#but thats a more nuanced discussion already

[doloresdisparue]

i love when ppl Online are like "lolita is about how WOMEN are silenced" like i love nabokov but a) that man was NOT a feminist and b) dolores gender was entirely decided by the fact that his own child was a boy and if he'd had a girl the child in lolita would have been a boy he said that himself also male csa victims do not fare better in being believed and acting otherwise is not feminist i beg you to think for a hot second before posting

[transformersconfessions]

not to add to all the megastar confessions lately, but i would like to add my perspective as someone who is a big starscream fan and also has megastar as my current favorite ship.

first of all, i think its important to mention that obviously not every fan is going to be into it in the same way. some people may choose to play with them in more comedic, light hearted scenarios while others may be more interested in darker scenarios that dig into it as an abuse dynamic. for some people it really does boil down to finding it hot in some way, and for other people it may be a combination of all of this, or some other reason entirely. i personally am open to most intepretations of the dynamic, but i do gravitate to stories where they are framed as an abusive relationship, because thats what i find most compelling.

i think its entirely fair to feel uncomfortable by certain types of content, especially when it deals with triggering subjects. but those stories still serve a purpose for the people reading them. is the same reason some people read tragedies, because it's an evocative story, and a lot of people are interested in complicated characters and relationships purely because it makes for a good story, and not because they lack the ability to tell its wrong. people are generally capable of engaging with complicated themes in fiction without wishing to advocate for them in real life. i think the only reason ships like megastar end up being so controversial is because theres this idea that shipping involves viewing something as romantic, when shipping can also just be about finding something interesting. i dont see why liking terrible characters is deemed okay, but liking terrible relationships is not. why is one more dangerous than the other inherently? people have an aversion to dark subjects when it applies to romance and sex specifically. and this is fair on a personal level but cannot be used against others with different boundaries and limits.

when it comes to people finding it hot, i think people have a very reductive view on it. power dynamics are a common aspect of kink, and some people choose to explore said power dynamics through fiction. it doesnt mean you cant acknowledge that a dynamic like that would be horrible if replicated, but fantasy is rarely meant to be 1:1 with our real life desires. most sexual fantasies are not literal. and where does the line between finding something interesting and finding it erotic begin? where does it end? most people i know who find the relationship hot are very self aware of the nature of it, and simultaneously care a lot about it on a narrative level and are very dedicated to analyzing it and giving it thought. fiction can evoke multiple feelings on a person, and its not going to make you feel the exact same as if it was a real situation. stories are not meant to be treated exactly like real life, theyre meant to be treated like, well, stories.

this isnt to say abuse apologism cant be expressed through fiction, but it honestly doesnt look like what most people think it does. fanfiction with problematic relationships in a sexual light is often meant to be read within a fetishistic context where its already understood that these relationships are an exploration of certain fantasies and not supposed to be replicated, while there are certain stories that, for example, attempt to justify the abuse or act like its not happening because the author genuinely believes it is okay, and part of reading things critically means being able to understand what message the author wants you to come across. this absolutely applies to fan works as well. its a very nuanced discussion that has more to do with being able to understand the themes of fiction works and their purpose, but people boil it down to "dark fiction is inherently bad, and using fiction to explore dark sexual fantasies is also bad and means you believe abuse is okay."

i would also add that as someone who has been abused, the reality is that for a lot of victims it does leave us with complicated feelings for our abuser that are difficult to reconcile, and fiction is an avenue to explore that. my sexual fantasies were definitely impacted by my trauma, and thats a really ugly and uncomfortable truth, we dont like to think of victims as having complex feelings on our trauma or "gross" trauma responses, but it happens, and judgement like this certainly doesnt create safe spaces for those of us with unpalatable responses.

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[eegrroegguorroe]

OFFICIAL REVIEW copy pasted from discord dms

idk its blatant wishful thinking but i wish everyone would shut up about it cause cocsa is such a nuanced topic and everyone trying to get their takes in on it w/r/t kanye of all people while also fucking meming about it incessantly its almost even more harrowing than the song itself

its difficult because theres really nothing left to be said either; i was saying to a friend "he shouldnt be left completely alone" cause isolation can just fuel that psychological feedback loop buttt when everyone in ur corner is yes men and nitrus dealers its not like theres really any supports for him. its just a tragedy. so i can understand the hypothesizing over his mortality especially now with that looping graphic of him falling from the building in the 2nd half of that music video but i feel like (notably, usually white) peoples obsession with his (a black person) mortality is just getting weird and perverse

