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Hello, I am writing this post in order to address my own community but also give a heads up to other yandere game devs on Tumblr. This has filled me with deep dread and I feel like it needs to be spoken about at once.
TLDR: There's a community of over 1k people who are seeking real life yandere relationships and planning illegal actions here on Tumblr.
I recently discovered there's a fairly big community here on tumblr of people who are seeking "yandere" partners in real life and/or identify as "yandere" themselves. Part of me is hoping and praying to the gods that it's just roleplay, but the community has "IRL" in its name and there is nothing in its rules indicating that it's roleplay. Some of the people in there are following my blog.
To other devs, I urge you to discourage such mentalities and make it as clear as possible that we DO NOT tolerate this stuff.
To anyone who identifies as "irl yandere" and is following this or any of my blogs, block me this instant. What you are doing and encouraging is abusive if it is outside of a consensual roleplay or BDSM scenario. Purposefully isolating a person from their loved ones, kidnapping them, harming them (again, without consent) is abuse. Get the hell out of my community, you are not welcome here. I will not have abusers use my game or participate in my community. Seek therapy.
There is a difference between exploring a crazy scenario in a game and pursuing said scenario in reality. NONE of the stalkerish, obsessive, overly jealous things Keith and Tenebris do in the game are okay to do to a real person. They are not role models, they are not ideal partners.
And to people who are seeking out "yandere" partners in real life, for the love of god realize that your fantasies will not play out the same in reality. You are putting yourself and all of your loved ones at risk. No matter how much you think you can appeal to a "yandere" or meet their needs, that is still an abuser who may go to extremes one day. There was a damn post in that community asking for advice on how to turn someone against their family. Another asking how to kidnap someone and being praised for it. This is not a joke. Do not invite abusers into your life. It will not play out like your fantasies. You will feel unsafe and violated, you may end up in a very very bad situation that you cannot get out of easily. There is a high chance you may lose your life when the abuser decides they can't have you to themselves any other way.
And to those of you in my fandom who are well in the head and aware this is nuts, please report this community if you come across it. The age of entry was 16, SIXTEEN YEAR OLDS ARE IN THERE LOOKING FOR ABUSERS. I cannot stress how fucked up this is.
I really really really hope I just somehow didn't pick up that this was all roleplay. I hope I didn't just witness someone trying to plan out how to kidnap a real person. Please just let me be a clueless idiot.
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Potential Phaidei Crumbs
Some more possible Phaidei crumbs that I've been thinking about and haven't seen people discussing yet:
First, in the very first scene with Mydei, there's this one odd line. It's a tiny thing, but nothing in a character's first appearance is accidental, so...
Mydei starts griping, telling Phainon that the people of Castrum Kremnos as a whole will not accept him. Presumably he actually means this in a general sense, aka "The Kremnoans won't accept any other hero; Kremnos won't become allies with anyone."
However, something I haven't seen many people note is that Mydei's very next line is:
"As the successor of Kremnos, I am not able to act independently on such matters."
This is a weird statement, right?
Saying "I am not able to act independently" basically implies that there is a desire to choose differently than his people. It's not "I would never act differently than my people demand." It's not even "I don't want to act independently"--it's "I am not able to." Wording the statement this way actively suggests that Mydei has a different stance than Kremnos itself--that if he had the power to act independently, he might make a different determination than his people expect.
Or, in more direct words: He would accept Phainon if he had the choice.
The dev team is very careful about the first impression that characters make in their debut appearances in the game. Choosing to deliberately reveal to us that Mydei has a different opinion of Phainon than the rest of the Kremnoans might is a strong signal for Mydei's characterization--deep down, he is very different from other Kremnoans--but, even more importantly, it tells us instantly that Mydei thinks more highly of Phainon than other people from Kremnos do. (Even if he also thinks Phainon is a mannerless heathen who lacks hospitality lol.)
Okay, okay, but that's just one little line. There's another thing I wanted to point out too, and that's actually Miss Castorice...
I've seen a lot of people suggesting Mydei/Castorice, Phainon/Castorice, and even Mydei/Castorice/Phainon, but for all the fandom's shipping (and everyone should feel free to ship what they love; your ship is valid, fam!), I actually kind of think that...
Castorice is a bit of a Mydei/Phainon shipper herself.
Although Castorice is of course just a good person who is doing what she can to help Okhema, she also is quick to assist Phainon specifically to save Mydei, quick to try to keep Phainon calm because that's what will help him get to Mydei quicker, and she just brings Mydei up out of the blue to Phainon several times throughout the story.
It's Castorice who halts Phainon's ascension ceremony to ask where Mydei is, because she expected him to be there for Phainon.
It seems to be a given for Castorice that if Phainon needs him, in Phainon's most important hour, Mydei should obviously be with him. She knew Mydei would come.
Even before that, when Phainon was feeling down, Castorice admits she doesn't know how to comfort Phainon herself, and instead... brings up Mydei to comfort Phainon???
Girl thought Quick, how can I raise Phainon's self-esteem? and Mydei's nickname for Phainon was the first thing that seems to have come to mind. 😂
She really said "You're not lame, Phainon; Mydei thinks you're a hero!"
Okay, being more serious--even putting shipping aside entirely, it's just overall clear that Castorice perceives the close comradeship between Phainon and Mydei (probably moreso than Phainon himself) and understands how important having that close friendship is to Phainon, who seems to have nothing else left outside of the Chrysos Heirs at all.
She seems to be able to tell how much Phainon needs people in his life who believe in and can stand beside him, and seems to have clocked that Mydei is definitely one such person. The game tells us players clearly that Castorice is an incredibly perceptive person who is sensitive to the feelings of others, and part of that includes her continuing to verbally recognize, throughout 3.0, the support Phainon gains from his close connection to Mydei.
I think this is just another cool touch--but also maybe another subtle nod from the devs. Castorice won't even let Phainon have a single scene where Mydei isn't mentioned lol.
And finally, one last crumb based on a pet theory...
"As I've Written"
We don't yet know who is responsible for actually writing the character profiles in the "As I've Written" book--although the rewards section is called "Author's Recompense" and the player get rewards for "composing sagas," alongside the interact button being "Write Story," there's actually an entire achievement teasing the fact that the Trailblazer doesn't know who actually wrote the book:
It's not remotely written in a style the Trailblazer would write in, and it also contains information the Trailblazer (at least currently) has no way of knowing at all, like the details of Castorice's backstory.
At this point, the real author could be anyone. But I feel like there's a few things pointing in favor of the idea that the real author might be Phainon. It could also be Anaxa or Cyrene or even Mem too, but hear me out...
First, the book's design is reminiscent of Phainon: the book features prominent sun/moon symbols, has the same blue-white-gold color palette, and even the design at the bottom of the book resembles the design along the front of Phainon's coat:
The book also seems to be strongly foreshadowing that someone is going to lose their way, step onto a dark path, or end up making a terrible mistake.
In Tribbie's chapter:
In Aglaea's:
And of course in Phainon's chapter, where the foreshadowing is strongest:
If this "one who has lost their direction" and "lost themself," the "flawed hero," are all references to Phainon, then the book over and over again seems to be--for the player--foreshadowing Phainon's downfall. Or, from the other perspective: This is a record written by someone who has witnessed (or experienced) the downfall and knows what is coming.
There's also the fact that while Phainon's chapter is written in third person, the narrator occasionally slips in some hints that they know what's going on in Phainon's mind:
And there's also this moment from Mydei's chapter:
We already know that this is not how Mydei behaves around people he doesn't know. When Mydei isn't familiar with a person, he doesn't banter with them--he doesn't even bother with them. He barely speaks directly to the Trailblazer the entire 3.0 plot, for example! He doesn't remotely seem like the type of person to sit down at a table and drink with someone he doesn't know.
We also know that he's already scolded Phainon several times for trying to act like an expert in Kremnoan legends:
(Thank Streetwise Rhapsody from Youtube for these screencaps because I forgot to screencap it myself lol.)
And the icing on the cake:
The exact phrase "amateur historian" again.
To me, this all but confirms that the "true" author of the "As I've Written" chronicle is probably Phainon, which finally brings me to the actual Phaidei crumb I wanted to discuss all along:
Mydei's story is listed as chapter 10 of the book. Yet for some reason --even though we get the book only after completing nearly the entire 3.0 questline, when the player has definitely met Aglaea, Castorice, and Tribbie already--Mydei's story comes first.
While Castorice, Tribbie, Phainon, and Aglaea all share the same memory crystal, Mydei has his own separate memory crystal, not shared with any other character, and it is given to the player first, before anyone else:
Phainon really said "My man is more important than the rest of us combined."
Tribbie is chapter 1. Phainon is chapter 7. Aglaea is chapter 9. But for some reason, we jumped all three of those characters to present chapter 10 first. Theoretically you could say that it's because we went to Castrum Kremnos and fought Nikador? But, story-wise, was Mydei the most important? The Trailblazer met Phainon and Tribbie first, got to actually play Aglaea for a sequence of this story, and traveled alone with Castorice. Mydei is the character the Trailblazer actually had the least connection to in the whole 3.0 storyline, so it doesn't seem that the story is truly what determined the order characters' chapters were given to us.
At the end of the day, in a book that seems it could be written by Phainon (from the future? the past?), Mydei was given special treatment and came before anyone else.
I'm just sayin'... the devs don't do things on accident.
#honkai star rail#phainon#mydei#phaidei#myphai#castorice#amphoreus spoilers#like for real this time lol#make of all this what you will#I'M JUST SAYIN#but I was surprised watching my friend replay the story just how much Castorice brings up Mydei to Phainon#especially at the end of the patch#and also#if Phainon is the “I” in the book#that means he and Mydei have shared a table together before... with only one cup on it#quick fic writers#send me all your dinner date fanfics!!#I also think if Phainon is the one in the book#then the line about Mydei “expecting him to break the silence”#is kind of cute#Mydei wants a conversation to go with his dinner wine--I mean juice#but he doesn't want to be the one to start it#he doesn't need to either#since Phainon will start the conversation for them#guaranteed!#that says a lot about how well Mydei knows Phainon lol#I just thought these were kind of funny/nifty moments!#I will take any Phaidei crumb I can get reeeee
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already in love w ur page! i would love to see dads bestfriend joel from you!!
hi! thank u sm!! and ofc coming right up on a very hot and steamy platter 😛
Not Your Daddy
Pairing: Pre-outbreak!Joel Miller x f!reader
Summary: You're back from your first year at college. You've changed and Joel is quick to notice.
Warnings: 18+ SMUT MDNI, age gap (36/19), swearing, p in v, size kink, loss of virginity, unprotected sex, fingering, oral (fem!recieving) no Sarah, alcohol
Celia's note: Heres jus a lil something :) (not proofread sorry) also part 3 of ain't right is coming so so soon I promise!!
Joel Miller and your father were good friends.
When you and your dad moved in next door a little over three years ago, they hit it off quickly. Their tendency to take on random jobs for cash is what bonded them. Also sports.
You were shy then, never able to hold eye contact and always avoiding him whenever he was around.
But thankfully, you've grown into a woman. Your first year at college changed you.
Now, you were back for the summer, eager to sleep in your own bed and spend time with your home-town friends.
But honestly, you were most excited to see Joel.
You wanted him to see how much you've grown. See how mature you've become, how confident.
You always had a little crush on him—mostly because he was the kindest out of all your dad's friends.
You also wanted him to be the one to pop your cherry.
You were a virgin, and kinda always fantasized about Joel being the one to take it from you.
Sure, you’ve done some stuff with guys, but never gone all the way. You were saving that for him.
You knew it wouldn't take long until he made an appearance.
Your dad had offered to host a small get-together to celebrate you being back. He would barbecue in the backyard and hold bets for the basketball game.
It was really just an excuse for him to break out the grill and gamble, but you didn't care. Only because you knew Joel would be there.
You even put on your shortest white sundress and blew out your hair for the occasion.
Your body was buzzing with the idea of seeing him again.
You wondered if he had changed at all.
Your mind started spiraling at the thought.
What if he had changed? What if he was dating someone now? What if he was engaged?
You glanced in the mirror at your nearly perfect reflection and suddenly felt so silly. What if this was all for nothing?
You didn't have long to ponder that thought because the doorbell rings.
You peak out your window and see Joel's truck in the driveway.
Your dad answers the door downstairs, the faint murmur of voices distracting your ears.
The anticipation was gnawing at you like a hungry dog.
After collecting your nerves, you slowly descend the stairs to meet them in the kitchen.
The loud cussing gave away their location.
"You've lost your damn mind if you think there's a chance in hell the Privateers of all fucking teams are gonna beat—oh, hey darlin'," Your dad greets you, clearing his throat like he wasn't just cussing out Joel.
His back is to you, but when he turns around, your heart fucking ignites.
He's just as handsome as the day you left.
He looks momentarily stunned by you, his eyes flickering all over your figure. God—how was it possible for someone to change so much? You looked more than amazing.
He immediately feels ashamed for basically checking you out in front of your dad, his eyes snapping back up to your face.
"Christ kid, they feedin' you up there at A&M?" He teases before stepping in for a hug.
He even smells the same as he did all those months ago, pine and smoke. You feel relieved.
It seems like the only thing thats different about him is a few gray hairs.
"Hey Joel," you greet with a giddy smile, hugging him back and relishing in his warmth. "How are you?"
Joel is very surprised. He almost doesn't recognize you. You're so much more...more.
"M'alright, aside from the fact that your dad's gonna give me a fuckin' aneurysm one of these days."
You laugh and shake your head. "Fighting about the game tonight?"
"Yeah, this fuckin' asshat thinks the longhorns might lose tonight—messin' up the whole fuckin' mojo," Your dad rambles, his voice beginning to raise before the doorbell rings again. "I'll get that, need to get away from this traitor." He snorts before heading to the door and leaving you both alone.
