#but the thought that every single character ive grown to love over the past 7 years arent even the real person?
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its getting to the point where its not even fun to complain anymore this series just pisses me off
#i can handle the timeloop shit i can handle it taking place in a different dimension#but the thought that every single character ive grown to love over the past 7 years arent even the real person?#I loved theorizing how these once normal people came to be the monsters that they are in the game#but. that never happened! the real people have always been safe at home. these are nothing but ink copies with fake memories#and why the fuck should I care about a copy
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ENDGAME THOUGHTS
So here it is. The longest post I’ll ever write, so bear with me. (I’m not kidding, this is HUGE).
I watched Endgame at 7 pm yesterday… Came back home at 11. And I posted that I would try to sleep and make this post today. You know how many hours I slept? Four. And I finally fell asleep at 3.30 am.
I will try to say all my thoughts on this post, so if I miss something, I’m sorry. (Note: although I like more characters, the IronFam, pepperony, irondad… Will be the main concerns here, so anti Tonys, get the fuck out)
SPOILERS AHEAD
I will try to say things that I liked first, then the ones that I didn’t like, and then we’ll get to the OG6 ends, okay? Okay.
THINGS I LIKED:
The whole movie has that atmosphere that this was it. The Endgame. And it really makes you anxious for the characters.
Clint’s first scene with his family is heartbreaking
Tony being so soft (a dad) with Nebula was fucking everything
Although it was expected, Carol rescuing Tony and Nebula was great. (I guess it’s because the message for Pepper was received… because then why was she waiting there?)
Tony saying “I lost the kid” killed me, and then he finally calms down when Pepper hugs him
Tony’s kiss on Pepper’s cheek
Tony cutting out Steve’s bullshit had me going “Yeah, honey! That’s it”
Seriously, he looks (and feels) like shit. And he gets the strength to get up, rip off his IV, and call him out before his body can’t stand anymore
What’s left of the team trying to fix it all, going to Thanos without second thoughts and killing him once and for all (okay, maybe not “forever”, but you know… Thor finally went for the head)
That “5 years later” gasp, seeing how the world is “moving on” after the decimation
Everyone’s fucking done, and tired, and hopeless (e.g. Nat, Steve, Rocket and Nebula, Rhodey, Clint…)
Nat’s break down, trying to stay positive about Clint, and about everything (also, Rhodey helping her, looking for Clint… Because in this blog, we love and respect Colonel James ‘Rhodey’ Rhodes)
Scott getting back from the quantum realm after (for him) 5 hours, to finally reunite with his now grown up daughter
Tony “moving on” (kinda). He has the life he said he wanted since AoU, with Pepper as his wife and his daughter, and living on a beautiful farm, away from everyone
Tony being the BEST DAD the MCU will ever see (no hate on Clint or Scott tho, it’s just my opinion). He loves her so much, and she loves her daddy too (3000
Morgan with the Rescue helmet
Tony kissing it
He carrying her inside to have dinner
The team getting to his house for help, cause he’s the only one that can do it
That shot of Tony pouring drinks for everyone in which we see his wedding band (because, of course, and like RDJ, Tony is that kind of man)
He being selfish about trying what Scott said. He has every right to be. Although Peter’s not there, he has Morgan. And he wants to be there for her. He’s allowing himself to be selfish for the first time in 15 years (being 2023 in the MCU right now… I think… technically…)
But… he’s Tony Stark. The selfless man the world will ever know. He can fix it, and he will
Nat, Scott and Steve talking with Bruce… or Hulk… or Proffesor Hulk (let’s call him Bruce)
Tony being domestic: doing the dishes, tucking his daughter in, the “I love you 3000″, and him being so cute with Morgan like… “whoa, honey, that’s a lot… that’s more than ‘tons’"
Him resolving the problems of the “time-travels” in a couple of hours… I stan one man… Also, Morgan seeing her daddy work and getting ice-cream before going to sleep. Again, the best dad
Once again, Tony being domestic talking with Pep (aka his wife, aka the love of his life, aka the mother of his daughter, aka his goddess, boss and queen), asking her what should he do, and Pepper, like always, being his voice of reason
Scott and Bruce trying to work with the quantum realm
Tony driving to the compound like the badass he is (also, while being a badass, still being a dad and putting toys and a teddy bear out the way of Cap’s shield)
