#but just trying to invert that so you have your precious little girls club just makes you the asshole! actually!!!
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if y'all motherfuckers cannot tell that tma/tme rhetoric is literally just radfem bullshit repackaged in a """""progressive""""" framing to force men and masculine people out of queer spaces, then i do not know what to tell you. stop drinking the fucking koolaid. listen to the trans men who are telling you that do not wield some unique kind of privilege simply for not being trans women and that they are not automatically treated like men by the patriarchy and they face their own unique forms of transphobia please for the love of fuck i am so sick of seeing this shit
discussions of the unique oppression trans woman face is fine and good and necessary, but for fucksake, we can do that without shitting on non-women trans people. FUCK
#YES there are issues with the way our community at large treats trans women#but just trying to invert that so you have your precious little girls club just makes you the asshole! actually!!!#i know it's insane because some of you seem to think that women can do no wrong literally ever#but that is in fact how the world works :)#queer stuff
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Hello Calvin. Where are you?
Iām in my studio on [London cultural hotspot] Hornsey Road. Is this interview going to get turned into a glossy pamphlet that youāre going to sell?
No. Whatās happening today. Are you making some hits?
(Laughs)Ā Today I am getting some guide vocals recorded for a song I wrote thatās for a girl, and I donāt want to sing the guide vocals because itās a particularly girlie song and Iām too embarrassed to send my version with me singing to the artist in question.
You do sound girlie fairly frequently, though.
Yes absolutely, Iāve got a falsetto tone that I like to use. I sang the demo of āBounceā and it was PHENOMENAL. Iām thinking of releasing that mix as some sort of iTunes bonus mix.
Amazing.
Well I donāt know about amazing ā itās certainly āspecialā. Itās a special mix.
Maybe save it for the 25th anniversary anthology.
Or maybe as an album bonus track. āExtra contentā.
Whatās the worst āextra contentā youāve ever produced?
Me? Iām struggling to think of much that weāve done. I suspect there will be some YouTube videos that I was roped into very early on. Around my first album. We did a series of YouTube videos of me just acting like a complete dickhead. But Iād been told to act like a dickhead! Showing people around my crib-in-inverted-commas when it was the Holiday Inn I was staying in. Things that were not very funny, thought of by online marketing people. Something like that. THATāS content, but you canāt buy it.Ā (Pause)Ā Well you certainly couldnāt sell it.
What sort of ācontentā will be on your new album? How much is there to hear at this stage?
Well thereās not muchĀ toĀ hear to be honest. I could give you a blast of the second single but thereās not much point in that over the phone. The albumās not coming out until nextā¦Ā Nextā¦ Letās say next year.
Thatās quite a long time. It felt like it would be this single then another then the album.
No. Well that would be the old favourite, wouldnāt it? The two-singles-then-the-album routine. But there are going to be at least four singles, maybe five. Or possibly there will never evenĀ beĀ an album. We might get to five singles and think, ānah, fuck itā.
Surely after the fifth itāll be greatest hits oāclock, job done, thank you ladies and gentlemen: GOODNIGHT.
(Laughs)Ā OR, like in America, they do that eight-for-eight thing. Eight tracks for eight dollars. I could do something like that. But with the exchange rate it would be, erā¦ Eightā¦ Fourā¦ Er, I donāt know. Six? 5.6? Pounds? Erā¦ Does that sound good?
It depends Calvin on whether the songs are any good. It would be a lot easier if the price of a download was in some way connected to how good it was.
Ah, but thatās just a matter of opinion thought isnāt it?
No.
No?
No.Ā
I always think this as well actually. I think there are some good songs and some bad songs and thatās just the way it is. Some things are good for different reasons, and some things are bad for different reasons.
Maybe. I donāt think this is something you can apply to every song. Maybe with two thirds of songs you canāt say whether itās objectively good or objectively bad, but the remaining third of music, well, yes you can. You cannot use the magic on everything, but that doesnāt mean it works on nothing.