Joel rolls his eyes before landing his gaze back onto you and your cute little sundress. He crosses his arms over his chest and turns to face you with his body.
"You behavin' up there at school?" He asks light-heartedly, though you find it excruciatingly hard not to reply in some suggestive way.
"Mhm," You hum unconvincingly with a charmingly guilty smile, holding back a laugh.
Joel cocks a brow, pretending to look at you judgmentally. "Lyin’ is a sin, y’know." He huffs, a smile creeping on his lips.
“I’ve been good, just a lotta temptations s’all..” You murmur softly, your body naturally drifting closer to Joel by swaying on your feet.
The tension in the room is palpable.
“Oh yeah?” He tilts his head the tiniest bit to the side, his voice dropping what seemed like several octaves.
In fear of your voice cracking when giving a verbal response, you opt for a nod of your head, but then shrug just to tease him.
He glares at you but then scoffs, shaking his head.
"When'd you become such a little shit-stirrer, huh?" He chides, reaching over to ruffle the top of your hair.
You laugh before pushing his hand away, your fingers lingering on his wrist for longer than it needed to.
His skin is warm, he's almost hot to the touch. You're having a very hard time tearing your eyes away from his face.
All the sudden, your father calls you into the other room.
"Get in here! Max and Ruby wanna hear about your classes." Max and Ruby being your neighbors who had undoubtedly stopped by for the party.
You peer up at Joel, your eyes almost begging him to ask you to stay. But instead, he gestures with his head for you to listen to your dad.
"Go on now," He husks out, sliding his hands into the pockets of his jeans.
Reluctantly you leave him behind in the kitchen, your body still whirring with the adrenaline high you got from just talking to him.
***
It was nice seeing everyone that stopped by for the party. You hadn't realized how much you missed your people.
But Joel was making it hard to concentrate on conversation when you guys were playing eye-tag the entire night.
He really couldn't help himself. There was just something so magnetic about you now—it was impossible to tear his eyes away.
He watched you talk to some of your high school friends, then get up to fetch something from the kitchen.
He couldn’t stop his gaze from falling to your ass once you turned around, his cock twitching in his pants because of the way your dress taunts him with its length.
He clears his throat.
Fuck was he thinking.
This was you he was ogling for christ sake. His best friends daughter.
These thoughts were not allowed. He needed to shut this down.
But the night goes on anyway, people getting more drunk and rowdy with each passing second.
Especially your father, who was currently in a screaming match with his work buddy about the game. They're all crowded around the small box tv in the kitchen, intently watching the tiny screen.
You're watching them from afar, amused by your father and the absurdity of it all.
"Ah fuck, we're outta ice," your dad groans, lifting up the empty bowl in annoyance. "Alright, one of you sons of bitches needs'ta make an ice run, m'not missing this game."
Joel groans out, dragging his hand down his jaw. "We're obviously gonna win—the team's up 46. Make the damn run yourself." He berates your father, who in turn just shakes his head and waves a dismissive hand at Joel.
"Every time I don't watch the game to completion, we fuckin' lose. M'staying riiiight here."
"Fuckin' superstitious bastard." Joel groans from under his breath, picking up his truck keys from the counter. "You want some more beer while I'm out? Maybe my liver too? God knows you need a new one, goddamn alcoholic."
You're laughing at them in the corner, finding their banter extremely amusing.
Then, you suddenly realize this might be your chance to spend more alone time with Joel.
You lurch forward, quickly blocking his path. "Can I come with?"
He looks down at you, a barely noticeable smile tugging at the corner of his lips. He's just about to reply to you before your drunk father cuts in.
"Ya, go with him, he can't carry the ice by himself or else his back’ll give out."
Joel turns his head to yell at your dad. "Shut your damn mouth," he barks, then turns back around to face you, placing his hand on your lower back. "'Course sweetheart, c'mon."
The drastic change in his voice when he talks to you versus your father makes your heart flutter.
He guides you outside to his truck, only dropping his arm from your back when he opens the passenger door for you.
Hopping inside, you settle yourself into the worn down bench seat. Your eyes follow him as he rounds the front of the vehicle, swinging open the driver side door and cranking the engine.
His old country music starts blaring from the speakers of the car, accompanied by the loud drum of his engine.
He’s quick to whip out of the driveway, steering with one muscular arm on the wheel.
You want to drool at the sight—you know your other lips most certainly are.
"So, you got a boyfriend up there at school?" He asks after clearing his throat.
He wants to subtly test the waters, whether he knows it now or not.
You smile, the thought of dating any guy besides Joel was laughable.
"Nope. They're all kinda gross."
"Gross? Yeah, well, most guys your age are." He mumbles, thinking back to his late teens, early twenties—Yikes.
"What about you? Got a woman yet?" You ask, following his line of questioning.
Joel scoffs, keeping his eyes trained on the road. “Does it look like I got a woman in my life?”
He looks down at himself for a second to get his point across, making you follow his gaze.
His wrinkly navy shirt had paint stains on it, his jeans were so old, they looked one wash away from disintegrating, and his beard needed a trim.
You try to stifle your giggle by turning your head away. “Yeah, guess not.”
Your mind starts wandering off, imagining what being Joel's woman would look like...having dinner together...sharing a bed...showering together...
God you wanted to be his girl so bad.
You hear yourself speaking before you even know what you’re saying. “Maybe I can help you—y'know, find a woman n’all.”
Joel casts you an assessing glance, cocking his eyebrow.
“Oh yeah? N’how would you do that?”
He doesn’t even mean to sound sexy but the way he talks makes you wanna melt.
“Well, for starters, a haircut might do you some good.” You tease, scooting closer to him on the bench seat to fiddle with the overgrown hair by his neck.
The way your body is turned to face him gives Joel a clear view down the front of your dress, the skin of your breasts making his cock twitch.
“What’re you talkin’ about? My hair looks great.” Joel knows he’s lying, but he just wants to see you laugh.
Which you do. “Yea, maybe to a blind chick.”
“Oh, you got jokes, huh?” Joel chides, using his free hand to come up and playfully tug at your hair.
You erupt in giggles, swatting his hand away while simultaneously trying to tug his hair back.
Eventually, you two stop messing with each other, but you reiterate that you're serious.
"I mean it—it’d be super fun giving you a make-over."
Joel pulls into the gas station and shifts his truck into park.
"You've lost your damn mind if you think I'm gonna let you get anywhere near my head with clippers."
You roll your eyes and giggle, following him out of the vehicle.
"C'monnn, it'll be fun!" You squeal, trailing behind him as he walks into the store, the bell chiming as you both enter.
He pretends to ignore you, walking along the isles to the freezer section.
"I'll be super careful," You muse, snagging a bag of skittles from off one of the shelves before he can notice.
“I promise I won’t fuck up your cut.” You joke, laughing at yourself.
“Hey—watch it.” Joel warns when hearing your profanity, snapping back to look at you, only half-joking.
You roll your eyes—it's ironic coming from him who cusses like a sailor. You brush past him as he opens the freezer, letting your back lean against one of the glass doors, facing him.
"You're not my daddy, y'know. Can't tell me what to do." You purr, a shit-eating grin beginning to form on your perfect face.
Joel feels his blood pressure spike.
You're making this impossible for him and you know it.
His body moves for him before he can stop himself.
After he grabs two ice bags, he closes the freezer and subsequently steps closer to you, popping your personal space bubble.
"You're right. M'not your daddy." He husks, looking down at you and your parted lips. Your chests are centimeters away from each other, and you find yourself holding your breath. “Consider yourself lucky.”
The way he’s looking down at you like prey yet speaking so nonchalantly has your brain spinning. There was definitely an underlying threat in his words.
Before you can respond, he’s turned around and walking up to the register, throwing down a 10 dollar bill and telling the cashier to keep the change.
Science can’t explain the drastic acceleration your heart rate just experienced—but you can.
Joel fucking Miller.
He had to be insinuating something, right?
Your face is hot and so is the rest of your body, stumbling to catch up with him as he walks out the store.
He lugs the ice into his trunk like nothing happened, the tension in his muscles catching your eyes.
Yet, he still comes around to the passenger side, opening the door for you.
Now was your chance to get him back.
You lift yourself up in the truck, purposefully climbing into the bench seat in a way that gave Joel a clear view of your ass—as well as your thong that wasn't really covering much.
His hand clamps down so hard on the car handle that it nearly crumbles under his grip.
You hear him clear his throat before the door slams shut next to you, making you jump a bit.
When he passes in the front windshield, he's shaking his head and dragging a hand down his scruffy jaw. You can't help but giggle at his exasperated expression.
His takes longer to get into the car and start things up this time, trying real hard not to meet your instense gaze.
When he refuses to make eye contact, you huff out a breath and rip open your skittles bag.
This catches Joel's attention.
"You pay for that?"
"...sure." You murmur unconvincingly with a shrug, trying not to smile. "Want some?"
He watches as you pop a few in your mouth, holding out the bag for him.
Begrungingly, he grumbles out a 'yeah' and holds out his palm.
***
The party had fizzled out when you guys returned. There were a few stranglers sitting around and chatting, but for the most part, things seemed to be dying down.
So much for the ice.
Your dad and his friends had migrated to the living room and once Joel put the bags away, he joined them.
He sat on the couch with a grunt, his legs immediately settling into the manspreading position.
You tried not to drool but your mouth was definitely salivating. To avoid moaning just at the sight of him, you head upstairs, the old wood boards creaking beneath your feet.
You don't see it, but Joel's got his eyes on you, following you with his gaze till you're out of sight.
He feels guilty thinking about how much he wants to fuck you when he's literally sitting right next to your father, but he can't help himself.
It's a while before you come back down, when you do, theres a razor in one hand, clippers in the other.
"No." Joel instantly says, shaking his head.
"Yes." You squeal, beaming down at him.
"Awh, go on Joel, you been needin' a clean up." Your dad chimes in, smacking his shoulder. His other buddies encourage it until he has no choice than to give in just so everyone would shut up.
"Fine—fine. Y'all gon' get yours, thats for damn sure." Joel grumbles, stomping up the stairs.
You're laughing all the way up, bubbling with excitement.
"Come down and give us the reveal when you're done!" Your dad screams to which you giggle.
You basically shove Joel into your bathroom, pulling in a stool for him to sit on.
"You better know what yer doin'." He grunts, sitting down on the stool and looking at you with weary eyes.
"Anything I do to you would look better than what you have now."
Joel promptly stands back up when hearing your words, trying to walk away, but you grab onto his arm. "I'm kidding, I’m kidding! I promise I'll do a good job."
You press on his shoulders to sit him down again, your throat running dry when you see the way he’s glaring up at you.
He’s not actually angry—just a bit peeved that he doesn’t have enough self control to stop thinking about fucking you against the bathroom sink.
You start working, none the wiser, bringing the electric razor to his jaw.
Your bodies are close, Joel can smell your delicious perfume and it makes him wanna eat you up.
You start to notice how sometimes his eyes will flicker to your chest, before abrupdtly looking away and clearing his throat.
Your boobs did look great in this dress, maybe you should give him a better view...
The devilish thought pops in your brain and you're acting it out before you know it.
You set the razor down and grab the clippers, stepping around to the front of his body. "May I?" You murmur, not even waiting for his answer before straddling his lap.
You sit on his thighs and Joel feels himself straighten like a board.
“Kid—what do you think yer doin’?” He immediately sputters out, his expression stern.
He’s trying so hard not to look down at where your dress had ridden up from straddling him. He can almost see your cunt, for christ sake.
“Nothin’.” You murmur, bringing your shaking hand up to trim the hair on his jaw. You curse at yourself for not even having the wits to keep calm, you just know your flushed fave is giving you away.
“Nothin’, huh?” Joel reiterates, completely unbelieving as his eyes drag down your body slowly.
Then, everything shifts.
There’s something more assertive in Joel’s demeanor that you can’t quite put your finger on, but you know it’s there.
You feel his calloused hand on your thigh, your body erupting in goosebumps when he travels it up dangerously high. Using his other hand, he grips your wrist, pulling it down and away from his face.
“Doesn’t look like nothin’ to me.” His voice is a low murmur.
You’re both locked in eye contact now, hearts beating in sync.
He hears your breath hitch and sees how your eyes are flashing between his gaze and lips. He knows what you’re after—he’s just not sure if he wants to give in yet.
You, on the other hand, are dying of anticipation. He’s not budging, so you’re left to drag your hips up his lap and press down on the bulge in his pants.
"Girl—" He growls out before his hands come up to stop your waist from moving any further. "You don't know what your doin'."
"Do I have to fucking spell it out for you, Joel?" You rush out, dropping the scissors and latching onto his shoulders. You're panting and your face is pink, a needy/irritated expression woven into your features.
He feels your nails digging into his shoulder blades and sees that desperate look in your eyes—he's done for.
"No, I won't make ya do that f'me, sweet heart." He murmurs before abruptly picking you up from under your thighs.
A squeak of surprise leaves your lips at his effortless display of strength. You swallow your nerves after he sets you down on the counter, lodging himself between your legs.
"But I am gon make you say it."
Is he teasing you?
No, his face looks too serious for him to be teasing.
Oh, maybe he just wants clear clarification.
Your heart swells at his consideration.
Sucking in a deep breath, "I want your dick in my vagina." You giggle out, knowing he was probably expecting sexier wording. Joel smirks, crashing his forehead against yours.
"Yeah? S'that what you want?"
You're nodding against him, smiling wide because you just admitted something that you never thought you would.
"N'have you done that before? Y'know, dick in vagina." He copies your candance, but you stop smiling.
Out of all the fucking questions, that was the one that you didn't want to be asked the most.