Bruce and Rocket looking for Thor, the appereance of Valkyrie, Korg and Miek, and Thor playing Fortnite. (I found all of Thor’s scenes very funny, but at the same time I didn’t feel like it was okay to laugh about it. He’s clearly depressed during the whole film, and every character-like every person- deal with depression and ways to cope in different ways… so I don’t think that laughing at Fat Thor was nearly okay)
Clint being a badass
His scene with Nat, holding hands
Rhodey with the best fucking idea of the movie (go back in time to baby Thanos, and… you know the rest). Again, I love this man
Bruce freaking out about it. And explaining the way the MOVIE works
Clint being succesful on the first try
The WHOLE scenes of the “domestic” team, getting up ideas of how they’re going to recollect the stones (Loved every single one of them, and I would gladly watch a film that was all about Nat, Tony and Bruce lying on a table and talking)
Jane Foster making a come-back (kinda)… Also, Thor is me when I’m doing a presentation
Rocket calling Scott “puppy”
The team prepared. The whole “you know your teams, you know your missions” speech
The “unseen” parts of Avengers 1, after they got Loki
Scott giving 2012-Tony a heart attack and 2012-Thor helping with Mjolnir. All while actual-Tony gets the tesseract (for a while)
All of Rocket-Thor scenes in Asgard
Rhodey and Nebula laughing at Quill
2012-Cap vs actual-Cap (+America’s Ass), and the elevator scene
The ancient one and Bruce conversation
The whole thing with past and present Nebula
Stan Lee’s cameo
Tony and Steve going to 1970. Tony (aka Howard Potts… I died when his wife’s name is the first one that comes to his mind) talking to Howard Stark, having a dad to dad conversation, and Edwin Jarvis cameo. Meanwhile, Steve seeing Peggy.
Nat sacrifice for Clint. Clint crying afterwards…
The team decided to not let her sacrifice be in vain (+Bruce’s reaction)
Bruce undoing the snap
Past-Gamora helping actual-Nebula (+killing old-Nebula)
Thor, Steve and Tony fight with Thanos (while the rest of the team is trying to get the gauntlet)… (+THAT scene of Steve and Mjolnir)
THAT FUCKING SCENE WHERE ALL OF THE FALLEN AVENGERS COME BACK (+RESCUE!!) AND STEVE FINALLY SAYS “AVENGERS ASSEMBLE”
SERIOUSLY, THAT WHOLE SCENE
Rescue and Iron Man fighting back to back like the power couple they are
Rescue-Mom giving Spiderman and the gauntlet a ride
Tony and Peter reunion *sobbing* (+Groot and Rocket, +Hope and Scott, +Quill and Gamora)
THAT SCENE WITH ALL THE WOMEN FIGHTING TOGETHER (Pepper being the badass she fucking is!!)… The only woman I missed was Nat… *sobbing again*
TONY’S “I AM IRON MAN”
PEPPER’S “ITS OKAY… YOU CAN REST NOW”
PETER SOBBING. PEPPER SOBBING. RHODEY HOLDING PETER
PETER GOING BACK TO NED AND MAY
THE VIDEO. “I LOVE YOU 3000″
THE FUNERAL WITH ALL THE TEAM (+HARLEY)
RHODEY AND HAPPY COMFORTING EACH OTHER BEHIND MORGAN AND PEP
“PROOF THAT TONY STARK HAS A HEART”
UNCLE HAPPY AND THE FUCKING CHEESEBURGUERS
Thor going with the Guardians (+Quill looking for Gamora)
Clint with his fam
Scott with his fam
Steve giving the shield to Sam
(this is kinda)-> Steve going to Peggy
In conclusion: MY HEART IS FUCKING BROKEN FOR THIS MOVIE, but nontheless I “loved” it
Okay… so now that we are done… Let’s talk about what I didn’t like:
I needed more Pepper/Tony moments, and more Pepper “mommy” moments
Uncle Happy was great… BUT WHAT ABOUT UNCLE RHODEY!
Steve, get out of the fucking way! Tony doesn’t need you now (at the begining of the movie). He needs Pepper, and Rhodey, and food, water and sleep
Rhodey not getting a hug with Tony at the begining of the movie
Not May/Tony conflict/crying over their ‘son’
I don’t know if I like Howard’s and Tony’s talk… I do like it, but idk. I guess that in the movies he wasn’t physically abusing to him… But at least he gets to talk with his dad and he realizes he’s a very good dad with Morgan (aka, his “little girl” *sobs*)
TONY DESERVES BETTER. THE WHOLE IRONFAM DESERVES BETTER. MORGAN, PEPPER, RHODEY, HAPPY, PETER… MY GOSH, EVEN THE BOTS AND FRIDAY (I can’t talk about him in past tense, I’m sorry. I’m just in denial)
THAT FUCKING CHEESEBURGUER LINE (I swear, I will never get over that fucking line)
Steve getting to live his “endgame” with Peggy, leaving everyone behind (aka Bucky and Sam, but mostly Bucky) and being FUCKING SELFISH (in my eyes… and for what I’ve read, in a lot of actual Cap’s fans too)
How come that “the man who lays in the wire” is the one that leaves, and “the man who would cut the wire” is the one that fucking LAYS ON IT (again)
Alright. Now I’m going to talk about the OG6 ends. Although I have leave my points of view up… But I still want to talk about it more thoroughly:
Clint: Finally, Clint got his protagonism in the team. He’s going to do “whatever it takes” (and he means WHATEVER) to bring his family back. I liked his end, there’s nothing more to discuss about it.
