#but fuck bryan fuller etc

[wreckitnat]

anne rice, famously a nightmare author to adapt from because she wanted to control everything, trying to make a vampire chronicles tv show with bryan fuller, famously a writer who can't hold down a job because he'll fight everyone over creative differences, was a real immovable object meet unstoppable force situation huh

[hausofmamadas]

MURDER HUSBANDS | Wind them up and watch them go (love letter to NBC’s Hannibal)

♫ To the tune of Climbing Up the Walls by Radiohead (with overture by Bruno Battisti D’Amario) ♫

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Wow

So I feel like I say this every time. But Mary mother of god, this was a behemoth. By a mile the hardest vid I’ve ever made joke’s on me bc I’m the fucking crackerjack who decided to tack on an whole ass other song as an overture bc why in the name of all cocks would I decide to make anything easy like it’s funny bc I always have an impression of how easy a vid is going to come together when I get the idea, right. And this duo with this song just pbj. So ngl I thought the shit was gonna edit itself. But guess what yall? Radiohead like … makes some intricate, complex-sounding shit stunning revelation, almost as if that’s what they’re fuckinfjsbs known for

HOWMEVER, the day has come, it’s arrived and I’ve looked at this thing for so long now, I sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, cannot tell if it’s good anymore. My last vid, I took a long break so by the end, I had enough time away from it to remember it was at least good. This? This could be visual gobbledygook, mush for your eyes, the equivalent of that shit brown shade you get when you mix too many water colors together.

But likehopefully it’s not and you can pls enjoy this love letter to one of the greatestqueer romances in modern media, which is a bold statement whatever fight me but I can’t think of a queer ship before this in tv/movies where the romance unfolds like any other hetero relationship and queer identity isn’t the focus, which even though I think is important, lbr there’s more to gays than being gay. Like it’s kinda visionary, despite the fact that neither character is explicitly queer, when it becomes clear that they’re in love with each other, no one, in-universe, is pearl-clutching all: EGAD! But Will’s never been with 😱a man😱 before?? How in THE DICKENS could he be in love with Hannibal when I don’t have definitive proof he’s even touched tips with another man let alone been balls deep!!!!!!!! How dare he not have this big, gay awakening for us all to gawk at applaud for!!!!” ?

No, literally every character: Jack, Alana, Bedelia, Margot, Mason, even Will’s wife god bless I cannot remember her name but she deserved better *shakes fist at Will* etc., all acknowledge the transcendent romantic bond btwn them and no one questions it. Well, no one questions it thru the lens of performed queerness. Tbf ppl had a lotta questions about the like probable impending multiple murders which validsisjwh

These are just 2 ppl who’re in love with each other to the point of being uncontrollably homicidal Which like … goals? Like I’ve really wracked my brain and can’t think of another queership that unfolds like every other hetero ass love story. That is to say, where fluidity is more the default, at least to the extent that no one talks about the orientation of either players within the show’s universe. Regardless of whether Bryan Fuller intended that from the start which tbh I don’t think he did but I also don’t think it’s fair to call it queerbaiting. I think he let the story unfold and realized kinda with the rest of us that this was a magical!realism romance and not a crime procedural and by S3 leaned tf into it doesn’t really matter bc the universe in which these two exist to truss each other up like Christmas turkeys aka foreplay symbolizes so much more to me than whatever it was initially invented to be. And if it’s not art, folks, idk what is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ofc I mean the show is art, not the vid. Vid=potential gobbledygook

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taglist: @tofuwildcard @narcolini @ashlingnarcos @drabbles-mc

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So I think we've all heard abt the Bryan Fuller allegations and honestly I'm not surprised. That man has always made me extremely uncomfortable and I hate it when fans use his tweets and stuff to justify "oh Hannibal and Will are gay!" We know, it's implicit in the show... I fully believe the allegations like he's WEIRD, and not in a good way. Just some things I recall are him saying he's proship, posting nsfw art of his COLLEAGUES online. Idk if mads and hugh are okay with this and it's not my business, but I find it so weird that he did that. Also he seems to really fetishise the power/wealth dynamic between Will and Hannibal, as well as Will's neurodivergency. I've seen so many people defend him before this because he is gay, but he is also a white, cis, middle aged man who works in Hollywood in a powerful position, just because he's gay doesn't mean he can't be a fucking freak. This is not to say you cant like Hannibal and not like Fuller, me being an example ig. Let's remember that Fuller did not create the characters, Thomas Harris did, and many other people worked on the show itself. He did not write every single line, in fact many of the lines are taken from the books and movies. I feel we can separate art from artist in this case, the real artists being the actors, crew, writers etc.

[rathockey]

if you’re still answering/if you would like to answer any of these! 💛🦚🏳️‍⚧️🌈

thank you!!! i am absolutely still answering (i'm fighting with my wip and its got fucking HANDS)

💛 - Who or what made you realize you were queer?

I knew I was bi as soon as I learned it was a thing, when I was like, 13 and on the internet for the first time. like, "you can like BOTH???" and then i figured something was up with my gender in high school but i didn't really figure it out until quarantine and i was spending a lot of time by myself. but there wasn't an isolated incident for that so much as a long and annoying journey asdlkfjaklsd

🦚 - Are there any queer books/shows/etc. that you would suggest?

Okay. Hear me out. Because I'm going to recommend Pushing Daisies which is not explicitly queer in any way there are no canon queer characters. HOWEVER the whole thing is easily read (and likely intened to be) a queer allegory, and was written by Bryan Fuller (same guy who did Hannibal!), who is a gay man. The premise is Ned is a piemaker who has the ability to reanimate the dead (with three simple rules, one of which being if you touch a dead person a second time, they die for good) and he ends up reanimating his childhood best friend/crush Chuck (whose real name is Charlotte). Meaning they can never touch again and have to get creative with their relationship! That's kinda the underlying ongoing plot, with each episode focusing on Ned, Chuck, and Ned's private investigator friend, Emerson Cod, solving murders using Ned's gift. ITS A GREAT SHOW EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH IT AND I'M PISSED IT ONLY GOT TWO SEASONS. (also Ned is very ace coded imo)

🏳️‍⚧️ - What Flag do you think has the best color scheme?

