#but thats what hes read about in all the queer history!! they try to hide it all
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yrsonpurpose · 3 months ago
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Deep down you’re a gigantic, sappy, embarrassing romantic who just wants the happily ever after.
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Hazel Muses about dead peoples romantic/sexual lives and if they were queer or not.
So Like trying to put labels on people isn’t the best. But I’m trying to figure out this whole Sylvia Fine Danny Kaye thing and its like historical curiosity I guess. Like in the time and place they lived you couldn’t really talk about these things and knowledge of them sometimes just wasn’t there.
Like looking at Danny Kaye, traumatized youth who became a funny guy to survive. just pretty normal human stuff. But also learning to dance in like 6 months for a movie, becoming the top non-asian chinese chef, learning to pilot planes, learning to conduct despite not being able to read music, able to replicate accents well enough that native speakers would be really confused they couldn’t understand the utter nonsense he was saying with the accent, etc. This seems to me like he was probably autistic. Not that uh thats what I’m getting at. just a tangent.
So Danny was married to a woman named Sylvia Fine. And this seems to have been primarily a business/friend relationship. They did have a child, but only one. Danny was known to cheat on Sylvia, but I wonder if it was actually cheating, because really from what I can tell Sylvia seemed mostly okay with it. Other than a long affair Danny had with Eve Arden early in their relationship anyway.
So I’m kind of wondering if they were polyam or at least open in their relationships. I’ve seen no mention of affairs on Sylvia’s side. This could be because she was more discrete than Danny, or because she didn’t have them, or just because I have so little info.
From descriptions of her I at first felt, was she a lesbian? But the more I think about this I kinda feel like she was ace. Like she just wasn’t really interested with Sex, but since Danny was she let him go out and have sex. I’m not sure the two even had a strong romantic attachment. I’ve seen stuff that says they didn’t here. And descriptions kind of make me feel like Danny was aromantic/demi romantic. And maybe Sylvia was as well. Like they had a light romantic connection, a strong bond that many people wouldn’t necessarily recognize as romantic.
But I have no way to know really. They’re both dead. I can’t ask them. They’re daughter is still alive, but how aware are most children of their parents sexual/romantic lives?
This could also just be me just not wanting Danny being some Philanderer who was constantly Breaking Sophie’s heart and torturing her over their long marriage.
Anyway I feel like they were a queer couple. And looking at all this old music, you just see so many examples of queer people, that we just pretend weren’t. And because we pretend they weren’t the fact that they were gets lost to history, so that later generations don’t realize they were. So it seems like queer history is empty. It always looks empty.
But we know a lot of these people were queer. I don’t mean like by analyzing and wondering like I’m doing here. We know that one of the Andrews sisters was queer. Her long time partner has talked about it. Billie Holiday was bi apparently. It wasn’t even really a secret at the time. Not to people who knew her at least. But this history is hidden. Sure today it’s not too hard to find if you go to look for it. Details perhaps are lacking, but I don’t need to know the names of Billie Holidays various lovers. It’s just so strange that all of this is shoved back and hidden in the depths of a dusty old broom cupboard. Like queer people have always existed. People that you love, whose voices have moved you, whose acting has brought a smile to your face are queer. But you can’t love that part of them? You have to hide it and pretend it doesn’t exist? How can you love queen’s music, and not acknowledge that you love a queer person? You pretend that Freddie Mercury wasn’t bi when you listen to it. Most of you think he was gay, but you know he was queer. But you pretend that he wasn’t when you listen to his music. You hate queer people, oh but that Freddie Mercury you love his music. How? I just don’t understand how you can love someone like that, but hate such an integral part of them.
How are people homophobic, when they love so many homos?
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migleefulmoments · 6 years ago
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Jason Momoa is wearing a PINK tuxedo at the Oscars. According to Abby's color "signs", he must be gay, and in a suffocating closet marriage!
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The CCers have spent the week claiming that Darren got married so that he looks less “queer” (they are so thoughtfully inclusive until Darren can legally clarify where on the LGBTQ spectrum he identifies himself) #“no homo”. He needs to look less queer so he can get “straight roles or a superhero role”. As if to prove the ccers are full of crap, Aquaman, Jason Momoa wore a pink tuxedo to the Oscars. We know pink is Darren’s color and OMG, it’s so gay.
