#but generally it's more like 'the melody on the 3rd line of the prechorus feels distinctly dallon weekes' and then it is him
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sprolden · 2 years ago
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panic at the discos three viciously different songwriting formations have accidentally created this really interesting thing in their discography where if youre familiar enough w the band you can easily tell who wrote which songs within the first 30 seconds
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flakandforay · 7 years ago
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Converse High Analysis
this is the analysis for their 3rd mini album, 화양연화 pt. 1, 7th track - Converse High
i will be analysing several components - music, lyrics and choreography
disclaimer: this is just my personal opinion, feel free to disagree. do let me know your thoughts in my ask box
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overall: this fun youthful track is produced by namjoon in which he wanted to put in his mixtape initially but instead decided to put inside this album instead to become a group song. not to mention, he even purposely named it ‘converse high’ in which he mentioned in an interview before that his ideal girl in 2015 was one who owned a pair of red high tops converse sneakers which led to the name of the song. 
music: it starts off straight away with the use of cymbals inside, specifically the hi-hats and the use of electrical guitar chords that sound more reggae and hippie in the beginning. namjoon also comes in with an adlib of ‘yeah’ as if to feel the groove of the song and to set the mood. actually throughout the first few seconds of the song, namjoon is using it to his advantage to ride the groove etc and only till 0:10 does he begin the song, but he starts it off softly so as to prepare for the impending drop. not to mention that one could hear jungkook doubling inside towards the end of namjoon’s lyrics and that the beat now includes claps inside in time with the hi-hats. then namjoon wraps up the intro with ‘converse high’, intentionally slowing down so that the drop would have more impact as listeners would listen out to it more.
so jungkook comes in at 0:19 with that sweet voice of his to which at the beginning one could hear this ‘shimmering synth’ as now the percussion and guitar chords are dimmed down to amplify jungkook’s vocals. the key part of this song is ‘woah woah woah’ at 0:28 in which it is constantly repeated throughout this song, giving it its own groove.
jimin then comes in at 0:29 at the second part of the chorus and again at 0:37 with the ‘woah woah woah’. one could notice that the chorus is actually more choppy - in a way, several breaths are being taken to sing the chorus as they time their singing with the beat and also to sustain the ‘woah woah woah’. to be honest, almost all of the vocal line members’ make it obvious that they are taking breaths especially seokjin however jungkook is the one that makes it less obvious that he does so.
and the after this chorus, there is this short piece of drum melody that signals the start of the verses - actually namjoon’s rap and he’s taking it more chill together with the claps of the beat ( the hi-hats and guitar chords are already dimmed down in this verse ). what’s interesting is that at 0:49 with his lyrics ‘f u’, it adds on to his style of rapping here, clearly showing he could manipulate the beat of the song. yet, he repeats the ‘f u’ several times as he makes a statement.
and then at 0:59, namjoon’s part abruptly ends but is quickly overcome with hoseok’s part as he takes the next verse, as the beat accelerates and picks up speed. the claps actually occur every crotchet and it appears to have ‘speed up’ the song because of it occurring every beat but again, i feel that this is just an ‘audio illusion’, the speed didn’t change, it just sounds faster because of how many more beats there are in a bar. hoseok, too, also knows how to play along, easily integrating his laughter at 1:16 as part of the song.
then at 1:18 with that shimmering synth, taehyung takes over the prechorus and instead of claps, what one could hear are the snaps, the snapping of the fingers to be precise but of course synthesized to make it sound more electronic. in this prechorus, one could hear the adlibs of jungkook and jimin inside as they make up for the loss of percussion inside and guitar chords. and at 1:25, that nice vocal riff by jimin and possibly jungkook as it moves on to the second part of the prechorus which is done by jimin at 1:28. then there is that one synth that signals jimin’s entrance. only during this part did the hi-hats actually come back to play together with that descending synth. again there are some adlibs being done here but subtly done as it is only the middle of the song and not towards the end.
and one could hear yoongi’s ‘ack’ at 1:38 before it makes way for the chorus to start at 1:39 with jungkook and to be honest, there is the percussion that’s in time with the words that adds on to the ‘choppy’ feeling that one could hear. seokjin takes over at the chorus at 1:48 to wrap it up with the drum melody at 1:57 to signal the repeated part of the chorus which actually has a lot of jungkook’s adlibs inside, though very subtle, sounding more like riffs. 
