#but the ONLY time ghetsis even acknowledged that was when he was trying to manipulate N

[lollitree]

You know I was against Giovanni taking over all the villain arcs (save for Sinnoh's) in Pokemon Masters until the Kalos one because now there's a possibility his aim is to start up Rainbow Rocket again and how cool would it be to see the half redeemed villains have to fight against alternate, more evil versions of themselves who succeeded in their original plans

[hamfistedmorals]

Pokemon Sword and Shield Theory - The Mural Scene

People have talked a lot about the games, and about the story. Most players seem to agree that it's lackluster. That the majority of plot points in the climax come out of nowhere and are completely forgotten afterward. That the writing of the villain is especially sub-par. Now, I don't disagree...but I have a sneaking suspicion that the story was originally going to be slightly different. Or at least, the villain was. To prove it, I'm going to analyze one particular scene. 

SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT. 

So, Chairman Rose...what a wasted opportunity he was. Like many other people, I don't understand his justification for triggering the Darkest Day, and I'm not altogether sure that even he understands why he did it. Because immediately following the boss battle against him, Rose seems to have seen the error of his ways and turns himself in - which we don't even see. Now, I like the idea of a Pokemon villain realizing they did wrong and submitting to the authorities at the end, but there was just no buildup for it. This is the Pokemon equivalent of a CEO in the real world trying to start World War III in an effort to stop the Sun from eventually turning into a red giant. Only to realize six hours later that it’s a ridiculous idea. Why exactly did Rose want to do this? What changed his mind? 

I think we all knew Rose was going to be the Big Bad, right from the beginning. 

He's just too similar in set-up to previous villains like Lysandre, and the Cipher Leaders. Any time there's a huge, important businessman who everyone knows and respects, who has all sorts of influence and has his fingerprints on everything in the region...it's a telltale sign that he's the main villain. What I don't think we expected, though, was just how genuine Chairman Rose was. How little evil he seemed to have in his heart. Sword and Shield ultimately portray him as a good man who had the right intentions...he just made a terrible mistake along the way. Is he even really a villain? Even Oleana's behavior is more antagonistic than his. 

Which, in retrospect, makes one particular scene downright strange. 

The scene after the fourth gym battle, where Bede is caught using Rose's Copperajah to destroy the Mural. After the player defeats him, Rose and Oleana show up with League Officials. (Or maybe they're Macro Cosmos members...Macro Cosmos is such a nonentity in the game that I honestly can't tell.) At which point, Rose reveals that he all but raised Bede, taking him in and putting him through Trainer's School. Giving him his first pokemon, as well as endorsing him for the Gym Challenge. First thing's first...didn't the game previously make a joke about Rose not remembering who Bede was, while Bede was fanboy-ing over him? Seems like a weird thing to happen in retrospect, doesn't it? If you're the Pokemon League Chairman, you might not remember every Trainer you’ve ever endorsed...but you would surely remember your surrogate son, right? 

Rose then punished Bede for his actions by disqualifying him from the Gym Challenge and having the League Officials confiscate his wishing stars. To be honest, that second part is...pretty much stealing. It's not like Bede was ever shown stealing the stars from anyone else, only collecting them from public places, just like how any other trainer collects items off the ground. It's not like Rose had any excuse to confiscate them, but we do know Rose was very interested in collecting the wishing stars to help reawaken Eternatus. So I’d wager that was why he took them. Plus, I'd just like to point out that it's never outright confirmed that he didn't know about Bede's plan ahead of time or approve of it. We only have his word on that. Rose might have even spearheaded the plan, though in fairness, Bede doesn't say anything to suggest this. 

But more importantly, disqualifying Bede is completely out of left-field. 

Regardless of whether or not everyone thinks that destroying the Mural was reprehensible...disqualifying Bede from the Gym Challenge makes no sense at all. Bede even hints at this, acknowledging that there are plenty of other ways that the problem could be sorted out. The Chairman most likely has the authority to disqualify Gym Challengers, but he would surely need grounds to do so - and Bede's actions just don't pass muster. Nothing he did had anything to do with the Pokemon League. It's not like he cheated in a Gym Battle. It's not like he sabotaged another challenger. It's not like he tried to skip a Gym Puzzle, or challenge the Gyms out of order. (That would be a stupid reason as well, but at least it would make sense.) Bede destroying the Mural has no effect on the Gym Challenge, and yet Rose insists that he needs to keep things "fair and sportsmanlike." Which Bede wasn't a threat to. Sure, he needs to face consequences for his actions, but disqualification is such a random punishment. In fact, you could really argue that Bede didn't break any rules at all - it  comes down to whether or not that Mural belonged to anyone. Cause if it didn't, then you'd be hard pressed to find an excuse to punish Bede for anything beyond, I don’t know, taking Copperajah? Well no, wait a minute, he asked first. So that’s out the window too. 