You had hoped if you came on strong and flirted like you had done it a million times, he would've just assumed you weren't a virgin.
But the bastard always had to be so careful.
You didn't want him to know because you figured it would turn him off—then all you'd become is his best friend’s daughter all over again.
You knew if you lied he would just sniff it out anyway, but you tried nonetheless.
"...Yea. Couple times."
You watch as Joel's face forms into a 'yea right' kind of expression before he sighs out.
"Why'a lyin' to me, kid?"
You groan, throwing your head back and hitting the mirror with the back of your skull.
"Thats why—I don't want you thinking I'm a kid anymore. M'not. I'm grown. I'm grown and I want..your dick in my vagina."
He scoffs, dragging a hand down in jaw in disbelief. "Lyin' ain’t a good way to show me your grown."
He was right. You hated that he was right.
Your face crumbles because you think you just ruined this whole thing. Yet, Joel's hands come up to cup your face, holding them there a moment before they drift down to rest on your neck.
"S'alright, you're alright. M'not mad at'cha." He reassures, making sure you're looking in his eyes before he continues. "M'flattered sweetheart, I really am but-"
"Please don't say some bullshit like you don't think you're the man for this job because trust me when I say this Joel, you're the only guy I've ever wanted to be with."
You gush out, your mouth a leaky faucet. But Joel still looks conflicted.
You figured now would be a good time to bring out the big guns.
"If you won't do it cus I'm a virgin, I'll just have sex with the first guy I see, how about that?"
Joel's eyes darken and his jaw clenches. Now you've just pissed him off. "Don't manipulate me like that." He says sternly, to which you immediately falter in your confidence.
"I'm sorry, I don't know why I said that. I didn't mean it." You shake your head at yourself, biting down on your bottom lip. Joel sighs, leaning back but still keeping himself between your legs.
"Look," you start up again, bringing your hand down to hold his muscular bicep. "I've wanted to do this with you for so long. I really want it to be with you. Even if it's just one time, that's okay. Just need you in some way—Joel."
Your voice tapers off into a whisper because his stare intimidates you.
He exhales through his nose before running a hand through his hair and fixing his back to stand up straighter.
"Alright." He huffs, his face looking like he just surrendered in war.
"Alright?" You repeat, hopes high.
"I'll do it," He removes himself from between your legs and slides his grip down to your thighs. "But not right now."
Your heart drops.
"Why not?" You whine like a kicked puppy.
He brings one hand up to pinch your cheek. "Cus your daddy's down stairs, m'not a fuckin' monster." He grumbles before letting go and starting to walk out, but you grab him.
"Fine, but can we at least.." You hop down off the counter and pull him back, kissing him abruptly.
It starts slowly at first, you're both scoping out the scene, but then you get eager.
A tongue slips into his mouth and he returns the favor, his hands finding themselfs back on your hips.
In no time, he has your back up against the wall while he devours your mouth like a man starved. And just as his hand starts sliding up your dress and he's about to go back on his word, a voice comes from downstairs.
"C'mon down Joel, we wanna see the new cut!"
You groan as Joel slips from you, walking back downstairs while wiping his jaw and adjusting the boner in his pants.
***
Now it was a waiting game.
Everyone but your dad's friends had left the party; they were just sitting around, watching TV and drinking beers.
You and Joel can't stop making eye contact from the opposite ends of the room. It was like torture not being able to fuck him immediately.
You're quick to conjure up a plan, though.
"Hey dad," you start, twirling a loose thread from your dress around your finger.
"Ya?"
"Didn't they reopen Chambers, like, two weeks ago?" You ask, trying to keep your voice as inconspicuous as possible.
Chambers was the local bar that your dad and his buddies loved to go to. You were just trying to plant a seed.
"Mm, yea, I reckon they did." He sighs out, eyes glued to the TV.
"S'been awhile since we've been there." One of his friends chime in.
"We should go grab a few drinks—I've missed picking up broads from there.." Another friend says, to which your dad promptly hits his arm because he doesn't like that kind of talk when you're present.
Nevertheless, he casts you a questioning glance. "You gon' be alright if we go?"
You try so hard to mask your instant glee. "Oh yeah, I'll be fine! Y'all go n' have fun."
"Alright punkin," They all stand, gathering up their wallets and keys—everyone except Joel. "You comin'?" Your dad asks him.
You glare at him to make sure he understands what you're trying to do.
Joel inhales through his nose before sighing out with a smile. "M'gonna call it a night, boys."
Thank god.
They all grunt and groan in protest, but eventually everyone filters out of the house.
You stand in the door jam and watch as your dad and his buddies file into the car, Joel standing on the porch to wave them off. Words are exchanged between everyone, mostly cussing, as they make their depature.
You both watch as they leave the culdesac, even waiting until you couldn't hear the car engine in the distance before looking at Joel.
Your breath catches in your throat when he turns around to look at you, folding his arms over his chest.
"Sly work." He murmurs, walking forward and forcing you to walk back into the house.
You're not sure why you're so nervous all the sudden.
Because you were pretending to be bold and experienced before, you had no choice but to mask your nerves. Now, that Joel knows the truth, you feel...vulnerable. But in the best way possible.
He backs you into the house before closing the door behind him, his head hanging to look at the ground.
"I had to get you alone somehow." You murmur with a shrug of your shoulders.
It was the truth.
You hear Joel chuckle and watch as he brings his head up to look at you. He's assessing you.
A beat of silence washes over you both.
"You said you would, Joel." You try to say sternly, although your voice wavers because you're scared he might've changed his mind.
"I know what I said." He steps closer, your torso's centimeters apart.
The eye contact is heavy—it feels like an avail against you. But you love it—love him. You're holding back from jumping his bones right by the front door.
"Good." You practically whisper, slowly taking his large hand in yours. You wait until he interwines your fingers before turning around and guiding him up the stairs.
Every creak under his and your feet sounds deafening in the silence between you both.
His hand is sweating, but so is yours.
When you make it to your bedroom, you walk inside and sit on the edge of your bed, gazing up at him.
"How many women have you slept with?" You hear yourself blurt before you can stop yourself.
His lips tighten into a line before he sits down next to you. Your sides are touching, his hands are resting on his knees.
"A few." He grunts, turning to face you. "Lot of 'em forgettable. But this," he gestures between the two of you. "ain't no comin' back from this, you hear me?"
You nod, your hand slipping over his knee. You're trying to trail it higher up his thigh, but he stops you with his hand.
"Need to make sure you know that before we do this. Don't want you regrettin' it later-"
"I won't." You say curtly, only because you know with complete certaintly that there was no way you'd ever regret this.
Everything is still for a moment, the only sound in the room is the both of your breathing. He's staring at you so hard, just waiting for even a hint of hesitation.
But it never comes.
In one swift movement, Joel's lips are on yours, pushing you back into the mattress and settling on top of you.
It makes you dizzy how effortlessly he's making out with you now.
He slots himself between your thighs and you moan at the feeling.
It's embarrassing how little he had to do in order to get you off.
But it's Joel, for christsake—he could just stand there and you'd probably find a way to orgasm at least twice.
It feels like he's engulfing you entirely; his musuclar arms wrapped around you, tongue down your throat, chests pressed together—pure bliss.
Suddenly and devastatingly, he breaks away for just a moment. "Sit up." He husks, to which you immediately oblige.
He lifts your dress up and off, momentairly stunned by the sight of your bare breasts.
"Christ, you're unreal." He groans before latching his mouth onto one of your nipples, using his hand to grope the other one.
You're a mess of moans, but you manage to speak in between. "Take your clothes off too," you whine, pawing at his shirt.
Joel grumbles, taking his time. He strips his shirt off and your hands are quick to latch onto his belt, fumbling with the leather strap but eventually yanking it out of the loops.
His hands come out to steady yours. "Slow down, no rush." He purrs in his texan drawl, making you shiver.
You groan out in frustration, letting your back fall down against the bed again. "You gonna make me wait all summer?"
"If you keep bein' a brat, then maybe." Joel huffs, yanking you back by the legs so he can pull your thong off. He dangles the stringy piece of fabric by his finger, looking at it assessingly.
"Joel!" You squeal, embarrassed. He effortessly holds you down with one hand against your stomach, not letting you swat it away from him.
"This what you go 'round wearin'?" He teases, grinning sharply.
You shrug, all squrimy, prodding him with your legs. "Would it turn you on if I said I wore them for you?"
You almost don't notice when Joel stuffs your underwear into his back pocket because of how drawn you are to his eyes. He's looking at you like a man starved—you love it.
"You been plottin' on me, is that it?" His voice makes your wet hole clench around nothing. He's teasing, but you also feel like you've just been caught.
You definitely weren't as suave as you thought you were.
"Stop makin' fun of me. " You huff with a flustered face, narrowing your eyes at him.
Joel smirks, finally prying apart your legs and taking a good, long look at your dripping cunt. "Christ almightly..." He groans at the sight of you, his cock straining hard against his jeans. "Pretty lil thing."
Your back arches off the bed when you feel Joel's thumb brush against your folds, tantilizingly slow. "Nice n' wet, atta girl." He muses, spreading your lips apart with his fingers.
You wanted to make a joke about him inspecting you like some doctor, but the words died quickly on your tongue when you felt him stroke your clit.
"Joel," You moan, hips squirming impatiently. "Fuck, I need you,"
"You got me, babygirl," Joel murmurs before lowering his head and devouring your cunt completely.
His tongue laps at you with fever, primarily focusing on your aching clit. The sensation nearly makes you pass out, especially when he pushes a finger inside of your hole.
"Ohmygodohmygodohmygod," You whine, fisting the sheets so hard that your knuckles turn white.
Having someone eat you out and it being actually enjoyable is one thing, but having Joel Miller eat you out and it being amazing, was blowing your mind.
He didn't even take breathers.
Joel was consuming you like he didn't need air. Soon, you feel another finger stretch you open, then another, until Joel has three fingers smoothly pumping in and out of you.
It quickly becomes all too much for your little brain. "Hmph..fuck Joel m'gonna come," You whine, your hips staggering against his mouth.
He doesn't answer you, in fact, Joel just wraps his musclar arms tightly under your thighs, securing you in place. In this position, you were rendered completely immoveable.
He kept you right where he wanted you.
"Waitwait, shit, Joel," His tongue is relentless, drinking you up like he was dying of thirst in the desert. Tears are forming in the lining of your eyes, the stimulation overloading you.
"Fuck!" You cry, coming completely undone beneath him. Your entire body shakes with pleasure as you finish, thighs squeezing the sides of his head.
Joel laps you all the way through it, humming contentedly against your soaked cunt.
When your body goes limp against the bed, thats finally when Joel lifts his lips off you. His entire face down past his nose is drenched in your juices; the sight makes your stomach flutter.
"Holy fucking shit Joel," You whimper, out of breath, chest heaving up and down. "That was amazing."
Joel lands a couple soft warning pats against your cunt, making you flinch and squirm from overstimulation.
"You cuss like a sailor, y'know that?"
"S'hard not to when you're makin' me feel so good." You're mumbling, wiping at the tear streaks on your face with the back of your hand.
"Mm, I know," He hums in that caring tone, crawling on top of you and placing a few chaste kisses on your lips.
It doesn't take long for your libido to rise again, wrapping your arms around his shoulders and eagerly kissing him back.
You bring a hand down to palm at his boner, giggling into the kiss. He groans at the feeling, rutting his hips into your hand. "Fuck me now please," You say breathlessly into his ear, nipping and licking at his neck.
He scoffs at your enthusiasm.
Finally, Joel pulls his pants off, letting his cock spring free and slap against his stomach.
You're enamoured by the sight of it. Long in length, even bigger in girth. You practically start drooling.
"You got a starin' problem too." Joel grumbles, grabbing you by the jaw and tilting your head up so he can kiss you again.
You chuckle into his lips, breaking away for a moment to speak. "I can't help it. It's handsome..you're handsome." You muse, getting a fist around his cock, managing to stroke it a few times before Joel stops you.
You don't have time to think or argue before he turns you over onto your side, situating himself behind you.
He's spooning you, except his left arm is hooked around your chest and his right has your leg lifted up, allowing his cock to slip between your folds.
Once again, he's got you right where he wants you.
"Joel," You bring your hands up to hold onto his forearm, pushing your ass back into him. "Put it in." You all but demand, trying to desperately grind your cunt on him.
He tightens his grasp on your collarbone, pulling you tighter against his chest. "Keep your leg up baby," Joel mutters lowly in your ear, letting go of your leg to guide his cock to your entrance.
His fat tip prods against your willing hole, making you dizzy with need. He runs his fingers along your folds one last time, gathering up your slick and using it to lubricate his cock.
Your heart is beating a million miles per hour. The moment you had been dreaming of for so long was finally here.
Joel, taking your virginity—your prayers were answered.
Slowly, Joel starts inching his way inside, the stretch making you gasp.
It feels fine at first, just a dull ache, but then it hurts—bad.
You squeeze your eyes shut and grit your teeth, trying to push through the pain. However, your body clenches down on the intrusive appendage, causing Joel to groan out.
It feels good for him, but he's been around the block a few times to know what's happening.
"You okay? I need'a stop?" He asks in that raspy voice of his, to which you immediately shake your head.
"Nonono, god no, don't stop. Just—just ram it in." You say foolishly, making Joel scoff.
"No, sweetheart, as much as I want to—bad idea." He brings his hand back down between your legs, rubbing a few slow circles into your clit. "Just relax and open up for me, thaaaats it," He encourages in that tone that lights fires in your core.
The perfect stimulation on the bundle of nerves made you forget all about the pain, letting your hole ease up a bit.
