#but also i wanna keep the drama of him having done that shit so idk….
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the general idea is exactly what it sounds like- clangen, but the leader swiftstar is in a timeloop.
his story started off as many other clangen blogs do, where three kittens start a new clan on their own. but something during swiftnettle’s leader ceremony somehow went… wrong. everytime swiftstar lost a life, time rewinded to the night he became leader.
at first everything was fine. he could undo his old mistakes! he could save his mate snowyslash from dying on the thunderpath, he could make sure shinyember’s kittens lived, his clanmates didnt have to live with the memory of his deaths…. it was all good!!
but then it just kept repeating. and repeating. and repeating.
snowyslash seemed doomed to die young. he and shinyember would always be at odds. any new recruit would still wind up dead before their time. and he had nothing to show for his efforts but the memory of death.
he shifted his goal to trying to break the loops. he hoped itd end after he lost his ninth life. somehow, it didnt. it just kept going. he tried to live to old age and pass naturally. didnt work. die on the first day! didnt work. run away and live as a kittypet! didnt. work.
he became apathetic to his clan, withdrawing from them. he feels detached from personhood having lived several lifetimes, never to progress into starclan, forced to watch everyone around him repeat their mistakes and die.
oh and his dead twin brother alderpaw is his starclan guide and they are very normal brothers very normal siblings who love each other past death and their relationship is so normal :)
btw would you believe me if i said in stars and time had zero bearing on this. ive had this idea since before i even played the game, swiftstars name is a delightful coincidence
once i have time i think im just gonna start posting random stuff related to my clangen timeloop story idea because tbh i do notttt have the bandwidth to make the concept work or create a comic. would wanna do a less ambitious clangen story if i wanted a shot at it (for my first rodeo, anyways)
with my pmd story on main, i get so worried about posting spoilers bc i do wanna tell the story when i can. but i dont see a need to do that here. plus its not so much a constructed “plot” and moreso just a concept where events happen here and there with no real connecting thread besides “swiftstar is in a time loop”
#oh also he realized he was transmasc during the loops so now hes gotta come out every time it resets. goddddd#also if it wasnt clear. this is based on me not saving my clangen file and just repeating this clan’s save over and over to see what changes#and it started bc i was upset that snowyslash kept dying bc i really liked her but then it kept happening and i was like hmmmmmm#also part of why im hesitant to actually make this a story is bc uhhhhh swiftstar kills. like a lot.#hes killed shinyember and hes killed other ppl and he literally killed an apprentice in one file#and i feel like ‘’ohhhh the looper goes insane and just starts killing!’’ is kinda tired#but also i wanna keep the drama of him having done that shit so idk….#anyways i like these guys. id like to flesh out shinyembers deal bc i love her and she should be allowed to kill everyone in the clan#except for her babies#swiftstar timeloop story#<- tag for now#also feel free to send asks….. idk id like the distraction tbh and to do more creative stuff here#rather than be the haterrrrr
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madatowa drama cd notes as someone who has very limited jp knowledge. i am simply using my 4 yrs of high school japanese, google translate, and a dream. just posting this for fun so it’s not like an official translation or anything it’s just basically me describing what’s happening to the best of my ability and also being insane about them
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major events that happened that i could make out as like a tldr
-mada reunited with someone he knew when he was little
-towa learns abt mada’s past, mainly around a guy named “kurahashi”
-mayu eiji and kotarou appearance :D being sillies as always
-two yowie moments. first one in an alleyway second one presumably in their home. both are freak nasty as usual madatowa shenanigans
notes:
track 1
-LOTS of fighting noises in this
-towa and mada have a coffee and say it tastes like shinkoumi. some dudes come up to em and try to fight
track 2+3
-somebody notices them and gives them a job. presumably to fight people
-towa fights some people and it riles him up
-this part has already been translated but i just wanna scream abt it here bc!!!!!! towa brings him and mada into like an alleyway or something and he goes “hit me. it has to be you.” and mada says something like “you really are a lost cause/what am i going to do with you, huh?” hits him n his mouth fills with blood and towa kisses mada to make him taste it dnnsjdjd ❤️
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-they have a quickie in the third track in said alleyway like the freaks they are
track 4
-a character (acquaintance of mada) called him “kei” which was kinda crazy to me since nobody called him that in the vn
-theyre in south america i believe? it’s funny in drama cds when they go to a country outside of japan and still speak japanese
-this character knew mada when he was little??? omg
-KAGA MENTION
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-somebody came up to towa and madarame and said “forget everything you saw/heard today”?!
-there’s a VA in here that lowkey sounds like koujaku dmmd but idk how to check
track 5
-it’s funny how some tracks in here are like 2 minutes and the next one is 20
-dude i forgot how good nitroplus’ like sound effects are these mfs sound like they’re in my ROOM
-towa n mada having a convo abt the previous day. i think they may be arguing slightly? tone feels passive aggressive
-birds chirpin’ and towa’s breathing. he just woke up
-he just said madarame in the softest voice ever… 💔💔
-i think he woke up on their bed and mada left before he did
-towa: where did you go?😕 *track ends*
track 6
-footsteps. towa in a coffee shop once again
-MADA FIGHTING THAT DUDE HE KNEW
-cut back to towa. beep beep boop. towa calling somebody? ITS MAYU KOTAROU AND I THINK EIJI OMGGGGG T__T I MISSED EM
-i missed mayus silly voice
-they keep talking about somebody named “kurahashi” related to mada and kaga
-sasaki and toono mention?
-mayu: did something happen between you and madarame? did you two fight? (in the most teasing lil shit voice ever)
towa: *exhales smoke probably abt to hang up the phone* i’m done. -__-
eiji: HE WAs JUST KIDDIN-
-eiji: mata!! (see you!)
kotarou: mata na.
mayu: mata ne~ ^__^
the difference in tones was cute
-towa walks out of da shop. the dude from before comes up to him and asks if he wants to know what he and mada have been doing
-he like grabs him?? menacing music playing
-ok towa said let me go i think he pushed him up against a wall or something
-this dude is asking towa if he knows abt mada before he joined the takasatogumi. some massive lore bits goin on here (i understand about 20% of it)
-from what i got: madarame and kaga had a promise. lots of talk abt this promise. lots of talk abt madarame’s history with his siblings and takasatogumi. this entire bit is probably really interesting lore wise but i can’t understand most of it…💔 apologies
- enter madarame from the distance to save towa from this dude’s grasp
-he walks away.
-madarame: that guy…what happened?
towa: nothin. we just talked
madarame: really?
towa: yea. (he lyin)
track 7
-they go back home (i think) and enter.
towa sighssss. towa and mada talk time it seems ^__^
-madarame’s voice is so soft when he’s w him…cries
-towa: mentions something abt kurahashi
music: gets Suspenseful
-towa talks abt the stuff that dude told him
-towa ran away into a room?! (once again this would make me more sense if i even understood the weight of that dudes words and the lore of what happened)
track 8 (pretty sure this is the beginning of disc 2? however i’m listening from dlsite so it just shows up as track 8)
-this track is 20 minutes oh god pray for me as i try to even figure out what the hell is happening
-towa goes to see kurahashi and some dude tells him he needs an appt lawl… he lets him in tho
-“you came after all, towa” *suspense music starts*
-there’s a new takasatogumi?¿
-the dude who calls madarame “kei” is here telling him this. actually i think this is kurahashi i’ve just been calling him “the dude” this whole time but maybe it is kurahashi LMFAO i’ll just call him that
-wait the interrogation/euphoria music is playing? they’re still doing this segment in the drama cds omg
-towas voice still remaining the sexiest shit ever god
-IS HE TRYING TO SEDUCE INFORMATION OUT OF HIM or is it just his voice. maybe both
-more lore bits abt mada that i can only get bits n pieces from
-towa provoking da hell out of this mf.