Bruce: Yeah, Bruce finally got the best of both worlds, the mind and the strength… But what’s he going to do now?
Thor: Thor’s end was okay (IMO)… He doesn’t have the strength to be the king anymore… But Valkyrie does. And he has great chemistry with the Guardians, so I didn’t mind him going with them.
Nat: Nat’s ending was great. Let me explain. I didnt like that she died. But I felt it very on character… She has no family, her family are the avengers. And she wants to bring them back. Clint is like her brother (I’m a little into Clintasha tbh, but I accept that they give them that brother/sister relationship long ago. It proofs that not all the male/female friendships have to end in a romantic relationship), and she did anything she could to undo the snap during 5 fucking years.
Steve: Hated it (him). Yeah, you “loved” Peggy… Whatever. (The Russos trying to put Steggy as the Royal ship when everyone KNOWS that that title belongs, AND WILL ALWAYS BELONG, to Pepper and Tony). He’s just looking at the past, he has never moved on, and he never will. He let Tony gave up his family (at the age of 53… god, he had a lot to live for) and then he left Bucky behind (and the whole Hydra mess too), when he always was so nuisance about him all these years…
Tony: Hate/Love it. I love it because it’s the way of fully close the circle of this whole journey, and he’s the SAVIOR of the fucking MCU, now and always. Haters can shut their mouths now after what he did…
I hate it because… He’s my baby. He finally had the life he craved for all these years. Married to Pep, with his baby girl; trophy husband, doting father… and now he’s… gone. He’ll never see Morgan grow up (her first day at college, her first bf/gf, her graduation, her wedding, his grand-kids… any of it), he’ll never see Peter go to college either. Pepper will see all of that alone (not completely, because Happy and Rhodey will always be there, but someone will be always missing). Morgan won’t ever doubt that her daddy loves her, but still he won’t be there to kiss her goodnight, nor to tell her shitty bed time stories. (God, I’m crying again… and I really want to say I am joking, but I’m not).
Tony fucking DESERVED BETTER.
The whole IRONFAM DESERVED BETTER.
Rhodey hold his head and pet his hair, with tears in his eyes that he refuses to let out. Peter calling him Tony for the first time ever… “We won”
Also, Pepper is the STRONGEST WOMAN IN THE MCU. No one will EVER change my mind. She went into battlefield to help her husband, to protect their kid, and she hates violence. She fought beside him, helped defeat Thanos… And, when Tony (her Tony) was dying… She kneeled next to him, to reassure him that they would be okay, that he “can rest now”. And she didn’t break until he was gone. So the last thing he would see was her being the calm, competent person he knows she is. SHE FUCKING WAITS TILL HE’S GONE. SHE HOLDS HER TEARS AND HER SOBS SO HE WOULD FEEL OKAY. SO THAT HE COULD REST. And then, when the light of his arc reactor is out, and his hand is no longer in hers, she let it all out. She kissed his cheek one last time and sobs with her face buried in his neck… And I can’t deal with it.
Tony’s last message… “I love you 3000″ is another heartbreak. And the “Proof that Tony Stark has a heart” is the best… But the fucking cheeseburguers… If I weren’t sobbing and trembling during all that, the cheeseburguer was the charm that made me explode. It was over. It was really over. And that line made it true.
And the point is… I can’t read fanfics now. Nor see fanarts, fanvids, edits, you name it. Hell, I don’t think I’ll be able to watch any movie with Tony in it with the same eyes anymore… Any of the Iron Man movies, Homecoming, Civil War… It’s just too much. I won’t be able to watch Iron Man 1 again the same as I did before… with the cheeseburguer, and Pepper tears because she “hates job hunting”, Yinsen and his question about family, or the first time Tony flies out of his garage, with that huge, happy smile on his face.
Every time that I see 3000, I get fucking sad. And I was crying when I got home yesterday. When I calmed down a bit, I entered Instagram and Robert posted that photo of him and Jimmy Rich “holding” the A of Avengers and the tag #iloveyou #3000 and I fucking cried again… Fuck, I’ve been crying while writing all of this post.