He takes the oppurtunity to keep breaching you deeper, peppering kisses to your neck and back in the process. His fingers stay glued to your clit, and before you know it, he's half way inside.
Your holding onto him so hard that your nails are leaving imprints on his forearm.
But you're so full of him and it's perfect. You can feel every twitch, every notch, every vein; or maybe you're just convincing yourself you can. Either way, mewls and moans are slipping from your lips and feeding Joel's growing ego.
"You feelin' good sweetheart?" He rasps in your ear, thrusting back and forth till he reaches that half way mark. You nod frantically, craning your neck to face him, desperate for a kiss.
He satisfies your wishes, kissing you slowly and passionately, like everything you've ever wanted.
His dick in you, his tongue down your throat, his arms pinning you to him. Fuck.
But you still want more.
In a shocking move, you slam your hips back against him, burying him all the way inside.
Moans fill your little bedroom, both his and yours, and for a moment, a flash of regret hits you like a truck.
He's big, and it fucking hurts.
But once the initial pain subsides, it’s like ecstasy.
"Fuck—girl, what'd ya do that for?" Joel hisses, tensing up because he's trying not to come fast.
"Couldn't wait," you pant, tears spilling out the corners of your eyes. "Please move." You're pleading because being stationary is somehow even more painful. You squirm in Joel's strong grasp, trying to stop the ache between your legs.
He's no match for you.
In a gentle but swift motion, Joel situates himself on top of you, closing your thighs together and putting them on one side of his body—all while still inside of you.
He cages you in with his big strong arms, looking down at your needy expression as he gradually starts rocking his hips into you. You're twisting your torso to remain looking at him, clawing at his biceps with your nails.
"This how you like it?" He huffs out, the sweat evident on his brow. "Deep n' slow?"
You want to respond to him, but it's hard to because every other sound you make is a moan.
He's so deep and never fails to hit the one spot that just makes you melt.
Opting for a non-verbal response, you nod with fever, gyrating your hips to meet his thrusts.
He chuckles, the sound alone makes you wanna come.
His name slips from your lips like a prayer—Joel finds it so cute because when he hits deep, your voice raises in pitch.
But he's no better, he'd been groaning in your ear since the start of it. He really cant help it, your cunt is like a silky, wet vice molded perfectly for his cock.
Joel lifts one of your legs up to his chest, securing his muscular arm around your thigh to keep it there. He continues he's deep thrusts, only this time picking up rhythm. He also brings his other hand down to lazily rub circles in your clit.
Christ.
Your head lolls back and your eyes roll into the back of your head. The stimulation was insanely perfect and all too much at the same time.
Your body wracks with jolts and spasms—your body trying to cope with everything it's feeling. Joel takes notice, a proud and lopsided smile spreading across his face.
"M'gonna cum," You whine, your body writhing against him with each thrust.
Your pussy is clenching down on him with each piston of his hips, Joel is not far behind you.
He rubs your clit in a way that makes you come undone, your back arching up off the bed and your toes curling from pleasure.
At the same time, Joel picks up his pace, only to pull his cock from inside you and pump it a few times before unloading his seed onto your naked torso.
For a moment, the only sound in the room is the heavy breathing coming from the both of you. Joel's staring down at your pussy, entraced with the way your hole is constricting around nothing.
Then, he looks at your face. Your eyes are closed, your lips are parted, your chest is heaving up and down. He's admiring you and all your fucked-out glory.
He brings a hand up to your face, wiping off the tear stains with his thumb. "You alright?" He husks out, looking down at you assessingly.
"M'perfect." You coo, slowly opening your eyes and leaning up to kiss him. Joel returns it, loving the way your mouth opens so readily for him.
He'd have to try it out with his dick next time.
"Can we go again?" You murmur into his mouth, your arms wrapping around his shoulders.
Joel scoffs because he thinks you're kidding. You're not. When he realizes this, he shakes his head in disbelief, pushing you down onto the bed by your shoulders.
"Don't worry, we got all summer."
#anon ask#first request yay#dbf!joel#joel miller x reader#joel miller smut#tlou fanfiction#the last of us hbo#joel tlou#joel the last of us#joel miller#tlou fic#one shot#drabble
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Obviously, part of his story is that Will needs to accept himself and be proud of being different, but the thing they focus on the most in his story is how deep, selfless, and beautiful his love for Mike is, and how sad he feels when he thinks he's losing Mike. The idea of losing Mike hurts him too much, and even the thought of just having to let go is painful. He says that if that had to happen, he wanted it to be like ripping off a bandaid, but the monologue was supposed to be that bandaid being ripped off, and it simply didn't work. He's still in love with him, and this will be addressed next season with the painting situation ✨
One of the things that makes me sure of Byler is that it's already clear to all of the viewers that absolutely no one in his family or friend group will hate Will for being gay. There's no doubt that Mike would accept him platonically because we have S1 where Mike beats up that kid for being homophobic to Will, and just knowing Mike's character he wouldn't be the type to be homophobic to his best friend, he would not give a fuck about that, ESPECIALLY if he was meant to be straight... so basically there is not really a decent story to tell there and Mike loving him too is the best story they can tell, the most surprising and happy and the most satisfying writing-wise
A story where Will confesses and is proud of himself but then gets immediately rejected by Mike is just such an ugly and underwhelming story to write, and it wouldn't make much sense to make so many explicit parallels to other love stories for byler and then focus this much on how beautiful Will's love for Mike is too if that didn't pay off at the end
This storyline would also help Mike's character arc, separating it from his fears around losing El to focus on a self discovery journey in general, we would see Mike gain more confidence in himself as a leader because of the type of love that Will has for him where he explicitly calls him the heart and inspiration of all of them!!!
Will's love for Mike gave him confidence VS. what we have seen happens to Mike when he's in a relationship with El... Eleven having superpowers and constantly choosing to leave him behind makes him feel like he's useless, he feels like he's not even Lois Lane in their dynamic now and her gaining independence growing up and not really needing him to be okay emotionally makes him feel insecure in himself... to the point he has resorted to pretending to be someone cooler than who he really is ( in s3 dismissing his love for D&D/games that are considered childish and in S4 arriving dressed as a "cool" surfer guy ) for the fear of her not wanting him anymore in her life in any way, clearly there's something not working out between them, love is not supposed to make you feel like that about yourself and it should be a natural and automatic thing that's coming directly from El resolving this problem, certainly not a 3rd person using his own feelings to fix their relationship.
This storyline would also tell a story of growth for both El and Mike at the same time, one where they let go of their first relationship that was based more on circumstance and fear of losing the other as a familiar person than actual intentional choices, and then they can show how you can still stay friends after.
I know this is the arc Melvins want for Will, but I believe it will be the other way around instead because... again, they focused too much on his love, making it too strong in the story to dismiss, and instead they showed how El was happy even without a relationship with Mike multiple times during the past seasons - they focused a lot on the relationships with her family and friends for her, it has always been what she needed the most and what she truly wanted 🌈
#said these things multiple times but I was thinking about this again so#byler#will byers#mike wheeler#anti mileven
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Welcome to my BG3 (male romanceable companions focused)
ANTI-SIX-PACK RANT /HEADCANONS
[Warning - bad English and possibly incorrect interpretations of characters]
[It’s just my headcanons, based purely on vibes. I also want to make it clear that I enjoy and respect various other hcs and portrayals of these characters (and i’ll probably draw them in various ways too). Do not fight me, i’ll cry lol]
WYLL
I’m a firm believer in Wyll being the only male companion with a (fairly) well-defined six-pack
He spent years training and he’s a son of a Grand Duke – so he probably ate well and learnt how to take care of his body properly
I also think he cares about the way he looks (/he’s aware how it can affect the way people perceive him) – so his muscles would be formed partially by practical use (fighting, training) and partially by some conscious muscle-building exercises. In other words, he’s the only male companion I can imagine doing planks and sit-ups in front of his tent lol
However, when I say “well-defined” abs, I mean a nice healthy balance between muscle and fat. None of that dehydrated “flexing 24/7” bullshit
ASTARION
I’m not sure if vampires sustain the body they had before being turned, and i kinda like this idea bc it could explain why Astarion looks like he’s in a good shape when we meet him in Act 1
However, my hc is that his body changes and gets healthier as the game progresses
In Act 1, he should be really thin. And I mean sickly thin. He was starved and tortured for centuries, and I can’t imagine him doing sit-ups in the kennels and working on a six-pack while barely surviving all the physical and psychological torture
After being tadpoled, he finally gets some freedom and is able to eat regularly (especially if Tav/Durge lets him feed on them, which is especially important in Act 2 where there aren’t many animals or alive enemies that he could feed on) – Astarion would get healthier and finally gain some weight
But still, I can’t imagine him doing core workouts in front of his tent. Let my boy rest.
He’s got some muscles (with emphasis on “some” bc that 8 in strength is.. you know), he builds them while doing all that rogue sneaking and killing – but overall he stays slim
Slim BUT (and i’ll die on this hill) he gains some softness. He finally gets that extra roll of fat on his stomach, a little bit of body getting squished by the waistband of his pants. He’s finally healthy and healing
Now we’re getting to the part where I start to scream at Larian for the crime of giving these men six-packs
HALSIN
What do you mean – we get a BIG elf, BIGGER than average elf should be, a man who resembles a BEAR, a man who often QUITE LITERALLY IS A BEAR(animal) – AND YOU DON’T MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE A BEAR(man)??? WHAT DO YOU MEANN??
Putting a high-definition six-pack on this man is a crime.
He should look like a bear, like the hammer-throwing athletes, like Thor in God of War, like a man who can lift a whole ass log while helping build a new shelter for his community. I need him strong. I need him big. I need him huggable. I need him to look like he would survive the winter
He should have strong arms (let’s ignore the fact that he has 10 in strength and that even Shadowheart is stronger than him)
He has muscles, build by physical work and for practical purposes – but they’re hidden under a healthy amount of fat
This man is not hitting the gym to form a six-pack. He’s got shit to do, place to be and people and nature to guide and protect
But, he wouldn’t overindulge in food – he believes in balance and all that, and I think he might view overeating as a waste
But still, the fat is there bc.. bc it just is, let him eat dammit
GALE
Larian when I catch you. Larian you cowards.
Why does his 8-strength ass have a six-pack. For why. What was the reasonn??
He doesn’t even have to move a finger to do anything, he can magic everything. Fighting? Magic. Having to move the couch in his room? Magic. Telekinesis probably.
This man doesn’t need a six-pack and you can’t tell me he was doing core workouts in his wizard tower – he’s been too busy reading and researching and mastering his spells and romancing a goddess (COUGH or rather being groomed cuz that power imbalance is nasty COUGH)
Also, he mentions food a couple of times, doesn’t he? He can cook, he likes to eat – that’s canon bc i said so. He looks like he enjoys his dessert after dinner. AND HE CAN AFFORD IT. If he can afford all those books, he can afford some snacks too
That being said, if we were allowed to have a fat romanceable man, it would be Gale. He doesn’t need to be slim, he doesn’t need to be ripped. There is nothing in his lore that would justify that (imo) – let his stomach be soft, amen.
(However, I also kinda like the idea of Gale using some sort of illusion spell and that his six-pack is magical lol. Imagine, the rest of the party finding out that this whole time he’s been wasting a spell slot and his concentration ON A SIX-PACK SPELL)
FEMALE ROMANCEABLE CHARACTERS
When it comes to the girls, I can see all of them having well defined muscles and six-packs – they’re all physically strong (or at least stronger than the guys) and they all have a history with fighting/training
I can also see them without six-packs – especially Shadowheart and Karlach (a bit more on it below)
LAE’ZEL – has the least body fat. I think her muscles should be the most visible. This is the only character who is allowed to have dehydrated muscles, and that's purely because of the way githyanki look
KARLACH – probably didn’t have a chance to rest and eat properly while in Avernus and then while being on the run. I think she could (similarly to Astarion) gain some weight throughout the game – she would finally have a chance to rest, eat and heal a bit. Also, she enjoys a nice meal and some beer
MINTHARA – I have to admit that I don’t know much about her. But she gives me the vibes of someone who likes a routine and takes their physical appearance very seriously (in a military-way, not fashion-way). I can see her building her muscles through fighting but also through purposeful exercises intended to keep her body lean and well built.
SHADOWHEART – she could have a six-pack, I’m down with this hc BUT. I can also see her having more curves and softness. Yes, she had to go through training – but she also can use spells in fights… so it should be fine for her to be softer
In conclusion – let them eat, let them be hydrated, let them look like people and not marvel superheroes
Doodle of Astarion going from starved and newly freed to eating better and getting chubbier
Controversial, but i'm six-pack hater. Out of romanceable male companions only Wyll should be allowed to have defined abs. Thank you for coming to my ted talk
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Valentine’s Day with Mr. Big!Patrick…
~2k words, smut under the cut, mdni
Another February 14th in New York City. The birds were chirping, the sun was shining, and you were… alone.
You hadn’t talked to Patrick in 3 days, which may not have seemed like a lot, but to you, it was a lot. You worried you two were slipping out of the honeymoon phase already, despite the fact that you’d only been dating for 2 months so far, and didn’t know what to do. You had spent the night with him 3 nights ago, and all was going well. That was until you mentioned Valentine’s Day.
“So… y’know what’s in 3 days,” you asked as you traced little hearts onto his toned bicep, offering him a goofy grin.
He chuckled a bit, his gravely ‘morning voice’ still very apparent and striking a chord somewhere deep within you. “Uhh… Friday?” His eyes crinkled as he grinned. He was like this. So devilishly handsome, so effortlessly adorable, and so painfully clueless. You often couldn’t tell if he was teasing or not, because he was, in some ways, a mystery to you even after all this time.