-literally what the HELL is happening some other dude came in i hear clothes rustling and towa said Unhand Me
-HELLO GLASS JUST BROKE THAT SCARED ME WHY ARE NITROPLUS’ SOUND EFFECTS SO REALISTIC
-ITS MADA LMFAKOOK HE BROKE IN AND ASAID “towa. u in here?”
-the guy who sounds like koujaku is back apparently w him. they saved towa :D
-OK WHERE DID EIJI MAYU AND KOTAROU COME FROM I MISSED SOMETHING. i did.
track 9
-more kotarou eiji and mayuuuu. looks like they’re with towa and madarame now
-ok they left lawl
-everything’s all chill now i think that last track was the drama. i can’t wait until somebody translates the whole thing so i can actually understand what da hell happened
-once again their voices when they speak to each other alone are just 💔💔..
-it got a bit intimate at the end there i think i’m abt to hear a secks scene ngl
track 10
-YUP THE JAZZ MUSIC PLAYIN AND THERES KISSIN
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-blood and knife(?) mention oh it’s abt to get real crazy in here
-mada: want me to cut you (non-verbatim ish)
towa: yes…..!!
-i’m punching the air.
-*cut sfx* mada: did that hurt?
towa:… feels good
-towa is such a fucking freak (affectionate) my god
-i think mada is licking the blood up oh my goodnes i’m abt to pass out and i’m only 2 min in
-oh he’s . towas whimpering . i’m normal (yes they’re fucking now)
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-towa: cut me more. i want it to hurt
-mada keeps cutting him and towa keeps doing that little whimper FAWKKKK I CANR
-after they finished
towa: you’re covered in blood.
mada: whose fault is that?
towa: yours, isn’t it?
-ok that just changed me and i am very glad i bought this CD so i can now listen to it for the rest of time.
track 11 (last one!! ;_;)
-outside ambience. towa talking abt da sky
-at the coffee shop again talking w da waiter
-melancholy music playing.. why am i feeling emotional
-if i heard this correctly mada and kaga had coffee together that tasted like what they’re having rn?¿ madarame talking more abt his past but like. fondly i guess
-madarame said something that kind of gagged towa but IDK WHAT IT WASSSS HE SAID “who knows”
ARKTA song once again for the ending! AND IM DONEEE
ok so. i’m not gonna give a full review since i didn’t understand all of what they were saying but i saw on twt some people are going to start translating it? so perhaps i’ll relisten once a translation is out and give my full thoughts but as of now i loved it regardless. i missed towa and madarame a lot i love their dynamic 💔 just a bunch of freaks fighting mfs occasionally and going anywhere but still sticking beside one other. im rly glad i actually bought it because i get to listen to it whenever AND it’ll probably feel like the first time once i finally listen to it along with an eng translation so i actually know wtf is GOING ON
anyways hi and thank u if u read this whole thing. ’m gonna buy the rest of them soon and also make a review post but probably not as long. the reason is because god i MISSED TOWAS VOICE SO MUCH LOL i must hear it again. that is all
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Ok so updated list of my WIPS;
Actually in progress;
- Offal and All (Kakashi's relationship with food throughout the years, mostly told through the eyes of others) I'm activley focusing on this one rn and hoping to post it like, this week actually. It's a mash up of a lot of different tiny Kakashi hc's I've posted about and should be very fun (and depressing, but that's kind of my brand, so.)
- One Step Three Steps chapter 10, it's going well so far actually I just keep writing it at work then being forced to stop bc like. Work. Might go up this week, hopefully
- Chasing Shadows chapter 4, it's like 20% done? Ish? I just need to find the head space to get back to writing it, will go up within the next 2 weeks for sure but idk when exactly. It'll be great tho ur gonna get Hikaku, Fugaku, Shisui, Mikoto, just all the cool Uchiha. Lots of politics, lots of drama, the works
- Itama and the secret senju weed empire fic,,,, it will be long and it will be beautiful which means it'll take me forever to do, sorry
- Magical Girl Izuna AU (my beloved) I got distracted by other projects midway through writing chapter 1 but I'll get there eventually
- Little lab mystery where kid edo-tensei reincarnations of Madara and Tobirama wake up with no memories and immediately stage a jail break
- Nin burger!!!!! Yes this is a real thing yes I meant to post it like the same week I started making it but then I got distracted and didn't. But I swear to fucking GOD I will see it complete. Nin Burger is my favorite real naruto restaurant that is real
- That one oneshot where Madara and Tobirama spend a festival night in the capital together as children, and Madara develops his very first crush on the fox masked boy, but seems to be doomed never to meet him again— till Konoha's first festival is held and he sees a man wearing the very same mask, waiting for him in the crowds. Might not actually finish this one tbh but also maybe I'll save it for tbmd week?? Idk
Considering / Planning;
- Hikaku as the Uchiha clan head after Madara's betrayal comic,,, not an actual fic but I wanna make this so bad. I've written notes for it I just need to get along to drawing it
- Izuna in Wonderland comic, honestly I'll probably end up doing the entire thing in one go one night when I get hit in the face w a brick w motivation. So it'll be a surprise for both u guys and me when I post that! I always do my comics in one go bc I physically can't bring myself to return to art projects if interrupted, which means I tend to do longer ones on my days off where I have literally nothing else to do or distract me, but I haven't had one of those in like. 2 months now. So. But I will soon!! Umm. Maybe.
- Here Before and After Me chapter 2, I'll probably make one eventually but who tf knows when. I have a very specific vision of Kakashi following Tobirama onto the battlefield and scaring the shit out of a very alarmed and confused Izuna
- Tobirama and Izuna's field trip through time and space, I don't think I want to commit to a full fic bc it'd be seriously long and I'm already commiting to Chasing Shadows and One Step Three Steps as my regular update long fics, then the MG Izuna au and Itama fic as my "write it all behind the scenes then post" long fics. One shots only for me, sorry. But I do wanna write a silly one shot of the boys crash landing face first into a konoha council meeting during their field trip
Dropped / Abandoned;
- That one mdtb space mermaid au, rip. Maybe I'll come back to u one day but for now I have a lot to focus on, sorry
- mdtb fish in a pond fic where Tobirama is half spirit and turns into a koifish that Tajima then brings home and tosses into the families koi pond
I think that's everything? I have a shit memory and do everything on my notes app then forget to categorize the notes half the time so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I'd lost smthn else in my like billion different notes.
Those are the important ones tho, so, good enough!
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Um. My personal opinion about the Rise of Red costumes we've seen so far ✨
Red
It's giving major D3 motocycle gear except girlie doesn't have a motorcycle
It's just. Leather. Red leather. Okay, and??
The hood is cool I guess
It's less of an eyesore than Chloe's costume so there's that
Chloe
It's just so bright
There's nothing else going on than that colour
Well that colour and Darling Charming wanna be. I mean. Blue curls. Sword. Association with Wonderland. Self-centered older brother. They're not even trying.