The bi flag honestly, I love that sumbitch. Pink, purple, and blue? Iconic, loud and beautiful. But special shout out to the gilbert baker rainbow flag with sex and magic on it bc those two colours make the rainbow soooo much better

🌈 - What's a Queer Identity, Experience or a piece of History you feel deserves more recognition?

I wish I had a better answer to this, I really need to do more research on queer history and read more experiences. But I do wish there was more focus on gender EUPHORIA as opposed to dysphoria. I never really had dysphoria which is part of why it took so long for me to figure shit out, but I got really happy and excited when people id'ed me as a guy or used masculine terms and he/him pronouns for me! Would love to see more focus on that side of the trans experience :)

send me a pride emoji!

[cicaklah]

Star Trek Picard 3x04 thots

time for thots again

k so if you're new to my thots on star trek you probably should know that while I love picard as a character it is because he's an arrogant asshole who gets away with too much and deserves to be taken down a peg. Its one of the many, many reasons Sisko is my favourite captain, is that Sisko hates Picard for killing his wife and ruining his life. I like the idea that Picard is a hugely divisive figure in Starfleet and across the Federation because of what happened at Wolf 359 but more importantly, what happened afterwards. I think if the show had been a bit less chaotic that would have been the prestige tv to end all prestige tv, i.e. addressing the complex legacy of Picard the man.

anyway all this ties into my feelings that Shaw is right and should say it. Shaw's story of how he survived Wolf 359 was wonderfully affecting especially countering Picard's personal brand of mythmaking, i.e. he is still a man who cannot deal with not being the hero. Which is exactly what I WANT from my star trek. Picard believes one thing about himself, that he is a humble starfleet captain man who has never done anything wrong in his entire life, who isn't a showboater or a storyteller, while being the exact opposite: he should know that fish and chips shouldn't be eaten cold, yet he abandons his lunch to show off to a bunch of cadets. Was this once? Or was it a frequent occurence?

The twist in the tail that Picard's arrogance and showboating cost him the relationship with his son felt a bit lost, but that might have been on me losing focus. I liked and sympathised with Jack, who would have been, what, 18? Going to go make a great declaration, tracking down his biological father on the encouragement of his mother, and being accidentally cruelly rebuked as irrelevant. And then five years later trying to make a good thing of it, asking about hair loss etc, and picard just showing that he's way too self-involved to actually be able to relate.

Its a pity there's not going to be any real emotional fallout, or even Picard learning a lesson in his old age, because the show, after four episodes of doing a Not Bullshit Plot, has decided to bring in some Bullshit in the last few minutes. Jack is having visions!!!! Son of Picard is SPECIAL!!! Why do the changelings want him...and why did they know that the Titan was going to pick him up?? Either changelings are all through the federation (as implied in one ds9 episode, where a changeling tells Odo that there are dozens if not hundreds of sleeper agents throughout the federation who are never mentioned again), or what, Beverly is a changeling? I think it might be the sleeper agents leftover from the dominion war, but that is one hell of a story to pick up if so.

Idly, I wonder if they've ever asked Ira Steven Behr if he wants to come back and do a legacy show? Not that I necessarily want ds9 season 8, but I do find it odd that they've got none of the original writers back in for these last hurrahs with old writers (not since Bryan Fuller kicked it all off with the original concept for Disco, anyway). Today's episode was fine, but again it felt like a remix of some older episodes. I was sort of excited that maybe the nebula would be that Super Changeling that was mentioned in the beta novels (drink), which dies and basically fractures the link, but thats always too much to hope for. Still, space babies.

Anyway, another thot I had this week was that they have totally fucked up the casting of Jack, since he looks 33, not 23, and TNG onward casting was always to cast younger not older. Its like someone got confused, though I can't fault them, he looks so much like a baby patstew it really was a gift.

misc other thoughts:

captain shaw probably won't make another appearance but I love him, oh captain my asshole captain

who the fuck drinks white wine with fish and chips

oh seven my seven. excited for her and Raffi to be reunited maybe, not that there's going to be any space for them to be happy.

it was lovely to have a star trek breakfast, however I did sort of ruin it by not getting up til midday.

these are my thots on yaoi kthxbye

[nazali]

Hannibal

my favourite female character: chiyoh!!!! my beautiful gorgeous girl who had both the ability and the audacity to shove will graham off of a moving train my favourite male character: will graham, again i will get into this further down three other favourite characters: hannibal lecter (unfortunately he is both funny and fascinating), reba mcclane (she is so good!! so good! she deserves better than all these morally bankrupt men), molly foster-graham (i would not shut up about her if i let myself ramble she is so kind and such a good mom and wife and she Also deserves so much better than these men. i love will to death but FUCK him fr leave molly alone. she was so cool in the scene with dolarhyde she did not need strength and superintelligence to get away from him she used everyday shit that anyone could do and it WORKED) my least favourite character: incidentally francis dolarhyde, when i first watched hannibal i was still very squicked out by nudity and seeing this fuckin guy grunting and flexing his nakedass body every five mins on my screen was A TEST OF MY RESILIENCE that i never got over my otp: hannibal/will. do people ever answer anything else for hannibal. they were my ride or die for what like 4-5 years?? i am devastated that i lost all my ao3 bookmarks for them because when i tell you i read THOUSANDS of hannigram fics. these two going canon was absolutely mind-blowing to me like i could not believe they had the balls to actually go there in this show that at the time was popular enough to be all over tumblr all the time i genuinely can't think of much i'd change about their relationship aside from Maybe being a little more overt at the end, but bryan fuller knows better than i do my notp: i was gonna say will/alana or hannibal/alana because i wasn't vibing with those storylines but then i remember people out there ship abigail with hannibal or will and that feels SO father/daughter to me that it makes me feel Discosting the character i'm most like: will graham. i will not get into the Nitty Gritty about my mental health here because that feels lowkey embarrassing to me but when i got into hannibal i was also struggling with things that had me experiencing chunks of lost time, dissociation, hallucinations, etc. this was partly a downside because hannibal-related hallucinations started to worm their way into my catalog of Shit To See BUT it was also the first time i'd ever connected with a character to the level of feeling almost like i was seeing my own brain broadcasted back to me on a screen, especially with my autism and avpd coming with hyperempathy, social avoidance, struggles with eye contact, etc. i was also, like, 16 at the time, so i hadn't yet learned how to deal with intrusive thoughts and was labouring under the illusion that i was Secretly Evil as a result of them, so will's struggle with his impulses & nature vs. him wanting so badly to be a good person were very relatable to me back then too favourite episode/season: this is cheating but specifically the latter halves of seasons 2 & 3. i'm not so big on the first halves bc they're mostly dealing with will in prison & hannibal/bedelia in italy which aren't the most interesting plotlines to me, but 2b (when will is trying to seduce hannibal & has everything with freddie lounds' 'death' and randall tier) & 3b (where hannibal is locked up and it's working its way to will getting him out) are MWAH chef's kiss to me. favourite episode specifically is the wrath of the lamb because how could it not be saddest character death: beverly katz :( i'm still sore about that every time most attractive character: chiyoh & reba from the women, rrrrghghgh probably will from the men but Specifically that fit he was rockin in the chiyoh episodes with the long black coat and popped collar and gloves that was so evil pirate looking