i do feel it is like the most accomplished work of this era of his as low as the bar may be. i like it more than bully v1 in its entirety and it goes without saying i like it more than all the ww3/cuck(?) snippets just for the fact that {besides the fact its not him proselytizing about hitler or diddy} i dont think theres ever been this popular a work so laserfocused on cocsa and its effects since, i dont know, samuel r delanys dhalgren & hogg, neither of which anybodys really read anyway. but yeah discussing it rationally trying to grade it at all just goes against my moral code. i dont want to be the english teacher harshly grading a deeply confessional personal essay but then pulling the student aside the next time i see them and giving them a list of hotlines i already had printed out months ago

yeah its harrowing thats the word that keeps coming back to me like despite all phenomenological barriers i think if you jsut replaced the definition of the english word "harrowing" in the oxford w/ a synopsis of kanye's life up until now and then an embed of that music video every single organism in the universe would be like "i completely understand" it is so strange

[re-ikrmso]

curly a stronger man than me cause if jimmy was talking all that shit to him on his fucking surprise birthday party i woulda started crying. new hc that curly was on the verge of tears, trembling lip, shaky breath upset while cutting his cake,

i like to also think that since not only were the rest of the crew like . able to pick up that jimmy’s being an asshole, and didnt hold a grudge against curly, i like to think they didnt hold it against curly also because (tied to my hc) they saw how upset he was

mention of s/a below, rant about curly + vent seeping in below

also cause. i been a curly, i view his talk with jimmy mainly as damage control to try and get him to not do anything stupid, anything decisive he could’ve possibly done was cut short by the ship goddamn crashing. yes i still agree curly kinda messed up handling shit like. the s/a already fucking happened. whhat is he supposed to do to undo it. i feel like some of the discussion sounds more like “why didnt curly stop jimmy”

thats why i have no issue with “what would you have done? anything.” curly didnt fucking know. i do think…he really wouldve. but now he has to deal with trying to make sure jimmy, a COPILOT wont fucking lash out again while they’re stuck in space.

and while some people do interpret the “kills 99.9 percent” flashing across the scene as curly thinking about helping jimmy get anya an abortion, it’s just a fucking thought. and priority on friends is something natural.

either im a exponentially fucked up person but if my friend did a shit thing my first thought would be “how can i help this”.

then again, this is coming from a person who will literally throw up trying to legitimately criticize or badmouth my former(?) friend that i was ride or die for. so go fucking figure. do people really drop thier friends that easy? (urgh. me when i got nearly thrown out/doxxed by my friends over false allegations)

but even so, that was just a moment. he wants to mediate shit. i do sincerely, sincerely think curly would have done something if he had the time to realize things and what he could do. murder is not a genuine solution. tying your COPILOT up is not a genuine solution. shoving your friend into a fucking cryopod without explanation is not a good idea nor would curly realistically think of that. Keeping an eye on Jimmy 24/7 by himself would be impossible/hard, and letting the crew on would need to have him and or anya tell them what jimmy did. and i hardly doubt anya would be on board to tell everyone else so quickly. like. but then the ship CRASHED. so we’ll never fucking know but i really like to give. a benefit of a doubt here.

or maybe im projecting a “what if” onto curly. hoping he was able to do something. when i failed. but curly is a fictional character that i am probably missing nuance on. so it is what it is.

[rocksibblingsau]

The fact that in real life Funk is a sub-genre/borned from R&B and in the troll universe is (implied to be) the opposite makes choosing music for the Funk tribe and assigning irl music to a troll's genre so weird and confusing.

Lets not even start with how Jazz and its different genres, Blues, Disco, Gospel, Soul and others would get mixed into this. It's already difficult to draw a hard line between them in real life since a lot of these genres originated from one another, influence each other and overlap quite often and are even sometimes fully grouped together (R&B been both its on genre, but also the grouping of Blues and Rhythm). It feels wrong to just completely mix them together into Funk or say they are a sub-genre of Funk because how different, nuanced and big each of these genres can be (and how many of them are older than Funk itself), but them being one of the main tribes and R&B already been a sub-genre of Funk in universe doesn't help.

Which leads to the question of again, we're does this leave Jazz? It has many roots in Blues and some jazz sub-genres are often group together with R&B and Gospel (forming the "genre" of Soul music), but most of Jazz can be and IS very different from Soul and Funk. And that is not even mentioning how heavily Jazz influenced Hip-Hop, R&B and even Funk. I think Im having a stroke...

Anyways, it seems that the lesson today is that even though the Troll Tribes are a fun and creative idea it also really simplifies and separates the topic of music genres abd music history, something thats famously complex and interconnected. I didn't even mentioned genres like Rock, Techno, Rock-and-Roll and others that were also pioneered by black american communities and were influenced/influential and share similarities to Jazz, Funk, Blues and R&B.

