#but is devsis really that based? we have to find out

[fount-of-knowledge]

they WILL fuse into one trust,,,, I am clinging onto the yellow eye and the fact that pv finds the tower familiar

im praying it will happen for you oomfie We need that selfcest W

[multiverselab]

@sea-fairy-cookie​:

There are... literal plotholes that are unaccounted for with this reveal. Also, the 8-30 stuff could easily be explained as an illusion given what the priestesses said in world-6.

It's not that it's surprising-- no, I think most people saw this twist coming from a mile away. But it doesn't square with some of the other things we know.

White Lily Cookie was already the ghostly illusion in the main story, and it’s very disingenuous to declare that literally everything we’re shown about White Lily Cookie throughout the game is a lie made by Dark Enchantress Cookie in the hopes that some curious yet powerful gang of Cookies follows the illusion to her prison. And that’s the main thing for me - Dark Enchantress Cookie, for all her sins, is very honest about what she does. She treats White Lily Cookie as an embarrassing teen phase more than an opponent to be disguised as, and there’s no reason Pure Vanilla Cookie would interact with her the way he does if none of those Academy memories really happened.

The main issues are the beginning cutscene and the absence of White Lily Cookie’s Soul Jam. There’s Matcha Cookie, but their options there are to either explain that later to show that it doesn’t actually contradict (like they did in the Tower of Sweet Chaos with DE’s original story), or take Matcha Cookie out of Kingdom canon, so either way it’s not as solid as what’s in-game.

My own explanation for the beginning cutscene is that it’s a dramatic retelling of what happened, especially since the rest of the beginning is. No one telling the story now would have known about WL becoming DE, and it’s mentioned plenty times that much of what’s known about the Dark Flour War is lost to time. Obviously, that’s not conclusive - but functionally, Devsis wouldn’t have wanted to exclude White Lily Cookie from that battle or else they’d raise the question on their twist early.

The Soul Jam’s also a big question - DE really want’s PV’s Soul Jam and everyone else’s, but no one mentions White Lily’s Soul Jam at all. Shouldn’t DE have it? If there’s a clue in the Korean translation, then sadly this fandom doesn’t have the people to find out. If it’s really lost, it likely separated from her in the Ultimate Dough, and will much later manifest a body for White Lily Cookie (so that she can be Gacha’d, lol). But see, that’s just a theory, and for all we know, DE might just be keeping it out of sight as a trump card.

Still, 8-30 was clearly already the twist the game wanted to do, the dramatic finale of the base content. There’s no reason for the White Lily Cookie ghost to identify herself in the prison otherwise, and denying that is really akin to burying one’s own head in the sand.

[mymarifae]

every day i think about how badly we were robbed when devsis made milk. we didn’t need a whole new character that knows dark choco and would want to go on a quest to find them. avocado’s been here the whole time!!!!!!!! it’s so infuriating to think of what the guild run story would have been like if she were included. like listen:

- she’s a skilled blacksmith and obviously knows how to use the weapons she makes! personally, i headcanon that on top of her skills as a blacksmith, she can also create temporary weapons out of magic - based on her ability in game and how quickly she makes each of those, and how they vanish when she’s done using them

- so all the scenes where milk’s disgusting ass swoops in with a magical shield and saves the day? could have EASILY been avocado doing the same thing. a shield is even one of the weapons she makes during her ability!!

- she and dark choco know each other. and unlike milk, who just met dark choco ONCE and never saw them again, avocado has a real connection with them. she’s likely the one who made dark choco’s (non-cursed) sword and perhaps their armor as well

- avocado would have an actual, solid reason for wanting to seek out dark choco. perhaps she helped outfit them for their big quest, and she hasn’t heard anything from them in a while...so now she’s worried, and wants to make sure nothing bad has happened to them.

- yam actually LIKES avocado. i don’t doubt he’d be grouchy initially, but since he’s been shown to genuinely enjoy her company, he’d warm up to her, and isn’t that infinitely more appealing than “white man has to keep an eye on the violent black man who is too dangerous to be left on his own”

- dinosour would LOVE her jokes and she’d probably adore him and his jellysaur

- she and mala are a perfect match!!!! they’re both butch lesbians, kinda goofy, very lovable, and they’re both the mama bear type

- avocado’s infectious, boisterous personality has the ability to really tie the whole guild run gang together into one ragtag family. she’s strong and capable. she’s kind. she’s funny. she’s a warm hug personified. 

- i also just thought of avocado telling mango tropical-based puns and jokes and making him laugh and i’m GOING to cry

anyway in conclusion. avocado should have been in guild run because i love her and i want it and devsisters needs to cater to me specifically

[differenttriumphdragon]

My Best Cookie Votes and Why: Round 1, Part 1

Mint Choco: While Orange is nice and all, she's ultimately a pretty flat character...and not just in the literal sense either. Minty, on the other hand, has an actual backstory, for starters, plus he's not an absolute dick to his closest friend like his opponent is. Plus, Mint's implied romance with Cocoa is infinitely more satisfying than the Citrus Love Triangle that they do absolutely nothing with. (As a side note, I find it hilarious that the very first matchup is literally just Orange Juice vs. Toothpaste.)