I’m not even able to read some fluff fanfic from a couple of years ago… Pre-Infiniry war era to cheer me up. It just makes me sadden.
And… I think that’s it… I hope someone will read aaaaall my rant, but I can’t sum anything up.
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TONY STARK, I LOVE YOU 3000 (ALWAYS WILL)
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8 Artist-Couples on Valentine's Day and the Art of Love
It was either Pablo Picasso or John Lennon who said "Love is the greatest refreshment in life," so who cares? For an artist, whose day job involves honing the senses to their most refined capacities, love is like the medium mixed into all things. From filmmakers to painters, designers, and more, The Creators Project caught up with eight artist-couples to talk relationships, first dates, and why artists make better lovers.
KAWS and Julia Chiang
Occupation:
Julia Chiang: Artist/mom
KAWS: Artist
Length of relationship: Almost 8 years, married 3.
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Julia: We had known each other through mutual friends for years but didn't really start talking until we both fell out of relationships around the same time and started seeing each other out more. Not a love at first sight story!
KAWS: I met Julia ages ago and apparently she thought I was a jerk when we met but I don’t remember because I was too busy being me.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Julia: I love all the Valentine's Day candy displays in pharmacies. If I could ignore all the crap it's made of, I'd eat it all. I used to collect a lot of it. It's just so over the top with literal sweetness and sentiment! And I used to take pictures of the displays at the old Walgreen's on Atlantic Ave in downtown Brooklyn. They were awesome. I'd say a favorite Valentine treat with Brian would be going to Nitehawk and watching a movie. We usually make each other something too.
KAWS: I just need to make sure I get Julia lots of candy and all goes well after that.
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Julia: I've grown thicker skin! And...we work so differently so I learn a lot from how he does things and how he deals with everything.
KAWS: I’m not sure if it has anything to do with being artists but being with Julia has made me a better person.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?
Julia: Single or not, it's a made up holiday to celebrate love. So if you're into it, have fun and indulge, if not...it's just another day. I love the extra-ness of the day so I used to get into it and part of it was just an excuse to make something for friends. No such thing as 'too cheesy' on Valentine's, in my opinion.
KAWS: I would tell them not to put to much weight into Hallmark holidays.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Julia: Yeah it can be so fun! But for public sharing I wouldn't know—haven't crossed that line yet!
KAWS: Only when it seems right.
Sheree Hovsepian and Rashid Johnson
Occupation:
Sheree Hovsepian: Artist
Rashid Johnson: Artist
Length of relationship: 13 years, married 7 years
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Sheree: We met at Danny's Lounge in Chicago. I was on a date with someone he knew from high school. The rest is history.
Rashid: We met in Chicago at a Bar called Danny's. Sheree was on a date with another guy. It was love at first sight.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Sheree: Stay at home and have dinner and a nice cuddle. It's amateur night out there!
Rashid: Stay home and make a nice dinner.
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Sheree: I learned so much about being an artist from Rashid. I am inspired by his focus and accomplishments built upon a humble foundation of love and joy for what he does.
Rashid: You always have a smart, thoughtful eye and ear with you. That's both challenging and comforting.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Sheree: Have fun on those dating apps. I missed out on all that.
Rashid: Don't hide. Treat yourself to a nice dinner.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Sheree: I don't know. It's not something we do. Probably no.
Rashid: Why not?
Becca McCharen-Tran and Christine McCharen-Tran
Occupation:
Becca McCharen-Tran: Fashion designer, Chromat
Christine McCharen-Tran: Experiential designer, co-founder of Discwoman
Length of relationship: 4 YEARS OF BLISS
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Christine: We met through a mutual friend at Tandem Bar.
Becca: Then she DM’d me ;)
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?: Dancing in the living room
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Becca: She inspires me to work harder, always.
Christine: Constantly finding inspiration. Challenging the norm. She opens me up to different ways of seeing.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Becca: Celebrate Galentines Day and the power of female friendships.
Christine: Treat yourself.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Becca: Yes, we’re lucky enough to work together every season for fashion week. Once I finish the collection, Christine works with me to produce the runway show. She’s an amazing event producer and I love working with her. She’s so organized! And then for her Discwoman events, I’m the merch girl :)
Christine: We’re always finding new ways in which our work complements each others'.
Justin Hager and Kristine Reano
Occupation:
Justin Hager: Painter/Illustrator
Kristine Reano: Painter/Designer
Length of relationship: 4.5 years
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Justin: I met her through mutual friends and I had a crush on her from the first time we met each other. Somehow she said yes to going on a date with me. We were best buds instantly and I still have a crush on her.