Aka.: Music genres in real life doesn't exist in a vacuum and wasn't born out of thin air, but they did in the Trolls universe so let's not think so hard about it and just roll with it for the sake of all of our sanities.

(This rant/discussion was born out of me finding a brazillian jazz and soul song that really fitted Funk Branch and researching the history of black-american genres for two hours just to make it make sense some what because I obviously wasn't giving such a good song to fucking Chaz. Anyways the song is De Ontem by Liniker, it's really good and I recommend it a lot - for Branch and in general - even if the translation I found on google was quite bad. If you plan to listen to it, I can write and send you a somewhat better one if you want)

Anyhow, sorry for the insanely long ask. If you take a shot for everytime a mention a music genre, you would quite literally die before the ask was over. Thank you for reading <3

That's kind of a thing with music irl yeah, the genres are messy and almost every song when you look it up has at least two genres it's accredited to. I think part of the point of the movie is that it's hard to stay confined to a single genre and all genres take influence from each other and are born from each other. Pop and Rock were born from the same thing, they just split in different directions.

I take the irl genres of songs as a suggestion. If something seems more like it'd be the Funk Trolls vibe, then it's their music.

[hoverboards-and-dragons]

Do you think ppl in this fandom infantilize Lucifer? I often see some fans (Cough Lilith Haters cough) treat him like he’s nothing but a helpless uwu baby. Like dude he fought against Adam (The only one who should be calling him baby is Lilith-)

Throws chair holy fu cking shit yes

'Lucifer would be horrified to discover ducks' corkscrew dicks but also he designed them' Pee your Pants now, your fav has weird little girl picking up worms energy and you should be grateful for that

Honestly this issue annoys me most in discussions around the Eden incident because I think the potential is downright fascinating only for the actual rebellion of their actions to be overlooked

Like, shippers have been making the Short One a weak little submissive twink cause they don't know how to write interesting relationships since the dawn of time, Adamsapple fans just found out about being tall and a bottom at the same time and they have yet to shut up about it. If thats what gets them off whatever

but in other contexts? like come on, someone engage with the text with me

He tried to break humans free from heaven's control, regardless of the introduction of evil, that was a direct confrontation

No, Lucifer hasn't deconstructed his bias properly but that doesn't mean he likes Heaven, there should be more hostility, that man is a wet blanket for exclusively Charlie(and not even always) and is so very irritating sometimes on purpose sometimes on accident to everyone else and he is very unapologetic about it

He's a cunt! He's an almost entirely self focused annoying cunt and was a dismissive father for years, My Beloved

I get really turned off by any depiction of Lucifer as a younger sibling/ apprentice/etc figure now just cause like, the actual issue is never tackled in those, he just cries and is hugged better

There's a lot misrepresentations of mental illness too, like he has stimulation seeking depression its weird when hes morose and apathetic, i miss my overly dramatic attention whore performer hurling around ducks that displease him, also the suicidal thoughts tend to be written poorly which is offputting when you've dealt with them before

the Adam scene is interesting cause Lucifer clearly knows his power, it makes sense Char doesn't have a grasp on her rank but Lucifer knew Adam didn't have a shot against him

Lucilith fans aren't even that much better, like how many are just 'Lucifer is sooo cute and sweet and innocence and childlike wonder and Lilith wants to fuck him so bad about it'

ive seen a lot of Lilith taking care of drunk Lucifer, I have yet to see any drunk Lilith just saying

Maybe i'm just too invested my tarnished divinity dynamic but im bored of that shit, let's cracks them open and see whats wrong with them already

I've really come to appreciate Lucifer writing in the show after all the caricatures he's spawned, only a truly interesting and nuanced character could be interpreted this badly in this many different ways

[system-of-a-feather]

I'm glad you're going hogwild on Bleach rn. It was also a major part of our childhood and development, and I feel like there's still a ton to get out of it, even from an older perspective. (Not trying to sound uppity or anything, I really love Bleach.)

What do you think about the idea of Ichigo as a CDD allegory? I don't think he was written with that in mind, but reading through the manga, there are a lot of scenes that make me go "hmMMMMMM."

(Never watched the anime, lol. Manga-only)

Funny you should ask that question. I have actually already made a very important post on the topic of Ichigo as a CDD allegory. /hj

Honestly though, I think its one of my favorite "not intentionally a CDD but very relatable as someone with a CDD". Like I'd have to get further into TYBW and later cause I know they expand and drop some lore secrets about the dynamic of the part (I was gonna edit that to be more accurate to the world context of Bleach but I felt that term is telling about how I feel about the allegory XD) that make up Ichigo's soul and shit.