The Red Queen
Honestly one of my favourites
Also single colour but it's darker red in the promo shots we got so it doesn't hurt to look at as much
She kinda slays tbh
The Red Queen
Bubblegum bitch (tm)
Yeah I've got nothing else to add
Queen Cinderella
Do I like the older-version-characters more because they're muted colours and therefore more comfortable to look at?
Well maybe. Sue me.
Uma
Uma is my favourite character from Descendants and I really wanna like her RoR design
But it's just. It's theatre costume y'know? Nothing to get her respect.
I know she would rather die that wear FG-like costumes but still
Tbh it's giving those trashy-but-wannabe-rich 16 yo girls that you'd see smoking behind the school, trying to look older than they are. Up to the giant loop earrings.
I love the glam for her but please. Some moderation?
My favorite of what we've seen is the one from the teaser, that was a good look on her.
Maleficent
She looks like hipster-wanna be that was bullied in middle school
But tbh I'm kinda into it
Proper kinda cringe highschool look, y'know. Proper era too.
Ulyana
Another of my favourite designs
Her outfit seems less chaotic than Uma's
It's still Uma copycat tho but better than I've feared
Hook
Look give than mf a red coat, eyeliner, and a hook and you've got nothing to lose
Kinda missing the madness but since it's probably before a single encounter with the menace known as Peter Pan I am willing to let that slide
They really went for the gentleman pirate vibe and it's cool, on the promo shot it's one of the least costume-y designs
Like yeah he wears this every day. I can totally believe that. Him and Red Queen, yes please, do give me that proper villain drama.
Morgie
Idk what's going on with him
I think I'm bothered by his hair and the scarf. Simply because I find these uncomfortable
Honestly giving same gentle-something vibe as Hook and that's not fine, try to keep it unique pls.
Like, looks like Ulyana actually gets shit done, Hook, ehm, persuades people to do shit for him, and Morgie is just leaning back at chair, siping wine, and going „Marvelous job darling, do keep it up~“
Fairy Godmother & Zelie??
They're still bullied in highschool.
Idk if we got any promoshots of them?? But I feel like they're gonna give the same era as Maleficent and Hades.
Hades
Same cringefail vibe as Maleficent (affectionate) (& the correct era), kinda love that for him tbh
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I started watching Battle of the Writers.
1 l keep remembering the amazing wangxian cosplay the two lead actors did
2. I think the premise is actually great??? And not something you would expect based on the title. I am only on ep 3 but the main characters are all popular webnovelists, the top novelist makes friends with Ob-aum and Ozone (the two who haven't formally been friendly with him yet), and I think the whole premise of authors who discuss writing/whats popular/writing deadlines/fans and public perception is so interesting in how its done so far. Theres a scene where they play a game reading aloud snippets of novels and its an excellent chance to play with scenes within the context of "characters roleplaying." Shan the top novelist is giving me the impression of... unaging immortal or knows hes reincarnated, and remembers lover from a past life/time which was Ob-aum. They havent made any confirmations yet, but I think either Shan genuinely is an immortal a la wuxia now in the modern era (which gives me so many fanfic ideas as i wrote a onceshot xiyao mdzs fic once on that idea and love mdzs modern fics where those characters ARE still the same ones), or he transmigrated from a wuxia universe to ours. Or its something more mundane and idk fated, and they just share dreams, but even the fact an audience can wonder if shan used to know ob-aum is cool to contemplate! Shan is also very afraid of the dark (and i found his reaction somewhat relatable compared to panic attacks ive had) and said something bad happened. My guess is oh-aum first life died in the dark or shan in first wuxia life had some bad shit happen to him. Or the more mundane - and still solid - hes modern life traumatized for the same reasons any of us might be in modern life.
3. It kind of reminds me of Lovely Writer except I much prefer the execution of Battle of the Writers (LW is great! It just wasnt my cup of tea - i didnt like the intense level of sound effects, it was romcom and just a little too fluff executed for me, it just wasnt clicking w me, i loved the dive into what it might be like for an actual novelist and BL actor since i love stories like that which look at Their Own creators possible worlds - School Rumble did rhat with the lead guy, Nozaki Kun did that, a lot of my fave animes do that, a bl jdrama i cant remember the name of did a bl mangaka and the boy band guy he falls for and his fujioshi editor and i loved that show to pieces). Battle of the Writers still has that sort of pulpy romantic comedy bl feel, but the romantic moments music swelling and slow down almost reminds me more of a kdrama romantic drama? Definitely executes the romantic scenes like Word of Honor or Guardian almost, focus on the seriousness and intensity of attraction, of what the characters are thinking, and then the intense music/romantic shot after bouts of comedy comes off a bit more thai romcom because of the surrounding comedy. I enjoy that the tone goes from realistic-including depressing reality (loss of job, online people attacking, online or real stalkers), romance fantasy (the guy who likes ob-aum moving him in, following him for his number - and i LOVE that he said he was riding the bus too because its a way of making the Overly Romantic trope feel more like if a real person did it... and Shan asking for ALL online contacts which also feels realistically awkward and eager. Or Shan offering for Ob-aum to move in, and Ob-aum saying no i dont wanna impose and hanging up - realistically people turn down help even amazing offers out of wanting to do it themselves/fear theyre annoying so i liked that Ob-aum did the realistic thing, and the little talk about rent again adding realism to ground what would otherwise be a fully Exagerated sugar daddy type trope. Making Shan a bit awkward, intense, and have fears humanizes him and makes him an imperfect believable person instead of a perfect-fantasy-romantic option).
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I gotta say, it was lovely to see Satoru reflecting on how much of a piece of shit he was to Y/N. I’m currently drinking a cup full of his tears 🤭
It’s incredibly frustrating that it took him seeing her with Toji, a man that’s treating her right and how she deserves for him to realize how badly he messed up. Seeing these little snippets of how he had done the things to Y/N with Naomi as they’re happening to him with Toji… IT DOESNT FEEL GOOD DOES IT SATORU.
We haven’t seen much of Naomi but her actually referring to herself as Mama when it came to Yui? WHEW. It was one thing for Yui to do it on her own but for Naomi to encourage it had me so annoyed 😭 Luckily Satoru nipped that in the bud. I’m trying really hard to not think poorly of her because maybe she’s just bad at understanding coparenting and Satoru has shown Naomi that he puts her above whatever Y/N wants/thinks so she’s used to that. At the same time I feel like it’s basic empathy to get both parents permission before doing huge things like that… IDK I flip flop between both. What I do know is that it’s Satoru’s responsibility as he’s the father and he needs to advocate for the mother of his child even if his girlfriend doesn’t like it. Also that little dig Toji made (accidentally) that made about disrespecting her parents made her leave 🤭 I got a kick out of that.
But now that Satoru has admitted he’s still in love with Y/N I think he needs to break up with her. It’s unfair of him to lead someone on like that when he’s in love with someone else. Even if he’s not going to try and get back with Y/N, it’s just a terrible thing to do to someone.
Toji and Megumi oh my god they’re so CUTE. I want so much happiness for them 😭 Yui and Megumi being thick as thieves UGH i’m so happy that they’re all happy and if they’re endgame I wish them all the love and happiness oh my god.
Throughout all this, is it bad that I kind of still want them (Satoru and Y/N) to end up together? I know they’re toxic, I know Toji is absolutely lovely but if Satoru works on himself and actively works for Y/N’s forgiveness I’d love to see them happy 😭 sometimes it does take seeing what you’ve missed out to put your ass into gear and fix what’s wrong.