Kristine: We have a ton of mutual friends, but didn’t actually meet until way later. I always saw him around and always thought he was so cute. Once I finally met him and we got to talking, I instantly knew that he was the one—that my dream guy was finally here.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Justin: We like to eat steaks from Peter Luger’s in Brooklyn.
Kristine: Not celebrating! We always do our thing post-14th—it’s way more chill and feels more genuine.
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Justin: It's been the most amazing thing ever. I've never been able to truly share ideas, brainstorm, and have real-talk constructive criticism with anyone in the past. It's really cool to be able to do that all the time. Having her support and just being around her in general has made me so much happier and confident in everything in my life. I learn from her every day, and to be able to create with my favorite person in the universe is a dream come true.
Kristine: It’s a special thing navigating the world with someone who is wired the same way as you. There’s a deeper level of understanding and support because you know the same struggles, battle with the same demons and experience the same triumphs and joys that come with creating. Plus it’s just so much more fun! I’m really lucky to have met someone who accepts and celebrates who I am, and inspires me every single day.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Justin: Go to the bar.
Kristine: Hang out with friends instead.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Justin: Yeah! we actually did a collaboration show a couple years ago. I’m left handed and Kristine is right handed so we painted at the same time, with an hour time limit for each painting. it was the most fun ive ever had painting with her.
Kristine: Yes! We constantly collaborate on things and find new ways to keep it fun and motivate each other.
Marlene McCarty and Christine Vachon
Occupation:
Marlene McCarty: Artist
Christine Vachon: Film producer
Length of relationship: 23 (or 24) years
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Marlene: I was doing film titles on Tom Kalin’s film, SWOON. Christine was producing the film. The first time I was introduced to her was by Tom at Universal Grill. (Remember that place?) But things got real at a party for Todd Haynes' birthday.
Christine: We met when Marlene did film titles for SWOON. But we REALLY fell for each other at a birthday party for Todd Haynes
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Marlene: Caviar
Christine: We pretty much ignore it. I guess this picture was our treat!
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Marlene: It’s made me a stronger artist at the core. My partner is a filmmaker. Film and filmmakers get all the attention when you’re in everyday social situations, like a party. Art is absolutely not respected in the world in the way that film is. To weather that makes one very strong.
Christine: She’s the artist, not me. She has made me much more discerning about what I like and why I like it
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Marlene: Eat caviar.
Christine: A lot of rosé wine. But that’s my advice for everyone.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Marlene: Yes but definitely not all the time.
Christine: Sure.
Jo Rosenthal and Jack Wedge
Occupation:
Jack Wedge: Animator/painter/student
Jo Rosenthal: Artist and writer
Length of relationship: 69
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Jack: I met Jo when I walked into a store on 7th St where she works. I walked in by accident because I thought it was a thrift shop and I wanted to buy some big sheets to make a ghost character for a student film. We talked for probably five minutes. They did not sell large ghost sheets. I asked her what her name was and I told her I was at NYU and my name is Jack. Then she stalked me on the internet and I messaged her and accused her of stalking me. We went on a date about two weeks later and I saw her studio and her spider etchings and then we went to Dairy Queen.
Jo: He came into my job and asked if we sold bedsheets for a movie he was filming. I want to say that the rest is history, but actually I didn’t get his number that day and so after he left my job I tried to find him with the little information I already knew about him and had a friend (who I assumed had mutual friends with him help me find him.) She ended up knowing of him and helped me find his Instagram and I followed. He slid into those DM’s, we went to Dairy Queen and THE rest is herstory. ;)
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Jack: It's therapeutic to talk about our work together as well as what we want to do in the future. I look forward to showing her new work. I lean on her for support and also criticism. We push each other to think of new ideas, projects, stories.
Jo: Jack takes a sketchbook with him wherever he goes and is constantly drawing the world around him. I feel like that makes me want to draw the world around me (so cheesy, I KNOW) but really, it is so wonderful to be able to get feedback on work and be able to show each other the finished pieces. I am always challenged, supported and motivated to do my best work by someone who isn’t myself, and that feels nice.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?
Jo: Probably eating cookies or ice cream and staring at each other, but I feel like we do that everyday.
Jack: Hang with us!
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?
Both: Come over!
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Jack: Yes.
Jo: I would recommend doing anything with a significant other as long as it was fun and didn’t involve breaking the other person’s heart.
Deborah Kass and Patricia Cronin
Occupation:
Patricia Cronin: Artist and professor
Deborah Kass: Artist
Length of relationship: 24 years together, married since July 24, 2011, the first day gay marriage was legal in New York State.
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Patricia: We met when I visited Deb’s studio for a show I was co-curating, Coming to Power: 25 Years of Sexually X-plicit Art By Women.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?: We always stay home and have too much fun!