I could sympathize with Rose if it truly pained him to do his job and disqualify his surrogate son - but there was no reason to do it. If anything, you'd think he would show a little leniency for Bede if he really does care about him, and if we're to believe Rose's words, the sob story about raising him, then he does care about Bede. But he just cuts him off entirely and kicks him out of the Gym Challenge. Even though Bede said he was gathering the wishing stars for Rose...and Rose still took them...and it was Rose's pokemon that Bede destroyed the Mural with...and Bede is a child, which for some reason seems to matter in Galar, (Leon uses this excuse to keep you out of the action, even though children and adults have always been treated as equals in this universe.) so realistically...why isn't Rose facing any consequences? I think it's because he immediately cast all the blame on Bede and exacted punishment. I think he was trying to clean up the problem as quickly as possible. I think he was cutting Bede loose once Bede started to make him look bad. 

But that doesn't really jive with the interpretation of Rose that the story ultimately gives us, does it? 

He turns out to be a good person who made a mistake. So what was up with the way he treated Bede? Early to mid game really seems to suggest that Rose is using Bede's admiration of him, that he was grooming him and using him as a pawn. I personally think that Rose was originally going to be a far more evil villain then he ended up being - I mean, just listen to his battle track. Yes, it's epic, but does it suit him at all? No way, it would fit characters like Ghetsis or Cyrus far more. The Mural scene though, to me, is the biggest clue that the developers changed the story mid-way through. It just seems like such a clear case of Rose manipulating Bede and then throwing him away once he became a liability. Honestly, when I first watched that scene - was I the only one who got deeply uncomfortable with how Rose just completely crushed Bede's hopes and dreams, and broke his heart, all while acting like he was doing the right thing? I can't stress this enough - that was his surrogate son, and Rose didn't even try to defend him. Not helping is the fact that, while Bede's character arc continues, he never shares another scene with Rose after the Mural scene. We never get to see what would happen between them if they met again, and I really wanted to know. 

Watch that scene again with the interpretation that Rose is manipulating Bede, that he's the same type of affable, emotionally abusive parent that Lusamine and Ghetsis were. I'm telling you, it makes way more sense, and if it were actually true, it would be really clever and creepy foreshadowing. So I'm convinced that Rose was planned to be much more wicked than he ultimately was...and the story probably would have been better for it. 

[oppressiveliberator]

What were Ghetsis’ parents like? How did they raise him?

((I feel like I may have strayed away from answering a little bit. . .so if you want more information, feel free to ask!! but uh hopefully this answers the question at least a little bit!

also i am so so sorry if this doesn’t cut on mobile i tried

Ghetsis's parents were somewhere along the lines of your typical members of the Harmonia family. Serious and industrious, Harmonias tend to be ambitious and goal-oriented with a good amount of perfectionism and maybe a bit too much traditionalism. No room for failure. Set up for success.

Ghetsis was raised like many of his family were--pushed into doing this, trying that, pursuing one thing or another. He absolutely minded it, but if he made a fuss, his parents, hell a good amount of his whole family, would make a fuss right back, and he learned to play the part of a normal and good little boy--but he was happy to do the things he was interested in, like music. Most if not all Harmonia children are pushed towards musical arts in their upbringing, unless they show skill in another field(especially the arts.) Ghetsis learned to sing and play instruments, and because he actually enjoyed doing so, he excelled at it and was held in high regard by his parents and older relatives.

And even the things he wasn't so interested in, he, for his own pride and with the encouragement and eyes of his family on him, saw little room for error or failure. He was the best, and his family proclaiming him a prodigy among an already prodigal family, his parents pushing him more and more. . .it was stressful, but pleasing, the attention and admiration and pride.

They remained blissfully unaware to Ghetsis's antisocial behaviors. The stress he felt manifested in abusive and manipulative behavior towards Pokémon and other people where he could get away with it--and as the golden child(and eventually as he realized his inert, passive magical influence over people) he could get away with a lot. Of course, atop that, Ghetsis learned to act very well--as sometimes he couldn't get away with everything, and to be less inhibited he could easily play the part of a normal son. They didn't know how bad Ghetsis had gotten until, well, around BW, if they were alive at the time. (I'm still undecided as to whether or not they're still alive--people in the Pokémon world probably live pretty long lives, y'know?)