This trope is silly of course. Ajw- “who has incredible insight”- claims she doesn’t believe he wants to play a superhero-thats too simple I guess. Or maybe she remembered “if he gets married, it’s his decision ”. Whether the Chairman of the Board believes it or not, I saw a lot of comments repeating the “he got married in order to play straight roles or a superhero” trope.  At some point when they were raging over the wedding and trying to figure out WHY? WHY? the trope was born and the minions were all over it. 
I found this post when looking for a post to show the trope.  I know ajw is denying it here, but this thread is pure gold and if you haven’t read it-or even if you have- do yourself a favor and give it a read. It is the definition of ridiculous.  
ajw720 answered:
Anon, trust me, I am here and I am supporting him, I didn’t leave even though i was tempted to and I am finding this difficult because her smug face makes my stomach churn, but I do have the right to have questions.  
This action very much confuses me as I watched him fight and I cannot figure how this happened. I agree, i think there was extreme duress and threats.  I would guess his ability to work was threatened because I do not buy for one second he did this to get straight roles or superhero roles. I also would not be surprised if they threatened C as well.  There are powerful people that have enormous influence in the industry and they have a lot to hide when it comes to the closeting of D, the closeting of CC (again KEY), the extreme abuse of D, the continuance of keeping him tied to a beard that is harmful to his emotional and physical being.
One of the goals i believe is that TPTB want us to believe that this is entirely his fault.  And right now, in the public eye, to those who know he is queer, that is the assumption.
I have incredible insight into the situation and I am well aware of what his vile team, bosses, and beard have put him through, to some level and so I am extremely concerned about this latest move.  But i am not going anywhere. Quite frankly, I am one of the handful of people that is keeping this fandom in tack, something I do think he needs right now. But I do think we all have a right to be critical and to be confused without being harsh.  And I am very much trying to walk that line because I cannot fathom being in his shoes. And the fact that C is still supporting him tells me this is not something he wanted even if he agreed to go along with this sham.
cassie1022
I’ve had my time to be angry with him, and I will admit that was my initial reaction. I hate that he felt this was his only option. It breaks my heart that he’s in this situation. I very much fear for his safety, as I don’t think many people understand just HOW powerful TPTB are and what happens to people that come to be seen as a liability (apparently Darren signed a contract with the mob)
All of that being said, I will never walk away when he/they need us most. But, I too, have many questions that I wish we could get some resolution for.
Oh, and just for the record? I don’t think I’ve ever had a stronger desire to punch a condescending smirk off someone as I did when those airport pics surfaced. I didn’t feel that way about the “wedding” photos because, well, she did an excellent job making herself look ridiculous and the GA did all the tearing her to shreds for me.
chrisdarebashfulsmiles
Nobody is mocking him. But we don’t have to be hypocrite if we are against something. The fact that almost all the people of our fandom are still here in a way or another despite everything I think it’s very telling about the support. Despite the fact of being pissed or annoyed because of the sham wedding.
ajw720
Fact is, TPTB literally have laid him out at the altar as the sacrificial lamb to atone for all of THEIR sins.  And it sucks, and we have a lot of emotions about it. Mine vary literally from one minute to the next (and yes i accept that i care too much), but now that the wedding is over and there is a “marriage” lavender or not, I am concerned how the next few months/years play out.  Because has to deal with her demands that were bad enough as the public gf and fiancee. What will she be like as the wife?
kfs1001
If we go by history, we can pretty much extrapolate what she may be like. The question I would love to know is what safeguard did D get out of all this? If this is is just and extension of his previous contract, he must have gotten something in return? Now this I can but speculate on but I can strongly assume it includes protections for his true relationship with C. I can see a career path as a second measure.
Two me, the scary bit is the power on industry can hold out someone in a country were freedom is held so high. How can a contract supercede fundamental rights?