How has being with another artist changed you?: I have no idea. I’ve only been in relationships with creative people. We speak the same language and think outside of the box.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?: I don’t think I’ve ever been single on Valentine’s Day—my favorite holiday—so I’ve got nothing.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other? No, not with a romantic partner or anyone else! I’m not a collaborative-arts type person.
Trudy Benson and Russell Tyler
Occupation:
Trudy Benson: Artist
Russell Tyler: Artist
Length of relationship: Nearly 8-and-a-half years
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Trudy: Russell and I met at the Bring Your Own Art show at Pratt, where we were both starting out in grad school. I noticed his painting first, which was an expressive remix of Reubens' The Lion Hunt. There was a lot of traditional figurative painting and his work really stood out. It was the best painting in the room, and when I saw Russell, I knew that he had painted it. We were immediately drawn to each other and ended up hanging out most of the night on a friend’s rooftop.
Russell: We met during the first week of Grad School at a bring your own art student exhibition. I saw Trudy from across the room and thought she was too beautiful. I immediately went to go talk to her. We liked each other’s work, got along swimmingly, and ended up hanging out that night. We’ve been together ever since!
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Trudy: We usually go out to dinner. This year we are going to get our cat neutered and then eat Peruvian food.
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Trudy: When I was starting to get to know Russell, I really admired his studio practice. He was always painting and so prolific. My own studio practice was not so rigorous and I had been feeling lost in the studio. His paintings and his practice inspired me to push harder and change my work, look at different materials and paint applications. I wouldn’t be the artist I am today had we not met.
Russell: It’s made me a more focused artist.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Trudy: I don’t think people need advice because they are single on Valentine’s Day, but if you are in a place where being single on that particular day is depressing, I would say to be social. If you are an artist, go to the studio.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Trudy: It depends! Russell and I don’t do so well collaborating on one piece. He is more of a planner and I am more intuitive. We have had studios next to each other since grad school, so in that sense I suppose we are always making paintings side by side. Never on the same canvas. Having that other set of eyes at your disposal, having someone who is about as close to the work as they can be without actually making it, is so valuable. We are always talking to each other about what’s happening in the studio. Sometimes you are too close to the work to really see it.
Russell: Trudy and I work with are studios adjacent from each other. We’ve been working that way since grad school. So yes.
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8 Artist-Couples on Valentine's Day and the Art of Love
Marlene McCarty and Christine Vachon. All photos by Charlie Rubin for The Creators Project
It was either Pablo Picasso or John Lennon who said "Love is the greatest refreshment in life," so who cares? For an artist, whose day job involves honing the senses to their most refined capacities, love is like the medium mixed into all things. From filmmakers to painters, designers, and more, The Creators Project caught up with eight artist-couples to talk relationships, first dates, and why artists make better lovers.
Sheree Hovsepian and Rashid Johnson
Occupation:
Sheree Hovsepian: Artist
Rashid Johnson: Artist
Length of relationship: 13 years, married 7 years
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Sheree: We met at Danny's Lounge in Chicago. I was on a date with someone he knew from high school. The rest is history.
Rashid: We met in Chicago at a Bar called Danny's. Sheree was on a date with another guy. It was love at first sight.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Sheree: Stay at home and have dinner and a nice cuddle. It's amateur night out there!
Rashid: Stay home and make a nice dinner.
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Sheree: I learned so much about being an artist from Rashid. I am inspired by his focus and accomplishments built upon a humble foundation of love and joy for what he does.
Rashid: You always have a smart, thoughtful eye and ear with you. That's both challenging and comforting.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Sheree: Have fun on those dating apps. I missed out on all that.
Rashid: Don't hide. Treat yourself to a nice dinner.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Sheree: I don't know. It's not something we do. Probably no.
Rashid: Why not?
Becca McCharen-Tran and Christine McCharen-Tran
Occupation:
Becca McCharen-Tran: Fashion designer, Chromat
Christine McCharen-Tran: Experiential designer, co-founder of Discwoman
Length of relationship: 4 YEARS OF BLISS
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Christine: We met through a mutual friend at Tandem Bar.
Becca: Then she DM’d me ;)
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?: Dancing in the living room
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Becca: She inspires me to work harder, always.
Christine: Constantly finding inspiration. Challenging the norm. She opens me up to different ways of seeing.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Becca: Celebrate Galentines Day and the power of female friendships.
Christine: Treat yourself.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Becca: Yes, we’re lucky enough to work together every season for fashion week. Once I finish the collection, Christine works with me to produce the runway show. She’s an amazing event producer and I love working with her. She’s so organized! And then for her Discwoman events, I’m the merch girl :)
Christine: We’re always finding new ways in which our work complements each others'.