at 2:07 it’s yoongi’s part coming through and for some reason, the song sounds as if it picked up speed again because the claps are back again but in quarters, constantly keeping yoongi’s rap in check. not to mention the use of hi-hats are back in again. yoongi’s small adlib of ‘ah yeah’ at 2:14 as well just to fill in the small gap in between. i like how his voice kinda got dragged down at 2:18 as he said ‘numbers’, something called like text painting where his voice goes down in time with the beat also going down - descending for that matter. but that brief pause ends when he comes back in full speed at 2:19 but he seems to be squeezing more words in a bar in this second part of his rap. and he even dragged his last word to tie in to the prechorus at 2:27 with jungkook.
again, nothing much has changed in the prechorus except that jungkook and seokjin are the ones singing this time round. one could hear yoongi’s adlib again at 2:47 before the beat drops for the final time.
one could tell that this is the last chorus with the number of adlibs being done in this chorus specifically by jungkook such as in 2:49 and then at 2:58 where taehyung takes over, one could hear jungkook harmonizing with him. jungkook’s adlibs could be heard again at 2:59 and at 3:01.
that short drum melody is used again as the go for the coda at 3:05 and jungkook’s adlibs again at 3:08, 3:13 and even hoseok contributing by saying ‘ah yeah’ at 3:17 and that nice melodic riff by jungkook at 3:21 and then at 3:23, hoseok’s giggle that just added more to the youth theme. and then one could hear that drum rhythm at 3:25 before namjoon ends off with ‘converse high’
lyrics: the lyrics here are more laid-back, maybe because the song is called ‘Converse High’ and are singing some praises about the brand ( but then again, who doesn't own a pair
also namjoon did mention before in 2015 in an interview that his ideal girl would actually wear a pair of red high tops converse shoes and is seen here in the lyrics in his rap 
흰 티에 청 반바지 빨간 컨버스하이 that’s it
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White t-shirt, jeans and red Converse Highs, that’s it
note: it is not common for people in Korea to actually say the brand or name of a product hence which is why when bangtan performed this song on Mnet Countdown, they changed it to ��Lover’s High’ to be in check with the broadcasting rules 
저 하늘 별보단 오늘은 니 신발의 별을 볼래 하하 다 남준이 몰래
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Rather than the stars in the sky, I wanna see the stars on your shoes Haha, without Namjoon knowing
now in hoseok��s rap, we see the mention of the brand, converse again, even adding his own humour in his rap lyrics by including namjoon inside 
니가 좋아 그래도 컨버스로우는 신지 마
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I like you but still don’t wear Converse Lows
this part of the pre chorus got me dying, the clear preference for high tops instead of the low cut converse shoes lmao
너의 컨버스하이에 꽂혔나 봐 별 수 없나 봐 나는 wo 너의 컨버스하이에 꽂혔나 봐 너무 좋아 다 자꾸 wo
너의 컨버스하이 I really really want yo 컨버스하이 I really really like yo 컨버스하이 I really really need yo 컨버스하이 컨버스하이
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I’m so into your Converse Highs I can’t help it I’m so into your Converse Highs I like it so much
Your Converse Highs I really really want yo Converse High I really really like yo Converse High I really really need yo Converse High Converse High
so this chorus and sort of coda talks about how one loves the shoes on that special someone, im here thinking do they dig the person or dig the pair of shoes or the special person they dig wearing those converse shoes being a bonus? 
컨버스 컨버스 i really hate a 컨버스 화려한 니 겉모습에는 말야 검정스타킹에 아찔한 하이힐 그래 그것은 사기야 근데 더 어울리는 것은 조던 numbers Ha 모르겠니 컨버스는 니 매력을 죽이는 옥의 티 아무튼 날 만날 때는 컨버스를 신지마 무엇보다 벗기가 무척이나 힘들잖아
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Converse Converse, I really hate a Converse When you look all flashy with your black stockings and your high heels That’s just a lie But you look better with Jordan numbers Ha don’t you know? Converses kill your charm Anyway, when you meet me, don’t wear Converses It’s too hard to take them off of you
so yoongi’s rap lyrics are actually funny to me, because he is going against the general idea of a girl wearing converse shoes being attractive, here he states, he rather have them wear jordan sneakers instead of those converse shoes and that they are even harder to take off ( is this suggestive hmmMM ) especially since converse shoes are laced up unlike high heels which could easily slip off
i feel that this song, for some reason, is very appropriate, maybe because of the fact that most youth, whether they own a pair of converse shoes, are very familiar with this brand, especially in Korea. i feel that the moment you own a pair of shoes with laces, you have reached that period of youth - which technically overreaches this whole concept of their album - youth. 
