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I know you're a big x-men fan (possibly an understatement?), so do you mind me asking if you have any thoughts on the upcoming Jean Grey movie? I don't know enough about her in the comics to really know what to expect (though I do very much like Sophie Turner)
So, with the caveat that I actually did not know this movie was being made until you sent this ask and I cannot find even a teaser trailer for it (I strongly suspected that this was bullshit for a second, until I found some articles), here are Some Thoughts.
First off, Apocalypse was actually my favorite X-Men movie in a very long time--I liked First Class, and the very first Singer X-Men has some nostalgia value, but Apocalypse actually felt like a damn team movie, which was a thrilling change of pace. That being said, every time they announce a new X-Men movie I live a few hours in existential despair about adaptations of my all-time favorite comics characters, and I usually set aside a few hours to have a crisis before I actually go see the thing, and a few more to watch X-Men Evolution afterward. I was actually so frustrated I cried when they announced Logan. I still went to see it! I did! But I spent a couple days fuming about how much damage the movies have done to my love for Wolverine, first.
That being said.
Things I am Tentatively Excited About
Clearly they have already figured out that Dark Phoenix needs to be the Whole Entire Plot. None of this âAlso letâs talk about the Cureâ nonsense. Donât half-ass two huge plotlines, whole ass one huge plotline.
Apparently theyâre taking extra time in post to do the effects, so hopefully itâll be VISUALLY dazzling, regardless.
I LOVED Sophie Turner as Jean Grey in Apocalypse and Iâm so, so glad theyâre going to keep her going as the Star Of The Show. She did a great balance of âIâm going to do what needs to be done because Iâm the one who can do itâ and âoh BOY am I ever screamingly terrified of my powersâ, which is really what I like to see in any character at all, but especially Jean Grey. Thereâs a fine line to walk between âcharacter with legitimate fears about what embracing their powers could turn them intoâ and âGirl who is Afraid Of Herself and needs to be Encouragedâ, and I think Ms Turner did an amazing job walking that line.
Speaking of being afraid of oneâs powers, I actually also loved Scott in Apocalypse, he had a real personality and thatâs depressingly rare in Scott Summers. Please donât be mean to him, heâs a great character, just because heâs not a delinquent doesnât mean heâs this featureless Fun Ruiner. I thought his dynamic with Jean had a lot of promise and Iâm hopeful that they get some mileage out of that.
I think Hugh Jackman has gone into witness protection from the X-Men franchise, so probably no Logan/Jean/Scott love triangle, which--thank you God and also Jesus, Iâm Over that love triangle and I have been since I was eight.
I donât know if theyâre planning to have Storm, Kurt, or Jubilee in the movie, but I also loved all of them and would really be thrilled to see them. I have higher hopes about Storm than the others.
All I want out of this is a good Scott/Jean dynamic, everything else is second fiddle and lower. Please, after all these fucking X-Men movies, give me a good Scott/Jean dynamic.
Things I am Already Dreading
Hoo boy, folks, as you may have deduced from my above comment about Jean Grey, the plot of âIâm afraid of my powersâ can get into some distasteful areas preeeeeeeetty quick. If theyâre determined to go the route of âJean has these abilities within her purview unassisted, but sheâs unable to control themâ theyâre going to be getting into territory that could go phenomenally well or astoundingly badly.
As mentioned above, if this is straight up and down issue of Jean having these powers as a natural part of her skill set, thatâs fine, but please God if youâre doing that and you still want to delve into the fact that, hey, yeah, Jean Grey has some real issues, just donât be a dick about it. Iâm not even asking for a sensitive take on PTSD and the idea of being traumatized by your own brain in the most literal sense, Iâm just asking for not being an ass.
I just want a movie with some fucking aliens. They donât seem to have any fucking aliens. The Phoenix Force is a fucking alien space thing. Give me some fucking space shit, it has been so many movies and yet I have no space shit.
If this is a movie about how Charles Xavier is a bad person and/or an idiot, Iâm going to have a stroke. Listen. He allowed a child to live her fucking life by closing off powers she was wildly unprepared to handle, and helped her adjust bit by bit. That doesnât make him a fucking monster and I am deeply over the take that Xavier is a hypocrite, a fool, and somehow the bad guy. Just because Magnetoâs philosophy isnât strictly speaking wrong does not make Magneto right, and it does not make Xavier stupid for trying for a better outcome. Believing that life is valuable is never the wrong call--which, incidentally, is a philosophy I learned from the fucking X-Men.