Justin Hager and Kristine Reano
Occupation:
Justin Hager: Painter/Illustrator
Kristine Reano: Painter/Designer
Length of relationship: 4.5 years
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Justin: I met her through mutual friends and I had a crush on her from the first time we met each other. Somehow she said yes to going on a date with me. We were best buds instantly and I still have a crush on her.
Kristine: We have a ton of mutual friends, but didn’t actually meet until way later. I always saw him around and always thought he was so cute. Once I finally met him and we got to talking, I instantly knew that he was the one—that my dream guy was finally here.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Justin: We like to eat steaks from Peter Luger’s in Brooklyn.
Kristine: Not celebrating! We always do our thing post-14th—it’s way more chill and feels more genuine.
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Justin: It's been the most amazing thing ever. I've never been able to truly share ideas, brainstorm, and have real-talk constructive criticism with anyone in the past. It's really cool to be able to do that all the time. Having her support and just being around her in general has made me so much happier and confident in everything in my life. I learn from her every day, and to be able to create with my favorite person in the universe is a dream come true.
Kristine: It’s a special thing navigating the world with someone who is wired the same way as you. There’s a deeper level of understanding and support because you know the same struggles, battle with the same demons and experience the same triumphs and joys that come with creating. Plus it’s just so much more fun! I’m really lucky to have met someone who accepts and celebrates who I am, and inspires me every single day.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Justin: Go to the bar.
Kristine: Hang out with friends instead.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Justin: Yeah! we actually did a collaboration show a couple years ago. I’m left handed and Kristine is right handed so we painted at the same time, with an hour time limit for each painting. it was the most fun ive ever had painting with her.
Kristine: Yes! We constantly collaborate on things and find new ways to keep it fun and motivate each other.
Marlene McCarty and Christine Vachon
Occupation:
Marlene McCarty: Artist
Christine Vachon: Film producer
Length of relationship: 23 (or 24) years
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Marlene: I was doing film titles on Tom Kalin’s film, SWOON. Christine was producing the film. The first time I was introduced to her was by Tom at Universal Grill. (Remember that place?) But things got real at a party for Todd Haynes' birthday.
Christine: We met when Marlene did film titles for SWOON. But we REALLY fell for each other at a birthday party for Todd Haynes
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Marlene: Caviar
Christine: We pretty much ignore it. I guess this picture was our treat!
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Marlene: It’s made me a stronger artist at the core. My partner is a filmmaker. Film and filmmakers get all the attention when you’re in everyday social situations, like a party. Art is absolutely not respected in the world in the way that film is. To weather that makes one very strong.
Christine: She’s the artist, not me. She has made me much more discerning about what I like and why I like it
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Marlene: Eat caviar.
Christine: A lot of rosé wine. But that’s my advice for everyone.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Marlene: Yes but definitely not all the time.
Christine: Sure.
KAWS and Julia Chiang
Occupation:
Julia Chiang: Artist/mom
KAWS: Artist
Length of relationship: Almost 8 years, married 3.
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Julia: We had known each other through mutual friends for years but didn't really start talking until we both fell out of relationships around the same time and started seeing each other out more. Not a love at first sight story!
KAWS: I met Julia ages ago and apparently she thought I was a jerk when we met but I don’t remember because I was too busy being me.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Julia: I love all the Valentine's Day candy displays in pharmacies. If I could ignore all the crap it's made of, I'd eat it all. I used to collect a lot of it. It's just so over the top with literal sweetness and sentiment! And I used to take pictures of the displays at the old Walgreen's on Atlantic Ave in downtown Brooklyn. They were awesome. I'd say a favorite Valentine treat with Brian would be going to Nitehawk and watching a movie. We usually make each other something too.
KAWS: I just need to make sure I get Julia lots of candy and all goes well after that.
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Julia: I've grown thicker skin! And...we work so differently so I learn a lot from how he does things and how he deals with everything.
KAWS: I’m not sure if it has anything to do with being artists but being with Julia has made me a better person.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?
Julia: Single or not, it's a made up holiday to celebrate love. So if you're into it, have fun and indulge, if not...it's just another day. I love the extra-ness of the day so I used to get into it and part of it was just an excuse to make something for friends. No such thing as 'too cheesy' on Valentine's, in my opinion.
KAWS: I would tell them not to put to much weight into Hallmark holidays.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Julia: Yeah it can be so fun! But for public sharing I wouldn't know—haven't crossed that line yet!
KAWS: Only when it seems right.
