#but also they both show the predictable consequences of messing with the milkoviches
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maybe i’m insane for saying this but mandy hitting karen with her car was no worse than mickey (and debbie, kind of) attempting to murder/torture sammi
#i’m not at ALL defending sammi#and karen’s was actually worse because she was still a minor#but also they both show the predictable consequences of messing with the milkoviches#we literally learned not to do this in 1x03#i’m not defending anyone actually#and i was pretty happy when sammi almost died#i’m not trying to talk about morality here#all i’m saying is that people are very shocked by mandy doing this but not all shocked about mickey doing this#as if they weren’t both raised by terry#and as if they both can’t kill#i mean technically they both can’t cus they both failed^ 😭😭#but ykwim#shameless#mickey milkovich#mandy milkovich#debbie gallagher#sammi slott#karen jackson#1x03#3x09#5x11
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