I know a lot of what is revealed because as good as I obstained from a lot of spoilers, I actually heard a rumor that Hollow Ichigo isn't seen after the Aizen-Karakura town arc and I was so distraught at that that I let it be something I got spoiled on before it was announced that it would continue. At the time, I thought it upset me cause I thought the hollow stuff was cool, but that reasoning didn't really make sense to me because I was actually like *sad* in a "no thats not fair or right, hollow ichigo deserves to live too" which in hindsight, I realize was probably some not-entirely subconscious "no don't just delete and erase the existance of a part of yourself!!! You should make friends with them and make them your best ally!!! I want to see more HIchi and Ichigo interact ;w;"

and also

like

lowkey I had a Hollow Ichigo introject in my head that I didn't know about for the longest time so it was probably pretty personal

But personal shit aside, I honestly really do like it. I mean to some level - especially early in the series - its a lot of "oooooh spooky evil alter" vibes, but honest to god - and this is a controversial opinion - I think we need more nuanced "evil" alter representation rather than the elimination of the "evil alter" trope because shitty asshole alters exist and are actually common and I think its a lot more meaningful to show how two completely conflicting and otherwise aggressive towards eachother individuals can find a middle ground and empower eachother. Which is what Bleach does particularly with Ichigo and his hollow self and UNIRONICALLY the whole Bleach arc Ichigo has with his hollow self is incredibly similar to the "arc" that XIV and I had which, go figure. Me the Shounen Boy Optimist protagonist and a literal hollow ichigo introject had a similar arc to the Shounen Protagonist and Hollow ichigo. Do you see the shock in my voice?

Honestly if I have time and feel like it (unlikely since I don't often have time) I might put a longer opinion / discussion on it, but honestly, even outside of Ichigo, I think the way Bleach handles Zanpaktous and even stuff like Lillynette and Stark is just a really fun way to have a lot of plural / CDD adjacent themes and vibes without necessarily even being an allegory.

The idea of being able to have a manifestation of your soul and the power it has take a sentient form and the bonding, communication, and collaboration with said manifestation being the key to increased power and skill development is just??? The coolest thing?

Honestly I think Bleach has subconsciously informed a lot of how our system is structured and interacts in more ways than we are probably cognitively currently aware of and I think to some good level that whole just general vibe probably plays a role in it somewhere.

But man, I love this show. I honestly am genuinely thinking of returning to my natural autistic instincts and just chronically watching it whenever I dont have anything else to watch because I really DONT need to have a variety of shows to watch and honestly if something aint broke, why ever change it /hj

I can have a comfort anime smh

[otsukare-katsukare]

So I came across this blog and found it quite interesting. I also agree with a lot of it. I like hearing your opinions on things as well, especially these particular topics. So I was wondering - What do you think?

https://www.tumblr.com/wwerasliin-sideblog

hello to you! very glad you came to my blog and liked my opinions. thats all i can ask for as a tumblr user. your link doesnt go to a specific post but judging from the discussion on your blog im guessing youre asking my opinion on sami's potential involvement in the bloodline story and whether roman should apologise to him or not.

(sorry if this is not at all what you were asking. i ended up writing an essay here im afraid.)

i have my own general opinions on what my ideal face turn for roman would have looked like and it's already quite different in reality, but the general gist is yeah, an apology to sami would be, like, thing one. at this point, however, with kevin's heel turn, i just dont know. the way it's played out till this point my heart just doesnt want sami anywhere near roman, because unlike jey, sami really does not have any good reason to go back based on family ties. and roman should not want him back, either. from roman's POV sami was the first brick to fall in his family falling apart, and he betrayed him when he gave him so much. and as far as sami's concerned, the best friend/soulmate that he literally betrayed roman for is currently at his lowest emotional point because his two other closest friends have sided with a man who was his sworn enemy for three years and terrorised both him and his loved ones. for sami to go to roman now, no matter what the guy says, would just feel so cruelly thoughtless to kevin. but very on brand for wwe.

but there was a world where i was completely on board with the 'sami forgives roman' narrative, if roman had come back after losing the title completely alone and ostracised, for the first time in his life. his bloodline scattered, abandoned by his wiseman, justifiably hated by nearly everybody on the roster, and no gold to make him feel better about everything. if he spent some time as a desperate and pathetic heel, trying to win back his old family members using his old gaslighty tricks that don't work anymore, taking on opponents who he'd been mowing through before with the help of the numbers game, but who now smelled blood in the water and got their vengeance, only getting sparing wins. slowly learning what he'd put everyone else through and starting to feel genuine remorse - in that scenario, i would have actually loved to see sami be the first of roman's victims to see him as a genuinely changed man and accept the olive branch. not joining his bloodline (concept should just not exist at this point) but being his optimistic and forgiving self that sees the best in people. in this scenario, roman asking for sami's forgiveness in the first place would also make more sense, as he would realise that he's no longer entitled to his family just on the basis of blood, and that with sami, the wounds arent as deep, and maybe sami could help him be a better person.