Jo Rosenthal and Jack Wedge
Occupation:
Jack Wedge: Animator/painter/student
Jo Rosenthal: Artist and writer
Length of relationship: 69
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Jack: I met Jo when I walked into a store on 7th St where she works. I walked in by accident because I thought it was a thrift shop and I wanted to buy some big sheets to make a ghost character for a student film. We talked for probably five minutes. They did not sell large ghost sheets. I asked her what her name was and I told her I was at NYU and my name is Jack. Then she stalked me on the internet and I messaged her and accused her of stalking me. We went on a date about two weeks later and I saw her studio and her spider etchings and then we went to Dairy Queen.
Jo: He came into my job and asked if we sold bedsheets for a movie he was filming. I want to say that the rest is history, but actually I didn’t get his number that day and so after he left my job I tried to find him with the little information I already knew about him and had a friend (who I assumed had mutual friends with him help me find him.) She ended up knowing of him and helped me find his Instagram and I followed. He slid into those DM’s, we went to Dairy Queen and THE rest is herstory. ;)
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Jack: It's therapeutic to talk about our work together as well as what we want to do in the future. I look forward to showing her new work. I lean on her for support and also criticism. We push each other to think of new ideas, projects, stories.
Jo: Jack takes a sketchbook with him wherever he goes and is constantly drawing the world around him. I feel like that makes me want to draw the world around me (so cheesy, I KNOW) but really, it is so wonderful to be able to get feedback on work and be able to show each other the finished pieces. I am always challenged, supported and motivated to do my best work by someone who isn’t myself, and that feels nice.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?
Jo: Probably eating cookies or ice cream and staring at each other, but I feel like we do that everyday.
Jack: Hang with us!
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?
Both: Come over!
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Jack: Yes.
Jo: I would recommend doing anything with a significant other as long as it was fun and didn’t involve breaking the other person’s heart.
Deborah Kass and Patricia Cronin
Occupation:
Patricia Cronin: Artist and professor
Deborah Kass: Artist
Length of relationship: 24 years together, married since July 24, 2011, the first day gay marriage was legal in New York State.
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Patricia: We met when I visited Deb’s studio for a show I was co-curating, Coming to Power: 25 Years of Sexually X-plicit Art By Women.
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?: We always stay home and have too much fun!
How has being with another artist changed you?: I have no idea. I’ve only been in relationships with creative people. We speak the same language and think outside of the box.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?: I don’t think I’ve ever been single on Valentine’s Day—my favorite holiday—so I’ve got nothing.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other? No, not with a romantic partner or anyone else! I’m not a collaborative-arts type person.
Trudy Benson and Russell Tyler
Occupation:
Trudy Benson: Artist
Russell Tyler: Artist
Length of relationship: Nearly 8-and-a-half years
What's your side of the story of how you met?:
Trudy: Russell and I met at the Bring Your Own Art show at Pratt, where we were both starting out in grad school. I noticed his painting first, which was an expressive remix of Reubens' The Lion Hunt. There was a lot of traditional figurative painting and his work really stood out. It was the best painting in the room, and when I saw Russell, I knew that he had painted it. We were immediately drawn to each other and ended up hanging out most of the night on a friend’s rooftop.
Russell: We met during the first week of Grad School at a bring your own art student exhibition. I saw Trudy from across the room and thought she was too beautiful. I immediately went to go talk to her. We liked each other’s work, got along swimmingly, and ended up hanging out that night. We’ve been together ever since!
Best Valentine's Day activity or treat?:
Trudy: We usually go out to dinner. This year we are going to get our cat neutered and then eat Peruvian food.
How has being with another artist changed you?:
Trudy: When I was starting to get to know Russell, I really admired his studio practice. He was always painting and so prolific. My own studio practice was not so rigorous and I had been feeling lost in the studio. His paintings and his practice inspired me to push harder and change my work, look at different materials and paint applications. I wouldn’t be the artist I am today had we not met.
Russell: It’s made me a more focused artist.
Best advice for someone who is single on Valentine's Day?:
Trudy: I don’t think people need advice because they are single on Valentine’s Day, but if you are in a place where being single on that particular day is depressing, I would say to be social. If you are an artist, go to the studio.
Would you recommend making art with your significant other?
Trudy: It depends! Russell and I don’t do so well collaborating on one piece. He is more of a planner and I am more intuitive. We have had studios next to each other since grad school, so in that sense I suppose we are always making paintings side by side. Never on the same canvas. Having that other set of eyes at your disposal, having someone who is about as close to the work as they can be without actually making it, is so valuable. We are always talking to each other about what’s happening in the studio. Sometimes you are too close to the work to really see it.
Russell: Trudy and I work with are studios adjacent from each other. We’ve been working that way since grad school. So yes.
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