#but now that they're GENEROUSLY bringing feanor in on this 'ruling hte noldor' thing such matters will just be 2-1 votes
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my ideal Fëanor re-embodiment fic is just the implicitly worldbuilding full text of the long, detailed, legally binding contract I like to imagine his brothers meet him with on his first step out of Mandos, addressing such matters as
the High Kingship
in fact, what everyone’s formal titles are
who has authority over what geographical areas of Noldor territory in Aman
who has authority of what peoples (dependent upon the consent of the peoples)
who has authority over what facets of Noldorin governance that overlap the above categories
the fucking th vs s thing
which people must agree before we all engage in active rebellion against the Valar again (inc. the difference between “active” and “passive” rebellion, and what to do in emergencies)
They’re willing to negotiate details of all but the last part. Future renegotiations are also an option, for all but the last part. They brought camping supplies, and nobody is going back to Tirion until they’ve reached an agreement
#the silmarillion#feanor#fingolfin#finarfin#i think the titles of high king has been traded back and forth for millennia so now it'll rorate between the three of them#but it's mostly ceremonial#fingolfin and finarfin used it for tiebreaking if they disagreed about something important enough to tiebreak#but now that they're GENEROUSLY bringing feanor in on this 'ruling hte noldor' thing such matters will just be 2-1 votes#(with multiple sub-clauses about passing/recusal/etc)#finarfin rules in tirion and - since gil-galad returned adn took over tol eressea - fingolfin rules in its relatively new sister city#(gil-galad is happy to not have the title and cat-herding responsibilities of being high king of the noldor thanks)#everyone can choose where they live and which king they answer to (there's a lot more options); you're encouraged to corrolate these but#it's not required. there's paperwork for changing#as a rule fingolfin manages the various factions of the noldor and finarfin does diplomacy with everyone else in valinor#new rebellion rules: not only must all 3 sons of finwe and at least 1 of their sisters agree but also gil-galad and either elrond or a#reasonable representative of elrond's house (ie celebrian or pmumblemumble about the twins' choices]#passive rebellion is ok but a vote by the above-named parties can determine that any contentious activity going on for over 10 years counts#as 'active'. active rebellion without full agreement is permissible in an emergency but must be ratified within 3 days (or equivalent if#something has happened to arien); and if it's not everyone else is turning back and apologizing and you're on your own#...but i really want the DETAILS of like late fourth age elven life and specifically noldorin civil infrastructure in aman#ficlet#my fic
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my ideal Fëanor re-embodiment fic is just the implicitly worldbuilding full text of the long, detailed, legally binding contract I like to imagine his brothers meet him with on his first step out of Mandos, addressing such matters as
the High Kingship
in fact, what everyone’s formal titles are
who has authority over what geographical areas of Noldor territory in Aman
who has authority of what peoples (dependent upon the consent of the peoples)
who has authority over what facets of Noldorin governance that overlap the above categories
the fucking th vs s thing
which people must agree before we all engage in active rebellion against the Valar again (inc. the difference between “active” and “passive” rebellion, and what to do in emergencies)
They’re willing to negotiate details of all but the last past. Future renegotiations are also an option, for all but the last part. They brought camping supplies, and nobody is going back to Tirion until they’ve reached an agreement
#the silmarillion#feanor#fingolfin#finarfin#i think the titles of high king has been traded back and forth for millennia so now it'll rorate between the three of them#but it's mostly ceremonial#fingolfin and finarfin used it for tiebreaking if they disagreed about something important enough to tiebreak#but now that they're GENEROUSLY bringing feanor in on this 'ruling hte noldor' thing such matters will just be 2-1 votes#(with multiple sub-clauses about passing/recusal/etc)#finarfin rules in tirion and - since gil-galad returned adn took over tol eressea - fingolfin rules in its relatively new sister city#(gil-galad is happy to not have the title and cat-herding responsibilities of being high king of the noldor thanks)#everyone can choose where they live and which king they answer to (there's a lot more options); you're encouraged to corrolate these but#it's not required. there's paperwork for changing#as a rule fingolfin manages the various factions of the noldor and finarfin does diplomacy with everyone else in valinor#new rebellion rules: not only must all 3 sons of finwe and at least 1 of their sisters agree but also gil-galad and either elrond or a#reasonable representative of elrond's house (ie celebrian or pmumblemumble about the twins' choices]#passive rebellion is ok but a vote by the above-named parties can determine that any contentious activity going on for over 10 years counts#as 'active'. active rebellion without full agreement is permissible in an emergency but must be ratified within 3 days (or equivalent if#something has happened to arien); and if it's not everyone else is turning back and apologizing and you're on your own#...but i really want the DETAILS of like late fourth age elven life and specifically noldorin civil infrastructure in aman#ficlet
