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anne rice, famously a nightmare author to adapt from because she wanted to control everything, trying to make a vampire chronicles tv show with bryan fuller, famously a writer who can't hold down a job because he'll fight everyone over creative differences, was a real immovable object meet unstoppable force situation huh
#i think a lot about the vampire chronicles tv show that almost was#been missing anne rice a lot lately too#my girl has been getting so much hate from amc's interview with the vampire enjoyers#anyways love amc's interview with the vampire tho#also love hannibal and pushing daisies and american gods season 1#but fuck bryan fuller etc#the vampire chronicles#anne rice#christopher rice#bryan fuller#interview with the vampire#hannibal#amc's interview with the vampire#nat talks
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What would an ideal Season 4 of Hannibal look like to you? What plot elements would you like to see? Or do you even want a Season 4?
Thank you so much for this ask!
Do I want Bryan Fuller to get the chance to make a season 4? Honestly, no. As far as canon is concerned, I think the season 3 finale (without the zinger) was the best case scenario for a series finale. It leaves enough room for interpretation, for a variety of scenarios as to what could come next.
If I could magically have exactly the season 4 I dream about? Ooof, that's more complicated. Because I have several ideas for a potential season 4.
There are just three things that are absolute must-haves for any hypothetical season 4 for me:
obviously, Hannibal is still alive
the zinger is not something that actually happened (if it gets referenced at all, then it's a dream sequence)
Bedannibal is endgame (that does not mean there has to be any significant amount of Bedannibal screen time in the season, but it should end with the two of them reunited)
Another thing I'd like to see is the aftermath of what happened, and the consequences for the characters. No convenient time-skip to gloss over the procedural/legal implications. I want to see the full cluster fuck unfold. The scandal, the public outrage, the internal FBI investigation and the politics. The media circus. I want to see Freddie Lounds having the time of her life spinning the story of the murder husbands, of Will Graham freeing Hannibal Lecter.
As for the actual season 4 story arc, or rather potential story arcs, here are some of my ideas:
Murder husbands not so happily ever after:
Hannibal manages to save both himself and Will from the ocean, and gets them away to lick their wounds. He once again forgives Will for his betrayal, and believes that they can now finally have the life he always wanted for them. Will seemingly agrees. But all is not as rosy as Hannibal dreamed it, and real life together proves disappointing. Will may be everything Hannibal hoped for when it comes to being his partner in murder, but he finds him lacking in other areas of their life together. And Will harbors considerable resentment over the failure of his murder-suicide plan. In the end, their happy life implodes, and this time in a terminal way, with Hannibal killing Will. Heartbroken, Hannibal seeks out the one person he never found lacking: Bedelia.
2. A helping hand:
Hannibal manages to drag himself out of the ocean and evade the searches of the FBI. But he is injured, and needs help. And there is only one person he trusts enough to provide that help. Bedelia du Maurier.
Bedelia, for her part, has anticipated this possibility, and prepared accordingly. Despite Will Graham's threats, she has not left her home. When Hannibal manages to sneak back into Baltimore and climbs over the back wall of her property into her garden, she is ready and waiting. She confronts him before he can try to enter her house, keeping him at a distance at gunpoint until he gives her his word that he will not harm her, and begs for her help.
Bedelia is prepared to help, but not here. She orders him to wait right where he is, disappears into the house for a few moments, and returns with a bag. Then she asks him if he has a car nearby, and when Hannibal answers in the affirmative, tells him to lead the way. They leave the property over the back wall, the same way Hannibal got there.
Once in his car, she directs him across town to what turns out to be a closed down veterinary practice. When Hannibal warns her that all such places would have received an advisory to be on the lookout for him or any signs of break-ins etc. she informs him that this particular practice has been shut down for a few months, ever since the owner died. And it will likely remain shut down for a long while, since there is an ongoing dispute about the estate the man left behind.
When Hannibal questions how she knows about this place, Bedelia reveals that she overheard a conversation between two former customers of this veterinary during a spa visit a while ago. The two women were gossiping freely, and she learned a lot of useful information. Including where to find a spare key for the back door, and the likely code for the alarm system.
Bedelia's info proves correct. They use the practice and a mixture of supplies found there and others Bedelia brought in her bag to patch Hannibal up.
Once that is done, they have a talk.
Earlier, when she first confronted Hannibal in her garden, she asked if Will Graham was with him. Now, she returns to that line of inquiry, asking if Will is still alive. Hannibal doesn't know. He tells her he doesn't care, because after his latest betrayal, he is finished with Will. While Bedelia is happy to hear that, it's not the point of her question. She doesn't say so, but Hannibal can read her well and asks, prompting her to tell him about Will's threats towards her. Hannibal is outraged, and now hopes the man is dead.
They move on to the next topic: the immediate future. Bedelia makes it clear that whatever Hannibal has planned as his next step, she will not come with him. She needs to remain in her home so as not to draw any attention. Hannibal is disappointed, but he understands.
Bedelia does ask if he has a safe place he can go and lay low in. Hannibal tells her truthfully that while the cliff side house was his main safe house, he does have a few other boltholes. But it's been more than three years since he could check on them. They may not be there and safe anymore. He will have to see.
Bedelia is not happy to hear that, and to Hannibal's surprise offers him an alternative. She hands him a printout of a map, of the kind hikers use. It shows some rural area, one numbered state road, a few smaller, local roads branching off of it, going into stretches of woodland dotted with small lakes. A very thin road branching off from one of the local roads is highlighted. It leads up to one of those lakes, and the spot where it ends practically on the lake shore is marked with an X there on the map. Otherwise, only the big road is labeled with a number, but no further identifying localities are shown. It could be anywhere along that road.
Bedelia explains that this is in upstate New York, and the X on the map shows a private holiday cabin. A cabin which was originally built in the 1920s, then later bought by a decidedly shady business man, who hid it under an offshore company registered in the name of his last mistress. When she died many years later, it was left in a trust.
That woman was Bedelia's "great-aunt Marie", not an actual relative, but a friend of her paternal grandmother. Bedelia is the only still living beneficiary of the trust the woman left behind. The trust is managed by a law firm in Switzerland. No chance of anybody tracing it back to Bedelia.
The cabin used to be rented out through a local agency, but bookings had become sparse in the last years, and Bedelia arranged for it to be taken off the market about a year ago. It is still in decent repair. Hannibal is touched and very grateful for her help. And he hopes that at some point in the future, after the manhunt for him has died down, they will be able to meet again and he will get the chance to show her his gratitude.
Bedelia and Hannibal part ways not far from her home, after he drives her back to her neighborhood. Then he sets out for the cabin, and Bedelia prepares for a visit from the FBI, and potentially also from Will Graham, should he still be alive.
3. Will Graham's descend into darkness:
After his attempted murder-suicide, Will is pulled from the ocean by a fishing boat, more dead than alive, but he somehow manages to pull through and recover. Of Hannibal Lecter, no trace is found either alive or dead.
Physically, Will has a bunch of new scars, some lasting mementos that will twinge every time the weather turns, but over all he makes an almost miraculous recovery and regains his old strength. Mentally…
After the inevitable investigations and media circus finally die down, he returns to his life with Molly and Walter, and at first all seems as well as can be expected. But that's not true.