Ghetsis was raised by his parents, his family, and their house staff--the Harmonias are a massive and wealthy family, so Ghetsis never truly learned want. He had the best tutors money and influence could buy. If he wanted toys? Games? Food? Trips? Friends? He had them. They found his lack of overall interest in Pokémon as pets a bit odd--they had plenty around, they had plenty of familial ties to their Pokémon, plenty of relatives who worked with them or were skilled trainers, coordinators, actors, athletes with their Pokémon and Ghetsis didn't really seem to care for them much outside of their battling abilities and on a behavioral level and how they could benefit him. When it came to pokémon knowledge, training, he remained a genius and remained skilled. With that in mind, they figured his lack of interest was simply a focused mindset on work and improvement.

Of course, when his passive ability to get his way didn't work as well, they could also be quite strict with him. Asking questions, doing prohibited things, talking back, getting dirty, making messes, breaking rules, these all were, of course, met with discipline, though not nearly as bad as Ghetsis would come to discipline others. Ghetsis, until he learned to play the part of the perfect son, would get into his fair share of troubles for his backtalk and smart mouth and aggressive, tantrum-like demands.

A good son, a good Harmonia, wouldn't act like that. For a while, he was a spoiled brat. While they were wealthy and had a background in the politics and royalty of the region, as power began to become more democratic they dropped their regality--but Ghetsis learned of it in his studies, both personal and tutored, and began to lionize himself. This calm and powerful royal attitude only brought his parents more pride. Perhaps he'd grow into law or politics! He could be a top tier trainer, an Elite Four member, perhaps open a gym or even become Champion! With his skills in the arts, he could become a singer, a musician, with his practical knowledge, a scientist, a mathematician, a doctor--his parents and family at large made sure he knew the great many things he could do and could be growing up. His tutoring got more intense--he quickly grasped the 'elementary' and middle school requirement levels of schooling, and did high school and even some college equivalent work until he was old enough to head out on his journey as a Pokémin trainer.

They were strict and demanding and pushy, but proud of the prodigal son they had.

Heavily being raised around his own family members, Ghetsis gained little tolerance for people unlike them--or, rather, unlike him. So long as the flaws and idiocies Ghetsis pointed out weren't those of his parents, they remained proud. The lack of exposure to the vast and variant world didn't occur to them as being dangerous--Ghetsis learned about the world in books and media anyway.

Ghetsis never had want for anything and was scarcely denied anything.

Except for magic.

The worst punishment he ever remembered receiving from his parents was when he was some 3-5 years old and first became aware of his own magical abilities. They were quick and aggressive with shutting it down, telling him not to do, pursue, or think about it ever again. They themselves thought magic to be unnatural for humans--something Pokémon had, and as such something inhuman, barbaric, inappropriate. They were rather religious also--and so humans using the powers Pokémon could. . .it was a bit blasphemous to them.

Ghetsis learned that the higher powers--be they the spirits in everything the more Native Unovan side of his family spoke of, or Arceus or the Original Dragon or Zekrom or Reshiram or God or whatever else--made the rules. Below them were other, human higher powers. . .and he didn't understand. Was shut down for his blasphemy.

They control Pokémon. Why view them as gods?

Most of the Harmonia family was religious. They figured he would grow out of it in time, so he was scolded until he learned to behave, though it was one of the few things he never really bothered to fake. He acknowledged them as stronger, creatures to be respected, whether he believed that or not, but never fully acknowledged them as gods, so much as controllers of many parts of nature. It was close enough for his parents.

All in all? Ghetsis was very much spoiled. Ghetsis got what he wanted from his parents and family. He was the prodigal golden child and he could get away with damn near anything as a result. They raided him somewhat religiously and never really grasped that it didn't quite click to him that some Pokémon were to be revered as gods.

They were pushy and encouraged him to pursue any field he wanted to--which led to ghetsis having a lot of fingers in everything and great pressure on him. They didn't notice the stress this caused because Ghetsis never showed it. They never noticed his antisocial and other behavioral/emotional problems because ghetsis learned to hide them to get his way. He was skilled, genius, confident, he was the best son they could ask for(aside from things like doing chores and the like but they paid people for that stuff.) He could have anything he wanted and do anything he wanted so long as he respected them, respected the deity Pokémon, and didn't use magic. They shoved their interests at him, paraded him around. Damn near the whole family used him as a model for what a good child should have been.