Sea Fairy: I like Tiger Lily and all, but literally her only purpose in canon seems to be to never get told what anything is, which is extremely frustrating on the part of the other Cookies and honestly hits way too close to home. That, and her major character arc with Princess is NEVER touched upon, while Sea Fairy presumably actually managed to reunite with Moonlight.

Pilot: This matchup was essentially Good, Loving (probably surrogate) Grandparent versus Awful, Neglectful, Irresponsible Grandparent who is confirmed to have attempted to alter her granddaughter's DNA in order to change her personality. So yeah.

Pink Choco: Neither of these Cookies really stand out at all. I am a fan of Pink's Magical Girl theming, though, and honestly I'd rather see her on stage than Carol. Also, Pink's design is leagues better.

Walnut: I'll admit, she's just more endearing to me for some reason. Her power is more interesting (and I actually understand how exactly it's supposed to work), and honestly the idea of a little detective with a teddy bear assistant is just adorable. I'm still mad about Angel, but that's not exactly HER fault, now is it?

Dark Choco: DC is a compelling fallen hero character who drives the entire story of Ovenbreak with his disappearance. White Choco Cookie is French, and that's about it. Also:

How can you not vote for him when he promises you such important lore? (Granted, he calls you out for being vain if you pick him. Hey, any lore is good lore, pal! Also, I have long hair I need to worry about too!)

Purple Yam: Honestly, the fact that he actually questions the bad writing sold me on voting for him. He's also a genuinely good character despite his only emotion being anger.

Firecracker: I absolutely love her 80s arcade aesthetic, even in spite of her being way too young to have ever been to an arcade in the 80s. She genuinely wants everyone to have fun, too. Also, Marshmallow got Flame Bat and Celestial Star locked up for her Trial.

Squid Ink: To be honest, this was one of the tougher choices. In the end, I decided that Inky needed more love after what they've been through, so they got the vote. Sorry, Fig.

Roguefort: Devsis has a really bad habit this list of putting far more interesting recent characters against old characters with nothing really to them. I mean, yeah, Ninja's mysterious and all, but you've done absolutely nothing with him since not even LINE, but the defunct game Ovenbreak 2! Other than maybe change his name from Ninjabread, anyway. Hell, Tiny Ghost is more interesting than him, but even then newer players wouldn't even know that, since the one throwaway line hinting at something more was in a Cookie Quest, which were removed from the game entirely over a year ago. Roguefort is more interesting by default.

Vampire: Can I be honest for a sec here? I hate Pancake with a passion. He deliberately makes himself seem cuter to get his way. Based on his interactions with Cream Puff, he's just as cruel as his big bro, if not as outwardly aggressive. No, Pancake relies on psychological manipulation to get everything he wants, and the worst part is IT'S FUCKING WORKING. As we speak, he's stealing a Magic Candy from Devil, from Kiwi...hell, he's even stealing it from Vampire! And now he's dominating the polls, adding insult to debilitating injury. He's not even fucking cute. Yeah, I said it.

Pistachio: Soda has absolutely no personality other than surfboard. Do I even need to say more?

Peppermint: DE could be SUCH a good villain if Devsis could decide what kind of villain she even is. Also if they remembered she was a major villain at all.

Lemon: I'll admit, I see a lot of myself in Lemon. Mostly in feeling artificial and having basically no friends, ever. I honestly think I'd be in a much worse place if I didn't have a brother. Whip could be great if they did anything with the White Swan/Black Swan dynamic he has with Skating Queen.

Pitaya: I've always had problems with the "You can only eat if you work for it" mentality. First of all, you need food to get energy to work, and if you aren't fed, then how are you going to work hard for food!? Second, what if you're disabled or otherwise can't work? Do you just starve to death, then? It just sounds awful!

Cream Puff: She's trying her best.

Kumiho: ...I honestly don't remember.

Pomegranate: A genuinely good villain who stole the show with her introduction. She could've easily been a Knight of Cerebus if the writers cared enough.

Cyborg: Blackberry abandoned a child relying on her protection to chase after a man who didn't remotely need her help. Also, she hates Devil. Also also, Cyborg is cool.

Hero: If you've read Hellfyre Speaks, you can probably guess why I personally picked Hero. I'm just surprised at the popular vote; it seemed to me like Herb was way more popular! But I guess not? Or at least not with early voters.

Werewolf: He's far more fleshed out than Gumball by far.