That fight at the cliff side house awakened something in Will Graham. He finally gave in to his dark side, thinking it would be the end. But it wasn't, and now his inner darkness will not allow him to stifle it once more.
He tries to resist, at first, but circumstances conspire against him. Molly has some trouble at work with a local asshole who is harassing her. When Will encounters the man alone and witnesses him abusing a dog, he tries to intervene, the situation escalates, and Will kills him. And he feels the same rush, the same high as during the fight with the Red Dragon.
Will manages to make the body disappear, aided by the fact that the guy was an all round asshole and involved in shady stuff, and nobody is sad he is gone. But after that first incident, the dam inside Will is broken. His next killing is planned.
Gradually, his behavior escalates. More dangerous victims, more "artistic" murders, less careful disposal of the bodies. (Perhaps, mid-season, one of his kills is found, and to Wills delight there is speculation that it is the work of Hannibal Lecter, that Hannibal is still alive after all.)
But while Will is now thoroughly enjoying his own twisted darkness, these killings still can't seem to scratch that inner itch.
And then there is some news item about Bedelia du Maurier, and suddenly all his dark urges have a new focus. The woman he has hated and been jealous of for so long. And now, he decides that he will finally have his revenge.
Bedelia was seemingly unaffected by the events of the season 3 finale, refusing to leave her home after Will's threats, and even after the news that Hannibal Lecter has escaped.
She did eventually leave, when Freddie Lounds and other reporters got too annoying in the aftermath of it all. Nobody knew where she had gone, until now. Will gathers as much information as he can, and carefully plans his attack.
The season finale is him carrying out his plan, only to get a nasty surprise: Bedelia is not living alone. She has been sharing her new refuge with none other than Hannibal Lecter. And the two of them have anticipated his attack, and prepared for it. Will Graham has stepped into a carefully prepared trap.
Epilogue: a news bulletin about the gruesome discoveries in the woods not far from Will and Molly's home, where evidence found in an old hunting cabin provided proof that the missing former FBI consultant Will Graham has become a serial killer and is responsible for a number of disappearances and murders, some of which were suspected to be the work of Hannibal Lecter. Given the new evidence, there is now no doubt they were the work of Will Graham. While Hannibal Lecter's fate remains unclear, there is no indication that he survived the altercation between him, Mr. Graham and the killer known as the Tooth Fairy. Mr. Graham is currently missing, and presumably on the run.
4. The shadow of the monster:
The dead body of Will Graham is fished from the Atlantic ocean several days after the fight at Hannibal's safe house. No trace of Hannibal, dead or alive, is found. Weeks pass, then months. Gradually, the furor surrounding the escape of Hannibal the Cannibal dies down, and life returns to some semblance of normal. The official investigations take longer of course, but without any trace of Hannibal being found, and with the surviving conspirators (Jack and Alana) with every reason to remain silent, they aren't having much success.
And then Alana Bloom receives a package with a bottle of a specific craft beer that she liked - not the beer Hannibal brewed specifically for her, of course, but another one he did serve to her - and some also very specific sweets. The date the package arrives is exactly the date of Hannibal's last dinner party. Or, in other words, the date Alana slept with Hannibal for the first time.
Alana is instantly convinced that this is coming from Hannibal. But there is no definite proof. No note, no fingerprints or DNA traces, and the package itself got sent in such a way that the true origin and who exactly posted it cannot be traced.
Over the next weeks, the other "old acquaintances" of Hannibal Lecter receive similar mail. Jack Crawford, Bedelia du Maurier, Frederick Chilton, Margot Verger. Even Freddie Lounds. Always items that are reminiscent of encounters with Hannibal, but never any concrete proof that this is coming from him.
Once again, the investigations ramp up, and this time, Jack and Alana are on opposing sides. Alana is convinced Hannibal is alive, Jack keeps insisting - partly because that's the story he told until now and he has to stick to it or open himself up to questioning again - that Hannibal is dead and this is someone else. But he can't explain how anybody else would know about these things.
The recipients of the packages react with varying degrees of fear and paranoia, but none are unaffected. And all of them try to work out who could be behind it all, with varying levels of cooperation between each other, and between them and the official FBI investigation. None of them realize that the sender of these packages is right in their midst.
Bedelia was disappointed and heartbroken when Hannibal gave himself up to the FBI three years ago. Over time, those feelings changed to anger. Anger at Will Graham, anger at Hannibal himself, and of course anger at the other players in this game, starting with Alana and the Vergers, and Jack Crawford.
As Will Graham said, if you play, you pay. Bedelia has paid her own price in the pain she has been feeling ever since Florence. Will Graham has finally paid the ultimate price for his obsession. Hannibal may or may not be still alive, but even if he is, Will Graham is dead, and Bedelia knows that death will hurt Hannibal. Right now, she does not feel any sympathy for him. He deserves that pain. But the others, they deserve pain, too. And Bedelia has no more fucks to give. She is ready to burn everything down. Life after Hannibal has been boring, stultifying. She has nothing else to occupy her time. And she misses him. And now she has found the perfect outlet for her emotions, and a task to occupy her time.
Hannibal meanwhile is still alive, licking his wounds. He finds out about what's going on, and is intrigued, but also annoyed that someone would pretend to be him. (He is particularly angry that Bedelia is among the targets of this person.) He decides to investigate.
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MURDER HUSBANDS | Wind them up and watch them go (love letter to NBC’s Hannibal)
♫ To the tune of Climbing Up the Walls by Radiohead (with overture by Bruno Battisti D’Amario) ♫
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So I feel like I say this every time. But Mary mother of god, this was a behemoth. By a mile the hardest vid I’ve ever made joke’s on me bc I’m the fucking crackerjack who decided to tack on an whole ass other song as an overture bc why in the name of all cocks would I decide to make anything easy like it’s funny bc I always have an impression of how easy a vid is going to come together when I get the idea, right. And this duo with this song just pbj. So ngl I thought the shit was gonna edit itself. But guess what yall? Radiohead like … makes some intricate, complex-sounding shit stunning revelation, almost as if that’s what they’re fuckinfjsbs known for
HOWMEVER, the day has come, it’s arrived and I’ve looked at this thing for so long now, I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, cannot tell if it’s good anymore. My last vid, I took a long break so by the end, I had enough time away from it to remember it was at least good. This? This could be visual gobbledygook, mush for your eyes, the equivalent of that shit brown shade you get when you mix too many water colors together.
But likehopefully it’s not and you can pls enjoy this love letter to one of the greatestqueer romances in modern media, which is a bold statement whatever fight me but I can’t think of a queer ship before this in tv/movies where the romance unfolds like any other hetero relationship and queer identity isn’t the focus, which even though I think is important, lbr there’s more to gays than being gay. Like it’s kinda visionary, despite the fact that neither character is explicitly queer, when it becomes clear that they’re in love with each other, no one, in-universe, is pearl-clutching all: EGAD! But Will’s never been with 😱a man😱 before?? How in THE DICKENS could he be in love with Hannibal when I don’t have definitive proof he’s even touched tips with another man let alone been balls deep!!!!!!!! How dare he not have this big, gay awakening for us all to gawk at applaud for!!!!” ?