Things About Which I am Undecided
Theyâre planning to have Magneto in it which...look, yâall, I love Ian McKellan with a love that is true and pure, but having Mags in Last Stand was a questionable decision at best, tied into the frankly Bad decision to do the Cure plot as well as Dark Phoenix. I enjoy Fassbenderâs Magneto and like his dynamic with Xavier very much, and would normally be pleased to see them be Tense at each other some more. However. Last Stand has made me permanently skeptical of having Magneto in a Dark Phoenix narrative.
Like I said, they donât have the Shiâar or any space shit at all, as far as I can tell, which.  ¯\_(ă)_/ÂŻÂ Iâll be curious to see how they do the plot without that component, because, again, Last Stand went poorly.
The cast, particularly Sophie Turner, say that this film is âmore emotionally-laden and groundedâ and oh my God guys, that could go so well or it could be a train wreck. You know what else was supposed to be emotionally laden? Civil War. I think we are all learning about my opinions on that subject.
Itâs gonna have Mystique in it, which--listen. I understand that sheâs a good obvious parallel to Xavier, in that her powers are physically obvious and his are not, et cetera et cetera, but I never reeeeeeally cared that much about Mystique prior to First Class and I canât say that Days of Future Past (FUCK DoFP) or Apocalypse really kept up my interest. So. Like. I care a lot more about any of the other options for a focus character. Â
I want some good Xavier and Magneto interactions, if Magnetoâs going to be there anyway. I do NOT want this to be another movie about Xavier and Magnetoâs relationship delicately supported by another character undergoing a much more interesting plot.
Things You Can Expect Regardless of Actual Film Quality
Iâm gonna write some posts. Itâs inevitable. They will either be rhapsodies about my love for the film or wrathful breakdowns of all my complaints.
Iâll probably write some fic. Iâm still really happy with limitations of wax, which takes place after Apocalypse, and I have that long-ass post-canon Evo-verse fic in the works still (pushing 60 pages). I like talking about the X-Men.
If Kitty Pryde and Piotr Rasputin are in this movie for 0.0001 seconds, I regret to inform you that you will all be hearing A Great Deal about them. Â
I will continue to be Not Interested in Charles Xavier/Erik Lensherr.
So, uh...those are my thoughts. Â
I love the Dark Phoenix arc, I think I should say that as a closer. On a wider level, wildly overpowered characters are really interesting to me, largely because everyoneâs terrified of writing them and therefore most versions feel very unique. On a more specific level, I think the comic concept of the Phoenix Force becoming addicted to life, addicted to the experience of being alive, and shattering star systems just to see what the sparks of the planets taste like as they fade out--I think thatâs a gorgeous story. A tragedy, to be sure, the Trojan War against one woman, with casualties spent as carelessly as sand, but a gorgeous tragedy. If they do a good job with Jean, Iâm sure Iâll be just as game for it.
Yâall Iâm gonna write a fic after this movie called âterahelen (serious inroads on the welfare of the galaxy)â and itâs going to be the most upsetting tragic shit about Scott and Jean that I can possibly pump out.
#dark phoenix#jean grey#xmen#scott summers#oh god y'all i'm nervous about this movie#i'm nervous about every xmen movie these days#i mean of late i'm just Nervous because my anxiety's been out of control but especially about xmen movies#god and new mutants? i'm REALLY not sure how i feel about that shit#on the one hand: if you were going to make a horror movie out of the xmen#(although why WOULD you--that's a separate post but WHY WOULD YOU that's not what superheros are FOR)#but if you were GONNA then ilyana rasputin is unarguably the right call#but also...y'all...can't we be done with the trope of the Evil Insane Asylum? aren't we done? can't we put that one to bed?#also i do not LIKE horror movies and will have to break my habit of seeing xmen movies in the theater because no thank you#a netflix xmen series is what i really want if i'm being honest#please marvel you own the rights again that's what i want#there's a post floating around somewhere about this#but so yeah IN SUMMARY my thoughts about dark phoenix are: I AM NERVOUS ABOUT DARK PHOENIX#idiot teenagers with a queue#karatam#asked and answered
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