In the end, Ghetsis turned ten, got his trainer's license. and set off on his own journey. He was offered the best and strongest and best bred Pokémon money could buy for his starter--Pokémon already well above the strengths of his peers and then some--but he humbly started small with a Tynamo he would raise himself. His parents frowned upon this--a Tynamo was so weak and incapable! He could at least get a head start with an Eelektrik, something that wasn't a baby that couldn't even learn moves via TM/HM, but he wanted to raise it and strengthen it all by himself--he didn't need their help with training. He was an "adult" now. He was old enough to be on his own and out in the world and they'd always boasted at how skilled and smart he was! so why not let him challenge himself and show just how good he was by raising something pathetic into something amazing?

They were befuddled when he came back home, still with the measly little Tynamo, and decided to challenge a family member to a battle--his Tynamo against their Palpitoad. They had a Tympole that they were 'using improperly' he said--and he'd take it if he won.

And even though all Tynamo could do was tackle, it still fucked up that Palpitoad and everybody was shocked and impressed. And Ghetsis went back off with his new little tiny fish, saying that he would take Pokémon from anyone who misused them. The Tympole had amazing stats--and they wanted to use it for music, when clearly it should be a battling Pokémon. Pokémon abusers and misusers beware--and his parents were so proud of his sense of justice.

Proud and completely ignorant.

They checked in on him and invited him home regularly and he visited as he made his way through the region collecting badges and pokémon and studying Unovan history--a historian, an archeologist! They stayed proud of Ghetsis for a long time and kept contact with him until he started to speak less to them, mainly as he was busy travelling the world.

When Ghetsis messed up his arm, he was in his teens or early 20′s at most.  He refused to tell them what had happened to it, and they were concerned for their boy having had lost his dominant arm.  They wanted him to see doctors, get all kinds of treatment and if it couldn’t be restored it could be replaced with the best tech available, but Ghetsis refused.  They’d had a similar reaction to the loss of his eye.  His refusals confused them--and made them a bit angry.  He’d always said he was perfect, was going to be the best, they wanted him to be the best and represent the family as the best so why allow himself to stay in these conditions?  But they still respected his decision even if they were a bit disgusted and heavily disagreed.  That he continued to be so successful despite his injuries made them proud, certainly, but “think of what you could do if you were better” and so on.

One day, while living back at the Estate as he did some research and business in Unova, Ghetsis brought home a little green baby. His parents didn't know he had a partner at the time. . .he said he was going to the woods as he often did, but he came back with a child? Who was this child's mother? The child looked like Ghetsis in damn near every facial feature.  They couldn’t get the information out of him and couldn’t work it out themselves.  He was very dismissive with regards to any questions about the child.

When Ghetsis's family began to realize Natural's seeming ability to understand Pokémon and communicate with them, that who turned to what quickly. What was that thing? His parents were horrified--they'd discouraged his magic, and yet Ghetsis, while surprised, was not offput by this freakish ability at all. Under pressure from his family, the child was supposedly discarded, returned to the woods for fate to decide. Displeased, Ghetsis moved back out, saying he had more work he needed to do elsewhere.

Their relationship got a bit rockier after that. . . .  And with Ghetsis being busy with Team Plasma and his other pursuits, nothing ever really got clarified or made up for, their communicating becoming less and less as Ghetsis got busier.

[whale-shark-queen]

You mentioned fucked up weird AUs in your one post? I'm interested. Tell me about your favourite one(s)!!

AAAaaaah thank you so much!!

Uhhhhhhh heck most of them involve N turning into some horrible Thing because he’s the Estranged Outsider with a Connection to the Bad Guys Even If It’s Not Willingly (yknow like how Eren from snk is a titan shifter or Rin from blue exorcist is part demon) and all of them involve vuvuzelashipping (Nxall the Nuvema lot) I don’t really have a single favourite but I’ll summarize the ones I like most (also note that some of them are good dad Ghetsis/Dadsis aus because u gotta balance out the angst somehow plus dadsis aus are Cool)

Under the cut because I literally can’t summarise for shit and I’m sure no one wants to scroll past 3 pages worth of this (mobile users I apologise since the app is SHIT and refuses to even acknowledge these) 

Also here’s a bit of an index so u can skip to ones that sound interesting instead of going through them all but first u should ask nationalharmonica about her aus bc I love all of hers and they’re awesome and need more love and she also helped with alot of these aus too!! ESPECIALLY the Dragonflower au which I won’t include here because I think she has it on her blog somewhere already.  If ur wondering why I haven’t posted any of these it’s because a) i have neither the skill, time or patience to draw up proper references for all of the characters involved and b) I’m always worried theyll seem too Out There for some people but here we go au masterpost i guess, if anyone reading would like more info feel free to ask!!!