(in this fantasy scenario seth is also involved, and the first person who actually reconnects with roman again. cause the shield bond is binding and what happened at wm40 finally buried the last of the resentment between them. but he cant make roman better the way sami can.)

unfortunately while i think this would be a good character arc and story, it is not a good wrestling story, formally. there's no way that people werent going to cheer vociferously for roman, and that's kind of all that matters at the end of the day with this medium. they just happened to make a story with the bloodline that's a bit too nuanced and genuninely fiction-esque for the wwe formula. ah well. but the way things are now if sami goes back to roman without roman apologising then i'll stand by kevin whatever he decides to do in reponse including but not limited to apron powerbombs.

thanks for asking me my wrestling opinions! if this is in fact what you wanted to hear, if not, then i hope it was of interest anyway.

[joeysmuttonchops]

What is the appeal of Hawk and Dove?

i ask myself that every day.

okay serious answer, lets give this a good old college try

Hank and Don

introduced in the 1960s and very much a product of their time, Hank and Don were initially characterized as the two arguments of the Vietnam War. Don being satunchly anti-war/violence and Hank. uh. not that.

here's an incredible panel of the cerebral and nuanced arguments between hawk and dove:

it doesnt get more nuanced than this.

the bickering is almost entirely the point: it's pretty rare to see them actually agree with each other, but despite all their arguing its pretty clear that they trust each other. 

their superpowers are theoretically just meant to enhance their preexisting dynamic, which ive already discussed, and i think theres a LOT of potential in the idea that some power looked at them and was like "Your Super Ability Is Codependancy" i think more heroes should have that power thats hilarious

Hank and Dawn

an interesting take on legacy! really often in comics a legacy mantle is passed to family or a partner of some kind, and by having it instead taken by a complete stranger who still wants to uphold that personal legacy (by being the team Hawk and Dove) is unique

do you like snark? do you like stubborness? then dawn granger might be for you! (terms and conditions may apply)

so the "violent angry man is calmed through the Power Of Love" is legitimately a hugely successful trope, and we could discuss the politics of that trope for a very long time, but regardless of that argument it has spawned countless romance novels worth probably millions of dollars. so some people have gotta be into it

i havent dont any holly reading so i couldnt say for her sorry :(( 

[avonne-writes]

Just first to thank you for committing on sharing all your stories and hcs with us.

After reading your abo hcs I completely agree, it's been really hard for me to imagine Buck and Bucky in this dynamic even tho im a sucker for it ^^"

One of the reasons I fell for this ship is because the Bucks are equals, it would be weird to put one in submission out of weakness? They work so well as a team too how to fit abo with that? I do see Bucky as a 100% alpha tho, he is way too dominant and horny in my opinion but Buck is a mystery he is way more quiet and calm, but he is shown to take command easily, the only au I have atm is Alpha Bucky helping Omega Buck to run away from home with him, just the two of them on the run thats it.

Thank you so much ❤️ It’s fun to discuss these headcanons and stories, it helps me through my days!

Yeah, a writer has to approach the au with nuance if they want a balanced abo because the tropes call for imbalance. Since these two characters have a balanced relationship, good abo can’t be stereotypical. With some other pairings where there’s an imbalance already in canon - e.g. age difference, obvious dominance difference etc. - the stereotypical abo tropes work well too. So it all depends on your pairing.

It sounds like you have an interesting story, good luck with it!

[ms-all-sunday]

curious about your thoughts on eugenics re:wci

i think you were opening something bigger than you realized because the way eugenics is treated in wci is why i think wci is objectively the weakest part of op. i have gone on record saying i dont like how judge is handled but i would like how judge is handled significantly better if the way the narrative about the eugenics wasn't so contradictory.

as it stands now i think the fact nobody aknowledges as i put it "the fact going against eugenics isnt determined by the way that you were born" in regards to the poison narrative (as i mentioned before, the fact sora takes poison to stop eugenics from happening but it's used later to justify why sanji is nice, leading the audience to believe that was biologically determined. which is eugenics) means that the logic behind eugenics but not the appearance of eugenics gets validated.

it's a really shallow narrative in a way that reads as out of character for oda a guy who can generally handle nuance incredibly well. as to why this is i have no idea the mystery of wci will remain unsolved until the end of time i think.

this logic negatively affects everything in wci in regards to the vinsmokes because I'm assuming here, the intent is that the vinsmokes arent emotionless and judge is a bad scientist (men when you tell them anger is an emotion🤬) but absolutely none of that is acknowledged within the actual narrative to detrimental affects to everybody involved but most egregiously reiju and sanjis relationship and them individually.

wci makes me feel like im going insane in this regard because lets start out with the obvious. reiju should've left and not sanji, by her own logic that should be true. reiju decided sanji had emotions and therefore he should leave, but crucially, she had emotions. she should leave.