Regardless of everything D faced a yes or no question. Yes, marry and face the consequence and, no, come out an face the consequence. Yes and no a simple facts in life. No must have been a super hard pill to swallow, but in all this, somehow, I believe he had a win we may never see.
Not everything is black and white. With D ww see a prime example the question now resolves around not what was but what will come. We will see D rebelling as we have come to known…tongue in check…as the picture goes.
We are all here to support D and C in our own ways. Some ar vocal and direct, while others are mor subtle. In our own ways we have their backs. Going forward as a community that is all we can do.
flowersintheattic254
Unfortunately I’m someone who maybe harsher right now. Am I sad for him - yes because he’s made himself look fool. (wait chrisdarebashful just said “Nobody is mocking him!”)
I believe he knew it would be a spectacle. I believe he spent this year distancing himself from the wedding arrangements during interviews. He knew how this sham wedding would look and the shit storm it would produce amongst his fans and I think at some point made his peace with it. I’m not sure how he managed that but I think he did. (let’s be honest here- NOT his fans, just amongst the ccers) 
Maybe all his choices in this instance were equally shit, but there are more people involved here than just D. When did his forced choices have to impact so many people?
I’m less concerned with the rebellion. Tbh I saw the nail varnish and sighed and rolled my eyes.
ajw720
@flowersintheattic254 you know more than almost anyone the extent of my feelings and why. And I agree, no matter the options, this isn’t the choice I would have made. Life is the most precious thing we have. So I do have a really hard time comprehending it.
And I still would like to know why he did some of the things he did before this happened. You know precisely what I’m talking about.
I’m jus trying really hard to get clarity and answers.
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fizzy-popper-blog · 6 years ago
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Raise Your Flag
Chapter 2
Sitting in his chair Alex takes out his phone. He texts his friend to see where they're at but he gets no response from anyone. Scowling he puts his phone away and grabs his textbook. His first period is language art, then math, history, science, and art. He personally couldn't wait for art, he's always been in touch with his hands and was always drawing on his bedroom walls. He remembers when he was five and found his mom's lipstick. He was drawing a bird when he heard his mother curse at him and then smack him on the back of the head. She made him clean it up with a bar of soap and a sponge until he passed out of exhaustion onto the floor. His mother left him there too busy wallowing in self-pity and whiskey. Frowning and scrunching up his eyebrows he lightly shakes his head as if to forget the memories that plague his broken mind. Looking at the smart board he is reminded of the osts that will begin in a few days. He knows enough that he'll pass with flying colors but that still won't be enough. He'll still be called stupid and worthless by his mom and compared to his dad. It may not be fair but thats how life works, life isn't well faring for great minds like Alex. The reached sea of stupidity sadly sinks any opportunity to shine with the greatest potential. Alex remembers last year that a bunch of girls went I to the destroy. and started to fight. Why the hell they did he has no idea but most of them got detentions so he didn't really care to complain. Even then they should have been expelled as dangerous and disobedient delinquents. But who's he to decide that, he's just a low life from the east side.
Getting his homework out he waits for the teacher to walk through the front door. Instead of the teachers, it's the popular kids. Oh shit, he thought, hope and pray to whatever god we have that they don't care to bother me. There must be a god above because the group of perfumed girls and boys didn't take notice to him. Letting out a sigh of relief he reviews his homework one last time. Nothing sticks out to him as wrong or unsure of, just completed. Satisfied with his work he sits back in the dingy school chair and thinks. His friend should be here by now considering that Jack would never let them skip. Alex has a class with them for almost every period except art since Nathan, Jewels, and Jack have gym and Katherin has a choir. No way in hell Alex would be able to survive any of those classes, he can barely walk to school without getting winded. So he sticks to subjects that require no or minimal exercise at all coast. Last year he passed out during gym because he couldn't breathe, scared the hell out of the gym teacher. It would have been funny if Alex wasn't
Being dragged to the paramedics outside the school building. Groaning and trying to hide his blushing face he false to see a group of people walking into his classroom.