Reference: Colour Coded ©
choreography: the choreography for this one is laid-back, possibly the same level as Boyz with Fun choreography  ( which you could see here )
that cute footwork in the beginning, of course. for some reason they all look like boys who see their crush ( or maybe thats what they were going for ) 
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and when the chorus hits, here they are dragging their feet, honestly i think the main point of this whole dance is to literally exaggerate their footwork, possibly because the song title is Converse High. 
i dont know, i just really thought that this whole dance was cute?? 
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this part when hoseok comes in, well let’s all admire the formation, all i can just say that this whole dance focuses more on their footwork, highlighting those parts which then become the main point of the dance etc 
a cute dance to be honest 
last thoughts: regardless, i think this is still a fun song, not a hype for sure, but one that could still lift the mood
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flakandforay · 7 years ago
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고민보다 Go Analysis
here’s the analysis of the 8th track for the Love Yourself 承 Her album
i would be analysing several components - music, lyrics and dance
disclaimer: this is just my personal opinion, feel free to disagree. i would love to hear your opinions on this, leave them in my askbox.
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overall: okay so after listening to this song, it reminded me of 21st century girl and Fun Boyz ( 흥탄소년단 ) - those fun songs that just gets you in a groove tbh. not to mention how the dances for these songs aren't hardcore if you know what i mean. they're pretty much laid-back with only a few hardcore moves etc ( maybe thats why i get the vibe from it ) but either way, id say its a just a fun song and a nice song for them to promote along with their title song, DNA and MIC Drop. i had to listen to it a few times before liking it more than i should lmao but anyway, its a nice song to balance out the whole album asides from the title track with its electro pop, the hardcore MIC Drop with the soft sentiments from the intro and dimples and the outro and now this fun song that other people may enjoy more. truly, what namjoon said in their comeback V live that theres a song for everyone is true. he's not wrong at all.
music: okay, so what got me interested was the beginning of the track. this type of beat isn't that common and comparing with bts’ past songs, the beat is unusual ( but then again, during their early debut up till dark and wild, they were working on the hip hop and hard bad boy image which to me was great because the songs that they had last time were definitely suited for them ) 
so they had 13 seconds of the xylophone ( im pretty sure i heard it before, something similar as it uses mallets to play it ) then it moves on to using this flute, it might be the piri which is a traditional korean flute just in time when jimin comes in after 13 seconds. ( side note: the melody that the piri plays is quite mild, in a way, its not too low or too high, just enough to set the pace etc ) and ho ho, jimin’s starting the song again this time round !!! just like how he started best of me !! anyway what’s interesting is that they kept the first instrument sounds while putting the flute piece to be more dominant in this case but not overpowering jimin’s voice at the same time, interesting though. considering theyre using more instruments this time round.
interestingly there’s no actual bass during jimin’s part, just the same xylophone and flute, well in this case the xylophone is the one that’s keeping the whole song in check. but ahhh those few lines of jimin singing, it’s so relaxed, not too much pressure, like a short teaser. just in time for some few short drum beats as an intro for hoseok’s part at 0:28 ( like a little disclaimer that now it’s going to be a rap part )
anyway hoseok’s part, interestingly his rap here is pretty laidback, then again this whole song is laidback except for maybe the bridge/coda where the hype really intensifies. but moving on, hoseok’s rap lines are interesting because only specific parts are emphasized more such as ‘cruisin’ like Nemo’ where in this case, you can hear there’s a short pause in the beats for the ‘nemo’ to be be louder this time round!! but here the beats underlying it are actually just the xylophone this time round, the flute is removed !!! so guess actually the special characteristic of the song is the flute and done exceptionally well, using the flute in certain parts and not all ( so as to not overuse the flute because to me, the flute can be a bit pitchy if you keep hearing it for a while, considering that in this song it’s being amplified more when it’s being used !! )
but anyway, transitioning from hoseok’s part to jungkook’s part at 0:42, ( a short verse before it goes to yoongi’s rap ) there’s a very minimal use of drums in this case to intro that it’s jungkook’s part, so i it seems like jungkook’s part is a continuation of hoseok’s part ( in a way it’s within the same chunk of lines as the drums used were so short, it’s unnoticeable ) and then again, when it goes to yoongi’s part at 0:49, there’s also a very short use of drums !! and again underlying both jungkook and yoongi’s part, it’s the same xylophone melodies !!