You chose to hope he was only kidding and smiled, rolling your eyes playfully. “Ha ha, very funny. It’s Friday but it’s also…” you attempted to prompt him, looking at him expectantly.
“Friday the 13th? I’ve got nothing sweetheart, why don’t you just tell me…” he replied smoothly, though it was anything but the answer you were hoping for. He pulled you into his arms and onto his chest when he spoke, leaving you unable to avoid his now obvious genuine lack of awareness at what holiday was right around the corner.
“You really don’t know?” He shook his head again. You couldn’t stand this. Sighing and slumping your head down onto his bare chest, you murmured into his skin “it’s Valentine’s Day.”
After you gave it away, he was surprised at how much you seemed to value the holiday and you were, in all honesty, pissed that he hadn’t realized or seemed to care once you told him. He acted like it was… just something silly. But what’s silly about love?
You had kissed him and then left, citing some meeting with your editor, expecting him to call later that night to apologize for being so careless. But when no such apology came, you were left confused and nearing a wallowing state, leaving you alone on Valentine’s Day.
You reached for the phone, hoping to call up your girl friends and see if they were also alone and wanted to get together, but right as you were about to pick it up, it began to rang. Picking it up immediately, you were pleasantly surprised to be met with Patrick’s voice.
“Happy Valentine’s Day, baby.” It was smooth. Maybe too smooth. But it was Valentine’s Day, after all. You were just happy to hear his voice.
“Happy Valentine’s Day,” you practically squealed back, flopping onto your bed as you twirled the phone cord in your finger.
“So I was thinking… you and me, we should spend the day together. I wanna take you out. I thought we’d start with a little walk around the city, I may or may not already have some flowers for you… and then we can go by that new cafe that just opened up for a late breakfast/early lunch-“
You cut him off then with an eager “yes!” “And then this evening I’ve sort of been invited to this Vogue Valentine’s party, it’s supposed to be really chic and classy, if you’d want to be my plus one…”
You can practically hear the smirk when his voice ripples through the phone. “Oh, I’d love to be your plus one.” You wanted to do a happy dance right there in your apartment. You were back in the game! “So I’ll meet you outside your apartment in 30 minutes?”
Your day from there was nothing short wonderful. He showed up at your door with a big bouquet of fresh, red roses, probably at least fifty, maybe a hundred. It was clear he spared no expense. As the two of you strolled through the city, it felt as if those three days hadn’t mattered at all, and maybe you were just overreacting, because here and now, this felt like it. Over brunch at the cafe —which was incredibly chic, by the way— the two of you discussed valentines past and laughed about all of the ridiculousness of your old relationships.
Of course, he mentioned how he didn’t like to celebrate Valentine’s Day normally, even being such a ladies’ man. He took the position of most men in Manhattan in corporate America: that it was “a commercial holiday made to sell chocolate, flowers, jewelry, and stuffed animals to poor saps who had to shower their wives or girlfriends with gifts and to lonely people wanting to drown their sorrows alike.” He was such a businessman. You had to remind him, then, that he had bought into it by buying you such nice roses, to which he only shot you a crooked smile accompanied by a wink, commenting “well you’re worth it.” God, you could just melt.
After brunch the two of you took the long way back to your apartment, walking through the park a bit. You marveled at all the sweet couples while he made cynical, sarcastic comments about how much they probably secretly hated each other. It wasn’t like he had an aversion to love, quite the opposite actually, but again, he was a businessman…
When you finally reached your apartment, you parted ways with a passionate kiss on your front steps. “Pick you up at eight?” He asked, smiling down at you lazily.
“Eight’s perfect,” you hummed.
“Knowing you, you’ll still be doing your hair at eight, but y’know you’re worth the wait,” he joked, kissing you again before starting off. “I’ll be here at eight, hold me to it,” he shouted as you parted ways.
“Oh, I will!”
He was right about what he’d said, dammit. You were obviously running late, per usual. You had picked out a dress, a satiny, red little number that didn’t leave much to the imagination. And actually your hair and makeup was done. It was the shoes you couldn’t decide on!
Patrick sat on your bed as you rummaged through your closet, hoping to find the elusive ‘perfect pair of shoes.’ “So what do these shoes look like exactly,” he called out, looking over the scattered pile of heels and pumps that laid not too far from his feet.
“I don’t know! I’ll know them when I see them… I just need the perfect shoes to go with this dress,” you insisted. At that, he scoffed.
“I think I like the dress better without much else on you…” he attempted to flirt with you, but this was no lighthearted matter. It was the Vogue party and you needed the perfect shoes. You rummaged around a bit more, reaching into the depths of your closet before you found a kitten heeled sandal with a floral detail. It was perfect!
“Ok, we can go now,” you exclaimed, posing in the doorway of your closet for him. His eyes raked over your body, jaw slack. He moved to check his watch, then.
“And only 30 minutes late,” he remarked, quirking an eyebrow as a silent ‘I told ya.’
“Hey, we’re fashionably late…”
The party was nice, with an open bar and goodie bags with Chanel and Dior samples, you couldn’t complain. It was a bit… tame, though. After some schmoozing, introducing Patrick to some writers you knew and basking in the ‘oh, you two make such a hot couple’-s, you both were ready to leave.
“What’s say we get outta here and go back to my place…” he whispered into your ear, dipping down to place a kiss onto your shoulder as he took the empty glass out of your hand, handing it to one of the many waiters patrolling the event. You looked around, mostly to make sure that you had talked to everyone you needed to, before turning to him and smiling.
“I’d like that.”
Back at his apartment, Patrick offered you some wine and even pulled out some chocolate covered strawberries for you two to enjoy. It was lovely, but that didn’t last long, both your burning desires for each other bubbling up like champagne popping from a bottle.
You were making out on his couch, the view of the city from his window underscoring the moment perfectly, as the Empire State Building lit up in a heart. “Oh, Pat, look…” you pulled away to point it out. He only hummed in response, pulling you back in and mumbling into your lips how it was ‘sweet.’
Eventually, you two moved from the couch to his king sized bed, the Egyptian cotton sheets cascading around you as he ravaged you. His lips were all over you like he was a man starved. He tugged at the hem of your dress, pulling it up and off of you in moments, marveling at your beauty.
“Happy Valentine’s Day to me…” he mumbled, more so to himself, sighing. He then freed himself of his finely tailored suit, moving back to you, the feeling of skin on skin so tender and so intimate. He brought his lips to your chest, pressing hot kisses to your skin and tonguing at you teasingly. It made you giggle and your face screw up in pleasure all at the same time.
“Pat…” you whined, looking at him with a needy pout. He only smirked at that.
“Yeah, okay, okay, I know I shouldn’t tease… it is Valentine’s Day after all. Let me show you how much I care…” He tugged his boxers down, pulling your panties to the side and sliding in easily, a breathy groan escaping his lips as his eyes shut. You gasped as he began to move, first at a steady pace, then quickening soon after, as if he couldn’t help himself.
“I missed ‘ya, honey,” he panted as he thrust in and out of you swiftly. “I’m sorry I was a dick about Valentine’s Day. You’ve-“ he hit especially deep, causing you to moan and squeeze tightly around him. “Y- you’ve shown me just how good it can be...” He leaned in to kiss you, stifling you moans as he still moved in and out at an impossible speed. You were overwhelmed by pleasure and adoration. As he shoved into you, you kissed and bit down lightly on his shoulder, trying to contain yourself, knowing he liked to finish together.
He knew you were almost there and he didn’t want to keep you waiting. Moving even quicker, if it was even possible, he felt that familiar heat, knowing then that he was ready. “I’m there baby- fuck… c’mon.” One of his hands was tangled in your hair but the other one came down to rub at your clit, making your hips buck up as you gasped.
“Fuck, Pat, I’m gonna…m’gonna…” you sighed, eyes fluttering shut as your release overtook your body, feeling him come down too. He pulled out, laying next to you and pulling your body close to his and kissing your forehead.
“Can I tell you something,” he asked, voice muffled as he spoke into your hair.
“Sure,” you muse back. He sounded sweet, contemplative, as if he might finally say those three little words… (‘I love you.’)
“I am so glad you’re on the pill…” he chuckled dryly, leaving you to roll your eyes and flick him in the arm. You relationship may have been a bit rough around the edges, but hey, it was yours.
#help I meant for this to be a blurb and then it ended up nearly 2k words#committing to it though because I’m just glad inspiration struck somewhere lol#expect more Valentine’s Day stuff coming up soon bc fun fact about me: it’s my favorite holiday!!!#Mr Big!Patrick is so fun to write idk lmk if y’all are rocking with it lol#cordelia writes#challengers#patrick zweig#patrick zweig x reader#patrick zweig fic#patrick zweig smut
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petty, are there any examples of the black x white dynamic where the top is one who’s white-coded for a change?
WAIT! Pause, Anon! I don't think I can answer this question because I believe you are discussing two different things:
Color-coded characters
My wild ass theory
Color-Coded Characters
There are black x white coded characters in TV series and films that represent different concepts throughout the narrative. They could represent that one character is closed-off and guarded (or mean) while the other is more open and honest (aka nice).
Or the black and white could also represent bad versus good.
But whatever the black and white dynamic represents depends on the story since the colors are there to support the narrative and its themes.
However, I think you are blending color-coded characters with my wild ass theory.
My Wild Ass Theory
For the last year or so, I've collected over three hundred promotional images that I believe show an intentional creative decision to present QL actors in a stereotypical seme/uke dynamic through the use of the black x white color dynamic. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Bonus, Future Pair?
And we often use the seme/uke terms interchangeably with top/bottom (activo/pasivo) AND dom/sub even though all those terms have different meanings, but that's not what this post is about.
This is why I was surprised by Gemini and Fourth's costumes on The Mask Singer Soulmate since I believe it adds weight to my wild ass theory that this black/white (yin yang) dressing is an intentional creative decision to maintain pair branding and uphold seme/uke dynamics.
So it's difficult for me to answer your question since I think you are asking about two different things.
My Answer
You want to know if there is a character who is the bottom but colored black and if there is a character who is the top but colored white.
I can't really answer that because, usually, in a show, the colors aren't being used to tell position preferences. They are being used to tell something about the characters' personalities or highlight the story's themes.
However, Wandee Goodday's OST did intentionally and explicitly state (through colors and actual positions) that the main characters were vers.
The show, which was directed by Golf who is non-binary and trans, also played with the dom/sub dynamic by making the boxer a bunny and the doctor a tiger.
The author of Wandee Goodday is also the same as To Be Continued, and we also saw this dynamic play out in the show with the doctor being a tiger and the actor being the bunny.
And, once again, because we tend to (incorrectly) use dom/sub and top/bottom interchangeably, the tiger could be seen as the top if you are the woman from the Taiwanese BL Unknown.
However, the colors alone won't tell us which character in a TV series is the top and who is the bottom in a relationship, but, sometimes, shows do tell us in other ways and use the colors to highlight it.
Hopefully, this made sense. I just want to make it clear that my wild ass theory does not transfer to characters in TV shows. My wild ass theory is based on the actors and the creative teams behind their branding.
But . . .
I will leave you with the one branded pair in my wild ass theory that consistently plays color games.
#the colors mean things#but not what we think#color coded characters in love#the colors tell them about us and the story not about positions#black x white
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So I'm a gay man from a completely different part of the world from any of you, and so I don't have much insight into the dating culture of the US because I've never participated in it - or dating culture at all, really. Nonetheless, I'm gonna leave my two cents on this under the cut. Feel free to ignore them if you'd prefer to.
what's essential is understanding that other people including women are full humans just like you, who matter just as much as you.
I'm mostly sure OP already understands that. There's no indication that he doesn't, at least. In either case, this is by your own admission the bare minimum. We both know that the bare minimum isn't gonna cut it here.
there are so many women who are out there who want a guy who is caring and on top of his shit. like the bar is so low for some women, it's not hard to clear it.
See, showing other people that you're caring is hard, especially when you're showing it with the intention of pursuing them romantically - which, let's not kid ourselves, is the intention here. Even if you do mange to convey that - again, it's still only the bare minimum. It's good, sure, but not enough.
less dating apps, more befriending all sorts of people through hobbies and volunteer work.
"Befriend" is the key word here. Dating people you were friends with befrehand is complicated to say the least, we could have an entire separate thread about it, but to summarize my outlook I think it's half a matter of luck and half one of finesse. If you don't do everything exactly, perfectly right, it can easily end with both of you sad, angry and potentially traumatized - and it will be your fault, not in the sense you'll be blamed for it, but in that it'll be objectiely your fault.
figure out what you have to offer to the world, offer it, people will take notice.
Sure, they might. If they do though, will anyone want it? If they want it, why would they not seek it from someone else? Someone who's been doing it for longer, who's more skilled at it, or who's just got more to offer besides it? Just "having something to offer" isn't good enough, it's the bare minimum.
There's nothing you can offer that can't be easily found somewhere else. It doesn't matter who you are, there's always gonna be a billion other people exactly like you except better. And what, you want somebody else to settle for you when it'd be easier, less risky and more gratifying to just look for somoene better instead? That's selfish. I'm not being coy here, it is objectively, undeniably selfish to want that. I do need this to be clear: I'm not blaming anyone other than OP/the hypothetical man this advice is aimed at in this scenario.
it also really really sucks for straight women, my god does it suck ass. you need to understand the ways it sucks for women before you can improve your game, btw.
I mean, I think the ways it sucks are fairly obvious. A lot of people do it but at least for me it's kind of hard to ignore the murders, rapes and domestic abuse. By all means seek to understand them and work to not perpetrate them, but "Don't be a piece of shit" really doesn't paint a very clear picture of what, specifically, you're supposed to do beyond that point.
so many people want out of the box and are out of the box. go befriend and dare them.