"Hey look boys, its the fag from down the street, and he's all by his lonesome." The leader of the group sneers and pits his elbows on Alex's desk. Feeling that there was something going on some other teens stop what they're doing. Alex clears his through and responds, "I ain't-a fag boy, I'm bisexual you ignorant punk." Alex spits back. There was one female and two males. The female was a Hispanic girl, Avery, with black straight hair and brown eyes and averaged size. The two males were taller than the female by a few feet. The leader, Timothy, was a white male with dark hair and green eyes, his peach skin didn't have a mark on it, no blemishes or scars. The other male, Max, was a dirty blond boy with combed back brown hair. His eyes were a steel blue that scared Alex shitless. You'd think the leader would scare him but the leader wasn't obviously that smart. Max, on the other hand, was known for being the top student(mostly because his dad paid for him). And while muscles hight help once in the strength is where the brain is.
"Hah, says the one that hangs out with those fags." Timothy sneers, hoping to get under Alex"s skin. Not wanting to admit defeat Alex fires back. "Says the one who's more obsessed with his dick than anything, maybe that makes you gay for yourself." He didn't really think it was an insult but the boy didn't take it to well. He slams his hand on Alex's desk and gets in his face. "You better take that back fagget, or else," Alex smirks, he knows this isn't the best school but he knows that they have some standards that could get this punk expelled. That's unless his daddy pays the board off again. "The hell are you smirking for queer." The leader snaps, confused as to why Alex finds the situation amusing. "Looks like the fag has a death wish." This time it's Avery who speaks up. Alex is actually stunned that she would actually bother with him. He's seen her talk and curse right in front of the prince (granted everyone has sworn in front of him) not giving a shit, so why would she now? Blinking Alex sighs, he just wanted to have a quiet morning where he got all A's or B's and hang out with the gang. But that doesn't seem to be happening today. Timothy grabs Alex by the collar and goes to swing at him but the teacher walks in just in time. "Timothy Daten, a bit your behind down!" The language art teacher yells at Timothy and he immediately let's go with a push. He smirks at Alex and walks away with the other to.
Rolling his eyes Alex turns to the front of the classroom. This wasn't the first time a teacher had to step in and protect Alex from people like Timothy. People with closed minds close the world for other people. The teacher stands at the front of the class and relays what the lesson will be about. Alex would be paying attention but he's to focused on the poster board in the hallway and who might see his name. The last thing he needs is everyone else and their mom to know that he's part of the LGBTQ. Word spreads quickly around the school, especially in the halls. Nothing can get passed the gossip of a high schooler. Alex was just about to pay attention to the lesson when announcements came on. "Attention students, there is an early morning announcement concerning the new event presented by the student council." Alex quickly perks up and looks at the speaker, he doesn't really know why maybe it's just to be polite? "As you may know, if you pay attention that is, there is a poster in the main hall, now this poster is a one time chance for the school to celebrate one thing, this can range to appropriate items to holidays." The speaker pauses, they're likely reading from a flash card or something. "The winner will be announced at the end of the day considering there is still a whole day of school and you all need to focus." Some of the student groan. Guess Alex isn't the only one hanging on the edge of his seat.
"That will be all for morning announcements have a good day." As the announcements end the morning bell rings. Students rush to get into their classrooms and pretty soon the halls are a barren wasteland with paper and pencils littering the floor. As the lesson goes on Alex can't wait for the end of the day, not only to leave but to find out if he'll have the pleasure of a pride day. As he daydreams about what it would be like as a pride day the ending class bell rings. Students rush out of their seats to the classroom door. Following their lead, Alex rushes to his next period which is math then health, study hall, lunch, American History, Art, science then another unnecessary period just to torture students. Walking into his next period he starts to become dazed. What if he doesn't get the event, what if they make fun of him for trying to celebrate such a taboo thing. Frowning and looking down at his desk he realizes what an idiot he was to think something good would happen to him. He starts to shake with uncertainty, his heart starts to beat even faster and starts to sweat. Shooting up from his seat he runs out of the classroom, down the hall and to the men's restroom. He slams the door of a stall and sits on the toilet, covering his face with his hands. Breath, just breath. He tells himself repeatedly trying to calm himself down. This is the second panic attack this month, sadly that's a record.