No, literally every character: Jack, Alana, Bedelia, Margot, Mason, even Will’s wife god bless I cannot remember her name but she deserved better *shakes fist at Will* etc., all acknowledge the transcendent romantic bond btwn them and no one questions it. Well, no one questions it thru the lens of performed queerness. Tbf ppl had a lotta questions about the like probable impending multiple murders which validsisjwh
These are just 2 ppl who’re in love with each other to the point of being uncontrollably homicidal Which like … goals? Like I’ve really wracked my brain and can’t think of another queership that unfolds like every other hetero ass love story. That is to say, where fluidity is more the default, at least to the extent that no one talks about the orientation of either players within the show’s universe. Regardless of whether Bryan Fuller intended that from the start which tbh I don’t think he did but I also don’t think it’s fair to call it queerbaiting. I think he let the story unfold and realized kinda with the rest of us that this was a magical!realism romance and not a crime procedural and by S3 leaned tf into it doesn’t really matter bc the universe in which these two exist to truss each other up like Christmas turkeys aka foreplay symbolizes so much more to me than whatever it was initially invented to be. And if it’s not art, folks, idk what is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ofc I mean the show is art, not the vid. Vid=potential gobbledygook
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#Hannibal#will graham x hannibal lecter#hannigram#nbc hannibal#fan edit#fan trailer#also I know it’s been said before#but these two walked so Louis and Lestat could fly#except Lestat could already fly but like ygwim#mine#tribute video#y’know what I realized Xena is another undercover gay experiment#but I would argue they’re more queer coded since their gay love wasn’t confirmed until well after the show was over#but they deserve honorable mention bc the writers didn’t shy away from the subtextual gay love#or spend a ton of time dangling it in our faces only to turn around and punk us …. Supernatural you know who you are
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So I think we've all heard abt the Bryan Fuller allegations and honestly I'm not surprised. That man has always made me extremely uncomfortable and I hate it when fans use his tweets and stuff to justify "oh Hannibal and Will are gay!" We know, it's implicit in the show... I fully believe the allegations like he's WEIRD, and not in a good way. Just some things I recall are him saying he's proship, posting nsfw art of his COLLEAGUES online. Idk if mads and hugh are okay with this and it's not my business, but I find it so weird that he did that. Also he seems to really fetishise the power/wealth dynamic between Will and Hannibal, as well as Will's neurodivergency. I've seen so many people defend him before this because he is gay, but he is also a white, cis, middle aged man who works in Hollywood in a powerful position, just because he's gay doesn't mean he can't be a fucking freak. This is not to say you cant like Hannibal and not like Fuller, me being an example ig. Let's remember that Fuller did not create the characters, Thomas Harris did, and many other people worked on the show itself. He did not write every single line, in fact many of the lines are taken from the books and movies. I feel we can separate art from artist in this case, the real artists being the actors, crew, writers etc.
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supernatural s13e17 the thing (w. davy perez)
i'm just hoping for a middling episode at this point. if i had to point to one plot thing that opened the door to so much of the nonsense of later seasons, it's the whole men of letters concept. like a neverending excuse to make up new magic, monsters, good guys, bad guys. i like that it gave them a home, but i really don't enjoy that set. it's so sterile and meh. wish they had a crusty weird house packed with shit, like bobby's place. anyway. long held irritation over mol. and the british men of letters storyline is like all those things i hate x1000. i see how they're kind of working ketch like crowley, what side is he working for, loyal to himself in the end, etc. but i just can't give a flying fuck about ketch because of the infuriating b!mol arc. and mark sheppard had years to work into that role and for them to develop it. meh!
tentacle monster coming through the nexus with the beautiful young flapper lady is chained to the table...... ok....
also where did those randos get archangel grace in the 20s
dean, come collect your man, he's drooling on the books again.
by collect, i did not mean put "kick me" sticky notes on him -_-
well that little research montage sequence was cute. is the "jinkies" thing to tease sam about velma kissing him? or just general acknowledgement that the scooby episode did actually happen -_-
spn s13e17 key to chapterhouse / hannibal s3e6 reunited in the uffizi / the magicians s3e5 key to fillory clock door
so two things that jumped out at me about this scene. first, it just had a little more atmosphere and pretty for pretty's sake with the crumbled leaves falling through the shaft of light - which all kind of hit the magicians buttons for me. and secondly, the music... (this is a lennertz episode) it has brief shades of bloodfest (the music used in That Scene in hannibal s2e13 mizumono and kind of became will and hannibal's big emotion music) which automatically makes the spn music hit all sorts of emotional buttons that it didn't earn. now i think they've used that sound before, but combined with the scene and the atmosphere which is so often lacking in the later seasons, it really hit for me. (totally cried just getting that small clip from hannibal with the music, think bryan fuller said something about this piece of music resonates at the frequency of his tear ducts)
i have posted a lot about the musical score in hannibal - here's my masterpost :S ok one more thing about that piece, an essay by kate schau talking about brian reitzell's score in hannibal:
In a 2014 interview with Vulture, Reitzell describes it as “musically, probably the crown jewel of the whole season.” While most of Reitzell’s work for the score is predominantly sparse and percussive, “Bloodfest” adopts a more tonal, texturally dense approach. As a nod to The Silence of the Lambs’ association of Bach’s Goldberg Variations with Hannibal the Cannibal’s violent impulses, “Bloodfest” takes its well-known opening aria and slows it down by a factor of twenty; here it also undergoes pervasive electronic distortion. The resulting work is beautiful, haunting, and utterly essential to the atmosphere of the scene. The syrupy-slow melody of the aria gives it the trancelike quality of meditation, but none of the objectivity; like a premonition of heartbreak, it seems to operate in a temporally detached space of reminiscence where emotion is both immediate and far away.
i often bemoan the show that could have been with a different composer at the helm, but will add to the list if they could have kept the look and feel dark gritty messy aesthetics of the early seasons. so much of the later seasons is just too bright, too saturated, too sterile. sucks the vibes right out. it's sad.
um ok. asmodeus is juicin with archangel grace.
i mean just. we're really going with hentai tentacles
i don't care how many times they do it, i love it every time. never gets old
ok. tentacle monster is a god, sure
SAM Dean. OPHELIA If she fed on him, he would be here.
SAM So what, then? MARCO It’s like we said, if she’s not feeding, she’s breeding.
so ketch is gonna bring gabriel to the boys, how convenient
sigh ok. better than a woman in possibly-sexual-peril i guess
DEAN Oh my God. That's tragic. It's like a Hallmark movie. But with tentacles.
good one, dean-o
YOKOTH I like you, Dean. You’re strong. And I enjoy looking at your face.
it's a good face, can't argue with that
SAM So, that’s why we came. I mean we--we--we--need the Seal to get our family back. DEAN If it could take us somewhere other than, uh, tentacle porn land -- not that there’s anything wrong with that.
being that sam outed your "animated japanese erotica" hobby to jody in 12x06, we know, dean. we know
(this is my periodic attempt to remember where cas is and failing. why)
KETCH Was working for. But when he finds out that I stole his prize milk cow, well, I imagine he will hunt me to the ends of the earth. So...this is the only safe place I know. SAM What? Do you think you’re gonna just move in? KETCH Dibs on the top bunk? SAM No. DEAN (speaking at the same time as Sam) Deal. SAM What? DEAN I don’t know what the hell’s going on here. But if this helps us get Mom back, helps us get Jack back, then...sure. Whatever you want.