If you pardon me being cynical (it's sort of my gimmick, if you couldn't tell), what reason do the people out of the box have to give some dumbass newcomer who just crawled out of the box the time of day? Just thinking "out of the box" isn't enough. It's the bare minimum. It's still just objectively not good enough.
you've set up an equation that means that you must always lose, and it's the type of equation that is primed to make you hate women.
I mean yes and no? From what I understood, one of the equation's components is "if a man fails to find a relationship, the failure is all his". If you interpret this as a false preconception that the world around you holds then yeah I can see how it'll lead down that path, but if you interpret it as true then at worse it'll just lead to hating oneself. Not ideal no, but at least no women are impacted as a result.
this equation is false, and based on false premises, that you and a ton of men and women think is gospel.
It depends on how you define false, really. If we go by objective, observable reality then actually both the presented equations are false and all human interaction is nothing but the absurd acts of chemicals (this is what I believe, to put all my cards on the table).
If you wanna be less Reddit-ey about it though, one could easily argue that - because "the equation" is, consciously or otherwise, upheld by the majority of the population (at least the ones involved in the straight dating scene anyway), then it's true in the sense that it is the social norm that you're expected to abide by. You can say it's morally wrong, sure, but it's still just as "true" as things like dining etiquette and formal grammar.
Feel free to ignore dining etiquette all you like, but you're gonna get a lot of mean looks from relatives and restaurant staff.
one of your falsities is that straight and bi women don't like feminine men. this is patently false. have you met a goth woman? have you met a woman who is in fandom? they are jerking it to the most pathetic and wet sissy rat men.
Fictional men and real men are radically different. For starters, fictional men are just plainly easier to grow emotionally attached to because they come with none of the... "Baggage", for the lack of a better word, and just because someone thinks baby-faced white twinks (because make no mistake, that is what 99.5% of fandom, regardless of gender, imagines when they hear the words "feminine man") look hot on TV doesn't mean they'd ever want to actually date one. Hell, even baby-faced white twinks are becoming kinda passé. Himbos are all the rage right now and I'm sorry but the average guy just isn't himbo material.
Another reason you shouldn't use people's attractin to fictional characters as a baromater is because fictional characters are just kind of... Innately superior to real people, in the sense that it's much easier to glance over all the less palatable aspects of their characters and focus exclusively on the aspects that appeal to you. You can't really do that with a real person.
This is of course not even taking cultural differences into account. I am gay myself and even I'm afraid of presenting as femininely as I'd like to beause (body image issues nonwithstanding) I live in rural Brazil and that's just not socially accepted here, be it by women or men. If I were a straight guy and I did try being A Little Gender and Gay I'd get rightfully told to go fuck myself.
So for my conclusion, I definitely don't know enough about the topic to say whether or not you're right about it, but the advice offered is only a basic foundation that only really helps if you've already got okay to good social skills - which let's be honest, just doesn't describe most men, straight or otherwise.
Even if a guy does every single thing you've advised here though, all he'll have accomplished is... Being a sort of okay guy, maybe. That's a good start for sure but even then you're still gonna fall short. You're still not gonna be interesting, or special, or exciting... Or good enough. And in my experience, if you aren't these things already, you'll probably never be.
TL;DR, here's my point: I think your advice is ultimately harmless, but commits the usual error of only providing a semi-real sense of hope. I'm willing to bet a lung that you and your casanove friends all have much, much more to offer to potential partners than anyone in this thread has or ever will have... And that's kinda the problem. The harsh reality you're avoiding is that some people aren't meant to find love - and if you haven't already found it, that probably includes you.
For what it's worth, I do at least have a boyfriend. We'll probably never meet IRL, but it's good enough for me. Maybe the real lesson OP and other guys should learn is how to acept the cards you've been dealt.
I looked at this thread
and it's another signal from the world of something like "sociosexual realism". Which is like, feminism or whatever told us that men and women were equally agentic, but unfortunately it was lying, and actually it's men's responsibility to be seductive, and if they fail at that then TFR goes down and the Amish win.
It's not just the thread, a lot of relationships and dates make me feel this way.
I'm stuck believing this unpleasant belief. What am I missing? Is the world not like that?
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School Spirits Season 2 (episode 4) liveblog/thoughts
**Spoilers for School Spirits Seasons 1 and 2x01-2x04
I am so wary of Janet's motives. I get that she lost all the money so her options are limited, but this feels so icky. (I mean, also she stole Maddie's body, but this particular act of coming home to her mom seems worse, somehow. I guess because she's had time to think about it at this point).
So, am I reading this correctly and the current belief (because who knows how correct they ever are in their assumptions) is that it’s possible for the ghosts to access each other’s hellscapes, not just their own? Hm. Interesting.
"Togetherness Day" wtf.
Alright, so are they actually wrong about being able to access each other’s “scars,” or is it that they haven’t figured out how to use the keys like Janet and Mr. Martin? We know Janet and Mr. Martin can do things the others haven't figured out yet. Plus, the ghosts make a lot of wrong assumptions in the show, so I'm going to say it's pretty likely Mr. Martin just has more knowledge/skills.
I’m not sure what Mr. Andersons relevance is going to be to the season, but I am relieved to find that they have not entirely ignored the fact that he committed a felony, because I was very confused how he was just seemingly facing 0 consequences in the first 3 eps.
Simon and Xavier continue to be one of my favorite dynamics of the season! I’m still really surprised by this, but I love them!
“We lost her.” “Where’d she go?” Maddie, I think you’re ever so slightly missing the concept of “losing” someone here. But on another note, the energy difference between Simon and Maddie in this scene is fairly strange. It almost feels like they weren’t filmed together. It legitimately makes me wonder if there was a scheduling conflict here.
I don’t think they can force students to stay after hours at the school, like, legally speaking.
Wally noooo 😭 They shouldn’t have sent him to deal with that on his own, like they knew it was going to be traumatizing, someone should have been waiting for him to come out of the scar so he wasn’t alone.
I find it interesting that Wally’s scar features his coach yelling at him to get in the game, when we know that coach is the one who pulled him out and thought he needed a break. From the way the football was portrayed (and his mom), it’s clear the scars don’t reflect an exact reality, so does that mean they can change based on the ghost’s emotional relationship to what happened to them? Can they be different every time?
Rofl, that CLAY. I cannot.
Surely we're getting a Yuri/Charley romantic storyline.
Yuri has a point, they are already dead. This is the exact reason that I don’t really understand why Mr. Martin is running from them. What can they do to him that’s any worse than how things already are? That’s what makes me think there has to be something worse out there.
Why are Simon and Xavier my favorite part of this season???
I’m not sure where the Claire stuff is going, so I’m just kinda letting it play out for now.
Okay, again, why are we letting Charley face his scar without anyone waiting to be there for him when he gets out?? Ghost Squad you are letting me down on the emotional support scale today.
As expected, it seems like Mr. Martin can access their scars, even though they don't know how to get into each other's.
For the love of god, someone go with Wally! Don’t just stand there!
The Invasion of the Body Snatchers poster on Maddie’s wall took me out, rofl, omg has that always been there? I don’t remember seeing it before, but I didn’t rewatch season 1, either, so idk. It's entirely possible that I saw it and commented on it in season 1 and have just completely forgotten.
I still really don’t know how to feel about Janet. She definitely has a seemingly sympathetic backstory, and clearly her stealing Maddie’s life is not a morally pure move, but we understand why she took that opportunity. That being said, Mr. Martin being the biggest bad of the season seems anticlimactic and the show loves a twist, so I’m still very suspicious there’s going to be a big rug pull with her. I also still think she might have killed her father.
I am glad Maddie went after Wally, like about time! He needs support! Let's not let anyone go repeatedly face the trauma around their death without some support!
“They really fired him,” (Mr. Anderson). Okay, I am once more pointing out that the man committed a felony. He may have sympathetic motives, but let’s be realistic here. He stole thousands of dollars from work, falsified student grades, and destroyed evidence in a missing person’s investigation. Of course they fired him. (Also, I know she was blackmailing him, so he had a reason to be pissed at her, but does anyone else remember how sinister he was to Claire last season when he told her he couldn't remember what he said to the police?)
The way they’re playing the Mr. Anderson stuff, it’s really starting to make me think they’re gonna pull a twist villain thing with him. Because otherwise why is he getting so much screen time that makes him look so sympathetic? Since the blackmail/money situation doesn't seem to be related to the ghosts and what happened to Maddie, he doesn't feel particularly relevant as a character.
Wally talking sense! Thank you, Wally. But also, his comparison of Mr. Martin and Mr. Anderson and basically being like “Mr. Martin betraying me would be like Mr. Anderson betraying you,” feels like possible foreshadowing. Wow. It's amazing how suspicious I have become of Mr. Anderson again.
Has anybody been checking out the other movie posters on Maddie’s walls to see if they might be relevant? I haven't gone back and looked, but in this episode I noticed Pretty in Pink, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter, and Janet/Maddie wears a Carrie t-shirt at the end.
Lol, that closet is in no way small enough that Xavier’s armpit needed to be in Nicole’s face.
I do love that Xavier was thinking clearly enough to determine that Simon has to maintain his access to the school or they will be cut off from Maddie, because common sense has not been particularly present from the characters this episode.
Who has been possessed? And what does that mean from the ghost standpoint? They said the only time it "felt" like this without a death was when Janet possessed Maddie, but that also meant that Maddie appeared as a ghost, so presumably they should be able to go find whoever has been displaced wandering around as a ghost and then immediately know who Mr. Martin (we're assuming this was Mr. Martin's doing) took over. Somehow, I don't think it will be that simple.
So the obvious choice for possession is Claire. She was very emotionally vulnerable throughout the episode and she feels the least relevant this season (with Simon & Xavier being a team up and Xavier & Nicole [unknowingly] talking online, and Claire being the most skeptical of the group, she just feels very outside of everything). However, I'm not sure how that would happen with Maddie and Simon sitting right there with her. I would have thought maybe it happened before Simon finds her in the stadium, but if so, then why did the lights/feeling not happen until later?
The next most obvious choice would be Chloe, but the episode practically puts a neon flashing arrow above her at the end there with her line about getting a lot out of the experience and she and the principal are the only two characters really focused on outside of the main group, but that feels so heavy handed and obvious, then.
I do wonder if Mr. Anderson was still there (we never saw him leave, did we?) and he's the one who has been possessed. It would make sense. He's also emotionally vulnerable in this episode, and with the comparison of him to Mr. Martin (and the fact that it would probably be a lot easier for Mr. Martin to pretend to be Mr. Anderson than Claire or Chloe), it feels like they're really setting something up there.
#school spirits#school spirits season 2#school spirits spoilers#school spirits season 2 spoilers#lb#mine#text#long post
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Roleswap AU except Akechi and Joker are childhood friend soulmates and doing their own thing with Futaba.
Meanwhile, Haru, with her natural proficiency with psychic abilities, is forcibly pushed to awaken her persona Wu Zetian, and becomes Noir, Shido's personal assassin and her father's bargaining chip. Haru's psychic power revolves around hypnosis and brainwashing. It basically opens the target's mind to suggestion, and when needed, she can break them as well. Unlike Call of Chaos, which awakens the target's ugliest hidden impulses, Haru's power directly suppresses their ability to think for themselves. If used repeatedly, it will slowly turn the target unresponsive to outside stimuli, their mind completely atrophied. She had to work with Dr. Maruki who was selected to nurture Haru's powers. The first choice would've been Isshiki Wakaba, but her lab mysteriously caught fire after a failed experiment exploded...
Deluding herself into thinking that she was serving justice, she aided Shido and her father in taking down corrupt and abusive men. If these men turned out to also be competition, then it must simply be a coincidence. Unlike in-game Akechi, who seems to not really use his powers outside of orders, Haru is a prolific power abuser in an almost Phantom Thief fashion. She does this out of genuine wish to help, but a tiny part of her is also using this as a way to maintain her illusion of justice. Like, look, I'm helping! All of this is for justice! Would a horrible assassin desperate for her father's approval do this? Only, the problem is that her power is not permanent, so she either has to make the decision of using her power again and again, or let the power fade and the target will revert to their original ways.
When she first learns about the Phantom Thieves, she's intrigued. She always felt alone in her justice, but now, there are more people using the Metaverse and persona powers for justice. This is so exciting! Except she meets them and immediately hates their guts because all she sees are nicer, less unhinged versions of herself. They're untainted and naive and sincere in all the ways she isn't (or so she thinks). They make it so so clear that Haru is delusional in her view of justice, that it's all nonsense she's making up to cope. They never murdered anyone (Goro says lol), never felt their victim target's mind break in their hands. Shido had ordered her to destroy them. She was hesitant at first, but now she inexplicably wants to do exactly that.
(Dirty their purity and break their innocence, like Haru had to break herself)
#me: makes akeshu childhood friends au#my brain: oh this is about akeshutaba siblings#me: euh no?#brain: oh so it's about wakaba and goro's complicated relationship?#me: ... erm#brain: blackmask haru then?#me: you know what? sure#persona 5#p5#haru okumura#okumura haru#technically#shuake#akeshu#but only spiritually#aks chf au#akira original#long post#black mask haru
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As many others, I am processing my disappoint with C3 and especially choices in the finale. Do you have any recommendations of narratives (tv, books, movies, video games, actual play, etc.) that you have really enjoyed and might recommend as something that really sticks the landing? My recommendation to others who might see this ask would be the Mistborn book trilogy, as I felt it had an incredibly satisfying ending that was surprising but also so clear in the narrative once you looked back. Love reading all your meta!
