#but for the complete humans/mortals of ninjago it would just be hella uncomfortable to be forced to live forever
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also imma let u guys in on a little secret. technically oldman lloyd au and transcendent au stem from the same au canon, just diverging very early on. In oldman lloyd the ninja never turn evil like in ruination, events largely play out as some mix of the movie and s2. The god prophecy is still there, and at some point post s11 or so wu reveals fsm's full plans to the ninja because he begins to doubt his father's teachings. This essentially nullifies the whole thing because they know about it, but due to being now pretty well-adjusted adults, they aren't motivated to take up the mantle of gods. Most of them are uncomfortable with the idea of choosing to exist forever. Lloyd eventually gains almost equivalent power to his god counterpart, but remains very much alive (his immortality a natural part of him being oni/dragon). The difference really is just that he had the chance to grow up, and his role - which in oldman lloyd au he has the chance to accept of his own volition - is of a protector, not a god.
#oldman lloyd#transcendent au#ultimately all the transcendent stuff is completely unimportant to oldman lloyd besides the fact that they exist as foils of sorts#this is also why im not a fan of people trying to make the other ninja immortal in this au personally#i already HAVE an au for that and it turns out... immortality has concequences!#oni/dragon hybrids like lloyd and nindroids kind of work on the sort of logic tolkien elves have like#even tho there are aspects of immortality that suck its fine for them bc its their natural state#but for the complete humans/mortals of ninjago it would just be hella uncomfortable to be forced to live forever#the ninja gave up their HUMANITY in transcendent. growing old and dying was part of that humanity#also like sorry but if you think kai SPECIFICALLY would want to live forever u dont understand him like i do#<--- guy who is a kai kinnie
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