okie dokie. also convenient taking the moral quandary of extracting more of gabriel's grace for the spell, ketch just had it bottled up from asmodeus's stash
SAM Fine? So you want Ketch to go and not me? DEAN I don’t care if he dies. Hell, I’m kinda rooting for it. SAM Still, you can’t -- DEAN No, I have to. It takes something that’s been over there to open up the right door, so that’s either you or me. So I’m gonna go. And if something happens to me, if -- if-- if time runs out, then I need you to come and save me, and save Mom, and save whoever else, okay? SAM It’s safer if we go together. DEAN Oh, there’s no such thing as safer over there. You know that. I know you don’t like this, okay? I don’t expect you to. This is the way it’s gonna be.
sammy gettin a little jealous there. railroading sam on a decision like this feels like poking the bear. poking that giant little brother you don't get to make decisions for me bear. but i do at least appreciate that dean actually explains that a) he would worry about sam dying, unlike ketch and b) that sam can come save him if it goes sideways if they're not both there. script had dean saying please. guess they decided no please was necessary
sam looking sad/resigned, dean looking determined, gabriel suffering in the background
i asked for middling, i think that mostly qualified
#supernatural#spnwatch#spn 13x17#spn clip#spn musical score#christopher lennertz#hannibal#the magicians#spn-tm-thoughts#davy perez#spn bloodfest-ish
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if you’re still answering/if you would like to answer any of these! 💛🦚🏳️⚧️🌈
thank you!!! i am absolutely still answering (i'm fighting with my wip and its got fucking HANDS)
💛 - Who or what made you realize you were queer?
I knew I was bi as soon as I learned it was a thing, when I was like, 13 and on the internet for the first time. like, "you can like BOTH???" and then i figured something was up with my gender in high school but i didn't really figure it out until quarantine and i was spending a lot of time by myself. but there wasn't an isolated incident for that so much as a long and annoying journey asdlkfjaklsd
🦚 - Are there any queer books/shows/etc. that you would suggest?
Okay. Hear me out. Because I'm going to recommend Pushing Daisies which is not explicitly queer in any way there are no canon queer characters. HOWEVER the whole thing is easily read (and likely intened to be) a queer allegory, and was written by Bryan Fuller (same guy who did Hannibal!), who is a gay man. The premise is Ned is a piemaker who has the ability to reanimate the dead (with three simple rules, one of which being if you touch a dead person a second time, they die for good) and he ends up reanimating his childhood best friend/crush Chuck (whose real name is Charlotte). Meaning they can never touch again and have to get creative with their relationship! That's kinda the underlying ongoing plot, with each episode focusing on Ned, Chuck, and Ned's private investigator friend, Emerson Cod, solving murders using Ned's gift. ITS A GREAT SHOW EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH IT AND I'M PISSED IT ONLY GOT TWO SEASONS. (also Ned is very ace coded imo)
🏳️⚧️ - What Flag do you think has the best color scheme?
The bi flag honestly, I love that sumbitch. Pink, purple, and blue? Iconic, loud and beautiful. But special shout out to the gilbert baker rainbow flag with sex and magic on it bc those two colours make the rainbow soooo much better
🌈 - What's a Queer Identity, Experience or a piece of History you feel deserves more recognition?
I wish I had a better answer to this, I really need to do more research on queer history and read more experiences. But I do wish there was more focus on gender EUPHORIA as opposed to dysphoria. I never really had dysphoria which is part of why it took so long for me to figure shit out, but I got really happy and excited when people id'ed me as a guy or used masculine terms and he/him pronouns for me! Would love to see more focus on that side of the trans experience :)
send me a pride emoji!
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Star Trek Picard 3x04 thots
time for thots again
k so if you're new to my thots on star trek you probably should know that while I love picard as a character it is because he's an arrogant asshole who gets away with too much and deserves to be taken down a peg. Its one of the many, many reasons Sisko is my favourite captain, is that Sisko hates Picard for killing his wife and ruining his life. I like the idea that Picard is a hugely divisive figure in Starfleet and across the Federation because of what happened at Wolf 359 but more importantly, what happened afterwards. I think if the show had been a bit less chaotic that would have been the prestige tv to end all prestige tv, i.e. addressing the complex legacy of Picard the man.
anyway all this ties into my feelings that Shaw is right and should say it. Shaw's story of how he survived Wolf 359 was wonderfully affecting especially countering Picard's personal brand of mythmaking, i.e. he is still a man who cannot deal with not being the hero. Which is exactly what I WANT from my star trek. Picard believes one thing about himself, that he is a humble starfleet captain man who has never done anything wrong in his entire life, who isn't a showboater or a storyteller, while being the exact opposite: he should know that fish and chips shouldn't be eaten cold, yet he abandons his lunch to show off to a bunch of cadets. Was this once? Or was it a frequent occurence?
The twist in the tail that Picard's arrogance and showboating cost him the relationship with his son felt a bit lost, but that might have been on me losing focus. I liked and sympathised with Jack, who would have been, what, 18? Going to go make a great declaration, tracking down his biological father on the encouragement of his mother, and being accidentally cruelly rebuked as irrelevant. And then five years later trying to make a good thing of it, asking about hair loss etc, and picard just showing that he's way too self-involved to actually be able to relate.
Its a pity there's not going to be any real emotional fallout, or even Picard learning a lesson in his old age, because the show, after four episodes of doing a Not Bullshit Plot, has decided to bring in some Bullshit in the last few minutes. Jack is having visions!!!! Son of Picard is SPECIAL!!! Why do the changelings want him...and why did they know that the Titan was going to pick him up?? Either changelings are all through the federation (as implied in one ds9 episode, where a changeling tells Odo that there are dozens if not hundreds of sleeper agents throughout the federation who are never mentioned again), or what, Beverly is a changeling? I think it might be the sleeper agents leftover from the dominion war, but that is one hell of a story to pick up if so.
Idly, I wonder if they've ever asked Ira Steven Behr if he wants to come back and do a legacy show? Not that I necessarily want ds9 season 8, but I do find it odd that they've got none of the original writers back in for these last hurrahs with old writers (not since Bryan Fuller kicked it all off with the original concept for Disco, anyway). Today's episode was fine, but again it felt like a remix of some older episodes. I was sort of excited that maybe the nebula would be that Super Changeling that was mentioned in the beta novels (drink), which dies and basically fractures the link, but thats always too much to hope for. Still, space babies.