for yoongi’s part, im pretty surprised that his rap was short as compared to the other members and to the other songs, but yet again, he delivers !!! you can hear how his tone changes interestingly, his lines are pretty short, but there’s some space in between his line for that small shout in between of ‘oh’ before he continues his last line where he actually e exaggerated his last word ( screams/cries...? i won’t call it growling or maybe it is ) but then afterwards there’s that short adlibs again of ‘woo woo’ before it goes on to the prechorus with jungkook again at 0:56.
actually here, the sound is being amplified so ive a feeling someone might be doubling jungkook, so in a way there’s someone underlying jungkook’s lines as well!! but actually it’s not all the lines, more of the end of his lines to exaggerate it more. im hearing seokjin’s vocals actually in this case ( and in the live performance seokjin is the one singing this part ) and again, is the same xylophone tune!!!!!! also, there’s actually a short adlib inside where the line repeats jungkook’s line ( kinda of like an extra emphasis ) remember that at 1:08 theres the emphasis on ‘want some’ before jungkook finishes the pre chorus smoothly 
now for the chorus at 1:24 with taehyung’s yolo, but look how slowed down the ;lyrics actually sound though in a way even when it transitions to jungkook’s part and then to seokjin and back to jungkook !!! the chorus is still pretty light in this case !! but you could hear the flute inside here underlying but very minimal!!
then when it comes to the 3rd verse at 1:54!! taehyung kicks it off but the tone of the voice that he's using, ohhhhh its so unique, its not his usual singing voice either and its barely him rapping, idk i find it pretty interesting, its a teasing voice to me!! and of course not commonly used by him! actually, the beats underlying this have more percussion this time round, less off the xylophone, an nice difference from the previous verses.
now to namjoon’s rap at 2:06, the beats used were similar to taehyung’s part beforehand but this time the percussion was bumped up a bit, to give it the extra feel of saying that this is the 3rd verse etc. even namjoon’s rap is pretty laid-back, not much aggression at all needed, he's playing with the rhythm and beats as well, giving 1-2 seconds spaces in between, and that nice short ad-lib at 2:20 to wrap up the rap nicely before moving on to the pre chorus again with jungkook !!!
tbh this part, those extra sounds at the end of the lines, i have a feeling it might jimin doubling, just because of the vocal tone etc before moving on to the chorus again at 2:35 with taehyung to jungkook to seokjin to jungkook again!! although it is to note that seokjin’s vocal tone used is slightly different and jungkook’s as well, its too relaxed in a way that they're saying the words rather than singing them. that same use of percussions before the chorus again as a signal was done well and even before moving on to the bridge at 3:03 with taehyung and seokjin !!
but the bridge is just more of the flute !!! look how tit just added more amplification to taehyung and seokjin’s lines in the bridge and only at 3:18 with jungkook and then jimin finishing up the bridge, did the percussion finally come in!!! but it actually is building up for the coda at 3:32, notice how the percussion used intensified not just from having crotchet beats, but more samples of percussions were used for the coda of them literally singing ‘고민보다’ and of course the characteristic of the flute is still being used !!
you can hear in the coda how the percussion intensified here but yet not overpowering the flute at all!! and then at 3:46, literally only the flute can be heard as the song comes to an end, that same rhythm to end the song till 3:55, a nice touch, kinda reinforcing that the flute is the hero of the song overall - a distinct tune that listeners won't forget.
lyrics: okay so lyrics wise, there isn't much to say because its a pretty chill song - in a way saying that you can spend money on yourself if you want to.
it is known that the younger generations dont really spend much money on themselves apparently, so in a way this song is to comfort the youth to pamper themselves once in a while etc.