send me a fandom !

[nomoresleep]

okey i kind of agree but i think their could be several readings and the actual point is more will became violent because he fell in love with hannibal and he has very high levels of empathy. And him breaking out hannibal from prison is him choosing love over morals. (This is so queer-coded!!! I love it!)

( i also think maybe thats what op said but i just had this thought and wanted to write it down)

Let me elaborate. You generally care more for people your close with/ love then complete strangers and even though will can understand (every)anybody he can't let himself care for (every)anybody because that would break him (this is why he self-isolates in the beginning of the show.)

But in season 1 he cant help but start caring for hannibal because hannibal not only establishes himself as a safety net but he also, just, gets him.

Like the very first scene they are on screen together hannibal full on psychoanalyzes the shit out of will and will looks genuinely scared because everything hannibal says is right and He leaves immediately.

But due the curse of the first season he starts to trust hannibal, in the end hannibal breaks his trust by framing for all the murders etc.

In season 2a will is establishing an equal power dynamic by sending a killer after hannibal therefore showing him you can't fuck with me and in season 2b will is trying to lure hannibal, getting to trust him and is in the process reminded of how he fell in love with hannibal in the first place/ he starts to enjoy killing.

In season 3 will wants to understand hannibal after he left him and in the process not only sees hannibal as who he is but also himself. Because he is a mirror. He picks up on speaking patterns around him (that happens several times but the most noticeable scene i can think of is when hes drinking with margot the first time and shes says :" Did he have it coming?" Will: "What do you think?" Margot: "Can't say i know" And than will says "Neither can I" in a way that sound much more like margot talking than he himself.) He feels the feelings of people around him in almost the same intensity as his own and is very sensitive about it (season 1: when jack realizes his wife probably has cancer and will is (in the end of the episode) just like okey lets sit down and talk)

(i'm just saying that because i read people on here saying he is less emotionally intellegent than hannibal and like have we not seen the same show?? Will is incredibly emotionally intellegent this is why hes so good at manipulation (season 2a))

Okey anyway about season 3a he says to chiyoh that he has never known himself as well as he knows himself when hes with hannibal and thats literally just the definition of love!!

Like you'll always feel more like yourself with people you love than with strangers because they know you and you know them. (I know - you know thing)

Okey i think the point that i'm trying to make is will is not an inherently morally bad person like hannibal who was just kind of born with this disposition (i would probably say an anti social personality disorder combined with god complex and psychological trauma that resulted in his habit of just sometimes killing people who are rude (the only morals he cares about are aesthetic ones) anyways i'm losing track..) but he becomes a morally bad person for loving hannibal and therefore kind of adapting his habits (sometimes killing and eating people)

Again it's so queer coded!! It's basically saying what if love was morally unacceptable by society?

This all very meta and there are obviously several readings but thats just what i got out of it watching the show several times the last half year and reading a lot of analysis online and also with the background knowledge of bryan fuller being gay and saying in interviews (2007 i think) that he wants more authentic gay characters in television.

Anyway i love this show so much because it's so smart and well done!!

The whole plot twist in Hannibal nbc is that in fact Will had a dark side that enjoyed killing not because he was getting into the minds of the killers but because that's just how he was inside. That was a part of him that he was repressing and denying. The thought that he could blame it on his job helped but after he meets Hannibal he reaches his full potential. Hannibal sees right through him from the start and helps him accept himself as he really is, promising that they will be alone together, that he won't have to endure everything on his own. That they can create their own world and have their own rules, religion and morale. And I think that is wonderful

[tethered-heartstrings]

uh this is gonna be nsfw…

bryan fuller said that hannibal has an overactive cowper’s gland. i had to look it up. it means he produces a lot of cum. and every day i wish bryan fuller would just shut the fuck up. i hate him i hate him 😭😭😭😭😭

There’s a lot to unpack here. 

First, I don’t put a lot of stock in what Fuller says most of the time. I also find it weird he feels the need to talk about that kind of thing at all. Tbh, of all the things I have heard him say, this is not the worst.

Secondly, I don’t know exactly what he said regarding Hannibal’s anatomy. But the bulbourethral gland (fuck calling anatomy after a bunch of dead white men) is responsible for pre-ejaculate fluid, not semen. Semen is composed of multiple different things, but the purpose of bulbourethral fluids is to neutralize the pH of the urethra as well as lubricate the pathway because sperm are sensitive to the environment, especially in regards to acidity. Other fluids in semen help to basify the environment of the vagina to increase sperm survival, but that’s a different conversation.

If you look at the average percentage of what fluids/components make up the fluids released during arousal etc., bulbourethral glands make up a very small portion. Majority comes from seminal vesicles and the prostate. So having overactive bulbourethral glands has no say in how much ejaculate the cannibal makes, but how much pre-ejaculate.