Anyway, another thot I had this week was that they have totally fucked up the casting of Jack, since he looks 33, not 23, and TNG onward casting was always to cast younger not older. Its like someone got confused, though I can't fault them, he looks so much like a baby patstew it really was a gift.
misc other thoughts:
captain shaw probably won't make another appearance but I love him, oh captain my asshole captain
who the fuck drinks white wine with fish and chips
oh seven my seven. excited for her and Raffi to be reunited maybe, not that there's going to be any space for them to be happy.
it was lovely to have a star trek breakfast, however I did sort of ruin it by not getting up til midday.
these are my thots on yaoi kthxbye
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Hannibal
my favourite female character: chiyoh!!!! my beautiful gorgeous girl who had both the ability and the audacity to shove will graham off of a moving train my favourite male character: will graham, again i will get into this further down three other favourite characters: hannibal lecter (unfortunately he is both funny and fascinating), reba mcclane (she is so good!! so good! she deserves better than all these morally bankrupt men), molly foster-graham (i would not shut up about her if i let myself ramble she is so kind and such a good mom and wife and she Also deserves so much better than these men. i love will to death but FUCK him fr leave molly alone. she was so cool in the scene with dolarhyde she did not need strength and superintelligence to get away from him she used everyday shit that anyone could do and it WORKED) my least favourite character: incidentally francis dolarhyde, when i first watched hannibal i was still very squicked out by nudity and seeing this fuckin guy grunting and flexing his nakedass body every five mins on my screen was A TEST OF MY RESILIENCE that i never got over my otp: hannibal/will. do people ever answer anything else for hannibal. they were my ride or die for what like 4-5 years?? i am devastated that i lost all my ao3 bookmarks for them because when i tell you i read THOUSANDS of hannigram fics. these two going canon was absolutely mind-blowing to me like i could not believe they had the balls to actually go there in this show that at the time was popular enough to be all over tumblr all the time i genuinely can't think of much i'd change about their relationship aside from Maybe being a little more overt at the end, but bryan fuller knows better than i do my notp: i was gonna say will/alana or hannibal/alana because i wasn't vibing with those storylines but then i remember people out there ship abigail with hannibal or will and that feels SO father/daughter to me that it makes me feel Discosting the character i'm most like: will graham. i will not get into the Nitty Gritty about my mental health here because that feels lowkey embarrassing to me but when i got into hannibal i was also struggling with things that had me experiencing chunks of lost time, dissociation, hallucinations, etc. this was partly a downside because hannibal-related hallucinations started to worm their way into my catalog of Shit To See BUT it was also the first time i'd ever connected with a character to the level of feeling almost like i was seeing my own brain broadcasted back to me on a screen, especially with my autism and avpd coming with hyperempathy, social avoidance, struggles with eye contact, etc. i was also, like, 16 at the time, so i hadn't yet learned how to deal with intrusive thoughts and was labouring under the illusion that i was Secretly Evil as a result of them, so will's struggle with his impulses & nature vs. him wanting so badly to be a good person were very relatable to me back then too favourite episode/season: this is cheating but specifically the latter halves of seasons 2 & 3. i'm not so big on the first halves bc they're mostly dealing with will in prison & hannibal/bedelia in italy which aren't the most interesting plotlines to me, but 2b (when will is trying to seduce hannibal & has everything with freddie lounds' 'death' and randall tier) & 3b (where hannibal is locked up and it's working its way to will getting him out) are MWAH chef's kiss to me. favourite episode specifically is the wrath of the lamb because how could it not be saddest character death: beverly katz :( i'm still sore about that every time most attractive character: chiyoh & reba from the women, rrrrghghgh probably will from the men but Specifically that fit he was rockin in the chiyoh episodes with the long black coat and popped collar and gloves that was so evil pirate looking
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okey i kind of agree but i think their could be several readings and the actual point is more will became violent because he fell in love with hannibal and he has very high levels of empathy. And him breaking out hannibal from prison is him choosing love over morals. (This is so queer-coded!!! I love it!)
( i also think maybe thats what op said but i just had this thought and wanted to write it down)
Let me elaborate. You generally care more for people your close with/ love then complete strangers and even though will can understand (every)anybody he can't let himself care for (every)anybody because that would break him (this is why he self-isolates in the beginning of the show.)
But in season 1 he cant help but start caring for hannibal because hannibal not only establishes himself as a safety net but he also, just, gets him.
Like the very first scene they are on screen together hannibal full on psychoanalyzes the shit out of will and will looks genuinely scared because everything hannibal says is right and He leaves immediately.
But due the curse of the first season he starts to trust hannibal, in the end hannibal breaks his trust by framing for all the murders etc.
In season 2a will is establishing an equal power dynamic by sending a killer after hannibal therefore showing him you can't fuck with me and in season 2b will is trying to lure hannibal, getting to trust him and is in the process reminded of how he fell in love with hannibal in the first place/ he starts to enjoy killing.
In season 3 will wants to understand hannibal after he left him and in the process not only sees hannibal as who he is but also himself. Because he is a mirror. He picks up on speaking patterns around him (that happens several times but the most noticeable scene i can think of is when hes drinking with margot the first time and shes says :" Did he have it coming?" Will: "What do you think?" Margot: "Can't say i know" And than will says "Neither can I" in a way that sound much more like margot talking than he himself.) He feels the feelings of people around him in almost the same intensity as his own and is very sensitive about it (season 1: when jack realizes his wife probably has cancer and will is (in the end of the episode) just like okey lets sit down and talk)
(i'm just saying that because i read people on here saying he is less emotionally intellegent than hannibal and like have we not seen the same show?? Will is incredibly emotionally intellegent this is why hes so good at manipulation (season 2a))
Okey anyway about season 3a he says to chiyoh that he has never known himself as well as he knows himself when hes with hannibal and thats literally just the definition of love!!
Like you'll always feel more like yourself with people you love than with strangers because they know you and you know them. (I know - you know thing)
Okey i think the point that i'm trying to make is will is not an inherently morally bad person like hannibal who was just kind of born with this disposition (i would probably say an anti social personality disorder combined with god complex and psychological trauma that resulted in his habit of just sometimes killing people who are rude (the only morals he cares about are aesthetic ones) anyways i'm losing track..) but he becomes a morally bad person for loving hannibal and therefore kind of adapting his habits (sometimes killing and eating people)
Again it's so queer coded!! It's basically saying what if love was morally unacceptable by society?
This all very meta and there are obviously several readings but thats just what i got out of it watching the show several times the last half year and reading a lot of analysis online and also with the background knowledge of bryan fuller being gay and saying in interviews (2007 i think) that he wants more authentic gay characters in television.
Anyway i love this show so much because it's so smart and well done!!
The whole plot twist in Hannibal nbc is that in fact Will had a dark side that enjoyed killing not because he was getting into the minds of the killers but because that's just how he was inside. That was a part of him that he was repressing and denying. The thought that he could blame it on his job helped but after he meets Hannibal he reaches his full potential. Hannibal sees right through him from the start and helps him accept himself as he really is, promising that they will be alone together, that he won't have to endure everything on his own. That they can create their own world and have their own rules, religion and morale. And I think that is wonderful
#hannibal#hannibal lecter#will graham#hannigram#hannibal nbc#hannibal meta#i hope this makes sense i just woke up#this show is soo good i want to eat it#i'm also new on tumblr i dont really know how it works yet
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Had a vision of a scene between Hannibal and Will like the ballroom scene in Labyrinth and I cannot stop thinking about it
#like its wills imagination slash a dream slash whatever and he is sarah and hannibal is the goblin king#and will is looking for hannibal who is wearing a mask and they end up dancing etc etc#but then will realises something and leaves and it turns out in real life something awful is happening or whatever#i see it soooooo clearly#bryan fuller you can steal my idea i dont mind#but the idea of a dancing scene between them is sooooo good#and like season 4 was intended to be a lot in wills mind right? it would work so well#shaking crying etc#hannibal#labyrinth#fuck off me
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uh this is gonna be nsfw…
bryan fuller said that hannibal has an overactive cowper’s gland. i had to look it up. it means he produces a lot of cum. and every day i wish bryan fuller would just shut the fuck up. i hate him i hate him 😭😭😭😭😭
There’s a lot to unpack here.
