#but he knows why he doesn't think lwj got bored of him or dislikes him or wants to kick him out

[chaos0pikachu]

please talk about the bl actors you find absolute shit I love controversial opinions

LMAO puta out here tryin to get me cancelled, rejected, cast out, exiled

sure why not, putting this under a cut b/c no one likes seeing bad opinions on ppl they like so enter at your own risk etc etc:

tbh there's not a ton of them b/c I haven't watched as many shows as other folks. Like, watching shows is difficult tbh especially Thai ones which are like an hour long each episode and have a lot of filler I just can't find it in my soul to do it okay. BUT out of the shows I have watched I've been left pretty unimpressed by:

Ohm from Until We Meet Again: I know he's really well liked, but I'm sorry my dude can't act. Flat. I probably have the most firm opinion on him and I just find myself so thoroughly unimpressed. I think what doesn't help is that Fluke is a good actor.

And I don't just mean the crying, like Fluke, Gun, and First are all good criers right? It's a fandom joke at this point but like, that ability isn't what makes them good actors. You can see their experience on screen, in how they embody the characters they play, the subtle changes in their physicality, how they line read, the way they interact with their costars.

I've said before but I find Pharm to be a pretty boring character, but Fluke gives him enough charm on screen that I don't outright dislike him. Meanwhile Dean is just boring. He's BORING. And Ohm doesn't have the skills to make him not boring. Stoic characters are actually really difficult to play, I actually really liked the performance of Wang Yibo in The Untamed b/c without the use of animation LWJ is a difficult character to play b/c he's so internal and stoic outwardly. But Yibo gives him some humanity with his line reads and his eyes (the lantern scene comes to mind) and I don't even LIKE that show.

Ohm just doesn't have the skills to make the standard stoic romantic hero work, he's to flat, he relies to much on his innate physicality to carry the performance. All that said I haven't watched one of his recent shows so maybe he got better idk!

Bright from 2Gether: Idk if this is popular or not and I didn't even like 2Gether but talk about another dude who can't act woof. Bright reminds me of the mixed actors Netflix always casts in their teen romcom sequels that are hotter than the basic white dude love interest but never win b/c why would they? Anyways he can't act, I liked the other dude Win way more. He had great comedic timing and even when Bright was required to act like happy or joyful it came off as ~Acting~

Off from Theory of Love/Not Me: So lemme say that I don't think Off is a bad actor not like Bright and Ohm flat lmao I just think Gun out acts him at like every corner. I think Off lacks charisma but that's so subjective so I don't talk about it much b/c I know ppl love him/OffGun but like, I don't see it much. Idk OffGun is nice, they're nice! But they're just nice. They're chemistry doesn't wow me or blow me away or anything there's something I find really restrained about them? Like they've been working together for so long they feel more like really good friends than that passionate I want and love you type romance. I will say tho I think Off picks some good projects so good for him

Earth/Mix: FML this one's gonna get me okay so like I don't think either Earth or Mix are bad actors but I think they're a bit idk overhyped? I found 1000 Stars mind numbingly boring - except for Mix's char I loved the char but found the performance a bit lackluster - and they're the least interesting part of Moonlight Chicken for me. They remind me of OffGun where they're such good friends and they've only really worked with each other mainly (I know Earth's worked with other screen partners) that I think it's developed some bad acting habits and they're to comfortable. They don't give me that passionate I want and love you type romance. Which for 1000 Stars, totally fine it wasn't that type of show but I really felt that missing bit in Moonlight Chicken.

Mix was trying hard to give bedroom eyes (and I do think he succeeded!) but tbh I didn't feel the sexual tension between them, I didn't feel the "this is a bad idea but I want you to much to care" vibe. I honestly think Earth was a miscast anyway b/c the char is supposed to be almost 40 and he's fucking 28 irl it's as unbelievable as Jennifer Lawrence at 20-something playing a 40-something in American Hustle.

Earth also plays mostly stoic characters and I think they often come off as boring. I think he's actually pretty funny? His comedic timing is pretty good but he doesn't get to play fun characters! He doesn't have enough experience to give weight to these old characters they keep casting him as.