Tears start to stream down his face. He tries to wipe them away but there are so many tears. Instead, he just lets them roll down his face and onto the bathroom floor. When he's done crying his face is wet and his eyes are iffy. He can't go back to class looking like this so he waits the whole period in the bathroom. He swears this reminds him of a theatre song but he can't remember which one.  He listens to so many songs that he mixes them up a lot. He starts to hum a lullaby to help calm himself more. It's the same lullaby that he would sing for himself when he was a toddler. He doesn't remember where he heard it from but it's soothing to him an that's all that matters to him. Alex sighs and stands up, brushes the dust of his clothes and opens the stall door. He walks to the mirror and looks at himself. His eyes are swollen and red from how much he was crying. Rubbing his eyes he grabs some paper towels and wettens them. He scrubs his face and stares at his hands. They are still shaking from his previous panic attack. He rubs his hands and shakes his head. They've always been shaky but now he wouldn't be able to hold a pencil. There isn't any point im him staying at school if he's like this. He throws the paper towns away and leaves the restroom. Walking down the has he reaches his locker. He'd just about to get his backpack and coat when the announcements come on. "Attention students, sorry for the afternoon interruption but we have an announcement. Because of popular demand, we will be announcing the winner for the special event." Alex quickly looks up at the speaker in the ceiling and crosses his fingers. "The winner for the special event is..." Alex holds his breath. "....Alex Hecht, for pride day!" He can't believe it. He finally won something. Something good actually happened to him Letting out his breath he slides down his locker. A smile grows on his face and he tries to hide it, but it's too big of a grin to hide. He stands up and jumps for the ceiling, fist pumps the air. He starts to twirl around and just has a good time. When he's done self celebrating he grabs his stuff with pride and locks his locker. Walking down the hallway with pride he walks to the nurse's office, tells her what happend and is excused from school for the day. He doesn't have anyone to pick him up so he's forced to walk home but he isn't fazed. He still has a dopey grin on his face and arrives home. He isn't fazed when his mom yells at him for being home. He jumps to his room and texts his friends. This is the best day and the most life-changing one he'll ever have.
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viralhottopics · 8 years ago
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‘The Arrangement’ Will Satisfy All Your Curiosities About Fake Celeb Relationships
The first thing you need to know about The Arrangement E!s new Hollywood-centric drama about a television actress who signs a contract to marry a movie star is that its definitely not, in no way,inspired by Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes and Scientology. At least thats what the shows cast and creators claim.
Weve all heard the rumors that the Church of Scientology allegedly auditioned actresses to become Cruises girlfriend before Holmes snagged the role and married him. Thats why comparisons between the shows Kyle West (Josh Henderson) and Megan Morrison (Christine Evangelista) the aforementioned movie star who belongs to a suspicious organization called The Institute of the Higher Mind and the struggling actress who is contracted to play his girlfriend and their suspected real-life counterparts are so hard to resist.
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Josh Henderson and Christine Evangelista in “The Arrangement” and Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes at the Vanity Fair Oscars Party in 2012. 
The Arrangement may seem very much inspired by Cruise and Holmes relationship on the surface, but the show is more about the machinations of the Hollywood PR machine and every over-the-top relationship rumor tabloid addicts read over the years.
The concept of the Hollywood contract relationship, otherwise known as a fauxmance or promance, dates back to the studio system of the early 20th century. Actor Rock Hudsons 1955 marriage to secretary Phyllis Gates was famously arranged by the actors agent, Henry Wilson, in an effort to hide Hudsons sexual orientation from the public. Spencer Tracy and Katharine Hepburn had audiences convinced of their love both on- and off-screen, but a 2012 memoir by Hollywood fixer Scotty Bowers claims their 26-year relationship was a decoy to distract from the same-sex relationships they both reportedly enjoyed.
Today, while Hollywood has become a friendlier place to openly queer actors, its possible there are relationships that are arranged to conceal a stars true sexual orientation; however, its far more plausible that a fauxmance might be concocted to promote a shared project or raise a couples collective profile.