"oh but reiju wasnt abused and favoured because she had powers" alright lets accept that that's true.

is reiju even supposed to be an abuse victim?

because she is and i dont think anybody would deny that. she consistently favours men in her life over herself despite being more capable and intelligent than sanji is. she thinks she's a worthless monster because of how men have treated her in her life. her narrative is almost exclusively a tragedy of how she consistently favours most notably sanji over herself. and if she favours men over herself and they dont care about her why would they care if she left?

maybe because shes an abuse victim and percieves it like she's crucial to them because of conditioning, if she was really an objective logic monster by her own reasoning she would've left with sanji because she would've realized they dont give a damn about her.

and oda knows what sexism is. he's familiar. i can't imagine he'd write something like this on accident.

the only logic in which the narrative presented works is if you take everything at face value, which as we've discussed isn't even right- it's like an ouroboros of not making any damn sense on so many layers its so fucking frustrating and i have no idea what oda is doing with any of it

and dont even get me started on the "evil sanji is a switch you can get flipped on" stuff. thats so fucking painfully stupid, that's not how eugenics work, that's not how anything works. that's not how the experience of being an abuse victim works (sanji very obviously has internalized judges ideology and the idea theres a switch you can flip on to turn him evil is so stupid sanji is already "evil" in this exact way to some degree. hes got internalized bullshit he externalizes constantly) none of that is grounded in reality and it's not even a coherent argument even related to eugenics anymore it might as well be magic, because it's nothing.

if i had to guess what went wrong here is that judge and the concept of eugenics got wapoled (protraying something as bad but not having any coherent argument against it, something in earlier chapters oda does quite often. wapol a prime example) but oda had more or less grown out of that since post timeskip so what the fuck!

thesis: reiju is the first badly written woman oda has ever put to page and abuse victim switch you can flip on is so comically terrible it makes me want to put my head in a meat grinder.

[lilac-set]

Theres nothing good that could come of me reblogging and adding onto the post i just saw so im gonna make a post about it

I think the problem is that this was a vent post that people were taking a discourse post, but OP’s goal wasnt nuanced discussion, it was to vent, so they took it as a threat and lashed out at any replies trying to have a discussion

The post was basically saying that it isnt fair that the rest of the world is under the authority of another government they dont even get to elect (the usa), which is absolutely true

A couple usamericans tried to say what im saying now but got about as misinterpreted as possible, i think. Because, again, responses were not welcome on this post. They werent trying to make everything about themselves, but were trying to defend themselves on a post attacking them personally. The post was already about usamerians, they didnt derail. They weren’t defending their government on a post attacking their government, they were defending themselves on a post attacking themselves

Because for some reason OP made this about american people rather than the american government

They (the americans) said “whos forcing you to care?”, that wasnt taken well, they ARE being forced to care, by the government. But i think what they were trying to say, what im trying to say, is that this is an institutional problem, not a personal problem. They werent whining about how much life in america is so much harder than it is in all the places that our government destroyed, they were trying to illustrate that we as people are doing everything we can to fix our government, for our own and the rest of the world’s sakes, not that we’re too busy with our own stupid american problems to care about all the genocides america is committing elsewhere, but that we know that us simply “caring” about whats going on isnt going to change it, what will change their situation is changing our own government, but just because we’re all doing as much as we can to make that happen doesnt mean we can just simply rebuild our country from scratch because we want to, it isnt that easy

What they were trying to say was that we’re in a similar boat of being oppressed by our government, youre punching laterally at us, not up. Not trying to make it about themselves, not trying to absolve their government, but just not being sure why this is being aimed at them as, ya know, not the government

It’d be like if during ww2 instead of saying “nazis are evil and deserve to die” or “hitler is evil and deserves to die”, you said “all german citizens are evil and deserve to die” - its understandable as a vent, but it just isnt true. And then you get a bunch of germans on your post like “actually we hate what’s going on and we’re really trying hard to change it” and you respond like “im gonna kill a german just because you said that, you really cant stop making it all about yourselves, huh? This is why i hate germans”