Hm. But I guess ā and Iām not including you in this ā most music journalists would say that their opinion holds the most gravitas when in fact a lot of them donāt know much at all.
That was an incredible backhanded compliment, to say āand Iām not including you in thisā. Superficially flattering, but at the heart of it you are simply saying āI do not consider you a music journalistā. Amazing.
(Guffaws)Ā Letās just move on shall we.
Are you impressed that you mentioned several minutes ago that you had written a song for a female artist, but werenāt immediately bombarded with questions about her identity?
Yes. Well, you probably knew that Iām definitely not going to tell you because she hasnāt agreed to it yet.
Be that as it may, who is it?
I canāt tell you.
Is it someone for your album or is it someone youāre submitting a song to?
Oh itās for my album, I donāt work on anyone elseās songs any more. Iāve had enough of all that.
What changed your mind on that?
I was always singing on my music to start with, but now I donāt need to song on it because, well, Iāve decided not to. So now every track I make can be a track by me featuring whoever. So thereās no need to give songs to anyone else. Before I needed an outlet for the more girlie songs that only girls could sing on, and now I donāt need to do that.
Most dance songs do sound good with a lady on.
Girls sound good soaring over a big riff. The female voice travels better in a club.
So whoās that female artist?
Sheās not even heard the track yet!
How about three guesses?
Sure.
CHER. (Laughs)Ā No.
Oh. Erā¦ Who else is there?
Hahaha, āif itās not Cher who else could it possibly beā!Ā (Laughs)
No. More current.
ELIZA DOOLITTLE.
Sadly none of those are correct so now I donāt have to tell you. By the way is your office in Islington?
Yes, near it. Why?
You knowĀ you tweeted that picture of stuff youād stuck on the wall using No More Nails?
Yes.
I recognised the window that was outside your window! I recognised it.
Thatās someoneās flat. Sometimes he stands in the window with just his pants on.
(Laughs)Ā I knew thatās where it was. I used to live round the corner. Yes. Not any more though.
So youāre currently Number 3 in the iTunes chartā¦
Am I? I thought I was Number 2. But obviously thatās the iTunes chart not theĀ actualĀ chart.
But itās the chart that counts. Sort of.
Yes to an extent. If you listen to commercial radioā¦
Which we often do. Do you?
I do too. I listen to ALL RADIO.
Do you listen to Radio 4? I have done.
Do you find it occasionally quite good except when itās a) The Archers, b) a satirical news show,Ā or c) āa playā?
Itās usually a play though isnāt it. Umā¦ My mum used to listen to it while she was doing the ironing.Ā To be honest Iāve not really listened to Radio 4 for a while.
Itās useful to know about other stuff, though.
Some people think thatās important.
ItĀ isĀ important!
No.
Because, right, well for example thereās this book calledĀ āA Technique For Producing IdeasāĀ by some bloke who used to work in advertising and itās quite interesting if youāre interested in that sort of thing, and itās a very short nook based on a talk he used to go round and give to people at colleges or wherever. And itās about how to come up with ideas and how to make your brain work and all that sort of stuff, and part of it is cross referencing the matter at hand with something unrelated, and then you find the right combination of the thing you know about and the thing thatās nothing to do with it, and thatās where the spark of an idea happens. So listening to someone bang on about farming on Radio 4 is actually more useful than you might think it is.
Ah, right. Oh I see.
You knowĀ the mental wobbly bit in āBounceā?
Yes.
Is there more of that on the album?
Maybe, but weāre talking about the album like it exists. Which it doesnāt yet. In the next two songs thereās none of that. I mean I love that bit. It was necessary to put it in so it wasnāt just a linear track. But at the same time, certain āpeopleā thought it was a little bit much for a certain time of day on some radio stations.
But the whole point of its amazingness is that it is, quite literally, āa bit muchā!