First, I don’t put a lot of stock in what Fuller says most of the time. I also find it weird he feels the need to talk about that kind of thing at all. Tbh, of all the things I have heard him say, this is not the worst.
Secondly, I don’t know exactly what he said regarding Hannibal’s anatomy. But the bulbourethral gland (fuck calling anatomy after a bunch of dead white men) is responsible for pre-ejaculate fluid, not semen. Semen is composed of multiple different things, but the purpose of bulbourethral fluids is to neutralize the pH of the urethra as well as lubricate the pathway because sperm are sensitive to the environment, especially in regards to acidity. Other fluids in semen help to basify the environment of the vagina to increase sperm survival, but that’s a different conversation.
If you look at the average percentage of what fluids/components make up the fluids released during arousal etc., bulbourethral glands make up a very small portion. Majority comes from seminal vesicles and the prostate. So having overactive bulbourethral glands has no say in how much ejaculate the cannibal makes, but how much pre-ejaculate.
#I really don't see why he had to make any comments on hannibal's anatomy#like not sure what his goal was with that statement#but welcome to anatomy lessons with this dumbass#tuition's free#anonymous#the curious clown
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i don't know if anyone is as in-awe as they should be about the fact that nbc hannibal exists. bryan fuller went to nbc and said "i want to adapt these hannibal novels to tv" and nbc said "sure why the fuck not" and then bryan fuller went and wrote about hannibal unlocking an unstable fbi investigator's desire to kill bite maim cannibalize etc and then also made them have an insatiable desire to fuck each other. we are lucky enough to live in this world people why are we not celebrating this
#killing eve too but i haven't seen it so i can't fully vouch for if it's as unhinged as hannibal#this timeline is for unstable and insane gay people with bloodlust and that's just something else#hannibal posting#щ#nbc hannibal
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OH HERE WE GO LADIES IT’S RIVERDALE, CHAPTER EIGHTY: “Purgatorio”
I’m tuning in to be VERY entertained on the grounds that I missed almost the entirety of S4 and will not understand anything
we open with an incredible analogue comparing the football team to the Army, as men do construct rituals: football players get blown into the sky, etc., in a heartrending mash-up of Archie’s innocence + the American ideal/expectations/pipeline of masculinity
Archie Company is decked out appropriately to storm Hürtgen Forest
that art direction trope where a character’s hearing goes EEEEEEEEEEEEEE after an explosion……...delightful
the Vixens and friends cheering him on from the sidelines as if Archie can only process his unprocessable present through the lens of his past………...hits the spot
distressingly wood-based rifles for our purposes
Archie > Dawson: I don’t mind telling you I felt emotion upon Archie hoisting his war buddy over his shoulders to that quadruple-toned “Chivalric Archie Using His Strength for Good” tune, like when he broke his whole hand busting Cheryl out of Sweetwater River
WHEN HE SAW HIRAM LODGE, I’M TELLING YOU!
Hiram’s dragon-scale gloves? absolutely savory; he would
“Yonkers” is one of those New York place names I don’t totally buy is real (Poughkeepsie is another)
the sepia-toned light in this hospital room rings true judging by all the Captain America fanfiction I’ve read; I also like the mint-colored hand towels draped on Archie’s bedframe bought, one assumes, using the Department of Defense’s Kohl’s Cash
Archie made Sergeant, which is the best ranking for a fictional character: important enough that they can be a leader, get into trouble; low-profile enough that you don’t have to write them in the room making terrible decisions; probably won’t die immediately, as a Captain or Private might be
Fifth period is AP English: Archie reads A Farewell to Arms to Corporal Jackson, a WWI novel by Hemingway that Jug definitely turned him onto
Christ, Archie looks good in that on-leave jacket thing
I like Jackson’s subtle graph paper-print hospital gown
Gay?!: was Jackson in love with Archie? is he gonna bus to Riverdale once he’s off his pain meds? RAS, is that you in there?
God you know I love that haunted-ass Exorcist wooden bench bus light lighting
how long has the WW been relocated under Pop’s??? I do NOT know what happened to La Bonne Nuit
Sexy, aesthetic Southside: Fangs’ hair? his Tony Stark glasses? the girls’ “I’m a Slave 4 U” Burmese pythons? Toni’s headdress and immaculate glossed lip?
Sixth period is Intro to Film: the only part of From Dusk till Dawn I’ve seen is Salma Hayek putting her toe in Quentin Tarantino’s mouth but judging from that I figure I’d like the rest
The female gaze: Jesus Sweet Pea still looks good
Toni’s stage is flanked by twin pillars of melting candles and I would like someone to track those down for my bathroom
if they lay one hand on Pop Tate…
Betty appears to be, on her own, running the FBI training course. Betty is such a freak
Betty’s FBI-appointed psychologist is “Dr. Starling,” wears a great yellow blouse; Betty eats what appears to be a mini-sized Milky Way
her blond FBI trainer-boyfriend (uh) Glen appears to be an unholy fusion of Jimmi Simpson and that one actor with brown hair and really sharp light eyes whose acting credits I can’t think of right now, you know who I’m talking about (not the guy from Vampire Diaries)
I quite like her patterned blouse and I hate his yellow (gold?!) and blue tie
Please protect Betty: obviously we stan the Silence of the Lambs shit even as it remains infuriating Bryan Fuller couldn’t get his hands in it
Betty’s cat’s crying was so disturbingly baby-like that I had to leave the room once I realized it was in fact a cat
I’ve watched the Elisa Lam tape too many times in recent hours to handle this hallway shot
REALLY GROSS LICKING NOISES
the Trash Bag Killer coming at her was scary :(
Betty’s lovely blue knit cardi with the puffed sleeves!
50 Shades of Betty: clearing her throat before the doctor quite finishes her sentence—Lili Reinhart continues to be great at conveying “slightly perturbing subterranean tension”
was Charles a serial killer too??? oh damn!
Betty has been successfully holding off giving Glen a key to her place until now, an era that must come to a close
fellas, “Do I at least get a kiss?” is a bad move
Veronica was rich: Veronica’s new digs: exposed brick, bougiely avant-garde chandelier; possibly an elevator door right there behind the dude?
Veronica has married Hiram, to no one’s surprise
Chadwick looks like Jimmi Simpson and brunet Evan Peters plus a jaw
Veronica’s single-puffled-sleeved gown…..madamn (she has absolutely been taking secret birth control pills)
Summer + Blair = Veronica: of course Veronica would be great at Howard Ratner’s job; I MUST know what “specialty showcase haute couture offense” Vinnie has committed
T-Dubbs’ green jacket
Veronica pretended she was working at like, a department store? but she MISSED the EDGE post-day-trading
their apartment is so expensive that their bedroom is totally exposed
oh my god, Hermione
Best costume bit: please get me these satiny green high-waisted slacks?! and ugh her blouse has shoulder tassels……..she’s flourishing
“That’s threatening to an alpha like Chad.”
yes, they have a private elevator. fine.
Glen and Chad get their ties from the same Men’s Warehouse
“When that helicopter went down on the way to Martha’s Vineyard…”
you know kissing is 4-real when one person cups their hand to the back of the other person’s neck all close
I don’t understand the drop of the Glamergé egg but I appreciate that there is one and that Veronica is like, get this the fuck out of my house
Veronica’s shiny cropped tweed two-piece, Yvonne’s weird feathery coat that matches her bf’s shirt (you know she’s supposed to be “too much” because she’s got big hoop earrings)
God, Jughead is next and I’m not gonna be able to handle it
OH GOD IT’S SO MUCH WORSE THAN I THOUGHT
Alphabet City?! the piano?? the fucking East Coast Beat typewriter shit—the day robe? I’m—READING CLUBMASTERS? FORSYTHE???
