets kicked out (big fight with dad) and they end up traveling around with Flea who is at uni at this point. (Flea isn't a local, he moved there because of uni a couple of years prior, and that's when Les and Hed met him. He is the only other mixed/non-fully funk troll they know at that point.)
In the drawing Hed is studying for a test. He's in the second year of high school when he drops out. This upsets and angers Les because he has good grades but Hed insists that they should form a band (like they used to talk about when younger) because he is secretly shit scared of letting Les live alone and fuck off to who knows where. - At this point in time Vibe City is pretty much grounded in the same location most of the time, and if Les doesn't have work, he likes to spend his time in the suburb/woods outside the city where he takes care of his beetle van, Scaab. And Hed is aware Les has been itching to leave the city for a while already...
This has been an unexpected mini lore dump, thank you for your time :P
#trolls#dreamworks trolls#ex bandmates#les#hed#flea didn't mind dropping out of uni bc dude was there for the student life and not much else lol#traveling around and playing at small gigs sounds like a better use of his time (his moms don't agree but he's 21 and can do what he wants)#i think rock and funk societies have similar school systems to ours and that their societies look the most like ours (to some degree)#pop trolls have elementary school but then what they call high school is just apprenticeships. and they have no higher education#answered#my art#trolls oc#vibe city is grounded because the king and queen aren't looking for their lost son yet (maybe they aren't even married yet?)#it's still quite a few years before the twin eggs are laid#also i think this is the first time i mentioned scaab by name#yes his name is scaab no i don't have a picture of him but i have tried drawing him plenty of times and i can see him in my head
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wherein akechi avoids looking at his reflection as he sees too much of his mother in his own appearance
#p5r#akeshu#art tag#persona#i saw a post and i was like#yes ... this is my jam... the pain.. is delicious#anyway i agree i think he has his mother's looks#and every time he sees his reflection it reminds him too much of her#how she was probs the only one to love him#and he fears how disappointed she'd be in the person he's become ??#anyway i dont know the canon very well#i have too many of my own headcanons and they're basically just my ocs at this point LOL
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hello sel!!! hru doing??
The ask game is super fun! How about Gojo + vindictive.
I hope u hv had a lovely day đ«¶
zuro anon
zuro anon hello!! thanks for sending in a prompt!! i'm doing good đ„ș spending this lil vacay at home, mostly đ„ș and happy to be back writing đ„ș i hope you have the loveliest weekend đ
contains: non-canon, childhood enemies to lovers (ish), (modern) arranged marriage, reader wears a braid and dresses
gojo + vindictive
you hate gojo satoru. you have ever since you were 5.
he's a bullyâa real cocky one at that, with no regard or remorse for how his actions affect those around him.
on the day before your 6th birthday, right as your parents gathered together for the annual countdown, he gobbled up the entire plate of your favorite milk cakes before you could even take a bite. this marked the start, the beginning of a vengeance stewing inside of you.
at the age of 8, when you first learned how to do your own braids, he would tug at them, pull them free and unravel all your hard work for the past hour. you used to chase him for it, yell "satoru!" with all the strength your little lungs could muster and he would merely laugh and run faster.
the name "satoru," you've learned, must be synonymous with "sabotage," because it's all he's ever done. he threw the flower geto suguru handpicked for you straight to the ground, and purposely splashed gutter water all over the white dress you intended to wear on your first date.
not to mention, he's always rubbed in the fact that he's better than you, at everythingâdangled all his accomplishments in front of you as if he knew they were just centimeters out of reach.
gojo satoru is solely responsible for tainting your childhood memories a miserable cerulean blue.
so, when your parents sit you down one day and tell you that you'll have to marry him, you feel transported in that moment, to each and every instance gojo has ever wronged you. it flips through your mind like a montage of flashbacks in a movie.
it's both surprising and not. your families have always been partners, in everythingâbusiness, education, and now you guess, life as well. you hate gojo's guts but this creates an opportunity you don't think can result from anything else.
so, sure, you'll agree to the marriageâonly to make his life a living hell.