[nonus-cinaedus]

i don't know if anyone is as in-awe as they should be about the fact that nbc hannibal exists. bryan fuller went to nbc and said "i want to adapt these hannibal novels to tv" and nbc said "sure why the fuck not" and then bryan fuller went and wrote about hannibal unlocking an unstable fbi investigator's desire to kill bite maim cannibalize etc and then also made them have an insatiable desire to fuck each other. we are lucky enough to live in this world people why are we not celebrating this

[floggingink]

OH HERE WE GO LADIES IT’S RIVERDALE, CHAPTER EIGHTY: “Purgatorio”

I’m tuning in to be VERY entertained on the grounds that I missed almost the entirety of S4 and will not understand anything

we open with an incredible analogue comparing the football team to the Army, as men do construct rituals: football players get blown into the sky, etc., in a heartrending mash-up of Archie’s innocence + the American ideal/expectations/pipeline of masculinity

Archie Company is decked out appropriately to storm Hürtgen Forest

that art direction trope where a character’s hearing goes EEEEEEEEEEEEEE after an explosion……...delightful

the Vixens and friends cheering him on from the sidelines as if Archie can only process his unprocessable present through the lens of his past………...hits the spot

distressingly wood-based rifles for our purposes

Archie > Dawson: I don’t mind telling you I felt emotion upon Archie hoisting his war buddy over his shoulders to that quadruple-toned “Chivalric Archie Using His Strength for Good” tune, like when he broke his whole hand busting Cheryl out of Sweetwater River

WHEN HE SAW HIRAM LODGE, I’M TELLING YOU! 

Hiram’s dragon-scale gloves? absolutely savory; he would

“Yonkers” is one of those New York place names I don’t totally buy is real (Poughkeepsie is another)

the sepia-toned light in this hospital room rings true judging by all the Captain America fanfiction I’ve read; I also like the mint-colored hand towels draped on Archie’s bedframe bought, one assumes, using the Department of Defense’s Kohl’s Cash

Archie made Sergeant, which is the best ranking for a fictional character: important enough that they can be a leader, get into trouble; low-profile enough that you don’t have to write them in the room making terrible decisions; probably won’t die immediately, as a Captain or Private might be

Fifth period is AP English: Archie reads A Farewell to Arms to Corporal Jackson, a WWI novel by Hemingway that Jug definitely turned him onto

Christ, Archie looks good in that on-leave jacket thing

I like Jackson’s subtle graph paper-print hospital gown

Gay?!: was Jackson in love with Archie? is he gonna bus to Riverdale once he’s off his pain meds? RAS, is that you in there?

God you know I love that haunted-ass Exorcist wooden bench bus light lighting

how long has the WW been relocated under Pop’s??? I do NOT know what happened to La Bonne Nuit

Sexy, aesthetic Southside: Fangs’ hair? his Tony Stark glasses? the girls’ “I’m a Slave 4 U” Burmese pythons? Toni’s headdress and immaculate glossed lip? 

Sixth period is Intro to Film: the only part of From Dusk till Dawn I’ve seen is Salma Hayek putting her toe in Quentin Tarantino’s mouth but judging from that I figure I’d like the rest 

The female gaze: Jesus Sweet Pea still looks good

Toni’s stage is flanked by twin pillars of melting candles and I would like someone to track those down for my bathroom

if they lay one hand on Pop Tate…

Betty appears to be, on her own, running the FBI training course. Betty is such a freak

Betty’s FBI-appointed psychologist is “Dr. Starling,” wears a great yellow blouse; Betty eats what appears to be a mini-sized Milky Way

her blond FBI trainer-boyfriend (uh) Glen appears to be an unholy fusion of Jimmi Simpson and that one actor with brown hair and really sharp light eyes whose acting credits I can’t think of right now, you know who I’m talking about (not the guy from Vampire Diaries)

I quite like her patterned blouse and I hate his yellow (gold?!) and blue tie

Please protect Betty: obviously we stan the Silence of the Lambs shit even as it remains infuriating Bryan Fuller couldn’t get his hands in it

Betty’s cat’s crying was so disturbingly baby-like that I had to leave the room once I realized it was in fact a cat

I’ve watched the Elisa Lam tape too many times in recent hours to handle this hallway shot

REALLY GROSS LICKING NOISES

the Trash Bag Killer coming at her was scary :(

Betty’s lovely blue knit cardi with the puffed sleeves!

50 Shades of Betty: clearing her throat before the doctor quite finishes her sentence—Lili Reinhart continues to be great at conveying “slightly perturbing subterranean tension”

was Charles a serial killer too??? oh damn!

Betty has been successfully holding off giving Glen a key to her place until now, an era that must come to a close

fellas, “Do I at least get a kiss?” is a bad move

Veronica was rich: Veronica’s new digs: exposed brick, bougiely avant-garde chandelier; possibly an elevator door right there behind the dude?

Veronica has married Hiram, to no one’s surprise

Chadwick looks like Jimmi Simpson and brunet Evan Peters plus a jaw

Veronica’s single-puffled-sleeved gown…..madamn (she has absolutely been taking secret birth control pills)

Summer + Blair = Veronica: of course Veronica would be great at Howard Ratner’s job; I MUST know what “specialty showcase haute couture offense” Vinnie has committed

T-Dubbs’ green jacket

Veronica pretended she was working at like, a department store? but she MISSED the EDGE post-day-trading

their apartment is so expensive that their bedroom is totally exposed

oh my god, Hermione

Best costume bit: please get me these satiny green high-waisted slacks?! and ugh her blouse has shoulder tassels……..she’s flourishing

“That’s threatening to an alpha like Chad.”

yes, they have a private elevator. fine.

Glen and Chad get their ties from the same Men’s Warehouse

“When that helicopter went down on the way to Martha’s Vineyard…”

you know kissing is 4-real when one person cups their hand to the back of the other person’s neck all close

I don’t understand the drop of the Glamergé egg but I appreciate that there is one and that Veronica is like, get this the fuck out of my house

Veronica’s shiny cropped tweed two-piece, Yvonne’s weird feathery coat that matches her bf’s shirt (you know she’s supposed to be “too much” because she’s got big hoop earrings)

God, Jughead is next and I’m not gonna be able to handle it

OH GOD IT’S SO MUCH WORSE THAN I THOUGHT

Alphabet City?! the piano?? the fucking East Coast Beat typewriter shit—the day robe? I’m—READING CLUBMASTERS? FORSYTHE???