OH GOD HE’S DATING ANOTHER WRITER (she has nice pants)
Jughead eats: “that place you like” is a HOT DOG STAND in the middle of SOME GRASS
I’ve seen Brick like thirty times: Jughead wears high-ankle light blue jeans, grey socks, and spectators that blend to create the illusion of wading boots. I’m going to commit a crime
Jughead doubts it: “So did Kerouac. And Hemingway. And Fitzgerald.”
fuck yes I love Floundering Jughead, and his Pushy Agent who pronounces “career” like “Korea,” and the continuing tradition of Jughead getting kicked out of his house
I like Literary Grifter’s sweater
the Brat Pack, and most of the Rat Pack for that matter, were actors, but I assume RAS couldn’t resist the rhyme
I was 100% afraid we were about to learn Cora was an uncomfortably-young undergrad
the musical cue as she reaches into her bag is absolutely as if she’s taking out a gun, and it might as well be! it’s the scariest thing in NYC: an unpublished manuscript
showrunners doing a classic I Love Lucy job partially concealing Vanessa Morgan’s pregnancy via medium close-ups, draping black clothes
Cheryl slowly turning to ask if doesn’t she look okay 10/10 icon
Cheryl’s pins: she has either a tiny spider or maybe a tick
Cheryl’s sheaths: the lacy red thing, amazing
why is Cheryl’s left hand gloved?
Cheryl’s a chaos angel from hell: Cheryl’s going to forge a Rembrandt, which unfortunately means she’s my favorite person on the planet (she does not look happy about doing this)
btw is Nana Rose an Immortal?
please tell me about Toni’s eyelashes
EXTREMELY HAUNTED DOLL?!
“Damn good coffee”: Archie’s earnest “Where are people gonna sit for the bus?” slayed me
fuck YEAH Ghoulies party house! terrible music but really good skull spray paint art
Jug looks LOW lol
Veronica’s blouse + buttons, impeccable
I’m writing a scene where it’s gay.: Tabitha/Squeaky
the hellscape semi’s red backlighting and its skeleton’s red eyes
I like Linette’s glossy bomber!
the trucker who’s about to kill her can’t also be the Trash Bag Killer….truckers have to stick to too much of a schedule….but he could be Betty’s meandering serial
I loved this episode
NEXT WEEK: Archie brings the FBI down on some people paying their rent :(
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I can't be more in agreement with you??? I feel like fuller is now too afraid. Like if he got the show back he wouldn't want to loose it.... So he'd do more of the same, which isn't what fans want! A lot of why we like this show is development and change from. Hannibal and Will. Will being put of his mind makes NO sense. He just Became why would he be? Hannibal manipulating Will makes a little more sense but like.... SNOOZE. We've already been here.
Idk about your opinion on this but... I'm actually really glad now that they didn't say there's gonna be a renewal. I just don't know if Fuller would go anywhere interesting with it, though he did great in the past. And I know this is a matter of opinion but a lot of fans don't see Will as straight. Actually his comments on that didn't really bother me bc Fuller is gay himself and has many queer characters (I'm not always happy with how he TREATS them but mostly yes). But it was such a STRANGE
thing to say given that they've said many times that it's a love story etc. And actually yes I do think some confirmation of this is important to queer fans like me watching the show and yes preferably a sex scene and no I don't understand why NOT. why is that NOT on the to do list? Why specifically does he feel like they don't need a scene when Will and Hannibal slept with so many other people like I'm gonna need an explanation better than that. I just hate so much that sex scenes in general
are fine until it's Will and Hannibal then it's "not needed"?????? Like were the other ones "needed???" Please explain, Fuller. Anyway I guess my point is- thanks so much for the great work up until now, I don't need season 4, and I will make due with fics since everyone seems to understand these characters better than Fuller does, even Mads.
“Thanks for the great work up until now, I don’t need season 4″ is my exact attitude with regard to the whole thing tbh
It really seems like Bryan just wants to retread old ground and imo the ONLY reason that I would want a s4 is so we could see hannigram actually become an explicitly sexual relationship onscreen—it seems WILD to me to suggest that that’s “not needed”. If the relationship is canon as he has always insisted, why would it be not needed??? Why would they not take it there???
We’ve seen both of them have sex with other people so it’s not like either of them is ace in the sense of not liking sex, and even if they were not actively sexually attracted to each other it seems strange to make them have a canon romantic relationship as people who do both enjoy sex and not have them have sex with each other???
I support saying that Hannibal wouldn’t fuck Will unless Will could give proper consent, bc obviously, but why would Will not consent at this point? Why would they write a story in which Will was not in a place to consent?? Having Will be crazy or whatever is such a ridiculous idea when he was so self-assured and certain in himself throughout the finale. I can’t imagine the Will who said “it’s beautiful” not accepting the new life with Hannibal post-fall and I think it seems silly to make him go mad with bloodlust or something??
It would be a lot more interesting to see him try to navigate a relationship with Hannibal from a position of relative sanity!!! I want to see how they would interact with each other from a place where they were both trying to actually make it work!!! There are so many barriers for them to surmount in terms of intimacy and trust and I think it would be super cool to watch them navigate those while also navigating being on the run and their wounds and things!!!
We’ve all written so many takes on that and I love that!!! It’s so much fun to explore that!!! And I really don’t think anything they could possibly actually make at this point would ever stand up to the thousands of fics we’ve all written, even if Bryan did understand the characters, which he obviously does not
#hannibal#anti bryan fuller#hannigram#asks#hannibalswetsheets#mine#like I appreciate him bringin us this but i'd like him to be done now
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Rewatched Hannibal Recently...
... here are some random thoughts brain chips on the third season
watch out for a text wall it's a doozy down under
this rewatching I finally realized the first half of this season Hannibal was basically like “I’m touring Europe with Bedelia one last time before I check myself into jail so I can see my bf often”
Will must’ve been real good at arts and crafts. He made a whole ass butterfly?bee?dragonfly?firefly man display out of shattered wine bottles and garbage from a basement basically
Also how did he not cut his hands with the glass???? He had leather gloves sure but it’s not like those are cut resistant?????? Does he have cut-resistant leather gloves???????