"hello, fiancée," he greets you, for the first time since the agreement.
you don't do anything to hide your disgust, face scrunching up as you spit out, "shut up, satoru."
the wedding planning is horrendousâat least, you hope it is for him. you pick out every single cake flavor you know he hates and choose the brightest venue possible for the event. the lights you pick for the afterparty are strobe lights, and you make sure to do multiple test runs just to play with his eyes. it doesn't occur to you that the solution to his light sensitivity is simple: just a plain pair of shades.
you wear plumping lip gloss on your wedding day, just so his lips burn when you have to kiss him. but gojo is either extremely numb or just good at faking it, because all he does is grin as he whispers quietly before parting, "spicy."
in preparation for your married life, you create a ledger of some sortâa book of accounts housing every single thing gojo has done wrong. you write down your plans to get him back for each of them, a list of pranks and inconveniences to make him regret ever messing with you all those years ago.
at half a year of marriage and 25 years of knowing each other, he casually tells you the big "i love you," but you're sure he doesn't mean it. you tell yourself your heart is racing from how infuriating his existence is; at how stupid his face looked when he'd said it. not anything else and most especially not the little dimple on his cheek that shows itself every now and then.
(you didn't know it yet then, but he'd found the ledger you kept and read through it all. the one-year plan, the three-year plan, the five, and so on. and it does nothing but strengthen how he feels about you, since he was 6, 14, and a few years ago at 24.
it's at your third year of marriage that you find outâhow gojo's known all this time, but more importantly, how there were reasons behind every single instance you thought he was out to ruin your life.
with intelligence far beyond his age, gojo has always preferred the company of adults more than children. at age 6, he would listen in on conversations his mother had with her friends, roughly comprehending complex worlds with the simple ones he understood. someone had mentioned something about their daughter being allergic to milk. and so, when your birthday came up and all he saw were milk treats, he gobbled them all up in an effort to make sure you wouldn't be subjected to an adverse reactionâeven though you were far off from any dairy allergy.
what he was sure of, however, was that you were severely allergic to bees. and when he spotted one perched right on the buttercup stem geto handed you, he had no choice but to smack it right out of your hand and down to the ground, stepping on it too, for good measure.
and, okay, maybe he was a little naughty for tugging at your braids when you'd just spent all that time doing them, but he always liked how they flowed into waves when they unravelled; how you'd chase him afterwards, angry but so, so pretty.
if there's one moment gojo will consider real sabotage, though, it's that date he stopped you from going to. like there was any way he was going to let another man see you dressed like that. he isn't nice that way. when gojo wants something, he's not sharing, and the sight of you in whiteâthat was meant to be his and only his.)
#gojo x reader#jjk x reader#shotorus.workbook#this was interesting!!! bc i dont necessarily see gojo to be vindictive (hella petty yes HABSFh but not vindictive)#so trying to somehow incorporate the prompt really stretched out my braincells#thank you for this zuro anon!!#i hope you like it!!#additional context stuff!! they both come from affluent families and gojo is a little insane when it comes to love#not normal at all LOL he gets off from reader's hatred hsbfhsgdfv#reader learns to love him eventually. its rlly just a matter of seeing everything differently and understanding the whole situation#why he did things the way he did etc etc#not written but gojo hasbeen a kind of constant in reader's life and has been there at their lowest too !!!#and he really does go out of his way to make things work for reader too just not in ways obvious to reader !#for one of their classes in uni gojo got a really high grade compared to everyone else so chances of a curve were slim#reader's grade wasn't really that high and they were really sad about it#so gojo did a bunch of extra work for the professor so that he would agree to curve everyone's grades higher LOL#things like that ! he also trashed the front yard of the first boy that broke reader's heart đđđđ#nonie.zuro#ask#rep#ask game answered
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Silly sketches of Bill and my sona đ„° (Bill is powerless in this AU, so he demands my sona carries him around a lot asdhfoiasdh đ)
#gravity falls#bill cipher#fanart#artists on tumblr#my sona#sona tag#sketches#doodles#this was inspired by a comment someone made on my ig and i got carried away asdfhoasid lol#aLSO YES THEY DID MAKE A DEAL THAT THEY'D BE FRIENDS IF MACE HELPED HIM ESCAPE THE THERAPRISM ASDFHOASDIH#bill was desperate and hates that he agreed to this lmao
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I have not been in this fandom long enough to reasonably judge others' takes however. "EPIC fans are so silly to characterize odysseus as feeling guilty for his actions don't you know he's a war criminal" is definitely a wild one. like first of all to each their own so settle down and let people enjoy things ok. and secondly making choices with a bad outcome, even knowingly and deliberately, does not exclude the possibility of feeling bad about it later. in fact it makes for a much more in depth character because then you get to explore what he does or doesn't feel guilt over, and why, and if that guilt ever edges into regret or not.
