#but my feelings on calling loving fathers motherly.... gives me the ick BIG TIME
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When people refer to batman/Bruce as motherly I end up in a feedback loop of;
Yeah, we can detach the terms mother and father from being feminine for masculine things, he can be a mother just as a single mother can call herself a father if she likes.
But that's not what anyone means by that. They mean "caring makes him a mother/more feminine because that's what mothers/feminine parents do" and he can't be a "father" unless he's being mean, rude, or neglectful.
Like, these things are both true and so they ping-pong back and forth every time someone calls him motherly..
Literally just a loop of "fathers can be loving but fathers don't have to be men mothers can be leaderly but don't have to be women"
#not tagging bc dc fans like to fight and I'm just writing my thoughts down LMAO#if people really meant it they'd call talia damian's father#we can't get into the talia thing though bc people can't stand that she's mean so she must be a kind gentle lifegiver bc woman >:(#when in fact if you truly un-gendered the ideas of mother and father you could make a complex mother or father of her#but my feelings on calling loving fathers motherly.... gives me the ick BIG TIME#same with calling real men babygirl without knowing if they're comfortable being called such#fictional characters do what you want I'll just turn around and walk away lmfao#they're not real they're just toys#but sometimes real world politics and patriarchy just.. flows into the way people treat characters#much like you can tell when a queer person writes queer characters bc there's NO 'top' or 'bottom' personality type#they just like what they like and do what they do neither of them is necessarily the feminine or masculine role#this became another tagrant RIP#i just mean check yourself and look inward at what you're saying. are you just playing with toys or are you saying#that fathers cannot be loving and gentle and nurturing#the end thank u
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