I wonder who he called at the end, I think it’s either Toji or Naomi… and I wonder if either person would tell Y/N or Satoru about the call. Or just stay silent and pretend it didn’t happen to keep things as they are. AHHH THE DRAMA! There’s so much I wanna say but I can’t remember it all so I’ll leave it here!
Kai you absolutely ate this chapter and I thank you so so much for the update. I’m super excited to read the rest! Do you have an estimate for how many chapters you think Sundered is going to be?
Thank you SO much for sharing your work and I hope you have an amazing weekend 🫶🏽 much love!
satoru's indifference regarding Yui calling naomi mama led her to think that it's fine. and the fact that it was never addressed/got avoided in those few weeks gave her the impression that yn sees no problem w it :(( and yeppp, satoru still having feelings for yn while with naomi, i could say it's inevitable, considering how rash and quickly he moved to naomi. it's truly sad :(( as for the call AAAAA we'll know ;> anw thankss so much for this, i enjoyed reading it <33 have a nice day !!
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just watched the found finale and it was weirdly light? like yeah there was a lot going but they didn’t get too deep. after all the annie shit she ends up being dead? really? not to mention trent who didn’t even matter in the grand scheme of things. he’s cute but it’s like the show hates him for it lol. maybe they’re saving the big stuff for season two? also what was with gabi’s big confession scene being silent! i wanted to see all the drama.
Hiya!
The Annie thing pisses me off mainly because, they could've taken it out of the show and it wouldn't have made much of a difference. We know he kidnapped before, but we don't actually delve deep into it. It would've been great to maybe see flashbacks of the first time he kidnapped someone, and how he got to that point. Because that's not something you JUST DO out of nowhere.
Maybe they'll go deeper in S2, but I'm keeping my expectations low.
Poor Marky Mark 😔 I just wanna see my loverboy win. I really do lol But the show hates portraying Gabi as a fully rounded woman capable of wanting romantic love even in the face of massive grief, I guess. I like Mark. I kinda hope he gets a GF in S2 so we can see the loverboy in action. And actually like...loved in return lol .
Lastly, I don't know why they made the confession scene silent. They were going for drama, but it just came off as annoying, because this was THE BIG SECRET that she'd been keeping from her team all season. The LEAST they could've done was let us hear the confession. I feel like this is another case of something being edited for time idk.
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Thinking about the villains I love and why I love them
Iago from Othello (I read the Portuguese edition idk if his name is spelled differently) = never hated someone with such ardent passion before, he was my first true hate, I don't remember shit about the play just how much I hated him. He's my fav. Also if I remember correctly he keeps mocking the other characters for falling for his lies and that's fucking iconic
Jin Guanyao = cunning motherfucker, making a shrine to a god that looks exactly like your mistreated mother? Doing whatever's necessary to gain power? Being forever haunted by the crimes of your father? MODIFYING A "HEALING" SPELL TO HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFECT IN A MUSICAL VERSION OF A POISONING? DUDE. Anyway bastard I love him
Claude Frollo (musical and disney movie) = Bass/Baritone. Those fucking low notes hell yeah Patrick Page (I have no idea who sings in the movie tho) sing those low notes and my life is yours uhhh also he's a fucking hypocrite who can't see his own evil and genuinely thinks he's in the right also did I say he is a fucking HYPOCRITE? Also he has the best songs I don't care
Claude Frollo (book) = I actually didn't finish the book yet but I think he's funny "Medicine? Astrology? Bullshit. Pseudoscience. You know what's the real shit? Alchemy." Yea go on Edward Elric, also he's so done with everything, the cunt, I just know he spends most of the book internally rolling his eyes at people, also he's 35????? Or 38???? He should have been at the club, everyone's life would be so much better if that dude was at the club instead of the monastery (me lying, we all know he would be ruffing people's cups)
Wallace Larson = his midwestern accent is hot and he has some eternal youth thing going on which is also very hot
Scar from lion king = never seen a lion serve more cunt than him, iconic, made my childhood, maybe the kickstarter to my villain appreciations? Welp
Honorable mention to the butcher because he is also very hot and he sings, another honorable mention is for Nie Huaisang because despite not being exactly a villain he is another cunning motherfucker, iconic bitch *snaps fan*
AS A DISCLAIMER
My love for those guys except Larson and Butcher comes from the fact I hate them, I love hating them, I do not agree with their actions nor do I wanna fuck any those guys (except for the butcher) for the love of god
Anyway FMK my favorite villains
Fuck: Iago (for the drama)
Marry: Larson (for the money, trust me)
Kill: Frollo (he deserves it)
God I fuckin love this website I can just ramble my brains out right?
Anyway need to reread Othello cause I can't remember shit about the play lmaaaao I just know I hate that motherfucker
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walks into ur inbox and sets up a big conspiracy board. hi mac :3 do u wanna hear about the hs epilogues and hs2??? well i'm gonna learn u a thing about homed stuck post canon!!!! here we fucking go
ok so idk how much of the epilogues u have read, but basically to sum it up: it was made as a way to make the fans of canon hs angry. like that's kinda the whole point. and it worked because honestly!! they are quite terrible!!! and i do like them a lot but there are a lot of things that were done in bad faith with very little care to original canon, such as: raging misogyny in the form of making jane a hashtag girlboss who sexually abused jake, jade who has no concept of sexual boundaries and was literally framed to be the girl who got in between the gay couple, and like. a lot more. so it's. very far from perfect. honestly a lot of the character writing isn't even that good
but something to keep in mind is that while yes, part of the reason a lot of it is written that way is because hussie just wanted to piss people off, there is kind of a canon reason for it??? dirk went kind of off the rails and absorbed the knowledge of all of his splinters and alternate timeline selves (which for a person who hates himself that much!!! not great!!! would drive a guy a little nuts!!!) and he got a little. bro strider-ish. very manipulative and Not Nice. and he also grabbed control over the entire narrative in the meat timeline so!!! he was just messing with people and trying to convince himself he didn't feel bad about it. sad!