I do love Mistborn so that is a good one; some others
LOTR; this is obvious but like, I know where I come from (also very good in a sense of You Will Be Changed And Can Never Truly Go Back)
Vorkosigan saga 4ever; this is a bit of a commitment because to get the incredible middle section of it to properly land (Memory/Komarr/A Civil Campaign) you do sort have to read everything that came before, which is good but doesn't make me eat drywall
I have played 2.5 video games in the past decade as discussed extensively but I personally do feel that Veilguard, while weak in some parts, did stick the landing for me, and Disco Elysium did as well and very much hits a lot of the cathartic/comforting elements I just mentioned in my previous ask.
I Saw the TV Glow for a film I saw relatively recently that lands an ambiguous ending very well
The Fifth Season (trilogy) by NK Jemison
for standalone books: Both Piranesi and Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norell by Susanna Clarke; and The City and the City by China Mieville all manage to land bittersweet and/or weird endings and are genuinely unique concepts
Comic series: if you came away from C3 like "wow I actually really loved the scenes in the finale with the gods talking about what this means for them, and wish the concepts of divinity and cycles had been explored in depth" run don't walk to pick up The Wicked and the Divine (completed)
TV shows: Mad Men is good throughout and never misses the mark, though i will admit it's like I'm so glad I watched it all the way through as it aired, and I don't know if I'll ever do a rewatch? but also I'm not a massive rewatcher. Succession also sticks the landing. It's a dark landing, to be sure, and one that never flinches from, well, consequences, but they do stick it. It's been a hot minute since I watched the Wire and iirc it gets uneven in parts (though still excellent throughout) but also people should just watch The Wire.
Other actual play: all three seasons of NADDPod stick the landing, but especially the first nails it. I like TAZ but I do think it can sometimes soften its blows, though the tone of the show is such that I'm more forgiving. I also find myself saying "I really enjoy D20, but endings are not necessarily the strong suit" and that's maybe something I should explore. The other actual plays I watch either I haven't finished, or they haven't finished, which is wild to consider.
Fiction Podcasts: Penumbra podcast, Midst, Silt Verses - I'm a bit of a broken record but all three of this end in a way that is, above all, true to the work and deeply satisfying.
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I was thinking and what is stopping Killer from being labeled as god level or at least Demi-god level. So I was thinking what do all the gods and self proclaimed gods have that Killer doesn’t. Ink canonically isn’t actually that strong in battle but the fandom still labels him a god so it isn’t raw power. Nightmare and Dream aren’t ever scripted having abilities to destroy or affect an entire Au effortlessly even they have limits so it’s not that perhaps being a god in the Undertale fandom is all about purpose to be considered a god or god level you must hold domain over something and so I ask what is stoppping Killer from realistically being labeled god level when honestly knowing his lore he should be I feel as if his own strengths are pushed to the side, forgotten, or underestimated becomes Nightmare was able to capture and manipulate him. He’s able to take on both Dream and ink even when their working together and they themself are often labeled as god level Nightmare wouldn’t stand a chance if it wasn’t for the fact that he can only be damaged by one specific thing but that doesn’t meat he can’t be outwit.
The closest thing we have to a god in Undertale is Asriel/Flowey that way we can more easily scale things. Flowey after absorbing six souls same power level as Color can still technically be defeated as long as such a being didn’t have determination although it can’t really be compared to pacifist or genocide run human as in one get break the rules of the game to take a second turn doing unknown amount of damage the second human is then able to erase the world a power Flowey doesn’t seem to be able to acces but Asriel can. As a god Asriel has the power to erase the world and easily bring it back same as Chara it’s not a power that just anyone can access but Killer is known to have access to and yes Nightmare was shown to be able to destroy his button but that hardly matters when Asgore does the same and the human can bring it back.
We might not have enough data of Killer full abilities since he is know to hold back but seeing how he can fight the entirety of the Star Sanses without breaking a sweat he definitely holds back more then he shows. But, what if his battle with Blue I love him but he isn’t beating Killer. Killer didn’t even loose but the fact that he Blue unintentionally brought up upsetting emotions and feelings along with him acting and speaking just like Papyrus his hardest enemy no wonder the fight went poorly at first after that Blue couldn’t really escape or do anything against him. Sorry for the rant
~Musical Anon.
As Killer stated himself, all depends on what “universe” and interpretation a Player is going with—on who’s the strongest. Fandom often sees people like Dream, Nightmare, Error and Ink the equivalent of Gods—so they are surprised to learn that Ink isn’t really, and taking him down isn’t really that hard. Not to mention Ink has been stated to not jump straight to violence as their first option.
Also relevant to mention that Blue has reasons to hold back in the fight with Killer, and was approaching him with intentions to help—whereas Killer had every intention of making him give up and go away.
Even if that meant playing with Swap’s emotions and fighting ugly and dirty—using underhanded tricks, even including making Blue believe that he was willingly to stop fighting and accept help only to stab him in the eye when he let his guard down.
Killer doesn’t care about the Star Sanses. It’s his job to deal with them, and as he says, he unfortunately is not allowed to kill them. They, in contrast, have shown a desire to understand Killer—why he’s doing this—and help him.
They want to help him, at least Blue and Dream do, and they don’t want to hurt him. Killer has made it clear he won’t hesitate to use that against them, and the most he seems effected by Dream’s attempts at first is that he found it boring that Dream wasn’t doing anything back against him.
In large part, Killer fights very differently than the three of them do. So I’d say that is one big reason why he wins—some may view it as him being stronger or more skilled and intelligent, or it can simply be because the four of them are different people with different experiences and values. Either or, or a mix.
But thinking of Killer is something on a God or Demi-God level would be interesting..
#howlsasks#🎤#utmv#sans au#sans aus#canon k1ll_sans#star sanses#dream sans#dream!sans#ink sans#ink!sans#swap sans#swap!sans#nightmare sans#nightmare!sans#error sans#error!sans#killer sans#killer!sans#killer & nightmare#empty duo#I forgot the duo name for dream & killer 😭#something blue#<- duo name placeholder not the ship#undertale au#undertale aus#killertale#killertale sans#undertale something new#undertalesomethingnew
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Meet my MC!
Thanks for tagging me! @indycinders .w. This will be a mess all of my headcanons are all over the place lol.
(Totally almost forgot Sylus’ mc so she’s her dragon version for funsies lol)
Name: Iris Artyom
Nicknames: Si, Kitten, Love, Bun, Starlight
Canon age: 23 (25 outside of canon)
Pronouns: She/They
Headcanons:
🪻Likes to sleep in as much as Xavier does.
🪻Used to have Caleb straighten her hair for her, now gets extensions or will wear wigs to protect her natural hair while on missions.
🪻Resonated with the cat evol one time on accident while playing kitty cards and is now permanently stuck like that. Still able to use the resonance evol due to the nature of how it works.
🪻Very sweet and affectionate once she gets close to someone, can be aloof or appear disinterested if by herself but will usually perk up and keep pleasant conversation when spoken to by strangers/people she doesn’t know well. Can be playful and cheerful once she’s brought out of her shell. Took a long time before she accepted the fact that Caleb was “gone”.
🪻Likes to spend her free time going out to karaoke.
🪻Do not ask her how much she’s spent on the claw machines.
🪻Most of the Iris’ lore happens in separate timelines where they boys don’t really cross paths that often outside of like…yknow maybe a love triangle here or there so still figuring out how things would overlap from say- Caleb’s Iris as a main starting point.
Main Love Interest:
(Heheh it used to a fist fight between Sylus and Xavier .w. No one was ready for Caleb to come back)
Caleb Headcanons:
🪻 These two were really competitive as children, and it’s something that’s carried into their adulthood. Iris is always trying to catch up to Caleb, but he’s always one step ahead of her. Not that she doesn’t keep him on his toes, it’s not easy to outsmart this clever kitty.
🪻She was an absolute sobbing mess when both of them finally broke down the wall between them- or at least as much as Caleb allowed it to be. She made sure he could feel the way she punched right his arm as the beginning of her retribution for not telling her for a full year.
🪻 Both are very clingy with each other, but Iris has to be the one to initiate it most of the time unless Caleb’s jealous or works up the nerve. She gets frustrated with his excuses and hesitation, so she drops very clear hints. Caleb has yet to win a single pocky game against her. She’s still waiting for him to be the one to admit his feelings truthfully, however, and now that there’s a big gap between them, she knows he has to be the one to mend it this time and not have her be the one to coax him into it.
🪻Regularly gets into little fights with Zayne over Iris still. Secretly wants her to change doctors but also wouldn’t trust that person with her either. He seethes in the corner in every visit he can make it to.
🪻Both sleep better together than alone. Caleb’s used that spare key numerous times just to come in and get some proper sleep before having to report back to Skyhaven.
🪻Secretly as a child Caleb had told every other boy they went to school with that he planned to marry Iris when they were older so no one dared to go against the king of the playground’s wishes and would leave her alone.
🪻Do not leave Caleb and Xavier in a room together- I repeat do NOT leave Caleb and Xavier in a room together. Somebody’s gonna die. .-.
🪻Caleb steals a lot of forehead and cheek kisses from Iris when she’s asleep. She’s caught him a few times and squealed to herself quietly about it when he leaves, but has to pretend to be perfectly asleep and not freak out over it when he lays down with her.
Favorite Outfits:
🪻Likes: Animals, plants, sweets, reading, sitting and watching the fire in fireplaces, cuddling, singing, dancing even if she has two left feet, dressing up, taking pictures.
🪻Dislikes: Mean people, being cold for too long, long hours of desk work at the association, “those stupid axe wielding wanderers”, making Caleb upset.
Platonic / Other Headcanons
🪻Rafayel might be one her best friends, maybe next to Xavier. They complain together a lot whenever she comes over to hang out/ “bodyguard” duties, and he’s heard a lot of her woes over Caleb and Zayne or the silly things her upstairs neighbor does while Xavier keeps her company when she’s lonely/they have free time from the association. Both are pinning for her quietly knowing she’s already getting pulled in two directions hoping to show her that they’re both also suitable for her and hoping she gets fed up with the other two so they can step in. Rafi and Xavi know about each other and aren’t exactly happy that the other has the same goals- but at least they’re on an even playing field. If both of them weren’t the jealous type- I see them being a good poly. .w.
🪻Sylus is biding his time hoping that he’ll be the victor in the end once Iris fully resonates with him and remembers who he is. He doesn’t mind if he showed up a little late, he wont fault her for having a little “fling” or two while he wasn’t around. Makes no effort to hide his affections for her despite this and it drives Caleb crazy thinking it’s from some guy named “Skye” he’s never met. Sylus always plans his and Iris’ meetings while Caleb is away on missions in the deepspace tunnel and has Mephisto keep track of him while he’s following Iris. The twins regularly make “mom and dad” jokes about them not only to tease the pair but to also get Iris to focus more on their boss since they actually really like her and wanna help Sylus out where they can.
🪻Zayne is beyond furious with Caleb and reminds Iris as a voice of reason that he’s deceived her multiple times and allowed her to think he was dead. Zayne was the one to really comfort her through everything, and he was making moves to confess his feelings towards her before Caleb turned up in Skyhaven. Zayne only found out briefly before Iris did and hoped they wouldn’t cross paths, but he knew they did by her expressions and the way she avoided bringing up the topic as to why she was late to their midnight meeting that day when they were trying to save the boy with the Aether Core fragment. He knows something happened during her “vacation”, but he also knows Caleb is a highly dangerous individual and doesn’t stand to do much but accuse him in private. Both of them know that either of them can’t hurt each other without dragging Iris into things, so it’s like they’re having a silent war before the real one starts.
#si speaks#meet my mc#lads buddies#love and deepspace#lads mc#lads caleb#lads sylus#lads zayne#lads xavier#lads rafayel#lnds#i did most of this on mobile like a crazy person lol
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This is. An EXTREMELY unfair and biased analysis, I’m really sorry. If you want to do an earnest look at a character, you should *never* stoop to insulting other people’s legitimate reads and claiming they objectively read the character wrong.
And then to just dismiss these people as edgelords? It’s just petty.
Lemme offer a counter argument:
Koujaku, via the tattoo’s influence, has his worst, most primal feelings exaggerated. This is most evident when we first see him go berserk and kill Ryuuhou. He mentions afterwards and in re:connect that killing Ryuuhou was always his endgame, but then why does he not do so in the tattoo parlor? Koujaku is consciously aware of how horrific it is to kill someone, even someone who may be deserving of it. Even in critical situations, including after his Scrap, he does not use lethal force.
Ryuuhou egging him on, getting him more and more furious til he activated the tattoo’s kill mode? It’s an almost allegorical way of portraying an intrusive thought, (i.e. “I wish I could kill him!”, “I wish I could kill everyone!”, etc.) The tattoo is “the worst” of Koujaku, a stain he can’t wash away, a constant reminder of the blood on his hands. Koujaku normally composes himself, yet the tattoo makes him act on base instinct. But the base instinct has to be based *somewhere* in him, it wasn’t just a fleeting thought or “inserted” into him via Ryuuhou. Hence, my intrusive thought analogy.
So then where does that leave the Glitter scene? My answer? Koujaku is a deeply, deeply scarred enough character who would’ve subconsciously thought, “No one else can have Aoba, he’s mine.” YES, the sexual assault is Koujaku’s fault, even if exacerbated by the tattoo’s influence and even if he would not do it under normal circumstances. The tattoo brings out the worst in him, and it’s almost always Ryuuhou who ruins his composure, much like in the Glitter scene. Focus on Koujaku’s insistence on asking if Ryuuhou “touched” Aoba anywhere. It’s already an inappropriate question, especially when, throughout the Platinum Jail portion of the route, Koujaku appears to Aoba and the player to be maliciously shirking his responsibility as Aoba’s assistant in taking down Toue. Of course we know in hindsight he’s not, but… Is it actually?