돈은 없지만 떠나고 싶어 멀리로 난 돈은 없지만서도 풀고 싶어 피로 돈 없지만 먹고 싶어 오노 지로
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No money but I wanna go far away I don’t have money but I wanna relax No money but I wanna eat Jiro Ono’s sush
looking at hoseok’s rap, look at how he's trying to explain the dilemma of youths who dont really spend on themselves but they have so much wants that aren't fulfilled. especially since we all now live in a world where time is money, theres barely time for rest
열일 해서 번 나의 pay 전부 다 내 배에 티끌 모아 티끌 탕진잼 다 지불해 내버려둬 과소비 해버려도 내일 아침 내가 미친놈처럼
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Worked hard to get my pay Gonna spend it all on my stomach Pinching pennies to spend it all on wasting it Leave me be, even if I overspend Even if I break apart my savings tomorrow
now at jungkook and young’s part, they're painting the fact that the youth are working hard, especially since South Korea is known to be one of the countries where workers work long hours in a survey, more than average in a year
they're trying to console those who wants to spend etc
Woo 내일은 없어 내 미랜 벌써 저당 잡혔어 Woo 내 돈을 더 써
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Woo there’s no tomorrow There’s already a mortgage on my future Woo spending my money even more
then seokjin’s part, look at those lyrics!!!! its nice how they already pointed out how theres mortgage to pay for a house in the future since many aspire to have their own houses etc, working hard to earn to pay for something that hasn't even come yet, saving as much 
Dollar dollar 하루아침에 전부 탕진 달려 달려 man I spend it like some party Dollar dollar 쥐구멍 볕들 때까지 해가 뜰 때까지
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Dollar dollar Squandering it all in one day Run, run, man I spend it like some party Dollar dollar Till the sun shines through this mouse hole Till the sun comes up
then the pre chorus, okay honestly, this song has so much innuendos and nuances but nice touch there.
lmao, notice how they said ‘mouse hole’ because literally the youth stay in really tiny apartments especially in the city yet pay a lot for them
Yolo yolo yolo yo Where the party yah 탕진잼 탕진잼 탕진잼
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Yolo yolo yolo yo Where the party yah Squandering fun, squandering fun, squandering fun
so the chorus is pretty much these lines being repeated but ahHHH, again spending money like no one’s business, you only live once kind of message and to think that bangpd wrote the lyrics and song, nice touch there
내 일주일 월화수목 금금금금 내 통장은 yah 밑 빠진 독이야 난 매일같이 물 붓는 중
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My week goes Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday Gold gold gold gold¹ My bank account Is a pot with no bottom Every day, I’m pouring water into it
so taehyung’s part in the 3rd verse, nice word play there, because actually, friday = 금요일 and gold = 금, so you know how its friday after Thursday, but they just sing gold, gold, gold.
not to mention how they said that the banks were bottomless pits, spending money whenever
차라리 걍 깨버려 걱정만 하기엔 우린 꽤 젊어 오늘만은 고민보단 go해버려
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Just break it apart We’re too young to just worry For today, just go instead of worrying
namjoon’s rap lyrics were done well again, bringing back the notion of how youth are young and they shouldnt worry much about spending etc
고민보다 go 고민보다 go 고민보다 go go (everybody!)
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Just go instead of worrying Just go instead of worrying Just go instead of worrying (everybody!)
and now the bridge and coda being this, to just take risks without worrying much about the consequences just like how youth should be
id say the lyrics were pretty spot on with the message that they want to bring out, nicely done
choreography: like I've mentioned before, this stage is a fun, the 21st century girl vibes and fun boyz stage.
not too difficult dance moves, with only some appearing at the bridge, coda etc.
lots of meme moves as seen in the choreography itself, with the backpack dance etc and the several vines. tbh this whole dance is so cute and lively and goofy, love it
the intro with them appearing one by one 
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why isn't anyone talking much about this??? because literally look at them being a small gang, hands on shoulders, wow i need time to process this
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and this move, definitely 21st century vibes
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the backpack kid move, seriously, how fast can one swing their arms, but its so cute???? ( Reference )
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the shoulder shrug !!! prolly shrugging about spending money ( maybe?? )
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i need a moment, because wow 
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this iconic head bob from a vine ( Reference )
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this ending?? uhm rude but wow his eyes are big?? and that jawline oh my
but im still curious as to why they all stare ahh the right though, what is there hmm
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last thoughts: overall, i think this is a fun song, like ive mentioned before. but it is to note that this song does not have much doubling involved but then again i feel it would be unnecesary to have so much of it unlike the rest but anyway, like i said this song actually balances out the whole album etc and the message is well delivered, and of course great stages ( even outfits that are so cute, i mean overalls???? ) as usual, the lines given are pretty much fairly given out except for yoongi and the cute dance that everyone is making a challenge of, props to them for making the dance famous wink
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