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#the silmarillion#feanor#fingolfin#finarfin#i think the titles of high king has been traded back and forth for millennia so now it'll rorate between the three of them#but it's mostly ceremonial#fingolfin and finarfin used it for tiebreaking if they disagreed about something important enough to tiebreak#but now that they're GENEROUSLY bringing feanor in on this 'ruling hte noldor' thing such matters will just be 2-1 votes#(with multiple sub-clauses about passing/recusal/etc)#finarfin rules in tirion and - since gil-galad returned adn took over tol eressea - fingolfin rules in its relatively new sister city#(gil-galad is happy to not have the title and cat-herding responsibilities of being high king of the noldor thanks)#everyone can choose where they live and which king they answer to (there's a lot more options); you're encouraged to corrolate these but#it's not required. there's paperwork for changing#as a rule fingolfin manages the various factions of the noldor and finarfin does diplomacy with everyone else in valinor#new rebellion rules: not only must all 3 sons of finwe and at least 1 of their sisters agree but also gil-galad and either elrond or a#reasonable representative of elrond's house (ie celebrian or pmumblemumble about the twins' choices]#passive rebellion is ok but a vote by the above-named parties can determine that any contentious activity going on for over 10 years counts#as 'active'. active rebellion without full agreement is permissible in an emergency but must be ratified within 3 days (or equivalent if#something has happened to arien); and if it's not everyone else is turning back and apologizing and you're on your own#...but i really want the DETAILS of like late fourth age elven life and specifically noldorin civil infrastructure in aman
Don't forget the justice system and other conflict resolution systems/policies! Hmm, let's see...
Disputes between people are supposed to be addressed by peer or local mediation, and only if that fails should it be taken to their king/queen/lord/lady/[more esoteric title]. In practice a lot of things get taken to the top which didn't strictly need to be. Some leaders are tolerant of this; some frequently kick such disputes back downstairs with a 'figure it out yourselves'.
Disputes between people answering to different leaders are by default adjudicated by both leaders (or their deputies) jointly (assuming peer/local mediation doesn't work). However, disputants may petition for a third party leader to take over; this is usually granted unless the petitioner has a history of making a lot of work for the system. They can ask for a particular party but may not get them. This caveat was added after way too many people asked for... I'm blanking, but I'm sure there are leaders who would be in very high demand.
The leaders can also agree for a third party to take over, if they can agree on who and that person agrees to do it. (There may have been a few cases of 'this is our get-along extremely stupid grazing rights dispute'.)
There isn't a hierarchy for who mediates/adjudicates disputes between leaders, just sort of an... established expectation of who deals with various combinations of disputants, who else can do it if they're not available, etc.
If all else fails it gets sent to Indis and Míriel.
It may take a while until Fëanor is trusted by the people to handle any cases involving anyone but his own followers. He's just going to have to accept that.
He wouldn't be the only leader no one particularly wants as an adjudicator.
And that's just civil cases...
my ideal Fëanor re-embodiment fic is just the implicitly worldbuilding full text of the long, detailed, legally binding contract I like to imagine his brothers meet him with on his first step out of Mandos, addressing such matters as
the High Kingship
in fact, what everyone’s formal titles are
who has authority over what geographical areas of Noldor territory in Aman
who has authority of what peoples (dependent upon the consent of the peoples)
who has authority over what facets of Noldorin governance that overlap the above categories
the fucking th vs s thing
which people must agree before we all engage in active rebellion against the Valar again (inc. the difference between “active” and “passive” rebellion, and what to do in emergencies)
They’re willing to negotiate details of all but the last past. Future renegotiations are also an option, for all but the last part. They brought camping supplies, and nobody is going back to Tirion until they’ve reached an agreement
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