#and thirdly i actually find it fascinating the way EPIC had him take a very conscious role in the greying of his morality#it's interesting to me because from my point of view odysseus in the odyssey is almost a passive player in his own myth#and i enjoy taking that very active moral choice and applying it to some of his non EPIC actions#odysseus#epic the musical#uh what is the tag for the epic cycle#as far as I'm aware it's#tagamemnon#?#idk i just think that if you were to ask your character what they would do differently the answer should not be ''nothing lol''#that is either a character who needs wayy more development or a storyteller who needs wayy more practice#also. WAR CRIMES DIDN'T FUCKING EXIST IT WAS THE BRONZE AGE#regardless of how socially acceptable or not his actions may have been#none of those men on the plain of fucking troy was about to sit down and agree on what constituted a crime of war#like if achilles can get away with flaunting straight up deliberate corpse desecration#i don't think anyone gets to say a word against odysseus for being a sneaky underhanded bastard who doesn't fight fair#coming back an hour later to add yet another point. the point of the people with this take is ''haha dont you know hes a bad person''#which fine yes by modern moral standards he is and even by contemporary standards* some of the stuff he does is super yikes man#but that STILL does not preclude him from feeling guilt. 'bad people' can feel guilt#gonna go ahead and explain those quotes around 'bad person' btw um i do not believe in morality like that. no one is fully good or bad#i shant speak on THAT further unless someone asks though#*contemporary is an iffy word here i feel because the default is to call the time of the penning of the text contemporary#despite the events in the text taking place several centuries earlier.#in this particular case because i am speaking from a point of textual analysis i will use the former#however i think that the latter is also a useful reference point
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thinking about floyd and riddle spending their first halloween as a couple together... i think floyd absolutely loves how varied and lively all of the different halloween traditions he's learned about since coming to live on land are, and he wants to try out as many of them as he can each year. so when riddle tells him that his mother always made him stay in his room studying on halloween, and that the only halloween activities he's ever done were those that NRC students were required to participate in, floyd decides that the two of them are just going to have to spend the day doing everything they possibly can. riddle tries to say he's far too busy for such things, but floyd will not let it go and honestly riddle is only half-heartedly protesting anyway because he secretly did always dream of doing the things that other kids got to do on halloween, and maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal to take one day off and spend time with his boyfriend.
so, riddle never got to make jack-o-lanterns? floyd decides to "borrow" about half a dozen of the pumpkins jade and azul had bought for mostro lounge and takes them to riddle's dorm room. riddle is terrible at trying to carve them at first and floyd can't help but laugh at him a little, but since he knows it's not riddle's fault he's never gotten to do this before, he says he'll show him how to do it. unfortunately floyd isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is on account of having lived in the ocean for almost his whole life and now riddle gets to laugh right back at him. they probably both get the hang of it right as they're down to their last two pumpkins.