and the candy timeline is controlled by alt!calliope who wanted to make the entire timeline nice and perfect and domestic, a war broke out between trolls and humans, shit hit the fan pretty bad, but the narrative only focuses on the romantic and family drama which says sooooooo much about how alt!callie views the world and these characters. she grew up obsessing over them and now can't process that these are real people who are friends with the alpha timeline version of herself and it drives me bonkers and fucking yonkers GIRL YOU ARE MESSING WITH PEOPLE YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN YOUR BROTHER!!!! since ultimate!dirk absorbed the knowledge and memories of lord english through his absorption of arquiussprite he is basically lord fucking english so him and alt!calliope arguing over the timelines is literally just. two siblings who never grew up pulling their toys/friends back and forth and being upset because they can't get their own way IT'S INSANE
also the prose slaps sometimes. meat page 39 is an especially good example, like the way it capture's ult!dirk's character voice is. AAAAAAUGHJGHGH. god. the feelings of that part. the way he's clearly trying so hard not to care..... but he DOES. and you can TELL. honestly it really captures the tragedy of dirkjake so well. also candy page 14 is just. woagh. idk if you read that part but dirk dies in candy and it's just.... holyyyyy shit dude. it's a bit gorey and it is a suicide so maybe not the best part to read if you're in a bad state of mind but GOD. it just. there's something about it that somehow manages to capture dirk so well in a way. like of course his death would be self inflicted while feeling like he's doing something "right." jesus christ. i can give u links to my favourite pages if u wanna read any of em
ummm ANYWAY. hs2 is a continuation of BOTH timelines. john died in the meat timeline (sad) and got incredibly depressed in the candy timeline (also sad) but also he had a son with roxy in candy!!! his name is harry anderson and lemme tell u i love all of the kids in candy. there's harry, there's vrissy (an ecto clone of vriska adopted by rose and kanaya), tavros crocker-english (jane and jake's kid, the most tragic little guy ever tbh) and um. yiffy. yiffany longstocking lalonde-harley who was born when jade wanted a kid. i'm not gonna get into the whole ordeal of yiffy rn it was so balls to the wall insane if i explained everything i would be here all day. but also VRISKA IS THERE 🎉🎉🎉 and she is the highlight of the candy timeline lemme tell u. she's gonna end the troll/human war maybe. or maybe she'll just fuck around. who knows!!! it's vriska!!! i love her silly unpredictable swag :3
the meat timeline is where i go especially crazy because there is soooo much to analyze here in terms of prose and imagery and just. stuff in general. basically dirk and rose blasted off into space to go create a new intelligent species and introduce them to sburb and make their universe "relevant" again because something just feels Off about their current story, and they can't quite tell what it is so they're fixing it any way they can think of. also terezi tagged along because she was there when john died and she still hasn't found vriska and so she is also depressed so hey why not tag along on this death trip to the stars!!! also a bunch of others are trying to chase them down in their own spaceship, including: dave and karkat, jade, callie, and roxy (who is transmasc in the meat timeline!!!) also davekat is canon in the meat timeline and they have some lovely existential discussions about dave's immortality and karkat's mortality
anyway thats all i got for now. i feel insane about these guys and i'm hoping the new writers for hs2 can maybe improve the story a bit AND THEY ALREADY KIND OF HAVE!!! they brought sollux back, they made jake less of a punching bag and more of a character, they have vriska shenanigans, and jane is less of an Evil Girlboss and actually more of a homestuck villain if that makes sense!! AND THE ART STYLE IS BETTER TOO the hs2 style kind of devolved a bit and looked a bit terrible after a while (they might have just had new artists on at the time) but now they've got different artists!! and the guy heading it now worked on some of the original homestuck stuff!! so they're trying to slowly fix some of hussie's bad writing choices and expanding on the cool stuff that was already there!! i love hs2 it is my deeply flawed very fucked up baby :3 sorry this was so long. the demons got me u understand <3
I UNDERSTAND I UNDERSTAND. OMG THANK YOU. i actually did start reading candy/meat when they first came out (<< 17 yr old who was so so so excited for new homestuck content) and ended up. giving up on them REALLY quick. i actually got to the part where dirk died in candy and that was what made me put them down entirely bc i was SO upset . also like u said yes the way jade was characterized was so so so uncomfy for me. so those r like the two main factors that made me totally give up on meat and candy. and i kind of openly was super super mad about the epilogues for a while after that and then i realized. oh no. im a fool. im exactly the kind of person they were written to make angry HHFDBSJS. so i backed down and learned to appreciate them for what they were from a distance <3
i appreciate u SO MUCH for the deep dive bc holy shit. every once in a while i have the internal struggle of "god i miss homestuck. maybe i should go back and read the epilogues" and then i Dont hFBFSJDK . i actually do not know SHIT about hs2 in general !! i know there is. ult dirk who looks like an anime villain and i think thats great for him. aaaaand. the davekat laundry room scene which i have only seen panels for and not dialogue and i love them so much forever. and thats about the extent of my knowledge.
#IM GLAD U ENJOY THEM BC I ALSO LIKE TO KNOW EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME. i am avsorbing your knowledge#i think i would like to go back and read meat and candy again some day and give them another chance#((mainly so i can then read hs2 bc thats what i care about))#but i think i need to be in the correct headspace to do that and it has never really felt like the right time i guess#unfortunately the first time i consumed them i was a super super hyper depressed lonely college freshman#and they kind of scarred me a little hBFHDJSKS#I APPRECIATE THEM NOW THOUGH.#THANKNU THANK U THANK U i love whiskey inbox time#friends!!!#asks#anachronistic-falsehood
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I hate Yoongi because of his personality but watching his concert and then watching JK's little solo performance in the middle really made me question again why JK is supposed to be the breakout soloist. I mean Yoongi is really good (🤢) and JK's performance was so blah. JK was a top notch performer in BTS though so I have to assume it's the song or maybe his stage presence that's the problem.
Anyway, Park Jimin tour when 😭😭😭
I know there a 0 to 0.1% chance he'll come anywhere near me but I'd still eat that up watching it online. My fear is he enlists before any of that happens or the label doesn't give him that option 😭
Was jungkook's performance really that bad?
I just came back from work so I haven't watched it yet so idk.
Also yoongi is good, talentwise. It's his personality that's shit.
Anyways..... I was so hopeful that maybe jimin will come to the concert and perform. That we'll finally see him after ages. But guess not. 😔
It's actually making me feel so sad. Like I'm really missing him. When is he gonna come live? Like please. One jimin live will save us all. It feels like torture to just keep waiting and then get nothing.
And it's even worse when all I see when I come online is either jk or yoongi. And soon we'll see tae too as his album is next. Like please stop I don't wanna see any of them. They get on my nerves.
Yoongi with his obnoxious personality.
Jungkook with this shitty, arrogant remarks for his fraud song and him getting everything when he's so undeserving of it.
And then tae with all his drama. He hasn't done anything yet. But from his previous records IMO he plays a lot of mind games with fans, loves to rile his shippers and armies up which eventually ends up with jimin getting hate. And then obviously him doing everything to stay in the spotlight.
Like I don't like any three of them anymore and I just don't wanna see them. I might have to be a bit away from social media if it keeps getting worse.
When are we gonna see jimin for ffs?!
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i agree with what you said about jiara and jj this season of OBX.
spoilers below!!
honestly the whole vibe was off to me this season. something just wasn’t right about it. The pogues being separated for the majority of the season was one of the problems. i feel like their was rarely a scene where they ALL worked together. And some of the chemistry was off too, i hope it wasn’t real life drama that bled into the show to cause this.
John B’s dad was a whole other issue. john b was off with his dad a lot. Also john b keeping secrets from the pogues was so not him. Also the whole Topper storyline was a bit icky to me and a bit unnecessary. I really don’t feel like that was in Sarah’s character to do that. they either had no idea what to do with Topper or because of the maddie and chase breakup, they needed a storyline where the two could be separated for a bit.
To me, OBX is all about friendship you know? “our mission this summer is to have a good time all the time.” The pogues working together and their banter is honestly what makes the show as great as it is. I felt like that element was missing this season.
Idk maybe i need to rewatch it but i wasn’t left fixating (#adhdprobs) on it like i normally do when new seasons of my comfort shows come out.
I feel like the writers pay more attention to what they think fans want to see (Jiara) than they do to telling an actual good story. Like I’m all for fan service when it’s done right (Psych is a brilliant example of this) but I just feel like Jiara has been so forced I can feel it. Like i cringe whenever they’re in a scene together cause, like you said, the vibe is way off.