OH GOD HE’S DATING ANOTHER WRITER (she has nice pants)

Jughead eats: “that place you like” is a HOT DOG STAND in the middle of SOME GRASS

I’ve seen Brick like thirty times: Jughead wears high-ankle light blue jeans, grey socks, and spectators that blend to create the illusion of wading boots. I’m going to commit a crime

Jughead doubts it: “So did Kerouac. And Hemingway. And Fitzgerald.” 

fuck yes I love Floundering Jughead, and his Pushy Agent who pronounces “career” like “Korea,” and the continuing tradition of Jughead getting kicked out of his house

I like Literary Grifter’s sweater

the Brat Pack, and most of the Rat Pack for that matter, were actors, but I assume RAS couldn’t resist the rhyme 

I was 100% afraid we were about to learn Cora was an uncomfortably-young undergrad

the musical cue as she reaches into her bag is absolutely as if she’s taking out a gun, and it might as well be! it’s the scariest thing in NYC: an unpublished manuscript

showrunners doing a classic I Love Lucy job partially concealing Vanessa Morgan’s pregnancy via medium close-ups, draping black clothes

Cheryl slowly turning to ask if doesn’t she look okay 10/10 icon

Cheryl’s pins: she has either a tiny spider or maybe a tick

Cheryl’s sheaths: the lacy red thing, amazing

why is Cheryl’s left hand gloved?

Cheryl’s a chaos angel from hell: Cheryl’s going to forge a Rembrandt, which unfortunately means she’s my favorite person on the planet (she does not look happy about doing this)

btw is Nana Rose an Immortal?

please tell me about Toni’s eyelashes

EXTREMELY HAUNTED DOLL?!

“Damn good coffee”: Archie’s earnest “Where are people gonna sit for the bus?” slayed me

fuck YEAH Ghoulies party house! terrible music but really good skull spray paint art

Jug looks LOW lol

Veronica’s blouse + buttons, impeccable

I’m writing a scene where it’s gay.: Tabitha/Squeaky

the hellscape semi’s red backlighting and its skeleton’s red eyes

I like Linette’s glossy bomber!

the trucker who’s about to kill her can’t also be the Trash Bag Killer….truckers have to stick to too much of a schedule….but he could be Betty’s meandering serial

I loved this episode

NEXT WEEK: Archie brings the FBI down on some people paying their rent :(

[queerhannibal]

I can't be more in agreement with you??? I feel like fuller is now too afraid. Like if he got the show back he wouldn't want to loose it.... So he'd do more of the same, which isn't what fans want! A lot of why we like this show is development and change from. Hannibal and Will. Will being put of his mind makes NO sense. He just Became why would he be? Hannibal manipulating Will makes a little more sense but like.... SNOOZE. We've already been here.

Idk about your opinion on this but... I'm actually really glad now that they didn't say there's gonna be a renewal. I just don't know if Fuller would go anywhere interesting with it, though he did great in the past. And I know this is a matter of opinion but a lot of fans don't see Will as straight. Actually his comments on that didn't really bother me bc Fuller is gay himself and has many queer characters (I'm not always happy with how he TREATS them but mostly yes). But it was such a STRANGE

thing to say given that they've said many times that it's a love story etc. And actually yes I do think some confirmation of this is important to queer fans like me watching the show and yes preferably a sex scene and no I don't understand why NOT. why is that NOT on the to do list? Why specifically does he feel like they don't need a scene when Will and Hannibal slept with so many other people like I'm gonna need an explanation better than that. I just hate so much that sex scenes in general

are fine until it's Will and Hannibal then it's "not needed"?????? Like were the other ones "needed???" Please explain, Fuller. Anyway I guess my point is- thanks so much for the great work up until now, I don't need season 4, and I will make due with fics since everyone seems to understand these characters better than Fuller does, even Mads.

“Thanks for the great work up until now, I don’t need season 4″ is my exact attitude with regard to the whole thing tbh

It really seems like Bryan just wants to retread old ground and imo the ONLY reason that I would want a s4 is so we could see hannigram actually become an explicitly sexual relationship onscreen—it seems WILD to me to suggest that that’s “not needed”. If the relationship is canon as he has always insisted, why would it be not needed??? Why would they not take it there???

We’ve seen both of them have sex with other people so it’s not like either of them is ace in the sense of not liking sex, and even if they were not actively sexually attracted to each other it seems strange to make them have a canon romantic relationship as people who do both enjoy sex and not have them have sex with each other???

I support saying that Hannibal wouldn’t fuck Will unless Will could give proper consent, bc obviously, but why would Will not consent at this point? Why would they write a story in which Will was not in a place to consent?? Having Will be crazy or whatever is such a ridiculous idea when he was so self-assured and certain in himself throughout the finale. I can’t imagine the Will who said “it’s beautiful” not accepting the new life with Hannibal post-fall and I think it seems silly to make him go mad with bloodlust or something??

It would be a lot more interesting to see him try to navigate a relationship with Hannibal from a position of relative sanity!!! I want to see how they would interact with each other from a place where they were both trying to actually make it work!!! There are so many barriers for them to surmount in terms of intimacy and trust and I think it would be super cool to watch them navigate those while also navigating being on the run and their wounds and things!!!

We’ve all written so many takes on that and I love that!!! It’s so much fun to explore that!!! And I really don’t think anything they could possibly actually make at this point would ever stand up to the thousands of fics we’ve all written, even if Bryan did understand the characters, which he obviously does not

[youghvaudough]

Rewatched Hannibal Recently...

... here are some random thoughts brain chips on the third season

watch out for a text wall it's a doozy down under

this rewatching I finally realized the first half of this season Hannibal was basically like “I’m touring Europe with Bedelia one last time before I check myself into jail so I can see my bf often”

Will must’ve been real good at arts and crafts. He made a whole ass butterfly?bee?dragonfly?firefly man display out of shattered wine bottles and garbage from a basement basically

Also how did he not cut his hands with the glass???? He had leather gloves sure but it’s not like those are cut resistant?????? Does he have cut-resistant leather gloves???????