Bacterial Contamination inspired au aka bacterial pestileNce

BotW au

Ib au

PMMM au (the longest one)

Plasma/Aether swapover, N wins+UB monochromeshipping au

Simple fNaf dadsis au

sister locatioN dicksis au (yes I have two for that because I only found out about the secret springtrap cutscene at the end of SL that changes everything the other day)

Nombie (dadsis) au

isolatioN au- Au based on the song Bacterial Contamination.  N goes to the snobbiest most pretentious school you can imagine only because his ex mafia boss dad wants the best for him.  N hides the fact he’s being relentlessly bullied until a teacher phones Ghetsis up asking why N is in such a state whenever he comes into school (BC bruises and cuts and looking roughed up in general).  N goes to therapy and gets meds but surprise they’re an experimental drug and he’s a bug boy now

- BotW au where Touya is Link, Cheren as Revali, Bianca is Mipha and Touko is Zelda.  Ghetsis (who is kinda like Demise if he hung around to make sure his curse worked) is the king of a neighboring region who’s a bit of a warmongering asshole but his son N is friends with princess Touko and her…ahem, associates, which is the only reason Touko’s dad stays civil with him at all.  He uses this to his advantage and infects N with the Malice and reveals his plan to take over Unova, knowing fine well that N would run away to Touko for help.  The truth is he’d set up N to be a ticking time bomb and eventually he becomes the Calamity.  After the whole ~100 year coma and releasing the divine beasts~ thing Touya only remembers who N is after killing him but dw there’s a blood moon just as Touko is sealing the Malice away and N’s freed spirit is brought back to become a friendly giant fluffy spider boy just because I said so

- Ib au with N as Mary (obv Ghetsis is Guertena) except instead of going crazy and trying to kill everyone and being burned up and dying himself the toutous make him sit in the frame while they drag it out of the portal to the real world: problem solved.  I have all this stuff about the others being able to step into his frame but he can’t leave unless someone else draws him so he can possess the drawing but I won’t go into it here BC this post is gonna be long enough already

-Okay I have two madoka aus because possibilities for N are Ndless but I’ve only really developed the dicksis version whereas I only have a witch design for a possible dadsis version so here’s the dicksis one.  The first: Ghetsis is kinda like Walpurgisnacht and N was originally a familiar that represented Ghetsis’ interest being only in things that directly oppose him who was becoming powerful enough to become a witch of his own.  Not wanting him to have even a fraction of power himself Ghetsis transformed him into a human shape, gave him sentience and intelligence and as close to a pure heart as possible so he would be easier to manipulate and led him to believe that magical girls/boys hunt down innocent witches for fun and have witches trapped in their soul gems and tasks N with stealing people’s soul gems to ‘free the witch inside’.  The problem is that the alteration gave N the mindset of ‘innocents who aren’t involved must be protected at all costs’ rather than Ghetsis’ mindset of ‘don’t give a fuck about anyone unless they’re a problem’.  N is also sent to integrate into human society so that he can find magical peepos easier so he ends up coincidentally going to school with the Nuvema kiddos.  He ends up becoming friends with them until he finds out Cheren and Bianca are magicas (I’m just gonna call them that for simplicity) but even though the toutous arent magicas they still support them which is all very upsetting and conflicting for N but he tries his best to protect the witches and steal more soul gems until the others eventually call him out on it and prove to him that the shit Ghetsis told him is bull.  When he goes to confront him about it it’s too late, Ghetsis has absorbed enough witches to become a Walpurgisnacht-like entity, and finally allows N to become a witch.  I’ll link the drawings I’ve done of him but basically his labyrinth would be like a puppet theater and even tho hes the witch he’d have this fuckin giant messed up ghetsis-lookin puppet master familiar who pulls at his strings and coordinates his attacks.  There’d be an audience of masked figures that look like all the magicas he’s caused the deaths of, tiny animals with scissors to represent his wish for freedom and also his fear of his ‘father’ since they never actually get to cut the strings holding him up, and figures that look a heck of a lot like the nuvema kiddos watching in a balcony.  This is all tied into a theory I came up with that almost all the witches are able to be saved since yknow how Homura had that figure of Madoka locked away and Madoka was able to bring her back, and how Sayaka had the violin guy and Charlotte had that doll that probably represents her dead mother? My guess is that if the people those figures represent are brought to the witch and reach out to them the magical girl inside would be able to be freed.  But yeah since N was never really a human the Nuvema kiddos can only really save a fraction of his conscious and he ends up like Bebe.  They all beat the shit out of Ghetsis and everyone lives happily ever after with their pocket witch bf