I don’t wanna speculate about their real lives but I can’t imagine that Madelyn and Chase aren’t able to be professional with each other. I will say, compared to everyone else on this show, Madelyn is definitely the most talented of the lot. (Followed closely by Drew Starkey and Jonathan Daviss) I used to think Rudy was really but the last two seasons I feel like they’re giving him shitty scripts to work with and just reducing his character to nothing. There have been a couple times this season where JJ has kind of brought back that feeling I had about him in s1 but I feel like it’s always overshadowed by Kiara and her feelings. All of his scenes are for her benefit and I really feel like he’s lost the equal footing I felt like he had in s1.
I agree that I don’t like this Big John/John B side quest…I didn’t need Big John to come back for me to know that he was a crappy father and if anything he’s just proven to be the biggest villain out there.
I genuinely enjoyed Topper in the heist scenes with them, I thought he was really funny but I do definitely agree that they kind of shoved him in there because they didn’t know what to do with his character but didn’t want to write him out. (I honestly felt that way about Barry too…)
And yeah, totally agree with your point about the show being based on friendship. I loved s1, it was a comfort show for me in 2020, I watched it like five times. It truly got me through some really rough shit that year. But this season just feels so far removed from that. I felt like each character was important and had a solid story for the most part (I’ll still argue that Kiara and Sarah could have been written better from the beginning) but this season and last season to an extent just feel like they don’t know quite what to do with their storyline.
I have a whole note on my phone of like, internal (external if you live with me lol) commentary I’ve had watching the show.
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Friday, April 5th, 2024!
10:04am: I just unadded him from snapchat and I know that's just a baby step and probably could get reversed any day now. It helps not seeing the chat thread right there every time I open it up. He's just doing too much and everyone was right ig, once he loses her he's gonna realize he lost both of us because I don't see him the same way. Or he found his dream girl and needs to stop being a dick about me irdc. He didn't appreciate me and it's clear he doesn't appreciate her!! If he did he wouldn't be jeopardizing his relationship with her. They're both stupid and I'm tired of dealing with it. They both have miserable lives and obviously need to fill it with ridiculous relationship drama because they are unhappy with their lives and themselves. No sane person would do this dumbass shit.
11:31am: Also figured out that archiving the FB messages is basically the same as deleting in my brain 😂 feels guud to not see it every time I wanna text my mom n stuff ❤️ The hehe haha funniest part of this shit is I don't think he's even gonna notice for a while. I just can't deal anymore with a half-assed friendship, gaslighting toxic, treats women like shit total dumbass. Keeping in mind what F said, do I want my son to act like this? Absolutely the fuck not. Couldn't imagine raising a child WITH a not-grown man child 😭 WTH y'all will never catch me doing that shit.
6:52pm: idk why I still feel so burnt out oh wait probably bc.... I'm burnt out! Anyway I still think it's a good idea to start a X number of days since I've heard from him, today would be #2. I want to say, oh this time I think he's definitely gone! But Jesus fucking Christ we've been through so much and he still bothers me so I have no fucking Idea anymore.
12:16am: lmao I re-added him and told him off some more, like I've said previously, what do I have to lose? A guy who mentally incapable of being monogamous and does nothing to fix himself 🤷♀️ whatever he's fucking lucky I don't send his gf screenshots of his dick. 💀 Idrc but it's nice knowing I could. She's too much of a whore to care though so yeah they're really a perfect pair. Lol all this because I got frustrated from busy work today 😂 if I didn't have to do all that dumb shit today would've went really differently. But that's what's friends are for right the good and the bad so fuck him, he sucks as a friend and doesn't deserve me. He sucks so bad he doesn't even know about these messages bc he hasn't readded me yet 🙄 it's so hard to feel bad for him, he has done all of this to himself. Idc anymore. Jeez it's gonna take me so long to fall asleep wish me luck!
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JEN UVE ACTUALLY DONE SOO GOOD WITH THIS THANKUUU FOR UR HARD WORRKKKK OTL
right off the bat the amount of judgement you captured in his expression is alrdy sending me XD.
tho,,,,,,,,,, tbf,,,,, thats a really pretty lookin block of charcoal,,,,, look at them textures,,,, yummy,,,, PFPEFTE DONT LOOK AT ME
I LOVEE the flow of the second page, and the goals being crossed off at the top is a real clever way at helping 2 convey that movie montage energy!!!
THIS MAN IS SO SQUISHABLE. also bro this literally looks like i screenshotted this from a manga what. top tier reaction image right here. Tage is not being paid enough to deal with his shit LMAO
BROOO THIS IS SO CLEVER WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE PANEL SEPERATION!!! I love how you curved the panel like that!!!! The sense of flow goes HARD. Just the creeping of flames from aces hand up his arm into the skies looks so so gnarly, and then to have all that momentum killed off at the end with the splash of water peofsidtt. THAT SPLASH PANEL LOOKS RLLY GOOD BY THE WAY ITS ALSO ONE OF MY FAVE PANELS. what a soppy wet cat. BEAST.
ahhh jen this is truly a thing i think you communicated really well in this comic. Sabo's trauma was handled really proficiently, it's not like RIGHT IN UR FACE OBVIOUS, but the way some little things tick him off- even when they're right next to the ocean and everything is okay,,, it feels so grounded to reality. Like the subtle shift in demeanor is esp done well over here!!!
THIS IS ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVOURITE SABOS FROM THE COMIC!!! HE LOOKS SO GOOD HERE U DONT EVEN KNOW., THE CROSSHATCHING ON HIS GLOVES AND AROUND HIS EYES AND ESP THE BG??? SUCH SCRUMPTIOUS STUFF.
IM ALSO just a really big fan of how you framed the circle of tension getting smaller behind him??? like the way its all jagged in rows makes it looks like hes trying to suck all the stress back into himself instead of leaking it out. IDK VRY CLEVER IMAGERY
im obsessed with this eye shots i feel like they do sooo much and they look soooo goood IM OBSESSED
jen the girls r arguing i cant keep watching. im scared IM SCARED MOM PICK ME UP T O T!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHFASEGHSDHUGSDGUSDFGs. I THINK U DID SUUUCH A GOOD JOB WRITING THEIR SCUFFLE THAT IT ACTUALLY PAINS ME TO READ CAUSE I CAN JUST FEEL HOW TIRED AND EXHAUSTED THEY ARE AND HOW SCARED SABO HAS BEEN AND HOW ALL OF THAT FEAR AND WORRY IS MAKING THEM TURN AGAINST EACH OTHER AND IT KILLS ME IM DEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAADDDDDD
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i really just need to reiterate that I LOVE how you have controlled the pacing of tension thruout this comic. I think this page brilliantly sets up the climax in the NEXT page (my fave). oeughehg it never feels good to have someone yell at you. The way the flames raise up into suffocating blackness,,,, GODDD THE MIC DROP ON THE NEXT PAGE IS SRSLY SO GOOD
no words. just. you captured sabo's fears so well. (also the fire just looks so stunning on ace srsly, the mixings of greyish and black to the bright white looks AMAZING)
AHAH AHAHHFAHFHAFHHAHAH
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AHAHHFAHSFHASFHUASHUYFHUAHHAHAHAH
jen open the door i just wanna talk just OPEN THE DOOR
he actually looks so shaken here, like, im never gonna be okay again,,,,,,,,,,,,,, my heart hurts,,,, AND THEN THE WAY HE BACKS UP IN THE PANEL BELOW??? LIKE?????????????? OMGGG THATS UR BROTHHERRRR DONT GO AWAY T O T!!! BUT HES SOOO SCARED!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
i am being so fr when i say im never forgiving you. this was. INSANE. TETSAETGSDGSDGSDFGsDGgdsg. UAWFASDUGUIDSFGSAETUSDG. STOPPP I CANT BELIEVE U REUSED THE PANELS LIKE THAT. UR KILLINMG ME. THE EMPTINESS OF THE LEFT PANEL CAUSE SABO HAS ALRDY RUN AWYA. THIS IS LIKE SOOOO CLEVER JEN UR BRAIN IS HUMMMOUUUNGOUS HOLY MOLY. I CANT GET OVER THIS IM ENDING IT ALL AWRUHFASETGHUSDFGHUAHRFSYUGAWUHRFDSAHUG
not to completely look away from all the drama that just happened but i rlly like how u drew the leaves n curtain :DDD ur hatching works sooo well with this kinda background work!!! rlly nice stuff :DDD
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And that is!! 18 of 18 pages!! It's this long because I didn't want to break up their fight. I hope you enjoy :)
I had to rewrite their fight like,,, 3 times lmao. I'm not very good at writing fights because I'm Incredibly Passive Aggressive and Very Non Confrontational. Thankfully my partner helped me out a bit with making the escalation feel natural, so hopefully their grievances and motivations read well. In the end, both of them are starving probably-emotionally-stunted teenage boys in a high-stress situation, and Tage is being faced constantly with one of the biggest sources of his trauma that he doesn't even remember-- of course he's going to lash out.