In Hannibal Rising Chiyoh is Hanni’s aunt’s lady-in-waiting (?) and was described as being about his age; if we’re going by that, she’s the same age as him in the show, which, ughhhhhh, let’s just say really really plays into the idea of us Asians not raisining (not mad at all; Tao Okamoto is so beautiful im gay as HELL —)

Bedelia: you’re in love with Will Graham and also leave me alone plz can I stop finishing murders on your behalf now

Hannibal was remarkably off his killing game at the end of the second season (or just really on his planning game) like NO ONE except for poor Abigail is dead by the 3rd season

Thinking about the filming of some scenes is so funny like: 

the crew carrying leather arm chairs and fancy glass side tables into the middle of some woods for a single shot

Bryan Fuller being like “ughhhh can I get a membrane-like sheet over this macro lens so I can film it bring sliced open like its will’s stomach skin” 

“also I need three thousand gallons of fake blood for some cool reverse drip shots”

everyone: Will help us catch Hannibal you must hate him so much right???? Will: busy imagining alternate reality where he and Hannibal actually worked it out at the end of the 2nd season

Will: tries his damndest to ignore everyone telling him he and Hannibal are in love while being very much smitten

Mason: talks religious mumbo jumbo  Alana after her bi awakening: *choke stare

the only saving grace for Jack Crawford is how much he’s the “I love my wife” trope

Frederic: ...why does no one wanna help me with Hannibal hunting when I go a-knocking but when Will does it everyone’s with him????????? What’d I do

No one:     Bryan Fuller: I NEED SOME SNAIL FUCKING SHOTS HERE

Bedelia: i feel like I’m your diet Will Graham Hannibal: what? no *continues to talk about how special Will Graham is and how no one will be his equal basically

WOAH question on Chiyoh so did Hannibal ~literally~ taxidermy her in time with some cannibal magic & that’s why she looks about, I don’t know, in her twenties still ?????? /s

Bryan Fuller: NOW I NEED TO OPEN AN OLD PAYPHONE FOR AN INTERIOR SHOT

Chiyoh: he’s good looking but dumb about Hannibal so 

I’ll kiss him

then push him off the train

(hopefully dude’ll be warned but also finally learn how to gay)

Bryan Fuller: ARE YOU MISSING SOME SLOW MOTION SHOTS OF HUGH DANCY FLIPPING OF THE TRAIN IN YOUR LIFE? ALWAYS

how did Mason and Pazzi achieve high resolution uninterrupted overseas video chat with the front camera of Apple laptops????? the power of wealth????? whenever I call my mom my phone turns into a potato pretty much

the jack v hannibal fight was the ultimate “I luh my dead wife” man v “I just need to stay alive and go meet my boyfriend” man fight

Bedelia: I know what your goodbye is; I know what you wanna do to Will and you’re in love with the dude. No thanks I’ll yeet myself outta here

“waving your uterus around like a weapon” how iconic

Dolce will forever go down in cinematic history there I said it. Nothing tops the mirroring scars, the downright sensual romantic dialogue in front of a fucking Botticelli, this 水乳交融 of two minds (can’t find a good enough translation other than maybe “melding”), one of the weirdest most kaleidoscope-forward lesbian sex scene of all times, a lot of overlapping orgasm faces, reflexive hugs and pats of comfort, weirdly timed lip-lickings, etc etc

At least Mason recognizes how good looking Will’s is lmao even with all the burnt penis talk on the table

“He’s looking very dry a little moisturizer please” Mason your gay is showing

“It’s dangerous getting exactly what you want” yeah we got this season of Hannibal and then no more of it I’d say you’re right on the money Dr. Lecter

Alana and Margot helping Hannibal and Will: LGBT solidarity at its finest

dumbest thing mason did was probably pissing off Margot

So basically Chiyoh is made of a stable metal element between iron and silver that’s why she doesn’t age?????? /s

maybe “I found you in my mind palace” can be our “always”

I remember the first time I watched Digestivo and I was so worried Hannibal’s gonna finish eating Will or take off or continue into the book silence of the lamb arc or something after Will basically went “I won’t go looking for you at all bye bitch where my dogs at” so imagine my fucking delight ecstasy when Hannibal threw himself at the FBI just so Will can always find him. I cried buckets and became a devout Bryan Fuller STAN that day

Chiyoh: fuck this shit im out; don’t wanna protect this idiot boy with luv no mo

Molly: weirdly familiar sharp features, sand-blond hair, husky sultry deeper voice hmmmmmmmmm guess WHAT

...but she actually likes doggos so 

Bryan Fuller: HUGH DANCY. COVERED IN BLOOD. NAKED. UNDER THE MOONLIGHT. NOW

Will gives Bedelia SO MUCH SHIT about using Hannibal as a means to fame that he almost forgets how possessive  protective of Hanni this makes him look

Bedelia: calm yo ass do you know how many “Will is special you’ll never be him” talks I’ve been in with Hannibal as the main lecturer?????

Bedelia: did you go visit him Will: ...yeah Bedelia: whelp fuck my leg is about good as steak any day now

An odd detail I remember about this Will/Bedelia interaction was Bryan Fuller saying in some interview (probably) that this is basically wife confronting mistress; you know who’s which

when Reba was touching the tiger that vet guy must’ve stayed in the room right??? for safety and stuff??? guy must’ve had the weirdest time just seeing Francis freak the fuck out watching Reba

also Reba deserves all the nice things in the world; Francis though an overall shitty person can recognize beauty

...wait i take it back dude said Will was ugly (ok he said “not very handsome” but) like bitch where

for a series with pretty good sfx that teeth scene in 310 was fake as f---

will and bedelia taking shots at each other verbally cracks me tf up like is this the psychology people’s version of “you suck” “uno reverse”

i have to keep reminding myself that this is a crime show that actually aired on national tv bc these dialogues mama??? downright telenovela. Bryan Fuller has a point when he described them as wife and mistress

Bedelia: I would’ve preferred to be bluebeard’s last wife Will: challenge accepted

i cannot stress this enough REBA DESERVES BETTER she seems like the nicest, most well-meaning person ever and deserves to be cherished like so

it's so strange, getting everything that you want; take Will’s slow-burn-esque realization of Hannibal’s twisted affections for example

Bryan Fuller: NOW GIVE ME A CLOSE UP OF ICE SUCKING

So  basically Hannibal’s attitude is “if I can’t be a constant fixture in his life I’ll be on his mind”

Hannibal is always a sucker for some good will ehhhh

Hannibal, in a police vehicle: get in Will we’re going cliff-diving dragon hunting; no but the actual line is just as cheesy geez hanni u smooth man-eater

The Bloom-Vergers look straight out of some gothic family catalog (if those exist)

like i will spare y’all the contrived complements of the Wrath of the Lamb bc like fucking hells mate there's no straight explanation for this finale

that’s it thanks for reading mates hannigram forever also someday some wealthy person will revive this I'm sure and we’ll rejoice then

[truempathy]

i love nbc han/nibal so goddamn much

[mask131]

I was thinking about American Gods...