I just dont think its helpful to make sweeping generalizations that everyone of a certain nationality is evil, one because thats just a shitty thing to do in general (not as shitty as everything our government is doing, obviously, but again, at us people youre punching laterally. We could play the oppression olympics and make a detailed ranking of exactly which types of people in which countries have it the worst, and yeah probably no american is gonna be at the very bottom of that list, but i dont think that list *matters*, youre dead whether you drown in an inch of water or 10 feet, whether you were simply unsheltered or a nuclear bomb dropped on your town. We need to be on the same team), but also… how do i explain this… its disheartening, as americans, who have at least a little more power to change our own government than people elsewhere do, to be told youre evil no matter what. Theres no point in voting, theres no point in calling reps, theres no point in signing petitions, theres no point going to protests, even running for office, etc, those things have no effect on the fact that youre evil and youre part of the problem. Theres no such thing as a good action, there isnt even a neutral action, everything you can do is evil, because youre an american, so quit trying, by trying youre just making it even more about yourselves. And god forbid you participate in any sort of mutual aid to keep another american from dying, those resources could be used to keep someone good from dying

This is bad, yeah?

[landoffreaksandfrogs]

thoughts on meenah? (maybe the other alpha trolls as a bonus?)

i. really. really like meenah. i think everything about her story is very interesting, especially given how shes. not a good person. she is a bully!

but shes also very nuanced and with the same complexities as her fellow thief, especially given her circumstances as an heiress and her own struggles with having friends.

she needs to be doing something, to have a direction. shes like a shark, she has to always be swimming forward.

its really no wonder that her counterpart thrived as alternias longest reigning and most successful empress, alternia is perfect for her sensibilities. its almost as if she was displaced. an alternian troll trapped in a beforan society.

but to get a little bit out of the in-universe scope...shes clearly Black-coded. i feel like thats a bit of a "no doi" but theres also a lot more like. to say about that.

obviously there are Black voices in the fandom that have said it better than me and if theyd like, they can share their thoughts, but meenahs Black-coding is also part of a broader issue with the racism present in homestuck.

shes aggressive, pushy, obsessed with material wealth, a lot of things that have connotations with negative Black women stereotypes.

i enjoy the character a great deal, i think shes easily the most well-written of the alpha troll bunch and she has an actual arc, but i can also acknowledge the negatives about her that impact real people.

i can get into my thoughts on the other alpha trolls another day, since this is already kind of a lengthy response, but i guess its just like. listen to Black homestuck fan voices. meenah is a character with a lot of in-universe and real life nuance that cant be easily summed up as good/bad, which invites interesting discussion around the character, yes, but also leads to kneejerk reactionary responses. god this turned into less a meenah essay and more just a general homestuck essay this is kind of a mess.

[yaoikage]

i used to think of james somerton as some annoying boring cunt who made lazy videos about shits thats already been discussed in a way more nuanced light before by people way smarter than him and complained about some people not liking being called queer but now i just genuinely want to fucking punt him with psychic blasts

[sister-lucifer]

Why even bother putting proship dni in your bio when you literally write rape porn? You are not any better than those types of people lmfao.

yk, i wasn’t originally gonna answer this, but i think this is actually an important discussion. long post ahead, be weary.

[tw for discussion of rape, sexual assault, pedophilia, and incest. stay safe.]

first things first: i don’t want this post to come off angry. I’m not, i understand why you might feel this way. this is a complex and nuanced situation that can be hard to wrap your head around

i’m not a puritan, i don’t mind dark/problematic content inherently, i know big shocker! but there’s a difference between writing something and glorifying it as though it is a positive.

all of my potentially triggering fics are FLUSH with warnings, because warnings are important! i know that what i’m writing is…well, intense! very intense for some people! and that’s ok! i can accomplish the balancing act that is writing what i want while still doing the most I can to keep my audience safe and comfortable.

every once in a while i’ll come across one of those stepcest or age gap fics while on my nightly search for smut, and i scroll by them without a thought because they, they’ve been properly marked with warnings and tagged, i have no business here.

but there’s a big different between that and trying to romanticize these things.

when i write my non/dub con fics, it’s obvious (or at least it should be obvious) that the aggressor is, to put it bluntly, a massive piece of shit. youre supposed to feel afraid or even a bit uncomfortable, because that isn’t a normal situation. you are not supposed to view those scenarios as just “oh another cutesy ship fic” because that’s not that they are. they’re dark and dirty and should be treated as such.

thats what i think makes a lot of the difference between me and actual proshippers: how the relationships are portrayed and how the author wants you to feel towards the aggressor or more powerful person in the relationship.

for a good example of everything i’m against, i suggest watching this video over blogthegreatrouge. here’s the spark notes version:

Rouge repeatedly featured rape, sexual assault, and pedophilic relationships in their comics. now if handled well, i wouldn’t be saying anything. but you are supposed to feel bad for the rapists and predators. you are supposed to sympathize with them and see their literal crimes as just “oh they were only trying to get their crush’s attention, so it’s ok!” but it’s not. i know that, you know that, Rouge SHOULD know that, and yet she’s portraying these things as normal relationships to an audience of children, which Rogue is definitely aware of. on top of that all of the triggering material is unmarked, meaning anyone could stumble upon it.

