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#but i feel like this is mostly an issue with canon ships where percabeth is the highest bar and everything else is automatically below that
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I absolutely hate these kinds of posts so I thought I'd do it to see first hand how many people actually like it and care about other people's opinions on their ships so...
my arbitrary ratings of non canon pjoverse relationships and why I think they would never work (or would) (scroll down for canon)
perachel: 3/10 nothing but platonic vibes, their brief stint felt more like an experiment than genuine romantic feelings or attraction; they both deserved better
percico: 1/10 a reiteration of an earlier post: their relationship would get bogged down by unshared feelings and grief, plus nico's crush was just a crush, and percy never had feelings in the first place
perlypso: 0/10 their whole interaction was percy being half dead and calypso being manipulated, not to mention she cursed him
pereyna: 2/10 any het relationship with reyna feels icky to me, she just seems so queer coded (which makes sense cause she literally joined an ace club), and percy was so focused on annabeth when they first met it just doesn't seem fair to either of them
pipercy: 4/10 this is a FRIENDSHIP I wanna see them figuring out they're bi together so much platonic potential
jercy: 7/10 honestly if I had to put these two with anyone else, I would choose this ship solely for the tension in mark of athena and that an alternate ship name is person
percypollo: 0/10 icky, pedophilic, and honestly kinda homophobic. percy would never enter a relationship with a god anyway
percy/literally any god: 0/10 see percypollo
lukercy: -1/10 imo there is no way to write this in a way that's not abusive, predatory, and just bad in general. i will not take the "enemies to lovers" storyline for this one either because there are some things that just aren't redeemable, and i consider luke's actions irredeemable. plus both their histories with annabeth make this ship very, very icky
pipabeth: 9/10 favorite non canon pairing, I can totally see a threesome with Percy, these two have such a great dynamic, only minus a point because I love percabeth too much
lukabeth: 0/10 sexist, icky, just all around a red flag
jasabeth: 2/10 nothing but platonic vibes
reynabeth: 4/10 they would be so powerful together, but feelings and emotional skills would be their undoing
jeyna: 0/10 see pereyna
leyna: 2/10 sibling vibes and see pereyna
theyna: 8/10 see reynabeth, but also I would love to see their similarities come to a head when they actually have to confront their feelings
apollo/reyna: 0/10 this is a thing?? ew???? reyna has such a huge issue with authority and the gods in general, it would never work, and see pereyna and percypollo
pipeyna: 7/10 would be good, but I need more info, though I think it would bring piper's jealousies to a nice full circle, especially if it was used in a way that helps piper figure out her sexuality
liper: 3/10 sibling vibes, I do not like
jiper: 5/10 that's right y'all, this isn't canon anymore! cute while it lasted, but they were completely made up and forced together by hera. that does not make a good, trusting relationship where one party is missing crucial details and the other remembers things that didn't happen, honestly i would have much rather they just ended it in lost hero when they realized hera was manipulating them
thaluke: 3/10 so much complicated history, I see them as ross and rachel from friends only worse
valgrace: 6/10 platonic mostly, but I can see it turning into something; I think they could definitely be good for each other; would love to see some healing centered stuff for them
valdangelo: 0/10 they barely interact, and their personalities are not the cute "opposites attract" it is straight up "we are both intensely traumatized, but in different, incredibly clashing ways"
haleo: 4/10 I can see it, but with sammy, it's just too complicated
fraleo: 5/10 I like the tension, but ultimately their personalities would clash too much
frazeleo: 10/10 this might be the only non canon ship I really wish was canon. separate, they are boring and clash with each other so much, but I think having the three of them together would provide a buffer when necessary while also keeping things fun and interesting
jasico: 3/10 very much a sibling relationship, seems to me like they were just shoved together because they were there
tratie: 10/10 floors me that they aren't canon
sally/poseidon: 2/10 sure it would work but she is an independent woman who wants less a man and more someone to love her and be there for her that isn't her son
ruegard: 8/10 would 100% ship it if i didn't love beckengard so much, plus i love the patrochilles parallels here
canon ships in order from least favorite to favorite:
zeus/hera: -10/10 sucks ass, their relationship is built on mistrust and a forced marriage, hera is quite literally shackled while zeus does whatever the hell he feels like while hera takes her anger out on anyone but him
god's/any of their affairs: 0/10 there's a reason none of them lasted
piper/shel: 4/10 another reiteration: ig it could be something, but it was literally a few paragraphs, and we know piper is experimenting with her sexuality, so it could be anything, not just a permanent romantic ship
caleo: 4/10 calypso needs some time to figure herself out and not be chained to a person or place; maybe they can try again after they both have some more life experience
frazel: 6/10 cute, but they're still pretty young, even by pjo standards, and compared to the other canon ships they're kinda dull imo, but i do love the awkwardness
beckengard: 9/10 absolutely love it, wartime romance, tension, dying for each other, trying for elysium for each other, only minus a point because one of them was a spy
sally/paul: 9/10 i love it, i'm so glad sally finally found a decent man, only minus a point because...adults
gruniper: 9/10 very cute, would be 10/10 but the start of their relationship felt kinda wonky to me like rick just wanted to pair grover with someone
solangelo: 10/10 adorable, checks all my boxes - opposites attract, healing from trauma, one extrovert one introvert, there is absolutely no downside
percabeth: 11/10 the OGs, the ship i use as a standard for all of my other ships no matter the fandom, still my absolute favorite ship, there was not a single bad track, they are so good for each other
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headcombatmedic · 3 years
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jasiper was an elite ship y’all just pit everything against percabeth in an attempt to reinforce them as superior because they’re considered the golden standard, and it’s sad because no matter how great any other relationship in the series might be, it’ll constantly be nitpicked just because it’s not percabeth.
#this doesnt include solangelo for obvious reasons or any other mainstream wlw or mlm ship because those get hyped all on their own#whether theyre good or not (which is objective to begin with)#but i feel like this is mostly an issue with canon ships where percabeth is the highest bar and everything else is automatically below that#which i get it#like yall got pjo and percabeth was the long awaited endgame of five fucking books#so most readers already had history and an emotional attachment with them#but then people brought that into hoo and it became. so bad.#jasiper was never valid because xyz and percy was way better than jason and how dare piper say that percy was just alright#and omg annabeth and the knife scene with octavian and tartarus and college in new rome together and how can anything ever top that ?!?1/!?!#and every time there was another canon ship like jasiper or frazel or caleo (which are pretty great ships unto themselves)#theyre rushed or not realistic enough or bland or not given enough development and most of those criticisms are tied to percabeth#because percabeth was given all of those things and it leads back to percabeth just being 'better'#tiring honestly. of course none of the hoo ships were as 'good' according to those outlines#because none of them had a five book series dedicated to individually fleshing out and developing each relationship#and a lot of them happened over the span of one book or two while there was a bigger plot picture going on at the same time#its exhausting. honestly the reason i dont like percabeth so much. because it all becomes a contest where everything else is a runner up#pjo#percy jackson and the olympians#hoo#heroes of olympus#toa#trials of apollo#jason grace#percy jackson#piper mclean#annabeth chase#jasiper#jasper#percabeth#frazel
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