- the au where 1) plasma and aether are sort of swapped around and 2) N beats the toutous in the final battle.  This is actually based on nationalharmonica’s courtesaN au which is awesome BTW (but it doesn’t involve actual courtesans or N being a courtesan at all but its Sarah’s au so if you’re interested you should totally ask her about it).  Ghetsis keeps Touko and Touya prisoner and just to rub it in their faces blackmails Cheren and Bianca into joining and doing sciency experiment shit which ends up with Touko and Touya becoming UB fusions/hybrids themselves; Touya with Kartana and Touko with Celesteela.  Ofc in the later stages they are able to destroy their place of confinement and escape with Cheren and Bianca to find N who becomes understandably fucked off and upset that his friends have been put through all this shit but begs them not  to kill Ghetsis so he can ask what’s going on.  When he does Ghetsis stabs him with a syringe full of UB fusion shit because he knows fine well hes gonna die he just wanted a final ‘fuck you’ before he is killed by both fire and paper cuts.  Surprise! It’s a Guzzlord.  N becomes a big squishy boy. I’ve done drawings of N in human Guzzlord fusion/hybrid form but I’ve been afraid of posting it but uh if anyones interested i will

- Simplified fNaf dadsis au - basically N and the Nuvema kiddos are the ones that were killed and stuffed in the animatronics, Ghetsis owns the place but risks going bankrupt pouring money into helping find the culprit and also his son and his friends when they’ve been stuck in the one restaurant he kept open to stay afloat.  Nate is the new nightguard and they decide to fuck with him to get rid of some of the boredom of being alone together in the one building for like…30 years or so.  In the end they fess up and make Nate pizza as an apology and they’re chill again

- sister locatioN dicksis au - I already summarised a thing i wrote of it in response to an anon but I’ll include here too.  Once again Ghetsis owns all the shit with the animatronics.  Anthea and Concordia get killed by one of them when they were young so years later Ghetsis sends N down to ‘free’ them (surprise he only wanted to get rid of N) but since their spirits have been fused into one hideous amalgamation of animatronics they’ve gone a bit loopy and want to leave.  The whole scooping room thing ensues and they accidentally turn their brother into a zombie

- Nombie au bc Z is a sideways N heheh I ahven’t thought up much of the background for it but it involves Plasma being a pharmaceutical company that is sort of accidentally being the cause of it.  N gets separated from his dad who ends up being the leader of a large group of people in a little town sort of thing they were able to reclaim but is Sad bc he thinks his son is dead which ends up being half true bc surprise N is half immune and ends up being a conscious zombie boy who wears a curtain as a cloak so he doesnt immediately frighten people bc he got his eye shot out by hillbilies, his face scratched up, his throat bitten out and his heart impaled on a pole (hes a freak without a human heart geddit) zombie apocalypse stuff happens

- isolatioN au - basically spawned from the thought of ’what if N was kept even more hidden away/locked up/never even left at all’.  Plasma is instead secretly in the Pokemon poaching/hunting/selling business but are disguised as…well you already know about Plasma.  The nuvema kiddos had varying levels of rough childhood and were desperate for money so they all joined up; the toutous as night guards and the dualrival s as researchers.  Hidden deep in the facility is a certain tree haired manchild who has been kept in a cage for pretty much his entire life.  Ghetsis does a mother gothel and makes out its to keep him safe and brings him Pokemon to ask about where they live and what other kinds of Pokemon live there so that Ghetsis can release them safely back into the wild go hunt for more Pokemon in the area if there’s anything good there

There’s a few more that I have but I won’t include them because im worried it’d be a waste of time if no one takes interest in any of these but uh thanks for asking and reading if you did!!!