Fun thing I learned this time around, if I struggle with planning a chapter, it can kind of help to write it out in prose like I would a fanfic, and then translate it to comic form. This is how I eventually ended up with 18 pages of comic,,, because I can't really estimate how much I'll need to draw when I'm writing in prose. In turn, this did help a lot with adding more natural behaviors between dialogue, like Tage tapping his finger to fidget while crossing his arm, or all of their pointing and gesturing while they're arguing.
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Hi!!! I just want to sing your praises real quick for Sundered (i just read ch4)! You have done such an amazing job writing this I really cannot—like all the characters, THE EMOTIONs; I’ve been sucked into this world from the very first chapter, which is a testament to you writing for sure. You are so super talented and Jesus Christ the angst and ups and downs? MY HEART.
Also I just want to say that whatever happens in this series, whatever the endgame is for the main characters, I know you are gonna kill it and it will be amazing. With that said I also wanna say that maybe I’m crazy but I’m still really rooting for y/n to end up with Saturu… I know he’s got years worth of shit he’s gotta make up for, but I feel like they are both grown up now and him not being under his moms spell is a game changer. Idk I just feel like the love is there and if they can find a way to be healthy with each other, it would be best for their family. BUT whatever you write I know you kill it!
Also also wanna say I love the part about questioning if being with someone for the wrong reasons to keep them happy without really loving them, is that going to help or hurt more. Very tricky. And I’m pumped to see the meet up next episode. I’m gonna guess it’s gonna backfire on the gals that scheme tho—also I feel very little sympathy for Naomi—I feel like she totally preyed upon Saturu and used his rocky relationship to her benefit in order to get what she wanted. Like big time manipulation. Anyways THANKS FOR YOUR STORY
Hiiii thanks so much, this is so sweet 🥺💕 and yepp, being able to get away from the what people (in this case, his mom) keeps telling him really helped satoru understand what he really wants. like when his realizations about his feelings for yn started to accumulate more quickly bc of seeing her w toji, satoru just exploded and was able to break from those shackles and voices that keeps telling him that he's happy with naomi when in reality he just made himself believe that :(( anw i really appreciate this, im happy that u enjoyed it even if there's so much drama 😭 i hope you're having a great day/night ~!!
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Hi hi! So the lost tombs and chronology all super confuse me. So tlt2 ended on a cliffhanger that was not resolved by tlt3 which is ultimate note, but now there is another tlt3 that I am guessing is made by the same studio as tlt2 (but not UN) that actually follows tlt2? And it has the same WPZ as tlt2 (but sadly different WX, ZQL though I’m sure these guys are great). You seem to know what you’re talking about so I’m hoping you can help!
UN also ended on a cliff hanger so I’m wondering if they’ll get a sequel from their studio that comes before tomb of the sea.
ahhh hello anon! yes ahaha the dmbj dramas are certainly very confusing--because they keep switching the screenwriters/entire production team between dramas. huanrui did tlt1 (2015), tlt2 (2019), and the sequel to tlt2 (2021). they're also technically the production company for un (2020), but linghe did like all the directing/casting/writing so its significantly different in tone and quality from the other dramas huanrui produced. npss (dmbj author) did sha hai (2018) and tltr (2020), with sha hai being in collab with linghe, so you can see lots of parallels with un and shared cast. (gonna add that i dont know much about the m9 because that’s not what im personally interested in, so i’m only going by stories with wu xie & the iron triangle.)
unfortunately, the dramas pretty have no continuity as a result of all the weird shit and multiple studios doing different dramas and messy stuff going on behind the scenes. the author's production company currently has all the rights back for filming future dramas, which is......imo, a good thing for book fans who love the author but a 😬 thing for book fans who like the original story more than what the author is now doing with it. I'll uh avoid saying too much opinion stuff though so no more on that 😅
that aside! yes 云顶天宫 “explore with the note” part 2......is the direct sequel to tlt2 and done by the same studio. unfortunately the writers are different and im not sure how much of the production team is the same either. idk how much you know about the novels so brief summary here--for the chinese version, the main story has 9 parts split among 8 books (though the official eng tls have each part being a different book) with some important content being as follows:
official eng title “cavern of blood zombies” (first time wx goes into a tomb, first t3j meeting)
official eng title “angry sea, hidden sands” (xisha seabed tomb, introduce a-ning)
official eng title “bronze tree of death” (bronze tree in qinling, wx & lao yang solo adventure)
official eng title “palace of doom” (heavenly palace on the clouds, introduce bronze gate)
official eng title “deadly desert winds” (golmud, introduce hei xiazi, desert, rainforest, tamutuo)
official eng title “graveyard of a queen” (the rest of that arc, wu sanxing & xie lianhuan reveal, jade meteorite, amnesiac xiaoge and escape, sanshu vanishes for good--also i think the official eng tl covers a couple chapters of the beginning of the next part too)
阴山古楼 (searching for xiaoge’s memories in banai, miluotuo cave, i think introduction of wu erbai)
邛笼石影 (auction/hotel iron triangle fight, introduce xiao hua & xiuxiu, wx & xh on the mountains alone while pz & xg go with granny huo)
finale (rescue from zhang family mansion, changbai mountain goodbye, 10 years promise)
after the main story are the main sequels:
zang hai hua (tibetan sea flower; unfinished & abandoned) covers wu xie a few years after xiaoge has entered the gate, searching to understand xiaoge’s past
sha hai (tomb of the sea; unfinished & abandoned) covers wu xie’s plan to wipe out the wang family, after zhh
chongqi (reunion: the sound of the providence) covers wu xie’s lung disease and how he recovers from that, set after they pick up xiaoge again from the bronze gate. thunder city and everything.