In Hannibal Rising Chiyoh is Hanni’s aunt’s lady-in-waiting (?) and was described as being about his age; if we’re going by that, she’s the same age as him in the show, which, ughhhhhh, let’s just say really really plays into the idea of us Asians not raisining (not mad at all; Tao Okamoto is so beautiful im gay as HELL —)
Bedelia: you’re in love with Will Graham and also leave me alone plz can I stop finishing murders on your behalf now
Hannibal was remarkably off his killing game at the end of the second season (or just really on his planning game) like NO ONE except for poor Abigail is dead by the 3rd season
Thinking about the filming of some scenes is so funny like:
the crew carrying leather arm chairs and fancy glass side tables into the middle of some woods for a single shot
Bryan Fuller being like “ughhhh can I get a membrane-like sheet over this macro lens so I can film it bring sliced open like its will’s stomach skin”
“also I need three thousand gallons of fake blood for some cool reverse drip shots”
everyone: Will help us catch Hannibal you must hate him so much right???? Will: busy imagining alternate reality where he and Hannibal actually worked it out at the end of the 2nd season
Will: tries his damndest to ignore everyone telling him he and Hannibal are in love while being very much smitten
Mason: talks religious mumbo jumbo Alana after her bi awakening: *choke stare
the only saving grace for Jack Crawford is how much he’s the “I love my wife” trope
Frederic: ...why does no one wanna help me with Hannibal hunting when I go a-knocking but when Will does it everyone’s with him????????? What’d I do
No one: Bryan Fuller: I NEED SOME SNAIL FUCKING SHOTS HERE
Bedelia: i feel like I’m your diet Will Graham Hannibal: what? no *continues to talk about how special Will Graham is and how no one will be his equal basically
WOAH question on Chiyoh so did Hannibal ~literally~ taxidermy her in time with some cannibal magic & that’s why she looks about, I don’t know, in her twenties still ?????? /s
Bryan Fuller: NOW I NEED TO OPEN AN OLD PAYPHONE FOR AN INTERIOR SHOT
Chiyoh: he’s good looking but dumb about Hannibal so
I’ll kiss him
then push him off the train
(hopefully dude’ll be warned but also finally learn how to gay)
Bryan Fuller: ARE YOU MISSING SOME SLOW MOTION SHOTS OF HUGH DANCY FLIPPING OF THE TRAIN IN YOUR LIFE? ALWAYS
how did Mason and Pazzi achieve high resolution uninterrupted overseas video chat with the front camera of Apple laptops????? the power of wealth????? whenever I call my mom my phone turns into a potato pretty much
the jack v hannibal fight was the ultimate “I luh my dead wife” man v “I just need to stay alive and go meet my boyfriend” man fight
Bedelia: I know what your goodbye is; I know what you wanna do to Will and you’re in love with the dude. No thanks I’ll yeet myself outta here
“waving your uterus around like a weapon” how iconic
Dolce will forever go down in cinematic history there I said it. Nothing tops the mirroring scars, the downright sensual romantic dialogue in front of a fucking Botticelli, this 水乳交融 of two minds (can’t find a good enough translation other than maybe “melding”), one of the weirdest most kaleidoscope-forward lesbian sex scene of all times, a lot of overlapping orgasm faces, reflexive hugs and pats of comfort, weirdly timed lip-lickings, etc etc
At least Mason recognizes how good looking Will’s is lmao even with all the burnt penis talk on the table
“He’s looking very dry a little moisturizer please” Mason your gay is showing
“It’s dangerous getting exactly what you want” yeah we got this season of Hannibal and then no more of it I’d say you’re right on the money Dr. Lecter
Alana and Margot helping Hannibal and Will: LGBT solidarity at its finest
dumbest thing mason did was probably pissing off Margot
So basically Chiyoh is made of a stable metal element between iron and silver that’s why she doesn’t age?????? /s
maybe “I found you in my mind palace” can be our “always”
I remember the first time I watched Digestivo and I was so worried Hannibal’s gonna finish eating Will or take off or continue into the book silence of the lamb arc or something after Will basically went “I won’t go looking for you at all bye bitch where my dogs at” so imagine my fucking delight ecstasy when Hannibal threw himself at the FBI just so Will can always find him. I cried buckets and became a devout Bryan Fuller STAN that day
Chiyoh: fuck this shit im out; don’t wanna protect this idiot boy with luv no mo
Molly: weirdly familiar sharp features, sand-blond hair, husky sultry deeper voice hmmmmmmmmm guess WHAT
...but she actually likes doggos so
Bryan Fuller: HUGH DANCY. COVERED IN BLOOD. NAKED. UNDER THE MOONLIGHT. NOW
Will gives Bedelia SO MUCH SHIT about using Hannibal as a means to fame that he almost forgets how possessive protective of Hanni this makes him look
Bedelia: calm yo ass do you know how many “Will is special you’ll never be him” talks I’ve been in with Hannibal as the main lecturer?????
Bedelia: did you go visit him Will: ...yeah Bedelia: whelp fuck my leg is about good as steak any day now
An odd detail I remember about this Will/Bedelia interaction was Bryan Fuller saying in some interview (probably) that this is basically wife confronting mistress; you know who’s which
when Reba was touching the tiger that vet guy must’ve stayed in the room right??? for safety and stuff??? guy must’ve had the weirdest time just seeing Francis freak the fuck out watching Reba
also Reba deserves all the nice things in the world; Francis though an overall shitty person can recognize beauty
...wait i take it back dude said Will was ugly (ok he said “not very handsome” but) like bitch where
for a series with pretty good sfx that teeth scene in 310 was fake as f---
will and bedelia taking shots at each other verbally cracks me tf up like is this the psychology people’s version of “you suck” “uno reverse”
i have to keep reminding myself that this is a crime show that actually aired on national tv bc these dialogues mama??? downright telenovela. Bryan Fuller has a point when he described them as wife and mistress
Bedelia: I would’ve preferred to be bluebeard’s last wife Will: challenge accepted
i cannot stress this enough REBA DESERVES BETTER she seems like the nicest, most well-meaning person ever and deserves to be cherished like so
it's so strange, getting everything that you want; take Will’s slow-burn-esque realization of Hannibal’s twisted affections for example
Bryan Fuller: NOW GIVE ME A CLOSE UP OF ICE SUCKING
So basically Hannibal’s attitude is “if I can’t be a constant fixture in his life I’ll be on his mind”
Hannibal is always a sucker for some good will ehhhh
Hannibal, in a police vehicle: get in Will we’re going cliff-diving dragon hunting; no but the actual line is just as cheesy geez hanni u smooth man-eater
The Bloom-Vergers look straight out of some gothic family catalog (if those exist)
like i will spare y’all the contrived complements of the Wrath of the Lamb bc like fucking hells mate there's no straight explanation for this finale
that’s it thanks for reading mates hannigram forever also someday some wealthy person will revive this I'm sure and we’ll rejoice then
#hannibal#nbc hannibal#hannigram#will graham#chiyoh#brain chips#im sorry but also not#hannibal s3#i really appreciate Bryan Fuller if you cant tell#thank you for your service mr fuller#me rambling#bedelia du maurier#jack crawford#reba mcclane#bryan fuller
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i love nbc han/nibal so goddamn much
#♞ ( THIS IS MY DESIGN. ) ᵒᵒᶜ⋅#honestly god bless bryan fuller for making it ...#and for the direction he's taken it#his version of han/nibal is stunning & im in love#the only other show that i can constantly watch is p&r because thats a masterpiece as well but in a comedic / slice of life sense#this is just cinematic and storytelling beauty ...#honestly the finale still fdfdkk fucking gets to me all !! the goddamn time#& im holdin out for S4 ... @ the gods that be please let it happen#i mean nbc han/nibal has its flaws just as any other show does it's not perfect#but holy shit the way its written and directed is just .... wow ....#a show way ahead of its time#honestly bless @ bryan fuller i love this man for makin nbc hannibal#honestly like...everyone's allowed to have their opinions but if ur not a fan of the show or the themes (yanno death cannibalism gore etc)#probs shouldnt be followin me js
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