#but also there are still some incredibly cishet people in the industry who don't really extend outside their bubble lmfao
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#no accident to me that so many of the people in bojack's life are casually queer and he never bats an eye idk#casually queer here to me means that the character's queerness is not their sole or most important trait or the focus of their plotline#sharona is the first one to come to mind she was clearly not straight#and like yeah you can make the argument that working in film/theatre means you're going to be surrounded by gays 24/7#but also there are still some incredibly cishet people in the industry who don't really extend outside their bubble lmfao#i always think abt how bojack's reaction to todd coming out is so indicative of him either being super open minded and chill#or already being familiar w the community and the nuances of different identities etc#ALSO. the fact that he was usually dressed in a sailor's uniform as a child#something something gay signaling but especially how traditionally sailor uniforms were seen as feminine#and were only acceptable for very young boys so after a certain age it's no longer appropriate dress#makes you think.#bojack horseman#chatter
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idk if i'm way off the mark on this, but the way some people are responding to that Guillermo del Toro interview about the decline of studio animation is a bit frustrating to me. specifically the bit where he talks about "emoji animation" and how everything is over-animated and pushed too far and things are rarely allowed to not be ultra-cartoony (y'know, because animation always needs to be marketable to children who are never trusted to have attention spans, right?). like, i think he's generally correct about it! but some folks are taking the wrong message away from that.
i've seen people going off about how "soulless" and "corporate" various recent examples are, and talking about these pieces of media as though they're the result of some kind of personal failing or lack of skill/range on the part of the animators, and it's just like. do people realize that's the only animation you're usually allowed to DO in the industry, unless you get incredibly lucky and land yourself on a project/studio that's unusually cool?
when i was in college for animation it was literally drilled into us nonstop that everything had to be pushed more, that exaggeration was not a guideline or a sometimes-treat but a hard rule that always had to be applied regardless of what was going on, because the viewer couldn't be trusted to pick up on subtlety and we sure as hell couldn't be trusted to convey it. you ever wonder why there's such a specific vibe to a lot of self-directed student films, particularly ones that are focused on character acting/interaction or deep emotions and introspection (especially when there's minimal/no dialogue)? it's because for a lot of young animators, they haven't had the freedom to experiment with realism and subtlety up to that point and they're likely not going to have it again for a while (or at all, unless their career path leads to higher positions where they might have more creative direction over the things they work on. which also becomes a lot less likely if they're anything other than a cishet white dude, for what it's worth).
i would LOVE to see more nuanced, realistic, understated motion and acting in animation. i WANT more characters to be able to express what they're feeling through natural body language and facial cues and for scenes to allow me to breathe instead of spelling everything out in giant bold flashing text all the time. what del Toro wants to see changed in the animation industry sounds great, and i hope others join him in seeking to revamp what modern animation is allowed to be.
but as things currently stand, and as they've stood for a long while now, most artists doing the grunt work on the shows and movies you see are completely at the mercy of corporations and networks who have a vested interest in producing a very specific kind of marketable and cost-efficient media all the time. (and by extension that style is ALSO what's taught in most animation schools, because their job more than anything is to grind you down into a perfect little sweatshop worker who will bend over backwards to meet quotas and get your work approved and not question the higher-ups, even if you have little to no personal investment in the projects you're working on, so that the studios who employ you can maintain their good reputations or whatever)
anyways idk what my point was here, this really just sorta became a rant and my views have undoubtedly been coloured by my own personal experiences (this kinda shit is largely why i dropped out before my last year of animation school, for the record).
i guess just be kind to folks in the animation industry? they've had it fucking rough nonstop for well over a century (the majority of them are still not unionized and there's HUGE pushback against doing so in many places). i assure you they are doing their best to infuse the latest uninspired illumination flick or weird spinoff kids' show with literally any amount of soul they can. you don't have to like the stuff that gets produced by any means! be a hater! i'm certainly not gonna stop you. just remember where these creative decisions come from and why these conditions exist, and consider that when YOU watched something and thought "hmm that could've been done better", you can bet your ass someone actually working on it probably thought the same thing but couldn't do anything about it. these things WILL change as the industry itself improves, but in the meantime folks have to pay their rent, and that usually means doing what they're told and working in a way that will minimize revisions and meet quotas so they can keep their jobs. it sucks, but it is what it is.
#buny text#long post#animation#i don't have a rant tag because i don't necessarily want to encourage myself to make posts like this frequently#but this is obviously a touchy subject that's close to home for me and it felt important to get it out#i realize i am on the Getting Super Mad At People Who Make Popular Media website so hopefully this does not bite me in the ass
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But storm if we look at it, according to timeline of k jkkrs have or how jimin said 2315 exactly same number of days from 8 nov 2015 (which is the most convincing moment of that theory for me) and JK posting gcft on 8 Nov 2017 and how we also start to see their dynamic changing around that same timeline it's will be 7 YEARS by this Nov 8th, it all fits perfectly.
But do you think it's possible for a celebrity gay couple, who's in a homophobic country, surrounded by several several other attractive people are together WHOLE 7 YEARS ? And still together ? We aren't taking about normal non celebs like us. These celebs will have new relationships every year and Kpop industry usually have very short lived relationships.
If jikook are queer, bi or pan, won't they want to be with a female too, date and have gfs too ? Or experiment with many attractive people be it from SK or abroad. Especially when they are 2 most sought out idols in industry they for sure will be asked out by multiple people of all genders. It's not so logical to think they are together for so long and are still going on.
Anon. I actually find this SO MUCH worse than the tkkr also in my inbox all day today. Because they just really want me to admit that taekook are boyfriends. Annoying, yes. But ultimately whatever. We have different opinions. This is just homophobia. And that's worse. And you've caught me on a bad day where I've already experienced a jackass who I thought could be a friend, ended up being incredibly biphobic to me. So I'm in no mood. I spend a lot of time on this app talking to people nicely and spending my own mental energy on educating people. But that's not what I'm here for and it's not my job to educate you on your homophobia. So IF that was totally not on purpose nor your intention, I urge you to go educate yourself on WHY everything you said was homophobic. I don't want to deal with that right now. I just want you to reflect. I actually made a post like a year ago about this exact topic. And over that year I've deleted a few other asks, just like this. So if someone wants to go dig through my archive and find that Damn post so I can pin it to my masterlist from now until forever, I would love them forever. I probably should go looking for it at some point eventually anyway.
Or if someone else wants to take this as reblog and do the education work themselves, that would be just fine. And no one butt hurt in my anons after this either. Asking questions is fine, taking on the emotional labor of writing an essay is reply is my choice. I need to go find that damn post where I already did answer something similar and I answered it so damn nicely too. Because the anon seemed so much more geniune. Just really young and confused.
Good lord. Do you go around asking straight women if they also want to be with a female too? Or cishet people in committed relationships if they don't want to *try the otherside*?
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