Devil: Have I ever actually explained why Devil is my favorite? Like, sure, he's an asshole, but he's the fun, ineffectual kind of asshole you actually wanna root for that you see in cartoons; like, in shows focused on a 'villain' character's scheming, usually with a naive idiot going along with it and a very-much-ignored voice of reason. Like in Ed, Edd, n' Eddy, or Evil Con Carne. Devil also has a flair for the dramatic, a knack for 'evil' schemes, and even the perfect foil to play off of! He'd be an absolute goldmine when it comes to the more lighthearted antics between acts, but Devsis is apparently content to just haul up gravel.

Knight: I'll be honest, I saw Alchemist and immediately clicked the other Cookie without looking who it was. But this isn't a post about her, so let's talk about Knight. First off, he'd be the perfect antagonist to Devil; Devil goes full ham when acting out an 'evil' plan, while Knight takes everything WAY too seriously. He adores Princess Cookie but doesn't know jack shit about her, which juxtaposed with Princess's nonchalant rebuttals of everything he claims about her makes it hilarious in a kind of pathetic way. (Ex. Knight claiming that Princess would probably never eat Jam again, then Princess replying she could totally go for some right now to the exact same question.) He's delusional in a way that you'd feel bad for him if he wasn't so over-the-top about it, and yet at the same time he does have skills that match up with his headcanon of how things work, just not the reputation.

Matcha: Seems like the person who'd play both sides for her amusement. I'd keep an eye on her.

[theliterarywolf]

SpeedAnon here. The only thing that will make CR in 2020 good or great; would be another Max Cookie event. Leaning towards Milk Cookie or Purple Yam Cookie as the Max Cookie, because we all know that story is wrapping up next year. Would make up for the robbing of Millennial Tree and Squid Ink Cookie's costume (somewhat). CR Fandom I have sat through the Whodunit BS and the Cookie of the Year shit; as a newbie, but this THIS will be your Sword of Damocles over your brainless heads.

Come on… The Murder Mystery Event wasn’t that bad. We got Roquefort Cookie out of it… 

It was just the fandom being 8 kinds of idiotic that made it so aggravating. 

Actually, I think a lot of the issues that happened with CR was because DevSis wanted to embrace the community more… Which, the past decade of fandom has shown us that fan communities are a double-edged sword with the self-damaging side of the blade being the size of Cloud Strife’s Buster Sword.

Because, again, the best CR event (at least that I have participated in during my two years of playing the game) was City of Wizards. 

Yeah, some people were whining about ‘Well, what do you mean I only get ONE of Moonlight Cookie’s costumes for free? Why are you guys trying to rip us off?!’ But the event itself was done perfectly: 

Special courses and backgrounds made just for the event (yeah, they’ve been put into the Champion Cup rotations now but they were originally event-exclusive), actively encouraging you to use and experiment with all the Cookies you had at your disposal, costumes and buffs for both the supporting cast Cookies (Wizard Cookie and Cinnamon Cookie), event-based currency being plentiful and not needing constant drop-rate patches, and best of all – YOU COULD PLAY THROUGH THE STORY BY YOURSELF. 

Yeah, I’m glad we got Cyborg Cookie and Ion Cookie Robot out of the AI Menace event, but I don’t like being handicapped or burdened by random other players. 

That’s why, when I made my Guild, I made it with the thought process of ‘okay, here’s a Guild so people can have the benefits of the Guild like daily drops and the Guild Shop but not feel awkward by level differences’.

I get that CR is a child-friendly IP. But a lot of the dumb shit that the fandom does is stemmed out of the teenager/adult portion of said fandom. 

Like… A child can look at a murder mystery and say ‘okay… that person looks suspicious’ while a good amount of the adults in the fandom are like ‘lol, Angel Cookie’s making a silly face; THEY’RE THE MURDERER!’

Considering how MicMac just dropped a video today that, once again, teased the whole ‘mystery of Dark Choco Cookie’s Hair Routine’, I feel like the current RPG/Fantasy arc may be hitting it’s climax around March (I won’t say February because CR really likes Valentine’s Day events) but we still have the other 4(?) Dragons to find out about. 

Then we’re getting a sequel to AI Menace (FUUUUU–) so Aloe Cookie can become playable, they’re probably going to rework Sands of Yogurca whenever Lilac becomes playable –

And, honestly, they don’t necessarily need to debut any new Cookies aside from bringing in Onion Cookie from the purgatory-Hell known as Cookie Wars so Adventurer Cookie and Blackberry Cookie can have their daughter back and either bringing in Energy Drink Cookie (so the portion of the community who won’t shut up about her can shut up) and maybe Kumiho Cookie’s mom.

Whew, I wrote a lot. 

TL;DR - While fandom interaction and emphasizing team play is good, too much of it can turn things into a clusterfuck. Let’s hope that 2020 sees DevSis leaning back towards more story-focused events that can be experienced without anchoring them to co-op.