And I just discovered that, one of the reasons Bryan Fuller and Michael Green left the show was tbecause of  disagreements with Neil Gaiman about the direction they wanted to take the show to.

And it made me think back a bit... I mean, I know a lot of people will be “Oh, Neil Gaiman is overcontrolling, Neil Gaiman doesn’t want anything to be changed from his book” etc... But I remembered one thing, back in the first season, a behind-the-scene story, that made me doubt the ability of Fuller and Green to adapt the story.

Remember how originally, they wanted Shadow to agree to Audrey’s proposition? That, according to them, since he was in prison for a long time, he should agree to have sex with her wife’s best friend on her grave, out of revenge and lust?

Everyone agrees that, it would have completely changed Shadow’s character, and that Neil Gaiman did a good thing making them change the ending of the scene. I learned about it after the first episode aired, so I quickly forgot it afterward, because the rest of the show was beautiful. The Old Gods were wonderful, the New Gods were a delight, and the show was really cool (even though the ending felt a bit short-cut, however the behind the scene situation explains everything) 

But now, this comes back in my mind, and I’m wondering if the changes they wanted to bring to the story were of this kind. 

Well, we’ll never know. 

But, like I said, I have at least one reason to enjoy these guys departure : the “fucks”. I said it before, and I’ll say it again, while their writing could be brilliant sometimes, the amount of “fuck” were making me uncomfortable and spoiling the fun for me. Seriously, why must you have all the characters use “fuck”? I don’t think there is one episode without the word “fuck” in it. And while the over-use of fuck may fit some characters (like the Technical Boy, who is after all the embodiment of Angry and Violet Internet), sometimes you just wonder “Why can’t they use another word, or another term, or another expression?”. It was really annoying in the end. 

But maybe it’s just because I’m French, so I have a more... “outside” and “literal” point of view about English language (or should I said point of hearing?)

Anyway, the new trailers look very good. I have good hopes for the rest of the show, and even though the first scene released left me... wondering about some things, I have some hopes for this new season. 

[bakasara]

Hannibal Rewatch musings / 2x05 + 2x06 + 2x07

❀ Back to 2x03 for a second, it was my shipper starting point!!!

The timeline is, I watch s1 as it airs, love it, decide I’ll watch s2. Some people are shipping Will and Hannibal, the name ‘hannigram’ is born, I love the idea of a friendship but I don’t ship them and I don’t think the show has proved it has any plans for it either. S2 airs, I’m busy, I postpone it. S2 ends, there’s a lot of buzz, people suddenly are saying this ship is different, that it got serious, that Bryan Fuller is the real deal, and the like. I get curious - those people are probably blowing it out of proportion, but I decide I’m starting s2 right now and at least I’ll see what all this talk is about.

Then I get to 2x03. And I see this:

And a few moments later, when the FBI is examining the crime scene, it’s turned to this:

(not cropped btw, it’s a detail shot). AND I SCREAMED INTERNALLY. Nobody tipped that scale deliberately, it was the narrative doing it, as in, a direction choice. So this wasn’t a character trying to direct some subtextual meaning to another character, it was  - potentially - the narrative trying to direct a subtextual meaning at us. Now in theory, the copycat who killed the bailiff also killed the judge, but the display and the tipped scale made no sense, because the copycat hadn’t been shown to us moping at his desk, waiting for Will, conflicted between the rational course of action needed to protect himself from being found, aka letting Will be sentenced, and the far-from-rational desire to set Will free so Will would still be in his life.

I knew this had to be Hannibal, and I also knew right then that if it got confirmed that the copycat killed the bailiff, but the Ripper killed the judge, then all those people claiming there was serious and deliberate subtext might’ve been onto something! And it got confirmed in the next few episodes. Repeatedly. Add the sudden repeated imagery of love and hearts, and I was in. Then I got to 2x08 and that’s when I started not believing my fucking eyes, but that was the next phase XD

❀ Will growing antlers after the first time he attempts to murder someone is one of my favorite moments in the show. And that person is none other than Hannibal, obviously...

Never thought of it in these terms but, up to Francis, Will does have a MO and it's murder-by-proxy? That's two attempted murders and a succesful one, and after the succesful one he displayed the body. Of course Will is not directly at fault for any of these (attempted) murders as in he never carried out the actions but he knows, with himself, that he carefully and deliberately orchestrated them with that goal in mind.

Not only it's a MO, it's a particularly slippery and devious one. He might've suppressed what he was trying to get Chilton into, but he wasn't lying to himself the other two times. (Still, the issue was finally getting his hands dirty, because that kind of MO doesn't just let him get away with it, it lets him get away with confronting himself with it fully for what it is.)

❀ That one conversation between Will and Hannibal having an argument in the visiting room that's all like 'well if the Ripper were here then I would tell that hypothetical person that etc.' and once you strip it of all that rhetoric side of it, it basically goes 'I'm mad you tried to get me killed??' 'well I'm mad you killed bev that's why I tried to get you killed??' 'well bitch I killed bev to warn you to stop trying to expose me?!?' 'WELL maybe you got what was coming to you then?!?' 'WELL THEN you wouldn't want anything to happen to alana would you????'

lol i hate it when the parents fight and by that i mean i love it

❀ Flowers/tree man episode. What is it with Hannibal taking it out on Will expy's when he feels betrayed by something big Will did?

❀ Chilton asks Will why Hannibal didn’t just kill him and Will says it’s because Hannibal wants to be his friend. I love that Will can understand that clearly about Hannibal but also I love being reminded that he's already figured this out about Hannibal as early as the first half of s2 - that’s not a point of contention. So any further detailing later is not because Will isn’t sure about the general concept of Hannibal wanting to be his friend, it’s because he wants the specifics for the particular relevance they have. Y’know?

❀ lmao I love when Chilton gets framed, finds out Will called Jack, and he points a gun point blank at Will, trying to look threatening. And Will is like

❀ “You changed me”. THERE’s Checkov’s dialogue. We’re already primed to look for reciprocity, because balancing the scale has been laid out as a major theme, so this like is definitely a Chekov’s gun, as in ‘but what about the other way around?’ And now... we wait.