Take Kaley Cuoco and Henry Cavills fleeting 12-day fling back in the summer of 2013, which was widely believed to be a fauxmance not that anyone could officially prove it, of course. There just seemed to be something curious about the fact that the two started dating right around the time Cavill was promoting Man of Steel, and that somehow the paparazzi seemed on-hand to document every single one of their dates. The fact that their relationship ended just as quickly as it started, combined with a suspiciously short timeline between Cuoco and Cavills breakup and her new romance with soon-to-be fianc Ryan Sweeting,added to suspicions their romance was less than authentic. Their coupling reeked of a PR-set up. Cuocoeven admitted to Cosmopolitanthat it brought her more attention than she ever received before.
I had no one following me until I met Superman. Ive been in this business for 20 years, and my whole life, I could go anywhere, do anything. There had not been one paparazzi photo of me until like seven months ago. The recognition has been crazy, she told the magazine in a 2014 cover story.
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Kaley Cuoco and Henry Cavill go shopping hand-in-hand at Gelsons in Sherman Oaks, CA on July 3, 2013. 
The problem with Cuocos statement is that while it used to be commonplace for the paparazzi to be out in full force following celebrities around town, hunting for that perfect picture, that happens far less often today unless you occupy the A-list.
Thanks to the tabloid boom in the early 2000s, being a paparazzo was a lucrative job.There seemed to be a heightened interest in seeing celebs doing mundane things, sparked in part by Us Weeklys Stars Theyre Just Like Us! feature. In the mid-2000s, the right photo could fetch hundreds of thousands of dollars,but that kind of payout has dried up since the introduction of social media, allowing celebrities more control over their own image.
And for someone like Cuoco, who was able to keep her relationship with her Big Bang Theory co-star Johnny Galecki secret for two years without anyone finding out, its difficult to believe the paparazzi were suddenly able to capture intimate moments of her 12-day romance with Cavill unless, of course, they were specifically tipped off.
For all we know, Cuoco and Cavills brief dalliance with one another could have been real, but its hard to deny the overwhelming professional benefits they both enjoyed from the blink-and-you-missed-it affair. Such is the case with what is probably the most-discussed alleged fauxmance in recent history Hiddleswift.
From their humble beginnings born out of totally not staged photos on the rocky shores of Rhode Island, Taylor Swift and Tom Hiddlestons extremely camera-ready relationship simply did not ring true for many fans. Hiddleston has gone on record claiming that of course [the relationship] was real, but believing that means ignoring aspects of their relationship that feel orchestrated.
The Hiddleswift relationship materialized seemingly out of nowhere, becoming public knowledge a mere day before Kim Kardashian accused Swift of lying about having approved lyrics to Kanye Wests song Famous. From a PR perspective, a new, showy relationship not only distracted from the allegations, but also drew focus from Swifts recent breakup with Calvin Harris.
If Swift benefited by trying to distract from negative attention, then Hiddleston, who was then known as a respected British actor, soaked up more attention both good and bad than hed ever experienced up to that point.
Though he took some flak for some of the more attention-grabbing moments of the relationship, like wearing an I T.S. tank top at the beach, becoming fodder for tabloid gossip seems to have proven beneficial for his career. During the time Hiddleston and Swift dated, the actor capitalized on his newly raised profile by growing his Twitter following from 2.8 million to 3.8 million, and he took the opportunity to join Instagram, where he amassed 1.1 million followers in a matter of weeks, according to Refinery 29.
Hiddleston wasnt an unknown before he dated Swift. In fact, he has two blockbuster movies Kong: Skull Island and Thor: Ragnarok due out this year. But every little bit of recognition helps when it comes to promotion and landing that next coveted role.
Observers of celebrity culture can only speculate over the authenticity of relationships like Hiddleswift and others that set off our collective bullshit detectors. Thats why gossip addicts will relish The Arrangement for painting Hollywood the way we assume it really is calculating and manipulative. From the specifics laid out in Kyle and Megans relationship contract, to staged interactions with celebrity exes, and the overreaching publicists and managers who pull all the strings, The Arrangement is rich in detail and probably more reflective of Hollywood than it would like to admit.
The Arrangement premieres Sunday, March 5, at 10 p.m. ET.
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