I think you can really see the difference in the scenes with First and Mix actually. Mix was better but you could see First was leading those scenes. What's truly frustrating is I think Mix could grow as an actor if he wasn't always paired up with Earth. One of the reasons I think First, Gun, and Fluke are so good is b/c of their experience. They act against other people, they take out there projects at times, being locked in a "pairing/ship" just hurts an actors development imo it's limiting and I selfishly hate it

It also doesn't help that Thai BL usually only has shallow secondary relationships between the main chars and supporting characters. Like, one of my gripes with 1000 Stars is all the supporting cast are severely under developed to the point they really are just avatars for "kind village people" they're more of an ideal than actual characters yes even the doctor who was just the standard "best friend who helps the mains hook up".

not to harp on Kinnporsche but one of the best things about the show is the time it takes to make characters interact with other chars outside of their romances. Pete's friendships with Arm, Tankhun, and Pol feel genuine. The mean girls club of Big and Ken feels real (you know those coworkers, you've HAD those coworkers), Porsche and Chay's relationship feels REAL and sincere and valued, Porsche's relationship with Tankhun is funny yes, but contrasted with how Tankhun acts around Kinn and Korn. Kim's isolation adds to his storyline. Kinn's relationship with his brothers is paralleled with Porsche and Chay's. Vegas relationship with Kinn, Gun, Porsche, Pete even Tawan are all so VASTLY different it's amazing to see.

What also helps is seeing what actors bring out what. Like, Bible is a good example, the energy he has with Apo is different than what he had with Build. Like obviously Vegas "love" for Porsche was fake while it was real for Pete but making that distinction clear in your performance matters. And isn't as easy as folks would think.

ok I'm beat that's all for now folks lol

[llycaons]

anyway...more postcanon wwx confident in his importance in lwj’s life and eager  to take his place by his side, less “I’ll stay here as long as I’m allowed” or “I’m not worthy of him!!!” or “he’ll get bored of me!!” or “you can’t keep being nice to me, I’ll get used to it” or “he’s too busy/important to worry about the likes of me” im so tired of all this fanon when canon is just better

[plan-d-to-i]

I just got hate bc I don't like jyl. Apparently, it's misogyny (even tho I like wq and mianmian) bc ''hating female characters is trendy'' and ''every fandom always has this thing where everyone has to hate the female characters'' and when I tried to explain that no, actually, I just don't like useless characters, male or female, they called me a liar bc I don't hate lxc? like, lxc was kinda a himbo but he was super talented???

It's not the first time this happen, but the last time it was a yzy stan so I thought it was just crazy talk, but alas, it seems that we can't dislike any characters as long as they're females ┐(￣ヘ￣)┌ Then one of their friends jumped in with a super long rant about how their family situation was so similar and how they were the jyl in the situation and they lost one of their sisters bc of it so they totally relate to her and can't help but be soft on her bc they're sure she felt the same things they did, and I was like...yk they're fictional, right?

Just. Let me dislike the super boring and so-useless-she-ends-up-being-harmful character in peace, ffs

"Then one of their friends jumped in with a super long rant about how their family situation was so similar and how they were the jyl in the situation" - this would've been an instant block moment for me.

People in this fandom constantly try to argue with their personal life and trauma dump on strangers like they're chatting about the weather... MXTX doesn't know them, or their sister, or their mother, or their bother, or their father, or their uncle, or their dog, or their imaginary friend. So why the hell are they featuring in a discussion about the fictional characters she created!?

I also don't see the YanLi/LXC comparison. I've always seen her and jc as the REALLY second rate Wen Ning/Wen Qing respectively. People act like LXC is an asshole for not immediately turning on JGY but it's natural he would have reservations when he had seen and heard him slandered and maligned during their entire acquaintance based on the circumstances of his birth. They're like : omg he was so elitist 🤪, when his treatment of JGY, the son of a prostitute who ppl didn't even want to drink tea from, is the opposite. The point is in spite of his reservations LXC still listens to the word of the most wanted man in the cultivation world and his enamored little brother!- just saying this is how things stand from LXC's pov, naturally in my pov LWJ and WWX have done nothing wrong ever <3. He's ready to twist JGY's arm to be allowed in the secret room. He stashes WWX in the Hanshi, and has him treated in the Cloud Recesses. He shows WWX the forbidden room in the library!!!! so they can investigate! People get mad he didn't straight up believe LWJ but it's not LWJ he doubts:

He looked at Wei WuXian, “You trust Young Master Wei, while I trust Jin GuangYao. The fact that Brother’s head is in his hands, neither of us have seen it with our own eyes. We only believe in what another person says based on how much we know about them.” (Chapter 63)

I think there are so many sweet LXC moments too, where it's clear he pays attention to LWJ, the things that he likes and that interest him. How he's happy for Wangji when he brings MXY to the Cloud Recesses and doesn't question him or try to control him. How he guides him to keep his rabbits even though pets are not allowed. How he tried to find a dizi for LWJ when he's drunk and upset. How he doesn't taste the Lotus seeds LWJ brought back from Yunmeng but is just happy his little bother is happy. Speaking of the lotus seed pods LWJ mentioned them once and :

Lan XiChen, “I heard you mention lotus seed pods yesterday. Uncle happened to have them be brought up the mountain today. Do you want some?”

Lan WangJi, outside the window, “I have, already.”

LXC may not be a manipulative mastermind like JGY and NHS [fondly] but he's still a talented, powerful cultivator. LWJ enjoys a great degree of independence in the Clan yet he trusts LXC and knows he can go to him with his concerns. It doesn't ever feel like WWX has that space with YanLi for honest communication when he's expected to always be smiling...

YanLi is obviously not evil but she's boring and mediocre and no amount of internet strangers projecting on her will make her or her soup more interesting to me.

[k1201a]

I usually like your takes on things, how chill you actually are and like you replied to that anon, how I at least don't remember you calling people names over all these fandom "issues". Now, the only thing that bothers me is how I feel your talking about the wrong people when saying things like 'their r*pe fantasy' and so about this issue in particular and I also feel that even if someone explain to you why you got the wrong people, you won't at least give them the benefit of the doubt?

People who really is into dark tops, into dom/sub and all that... believe me, they leave mdzs alone and are better into other things. They're the first one who know about what they like. So of course they don't think lwj is the darkest, toppest top or w/e, lol. They still can like wangxian but I personally never seen them talking about them as the darkest couple in danmei. What's more, they actually recognizes that's wwx the one into things while lwj more into just favoring him? Haha.

The people who usually is this eager to talk about lwj "noncon-ing" wwx and morals in sex are the ones that are part of the anti movement. The ones that hate mxtx for being a "dirty fujoshi". The cql onlies who celebrate censorship and say cql did a better job with the characters and made their love story ~more beautiful~ and talk about kinky this and fetishization that in a negative way. The ones that think fiction shouldn't even portray anything sexual between same sex characters apparently.

And no, it's not that they secretly have a r*pe fantasy (while it happens in different areas, it's not true that every time people claim to dislike something is because they actually like it deep down)... in any case they're secretly, and not that secretly, homophobic.

I don't doubt that there are, like in every fandom, people who lacks reading comprehension and people who projects a lot on character. And as a result of this combination you get people who will write some fic about dark lwj... but usually the ones who are all the time babbling about how he kissed wwx without his consent and so are the ones who see it in a negative way, the antis I mentioned or even people who think "you can like dark but critically!".

Meanwhile, the people who genuinely ha a r*pe fantasy whether irl or in fiction, and prefer more intense romance and dark tops and cnc are chilling in other fandom from works that gives them exactly that (like, just for instance, most people I know who likes that and like mxtx, if they have to joke about a top being too intense with his feelings is about lbh and not lwj... just as I saw people who likes svsss better complain about how people are always comparing the 3 books and showing him in a bad light because most people luckily recognizes lwj is the most sensible of all them and the one who doesn't have a dark side or something)

I'm not really following, you mean anon was a mxtx hater? if they were, they shouldn't be upset by what I said. if they hate lwj, and thinks he's a dark sadist rapist, and he's disgusting, why were they upset I called dark lwj boring? if you mean anon was not into rape fantasy, then they shouldn't be upset I called rape fantasy boring.