I don’t speak Japanese, so if any of my oomfs or rbs wanna correct me, please do so, but I believe in the confession scene, the more accurate translation of Koujaku’s apology is actually the first one you mentioned; “It was incredibly wrong of me to attack you like that, but… I’m more upset that I *liked it*.” Which, in my eyes, is the FAR more fascinating and realistic answer. I don’t think it’s grimdark edgy to be pleasantly surprised at a porn game for having a character that does something supremely fucked up and actually have their conflict be about the dichotomy between their morals and how they physically felt.
People aren’t perfect, and the human brain is ESPECIALLY messed up. A lot of DMMD iconography is about a human brain for a reason: Each LI has something fucky going on. Noiz conflates compassion with the physical feeling of pain, Mink’s sense of self was so withered by grief that never healed that he stopped believing himself to be a living, breathing person, and Clear quite literally is in conflict with himself having human emotion but not a human body. Koujaku’s conflict, in turn, is about his messy relationship with his own desire. Koujaku’s route is filled with these contradictory feelings: He logically knew Ryuuhou wanted Koujaku to come back and confront him and he did so anyway out of pure anger at the man, he didn’t want the tattoo to “dirty” Aoba in re:connect, to not let the man he loves be entwined in his past, but he also yearned for Aoba to accept his past and see past the tattoo. The biggest contradiction is Koujaku, all those years ago, vowing to protect Aoba from harm, to be his hero, and despite that being vulnerable to physically and emotionally hurting Aoba due to his own self-doubt. The Glitter scene is that struggle at its climax, the worst possible offense and betrayal of Aoba’s trust. And it’s because Koujaku wanted more than anything to get rid of ANY trace of Ryuuhou on Aoba. He logically knows it’s wrong, much like anyone with intrusive thoughts knows it’s wrong to act on them, but the tattoo removes the inhibition. The tattoo ends up literally turning him into a slave of his own desire, to keep Aoba all for himself.
Okay I ended up ranting a lot but TLDR; I think it’s unfair to say people only see the Glitter scene as SA for edginess’ sake, I think there’s narrative value in acknowledging that “good” people can have “bad” thoughts
About: Part 2
DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR RELATIONSHIP. PATH TO HEALING: part 2
Despite all this tension and mistrust, the next scene is full of gentleness. Aoba is extremely embarrassed and worried that he vomited on Koujaku, staining his kimono. But despite having such an important goal in mind, and the distance he’s causing by not wanting to involve him, taking care of Aoba right now and carrying him back home is more important. Aoba is so worried about having stained his kimono and Koujaku brushes it off, not only that but also uses his sleeve to clean it up. A kimono that signifies his identity, that is reminiscent of his mother, of her nurturing, something so personal.
I feel that after seeing Koujaku leave, Aoba felt especially vulnerable, those feelings of helplessness and neglect, that jealousness, sharpened by his discomfort after the effect of the drugs. So now it’s not only about Koujaku’s care, but also the warmth and affection placed on him that makes him feel better.
The main reason for Aoba's distrust towards Koujaku happens when he discovers the amount of tattoos and scars he had running through his body. The person he shared unique and intimate things with, only for the two of them, was not only leaving him alone but also hiding something from him, and the tattoos only confirmed it. What could be so serious that Koujaku is hiding it from him? Like we said before, it being solely because of the yakuza is kind of unlikely because he’s friendly with Virus and Trip, and you can’t possibly compare them to the friendship he has with Koujaku. So the shock mostly comes from feeling like his trust and friendship aren’t reciprocated, that he isn’t anyone special to him, that Koujaku is pushing him away and doesn’t want him by his side, he feels betrayed, lonely, rejected. He put all his trust in him, his hero, but it looks like Koujaku doesn’t hold him in high enough regard to confide in him. And so his heart breaks.
If one doesn’t trust, the other can’t either. They’re equals, and one can’t be without the other. But now, in a way, Koujaku is leaving him behind, and it could also remind him of how he left when they were children, of his parents, it’s a devastating feeling. That’s why he dreams about his childhood, a return to his most comforting memories, in which there was no distance or mistrust, in which Koujaku never pushed him away, rather, he was always with him, searching for him.
Alright, this is completely unnecessary in my opinion. It’s something so obvious I’m still surprised to see people reading this the wrong way, so that’s why I decided to include it. It’s something so important and shocking that it’s a shame that it’s interpreted in such a wrong way by either extreme censorship (crazy being a dmmd fan) or simple bias, because it’s been something that happens the twelve years the game has been around that people talk about this scene as if this was something that Koujaku ever wanted to happen or had made this decision on his own. What’s funny is that this is the usual coming from people who don’t like him, but surprisingly enough people that do like him sometimes also agree and then you can’t excuse it with rage bait. I really don’t understand how this can keep happening because one of the main plots of the entire game that moves the characters to act is precisely the brainwashing and mental manipulation that Toue wants to force on people. Each character has some personal relationship with this and it’s so blatant that I didn’t think I would continue to see these kinds of conclusions to this day and age.
It’s raining, Aoba returns to Glitter and a little while later Koujaku arrives too, soaked from head to toe and with a grim face. Although Aoba isn’t sure who he is referring to, because he doesn’t know the danger he entails, we know perfectly well that he’s pissed off because he saw him talking to Ryuuhou. During the conversation Aoba notices he was looking at something behind him, all that happens here goes exactly as the tattoo artist wanted, it’s all part of his plan, of his manipulation. Like we said before, rain is representative of the dragon's influence.
Somehow, what Koujaku is feeling now is the same thing Aoba has been feeling when he saw him leave. Anger, jealousy, disappointment and betrayal. He has seen the person he loves talking to his worst nightmare personified, the person he was looking for with the intention of killing him. His emotions are already unstable, but seeing them together upsets him so much that he’s no longer in full use of his faculties, with the tattoo consuming him, only managing to get angrier and angrier until he throws Aoba to the bed. First thing he does is to bite him, because it’s like he’s marking him as his in some way, like territory. His tattoos take over his body, over his feelings, and externalizes them in the worst way.
He’s becoming more and more irrational. Before he had a serious face, but now he’s getting angrier and angrier. This scene isn’t supposed to be hot (unless you’re into noncon lmao), it’s a scene where they’re pushing their relationship to the edge of a cliff, to a point of no return, these are the consequences and they either act now or they’ll be broken forever. There’s no need to have the full rape package because the point has already been made. It would just be for the sake of making the trauma more painful just for the kink and it just doesn’t fit. Considering how fast the entire story develops, the whole “Aoba forgives Koujaku” arc in order to have a good ending, it would probably feel empty and weightless.
I get the feeling that since Koujaku can still talk here, unlike the bad ending, people see it as if he’s actively controlling his body and just letting his anger peek (at most, he’d be only partially controlling it with the influence of the tattoo, or he’d be seeing it in “third person”, kind of like how Aoba can remember a bit of his life when Sly was controlling their body, but it’s not him). It’s pretty obvious that he’s not listening to Aoba, not only he doesn’t stop until he uses his power, he doesn’t answer his questions about what the hell he was talking about either. He’s not being rational, he just keeps repeating the same thing over and over until he can’t talk anymore. (His tattoo doesn’t need to be mature to do tremendous damage to his loved ones, to be honest no wonder he wanted to kill himself after this lol).
In the confession scene he also mentions that he vaguely remembers touching Aoba in this scene, the translations are actually a bit confusing because some suggest that Koujaku basically says that he liked how it felt even though he felt sorry about it being non-consensual, and others have a more reasonable answer where he says something like “I kind of remember what happened and I could only wish it was different”. I honestly lean towards the second one, because the first translation, which I think is the most popular one, already had several mistakes or slightly confusing translations and this one would be no exception, the implications are different. Honestly, just one more reason why I wished he would just say that he remembered literally making out with him in Scrap because this part only helps people to put the blame directly on him as if he had ever wanted that in the first place.
I need people to understand that the berserk form, beast Koujaku, whatever you wanna call it, is the same to Koujaku as Sly is to Aoba. They are forces of destruction that desire death and violence, with some kind of supernatural focus, beast Koujaku based on pure instinct, and Sly in a more sadistic way, consciously doing harm. You can’t expect any morality from them, and especially not from a beast. When Sly is in control, Aoba still remembers things that happen and vice versa. Koujaku remembering parts of what happens isn’t new and it doesn’t mean he was in control, period. I don’t see people blaming Aoba for what Sly does, so why would he be blamed for this? Even Aoba himself straight up tells you it’s not the same person, it’s impossible to know the tattoo exists and still thinking that this is somehow voluntary.
I’ve also seen people say that for some reason Koujaku fans just ignore this scene, as if we wanted to ignore anything slightly problematic or hinting at this being part of Koujaku’s personality in some shape or form, like we can’t stand the “fact” that he has any hint of malice in him and we don’t acknowledge it because we’re in a bubble dream world and it couldn’t be a worse misreading of the entire character. I can’t believe that it came from someone who liked Koujaku because it feels so disrespectful to him, to his story and who he is, basically all we’ve talked about so far. One thing is to have hcs and the other is to treat it as the canon truth and disrespect others because they don’t share those hcs that are pretty much incompatible with the character. Besides, I’m sorry, what else should we be talking about? They talk like this could happen in any other situation, and no. It wouldn’t because Koujaku didn’t choose this. They truly believe that a character who doesn’t have malice for some reason is a character without flaws or imperfections, and if they like this character it must be because there’s something bad in him that makes him a grey character, so they can keep enjoying their edginess. Got the wrong character, Koujaku’s imperfections and “impurities” are far apart from that selfish facet they wanted to give him. His lack of communication and his self destructive careless attitude of carrying everything on his own, the way he behaves giving less importance to himself and his inability to break the cycle by not relying on someone else are what builds him. If anything, being more selfish is what he needs, to be honest. Bad things can happen even if the intentions are good, it's a good natured character with nuances and flaws, to put it simple. And the good thing about Koujaku and Aoba is just how versatile they are, you can almost go with anything in your fiction and you'll probably find details and nuances about their characters that you can include there so it still feels like them, while separating from the strictly canon and exploring your own ideas.
I've mentioned this before on my Twitter account, long time ago. I personally wish they’d left more time to develop the feelings after this part of Glitter because Aoba immediately leaves and gets drugged by Ryuuhou. Same story, everything in the game happens really fast. With that in mind I think it’s fair to not take it too much into account, like many other things, and just imagine what would happen and that’s it. Because it’s true that they talk about it a bit, but then move on to something else right away and there’s no processing of what happened, the scene doesn’t feel as heavy as it should, like “Well, that just happened”. It’s the ultimate act of betrayal for god’s sake.
Ren recognizing Beni’s wings’ flapping like there aren’t a hundred other bird allmates that do the same sound will never not be iconic, truly an old man yaoi moment.
#dmmd#sapph speaks#also I don’t like the notion that sly is a beast that cannot be expected to be good but that’s like. whole other rant
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played zzz for a bit and it's okay, i like the style (although it's hard not to think about ai) and i really like the setting but it's another game that requires you to play consistently if you want to pull for anything 😩
#i really like combat too#i think it's similar to hi3 but with better controls lmao#i like how dynamic it is due to jump-ins and dodging and parrying#but it's also clear that this is all the game really is about#just like with hsr main content and source of currency is end-game content#and i don't think i'll be able to handle another game like that#it requires too much time and effort and i already have genshin+hsr#but i find the story (at least what i know from the prologue lol) more interesting than hsr#tldr playing gacha games never ends well
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not enough discussion about the gavins' complicated relationship with feminine-coded/beauty products, i don't think.
#for klavier because it's not as direct it's about how we never see him actually wearing lipstick? even though apollo literally attends#a concert of his which is where you'd most expect him to wear makeup. but apparently he just doesnt. or at least not in public#klavier gavin#kristoph gavin#i feel like there are several ways you can read into it. the misogyny/toxic masculinity one is really obvious clearly with kristoph's#singling out of men specifically and klavier's (probably accidental?) condescending manner of calling women 'fraulein' plus his general#mildly patronising attitude towards many of the women in the game (also probably unintentional)#(i think he's trying to be charming and it's coming off wrong to some of them. like ema. and me.)#but i feel like there's also maybe an element of... inherent perfecfionism to it? like both of these products are conventionally beautifyin#products and kristoph while he is open to showing people he uses nail polish specifically chooses one that's clear and missable unless you#see him apply it. he also feels the need to justify his use of it and specifically spell it out as something he chooses to do rather than#needs to do even though duh. that should be obvious.#idk there's just something about his seeming need to take control of that narrative that i find interesting. his need to spin it into a#'there's nothing wrong with my nails but I had the foresight to see that even the smallest parts of my appearance should be kept immaculate#and it's a choice i'm making to refine an already adequate part of my personage /not/ to cover some unsightly defect.' the need to emphasis#that specifically is so. hm. and with klavier i could see it being a case of him liking makeup liking the pops of colour yet being unwillin#to admit to it because he's afraid that other people might see it as him being dissatisfied with his own appearance regardless of if he is#or isn't. or even just perceiving colourful makeup as being unseemly because it's so overt and unnatural.#like i can see this as them both viewing 'real' beauty to be that which is inherent to a person and seemingly effortless#thus somehow negating the beauty which one achieves through cosmetics or other external means.#and if you want to use external means to achieve beauty or neatness or whatever then your only valid options are those which blend into you#natural state. like clear nail polish. or really awful spray tan.#i feel like klavier's less confined by these ideas (if they hold merit at all) considering he actually owns coloured lipstick and he wears#jewellery (admittedly quite 'masculine' jewellery no gems or pearls or anything like that but jewellery nonetheless) but i think it just#makes it more interesting that he doesnt seem quite able to cross the line anyway. like it's that ingrained into his system.#anyway that's all i've got. you guys should tell me what you think too#annotations
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