THIS is what I have an issue with. THIS is what actual proshippers do. and this is inherently harmful, because anyone who isn’t already mature enough to understand that this is wrong will take those experiences with them and it could put them in harms way. a child who sees that could think it’s okay, and potentially not speak up about abuse because of it.

for further examples of what i’m against, check this video as well. these authors are writing about taboo relationships which feature incest and often the young girl is only 17 or 18. i don’t think writing about these things in and of itself is bad, in fact i think there’s much discussion to be had around these issues, but glorifying them to an audience of young girls as if it’s the perfect romance is not the move! seriously, if you go to the amazon reviews for these books, too many of them are teenage girls talking about how they with their stepdad/teacher/dad were like this. THAT is a bad move.

Or what about the Killing Stalking scandal? maybe people criticize killing stalking because it “glorifies” abuse and murder, but if you actually read it, it doesn’t do that. it’s supposed to make you feel uncomfortable and gross, it’s supposed to be HORROR, not romance! the only reason it has the reputation it does is because anime review youtubers brought the comic to their audience of young people who weren’t mature enough to grasp the layers and nuance of what they were reading. killing stalking is a good comic, but all of its goodness is lost in the sea of teenage girls who have no idea what they’re reading.

any of my fics featuring non/dub con are NOT supposed to be cutesy or romantic. they’re supposed to be gross. that’s me looking at you and saying “isn’t that so fucked up? isn’t that wild? isn’t this guy such a gross piece of shit?”

Black Christmas (1974) once said: “If this movie doesn’t make your skin crawl, it’s on too tight.”

If my fics don’t make your skin crawl, it’s on too tight! this is a space where you can come and be gross and yucky and then return to your normal daily life unaffected, because i expect that everyone reading my fics is old and mature enough to understand that you are not supposed to sympathize with the aggressors, you are supposed to see them as the nasty swamp creatures they are. and if i find that they arent, then that’s what the block button is for!

this is a space where we can ask “hey, wouldn’t it be fucked up if x happened?” and have that question answered in an equally fucked up manner, because there’s an inherent understanding that everything that happens in those fics is, in fact, fucked up.

i hope this answers your question, anon.

[hoverboards-and-dragons]

headcanons for Hell's rulers' actual stances (Forbidden Fruits AU)

Lilith; philosophically opposes Heaven's power and position, only one treating this like the political conflict it is, if anyone is overthrowing God's place in creation like base story its her, Everything thats ever mattered to her is in hell

Eve: Very complicated feeling on every related topic, she really wishes there were more sides than "evil" and "obey" in this, yeah freewill started some bad stuff but Heaven did some evils too do those not count it clearly didnt all come from the apple; there's nuanced debate to be had here

Unfortunately she's already been kicked off team Obey for bullshit so guess she's team 'evil' now, her advocacy for hell's freedom is more self preservation than anything

Lucifer: just wants his family safe and happy and happens to have family on every goddamn field of this fight, he's had enough personal problems with Heaven to know that something's wrong but lacks a bigger picture perspective, will support Lilith and Eve(in that order) in anything they do

There have been some very tense dinner discussions

Eve and Lucifer have a unique tension when Lilith isn't there; it mostly stems from how inconsistent he is about what he does and doesn't regret which is difficult for her because she struggles with her guilt, blame and justification. It would be easier if she knew where he stood like she does Lilith.

There is also definitely unprocessed feelings about the temptation situation between both that they been brushing past in dealing with Eve's damnation and their shared love for Lilith that they really should work out

Eve and Luci are actually in very similar situations in having one act of disobedience with unintended consequences and still having beloved family in Heaven while reacting in very different ways

(Lily was a problem literally day one and thats why I love her <333)

Lucifer literally gets along fine with his heavenly family on his own (mostly because they're both under the impression that he can't return so whether he wants to never comes up, they just assume he does- he doesn't) not addressing damage in a relationship is an expert hobby of his

its only when the ladies are present that actual fights break out because they and the archangels have opposing views and Lucifer obviously always backs up his wives