It is!Ā (Laughs)Ā Imagine anyone just sitting there listening to the radio at home, or in the supermarket, or working in a garageā¦Ā (Laughs)Some old dearās buying eggs then all of a sudden itās āDRNNN!! DRNNRNNN! BRNNN!!!!ā It made me laugh so I kept it in, but there is an edit with it not in, for people who are susceptible to heart attacks.
Does that edit upset you?
I did it! I did it entirely through choice.
Thatās like ripping the heart out of the song!
No youāre completely wrong.
Now then Calvin we know this song better that you do, listen to what we have to say.
(Laughs)Ā No, itās a funny thing to have in there and in a club it goes off, but it doesnāt work in every situation.
Itās very accommodating of you to do a non-mental edit.
I try to be accommodating. To start off with, five years ago or whatever, I was very precious over my songs, but itās more important to open yourself up to the challenge of doing something that more people can get on board with.
Thatās a beautiful thing.
Well Iām making songs for the radio. Iām not making songs for people who look at Drowned In Sound or whatever. Iām a commercial act! Thatās what weāre trying to present me as, so, you know, youāve got to respect that.
How well do you think youāre doing at presenting yourself as a commercial act?
Not that well.Ā (Laughs)Ā I love being accommodating in the musical sense, but Iām not very good at going out or trying to get my picture taken or getting off with celebrities or that kind of thing. Iām terrible at that so Iāve given up on it, and I donāt think Iām going to be a celebrity any time soon. But as far as music goes, Iād like to think of it as being an accessible thing I do.
Youāve been very polite on Twitter recently.
I have, havenāt I?
Was that your idea, or someone elseās?
As Iāve spoken to more and more people about it, people who use Twitter and mostly DJs ā mostly quite a bit older than myself ā itās been interesting to see their take on it, and life generally. Weāre talking worldwide DJs. People who know how the world works. It might sound strange taking advice from Tiesto but he knows what heās on about. And he was just, like, ālook. Donāt do thatā.Ā (Roars with laughter)Ā And, er, I went, āwow. Really?ā. And then I thought about it, and I was like, āactually whoĀ doesĀ do that? All my least favourite people, thatās who. All my least favourite people go off on Twitter and cause problems with people and chat about what annoys themā. I just thought, thereās enough of all that going on in our lives as it is, we donāt need to read it going on in someone elseās. So now I just try to do positive things.
It was quite good when you were waiting for something to arrive from, if memory serves, Ikea. That was Twitter gold.
Yes, thatās all alright but when it spills over into a rant itās not a good look, is it? And itās not really who I am, either ā it was supposed to be quite jokey but thereās no typeface for sarcasm.
If there was a typeface for sarcasm what would the font be?
I donāt know. Maybe thatās why there isnāt one. Upside down?
That would be ridiculous.
Well you canāt have italic can you. Bold?
Letās not have bold.
Capital letters are interesting. People who write all emails in capital letters, I always wonder whatās going on there. Do you remember when Alan McGee was on Twitter? Thatās where I took my lead from and, er, it lost me a lot of friends.Ā (Laughs)
What else would you like to discuss today?
Oh I donāt know! You tell me! Come on. Is this meant to be just a chat? I thought it was supposed to be an interview!
Which female artist are you writing that song for?
Oh I canāt tell you that. If they agree to it, thenā¦ Well, they havenāt even heard it yet.
Who else is on this selection of tracks that may or may not form your third album?
So far itās Kelis, meā¦ Erā¦ Hmā¦
You need to get on with that.
No seriously itās fine, most of the tracks are done, itās just a question of lining up the people and dropping off the sacks full of cash.
How much is Kelis? Oh actually you were working with her anyway werenāt youā¦
Iāll tell you what, Iām getting some great remixes in because I keep promising people things. Iāve got quite a list of things I need to get back to people on as a result. Itāll be fine. Itās JUST A BIT OF FUN.
Perhaps everyone should just CALM DOWN and HAVE A LAUGH.
Well thatās what it is. Everyone just needs to fucking calm down, breathe, enjoy life.
Right, get back to work.
You too!
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