灯海寻尸&万山极夜 (still updating on wechat) don’t worry about this one since it’s still a WIP lol
btw between sha hai and chongqi there’s also ten years later (a short story) that covers how wu xie and pangzi pick up xiaoge from the bronze gate and take him home
the dramas Do Not Connect To Each Other At All, which the exception of tlt2 & tlt2 pt2 somewhat, but they go in this order:
盗墓笔记 / the lost tomb 1 (2015): covers part 1 but with major OCs and filler, and includes the auction scene from part 8 for some reason, so introduces xiao hua early.
怒海潜沙&秦岭神树 / the lost tomb 2 (2019) technically “explore with the note”: covers parts 2 & 3 but with major OCs and filler, introduces xiao hua & xiuxiu (and hei xiazi briefly) early. last couple episodes also cover the beginning of part 4. not a direct sequel to tlt1 despite being done by the same studio.
云顶天宫 / heavenly palace on the clouds (2021) technically also “explore with the note”: covers part 4 with major OCs and filler (and the same changes carrying over from tlt2). some episodes are identical to the last couple episodes of tlt2. works as a direct sequel only if you ignore the last couple episodes of tlt2 that take place in the snowy mountains. (those episodes of tlt2 were filmed after this drama was filmed, and im still not sure why they dragged the wu xie and xiaoge from tlt2 back to changbai mountain to film those episodes.)
终极笔记 / ultimate note (2020): covers parts 5-8 with minor OCs and minimal filler, also introduces xiao hua & xiuxiu early. the only adaptation that resembles its source material most of the time.
沙海 / tomb of the sea (2018): covers the second sequel with major OCs and filler. includes some bits from zhh and the short story “three days of silence”.
重启之极海听雷 / the lost tomb reboot (2020): covers third sequel with major OCs and filler.
in addition there is the prequel series mystic nine (2016) and side movies for the dramas that the author produced. there is also a single standalone movie--time raiders (2016) that is....well it’s. very strange. it’s fully subbed on youtube if you’re interested?
the best way to watch the dramas is to assume each one is its own self-contained AU set along different points of the dmbj timeline because even the dramas the author himself worked on don’t have continuity LOL (and with the exception of ultimate note & sha hai most of the time, also assume most characters are pretty OOC from the novels).
i uh regret to inform you though, that ultimate note will not be getting a sequel unless the author magically decides to not care about making money anymore and sells the rights to film the finale to linghe or something ^^;;;; it’s....unfortunate bc un is the most highly-rated dmbj adaptation on douban by A Lot, but it’s an adaptation that the author had literally nothing to do with whatsoever.
more information on some of the side movies/stage plays/manhua/donghua here.
summaries of the main novel stories (currently through zhh) here.
edited mtl (some of which has apparently been looked over by native cn speakers) of the novels following where official eng tls end here. (there are many scattered extras as well.)
you can get the official eng tl books/ebooks on amazon or elsewhere(?), but if you have problems purchasing them or like you just dont wanna support amazon or something, dm me off anon. (also i dont want to be mean but frankly the official tls are kinda bad too ^^;;;)
a rough timeline (spoilers galore) for the dmbj novels here. (fair warning im not 100% sure how accurate all of this is--they put three days of silence as 1991 but looking at the info in zhh, it seems like it should have been before the 1950s...but it’s more than fine as a general overview.)
anyway i hope that was helpful in some way? dmbj is a Very Confusing thing to get into ahahaha, one of my twitter mutuals has made a few carrds if you think they might be helpful: book, dramas (slightly out of date bc it says heavenly palace hasn’t aired yet), ultimate note (got its own carrd by virtue of being the only adaptation aside from sha hai sometimes that most og book fans acknowledge lol ^^;;;)
also anon if anything wasn’t clear or if you had more questions feel free to ask again sorry ahahaha im kinda tired rn @.@
#dmbj#shouting into the void#ask#anon#....im kinda tired bc i just finished watching ydtg so i hope that doesnt come across *too much* in this post LOL#and its probably obvious which adaptation im biased towards but after reading the novels i cant really help it
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i just thought of this so sorry if it’s poorly explained but here goes
when dean was getting fucked up by the hellhounds and/or when sam was cradling his dead body and kissing him or whatever, some of dean’s blood got in his mouth. he doesn’t think much of it, too busy numbly burying dean and trying to figure out what to do next.
the night after he buries dean, we still see what we saw at the end of s3, but when dean screams for sam, we see sam wake up from a nightmare. he now has a psychic link to dean and sees a lot of what happens to him in hell, which obviously makes him even more crazy about getting dean out.
now. in 1.14 sam moves a cabinet with his mind because he knew dean was in danger and it made his powers stronger, like a reflex. so imagine applying that logic to sam’s abilities when he knows that dean is in hell. he goes full force awakens like ava and starts gaining the abilities of the other special children, but they only work consistently when it relates to getting dean out.
there are a bunch of demons (like ruby) that worship him and still think of him as the boy king and all that. so he manipulate/manwhores his way into gaining some very loyal demon subjects. they help him find a way to get dean out, and they have their crazy reunion in hell where dean thinks he’s hallucinating because they’ve been torturing him by using sam’s image. once sam shows that it’s really him dean’s like “wtf are you doing here” and sam’s like “you called me” and dean’s like ?!??!
once he gets dean out, the show would spend WAY more time on the aftermath of hell and also not made sam such an asshole in s4 for the plot. so they have some actually productive convos and they both respect each other and trust each other the most. now sam already knows a lot of what dean went through, so he respects him even more, and dean doesn’t feel pressure to share things. and dean trusts sam’s powers because he got him out and because he only ever uses them to help people. also dean knows enough about demons now that he knows not all of them are the same type of bad, and if they wanna kill alastair, that’s cool with him.
dean is upset and feeling guilty that sam had to go to hell for him, and he’s like “you shouldn’t have done that, sammy.” And sam just shrugs like “hey, you pulled me out of the fire twice. i still owe you one.” and dean’s like Oh.
also part of the vision is that dean is Fucked up now. the spell or whatever they did to get him out healed the really major stuff but there’s no angel healing so he’s covered in scars and it’s fucking badass. sam also got a little scarred on the trip. they both have hell flashbacks because sam saw a lot of it and they’re really clingy cause they don’t want to lose each other again. sam gets really overprotective and dean is like dude chill but he also finds it cute
as for actual plot, they’re on the run from alastair who wants dean back because he shouldn’t have escaped. but demons don’t just come right at them because a) they heard about the boy king and know he can fuck their shit up and b) most demons are scared of dean now too because he was alastair’s prodigy. so it’s more like they’re getting stalked at times, and cops keep getting possessed and trying to frame/arrest them.
basically instead of angel vs demon it’s two factions of demons: the ones on sam’s side and the ones on lilith/ alastair’s side. and sam is like we should just kill them they deserve it! but over time they realize that being obsessed with revenge is not a good way to live and that’s what got dad killed so they act smart about it instead.
idk i think the more the show started having ever present looming season-long villains, the less fun it got. gimme more roadkill and the usual suspects and shit. i don’t Need the world to be ending i just need samdean drama
Hey guyssssss ummm if you have a moment can you please tell me your ideas on what spn would’ve looked like with no angels and how sam would’ve saved dean from hell im going insane
the longer the better but obvs if you just have one idea laid out i’m gonna eat it up i just need ANYTHING
can be wincest or gen there’s licherally no criteria i just wanna know because i need to devour more of them
#also js making sam lose his powers made absolutely no sense#why would he rely on a different demons blood. it’s not like he was getting a constant supply from azazel#hc#fics#au#mars.txt#boyking!sam#wincest#my writing
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