riddle never got to go trick-or-treating with his childhood friends? floyd texts trey and convinces him to get in touch with chenya as well so that they can all go together. when they approach the first house, in the costumes they had prepared for each of their school's halloween events, riddle starts to get nervous and asks if they aren't all a little too old to be doing this. floyd shoves several huge handfuls of candy from that person's bowl into his and riddle's pumpkin-shaped buckets and tells him it's not like there's any rule that says they can't, and besides, riddle is such a cute little goldfish that he practically looks like a kid in his costume anyway! chenya stifles a laugh while trey has to stop riddle from committing murder that night.
riddle's never gone to a haunted house before? floyd and chenya both think it would be hilarious to make him go to one, so they do. riddle absolutely hates it, but it honestly does make him happy to see everyone else enjoying it--even if floyd and chenya both keep trying to egg him and trey on and get them to go down creepy corridors and check around corners by themselves, and even if floyd keeps running off to different parts of the haunted house and then coming back and hugging or even lifting riddle from behind knowing full well that he'll get freaked out by it.
riddle never got to play the apple bobbing game that's traditional in the queendom of roses? turns out there's a place right by the haunted house where they can go to do it! predictably, floyd is great at it while riddle ends up drenched without getting any apples, but just giving it a try is more fun than riddle expected.
riddle's never gotten to make candy apples before? luckily, trey knows an amazing recipe as well as what combinations of toppings work the best, and he's willing to teach them both! riddle gets very confused at imprecise directions such as being told to use "a few" drops of food coloring on the syrup or to drizzle "a little" white chocolate over it, and keeps asking trey exactly how much he should use. floyd thinks this is adorable. he also thinks it's adorable when riddle tries to scold him for ignoring half of trey's directions and just doing whatever he thinks sounds good.
riddle's never done a horror movie marathon before, or even seen any halloween movies in general? floyd insists that they marathon at least 3 movies together. after the experiences he had at the haunted house, riddle doesn't think he'll enjoy horror movies, but he tries to keep his cool throughout the first one anyway... which does not work out, because he really can't handle jumpscares or excessive gore. during the first movie they watch, floyd (who loves slasher films so much that he laughs and cheers every time the monster gets a kill) is happy to let his goldfishie cuddle up to him and grip onto his arm to keep himself from knocking the popcorn bowl onto the floor, but you know that once it's over riddle is getting teased relentlessly about how scared he was. floyd decides to be nice and put on something tamer for their next two movies, and riddle actually ends up really enjoying coraline and especially beetlejuice.
by the end of the night riddle realizes that they've stayed up way too late at night and a small part of him wants to scold floyd for keeping him up so late, insisting on having him do all of these silly activities and eat all of these terribly unhealthy snacks. another part of him wishes he could scold his mother for keeping him from doing any of these things as a kid, with his friends and the other kids in his hometown, the way you're supposed to do it... and another part of him still is just incredibly happy and grateful to floyd for finally giving him the chance.
#twisted wonderland#twst#riddle rosehearts#floyd leech#floyrid#floydriddle#floyd x riddle#riddle x floyd#man i wish the twst fandom agreed on ship names and tags lol. i think that's all the ones i've seen.#also YES i AM still posting halloween headcanon posts after halloween#sorry if this post is dumb and ooc. i may have a canon url but i do not claim to be a riddle expert much less a floyd expert#BUT i really do think riddle would enjoy animated halloween movies and more lighthearted horror comedies like beetlejuice#especially since beetlejuice has Rules. the ghosts have rules for the afterlife and even beetlejuice himself Has to follow rules.#so it's comforting and easy for riddle to understand#and i think floyd enjoys slashers and thrillers and such MORE than those types of movies but he will make compromises for his bf#because as much as he loves teasing him he doesn't want riddle to be like Actually Upset or to have a bad time#plus maybe i'm just a baby but i think coraline is genuinely pretty creepy even as an adult lmao#okay anyway. if it wasn't already obvious i love them <3#floyddle#florid
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