❀ Will all slicked up at Hannibal’s door. Could’ve punched hannibal straight in the dick and hannibal would’ve been like yes please come in

[keiiro]

Explaining myself just for myself bc I felt like I needed to... o)--( No one will read this but I have no one to rant to abt this td;lr so.

From S1, I’ve said multiple times that I’m in Voltron mostly for Sheith, that VLD isn’t usually the type of show I like to watch. I simply have a preference for dark and complicated dramas/stories. I don’t like cartoons much, actually ^^;; I’m sorry, but a show really has to grab me with its writing or characters for me to be invested in it even a little without me having a ship there. (I uh, hyperfocus on romance. . v.;; I don’t ignore plot tho I swear.. I mean if it’s objectively well written (side-eyes naruto and 500 other series)) Like Steins;Gate. FMA. Skip Beat. Inception. etc. In my case, my criticisms about the show, i.e. the pacing, were always there since S1. I don’t think I like... betrayed LM or JDS by being hurt and having such a negative outlook on this. I think my comments were fair.

Before this.

I was in the Sherlock fandom, knee-deep in TJLC (The Johnlock Conspiracy, yes, humilating, I know, but the sad thing is the real S4 that was written was so bad that we thought it unthinkable that it would be... like that trashfire). I remember near the end of an episode of S4, before the other eps aired, I really liked this one popular blogger. Pearl something. She was really good at making me feel more relieved in the bigger plan. Even though already with episode 1, I was already incredibly disappointed in the writing of S4 and regretted every time I defended S3. The sister’s storyline. Was so. Bad. There were so many plot holes. I don’t even. Pearl--She sent the message to have faith. And as a result I crashed incredibly hard, 40x worse than Shiro’s retirement. Her account ended up hacked and she went MIA. I was there through Apple Tree Yard, being sent the message that apparently two middle aged het ppl hooking up within 15 minutes of meeting and having 5 mins of bad sex that she made sound like he rocked her world but it was just so goddamn sad--and apparently sexual assault--is more valid than a canonized mlm couple. Though really, even if they did, since S3 would still be an incredible disappointment. (the cases in the wedding ep were so, so dumb) Just because even though I knew there wouldn’t be a fourth episode, I was in so much shock I just. ...I was there for the probably-troll fansite for “the lost episode” with friggin Sherlock scripts hidden in the coding. The horror stories go on.

Before that, I was in the Naruto fandom, as a hardass SasuNaru fan. Everyone getting hetmarried at the end was a real shoot in the fucking face, this coming from someone who also likes NaruHina. I. My faith in authors. I just. Yeah, that kerplunked.

I decided to give the benefit of the doubt to Isayama Hajime (Attack on Titan). I used to defend him, pointing out and believing his Imperialistic comments were mistranslated or blown out of proportion. :) Then he said the Chinese and Koreans lives were bettered because of Japanese takeover. Which I ignored because I love Eruri. I don’t care for the writing of AOT/SNK, never really had. I tried to have faith in him. And then apparently he’s now using Jewish WW2 imagery in the series in a way that’s. ........ Basically, it’s been debated whether this is anti-semitic. Idk. I’m not touching that trashfire outside of Levi remembering Erwin frames anymore. So yeah, faith in yams was DIRT. Oh, and then Erwin died. Which hurt much, much worse than this with Shiro, and would’ve hurt more even had Shiro died.

I believed in Bryan Fuller, a lot. He still supports Hannigram fanzines and literally wears shirts of them making out. He told a beautiful, dark mlm romance and I. It didn’t stop him from calling their relationship a “bromance”. He gave no explanation and I was very. Every time it felt a little no-homo’d, I bit the inside of my cheek.

I was in the Supernatural fandom, and I loved Destiel terribly so and I’m not. even. going to start.

Death Note, Piano no Mori, Sam Esmail re: Mr. Robot, goddamn Yana Toboso, Magi, X-Men, many others.

I mainly stan a pairing in the D.Gray-man fandom, and I can’t. Over many years, the mangaka has said things/put things in in a certain way that I decided to overlook. Stereotypical transphobic “okama” inserts. The novel she approved where it was said a guy’s first kiss didn’t count because it was with a guy. Um. Frankly, I didn’t like the Alma arc...... at all. I found that it was mostly tell and not show w/ Kanda and past!Alma’s romance.... and I’m just like........ he was white in his past life his was completely different... and they were lovers in their past lives but their portrayal in their present lives are only as friends? Um. ok I’m rambling and there’s a lot of stuff too but. My point is, I don’t expect anything of her anymore. I don’t hate her, I just don’t respect her as much anymore. I don’t have faith in her anymore to write the absolute best, and she proves me right in recent chapters quite a bit. I’m still quite mixed-feelings there. (Also, I know a lot of people made fun of kls for being so emotionally dependent on kl, but. I’ve been stanning Yullen since 2006. Over ten years. It is literally my life. It’s the main reason if not the only that I’m still alive. The other is my merch. Once I tomb my merch, sayounara Earth.)

I don’t expect authors to be perfect but. I think it’s reasonable for me to not be able to have faith here. Most of the times I held onto faith, it was crushed. I already had faith in that they’d return everyone to their original lions, because honestly I wanted them at each other’s side while saving the world together, in a way that I found most beautiful. I mean, the only thing that could beat that tbh is Shiro getting his own mecha, which I find unlikely. Oriande arc was done already and the white lion accepted Allura and the comic version was just a Robeast, so I found it very unlikely that he would pilot white. 

I don’t really know if this is all so childish. It’s hard to care about a lot of things when you, well, deal with dark thoughts every day, and I’m such a bad adult that before worrying over worldy issues, I can’t. even help myself. I don’t eat most days. The entire past weeks I’ve felt like passing out. Vomited on monday from nausea. major depressive disorder. been to two psych wards, the first time for a month. chronic headaches, chronic back pain... being 24 without a degree because I still haven’t finished studying the language I even need to get into the school I want mmmmmm I’m pretty worthless, man. Shipping’s my best distraction. Yes, I know it’s not healthy. But it’s either that or me being dead so.

Anyway. I’m just trying to say that I think it’s fair for me to be bitter like this. I personally think I didn’t take it very far, but. I think it’s fair that I/we’re upset.